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		<title>By: ThatGuy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400619</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not at all, as I do not believe in the eternal soul.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all, as I do not believe in the eternal soul.</p>
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		<title>By: DefendOurConstitution</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400611</link>
		<dc:creator>DefendOurConstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yup I have heard of his ties to to whole US Conf. of Bishops fiasco about denying Kerry communion.  To me he just looks way too cozy with Bush and Cheney.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup I have heard of his ties to to whole US Conf. of Bishops fiasco about denying Kerry communion.  To me he just looks way too cozy with Bush and Cheney.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400599</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Personally, I’m convinced that he intervened on behalf of the Republicans in the last election, because of abortion, and all reports are that he was behind the decision of the Vatican to declare social justice, war and the death penalty as lesser issues than abortion, so I’m not really a great supporter, as I mentioned.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He did blow off Bush. Whether he would have done that if Bush had still been ascendant, I couldn’t say, but he did do it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I’m convinced that he intervened on behalf of the Republicans in the last election, because of abortion, and all reports are that he was behind the decision of the Vatican to declare social justice, war and the death penalty as lesser issues than abortion, so I’m not really a great supporter, as I mentioned.</p>
<p>He did blow off Bush. Whether he would have done that if Bush had still been ascendant, I couldn’t say, but he did do it.</p>
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		<title>By: DefendOurConstitution</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400593</link>
		<dc:creator>DefendOurConstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Julia,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1732277,00.html?cnn=yes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Time Magazine’s take &lt;/a&gt;on speech at UN:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Pope’s Quiet Case for the UN &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Various hints and rumors suggested that Benedict’s talk would feature (depending on who was hinting) strong statements on (a) the Iraq war, (b) the role of religion in combating terrorism, (c) immigration, (d) the environment or (e) all of the above. Yet when Benedict arrived by car at East 42nd Street after his flight from Washington and a helicopter ride from Kennedy Airport to Manhattan, he had very little to say about any of those hot-button topics. Instead, he presented a carefully composed case — rendered somewhat exotic by the fact that he delivered the first part of it in French and the second in English — for the importance of the U.N. and what he considers the unsung religious basis of its goals.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So maybe he tried to bring it up, but wasn’t exactly outspoken or anything like it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia,</p>
<p>Here’s <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1732277,00.html?cnn=yes" rel="nofollow">Time Magazine’s take </a>on speech at UN:</p>
<p><strong>The Pope’s Quiet Case for the UN </strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Various hints and rumors suggested that Benedict’s talk would feature (depending on who was hinting) strong statements on (a) the Iraq war, (b) the role of religion in combating terrorism, (c) immigration, (d) the environment or (e) all of the above. Yet when Benedict arrived by car at East 42nd Street after his flight from Washington and a helicopter ride from Kennedy Airport to Manhattan, he had very little to say about any of those hot-button topics. Instead, he presented a carefully composed case — rendered somewhat exotic by the fact that he delivered the first part of it in French and the second in English — for the importance of the U.N. and what he considers the unsung religious basis of its goals.</p>
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<p>So maybe he tried to bring it up, but wasn’t exactly outspoken or anything like it.</p>
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		<title>By: DefendOurConstitution</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400573</link>
		<dc:creator>DefendOurConstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Julia,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like that quotes of opposition are Annan’s, not Pope’s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A WSJ article from 4/14/2008 starts with folowing quote: “The truth is the Holy See and the U.S. government are now on the same page on Iraq,” said George Weigel, a Catholic writer, theologian and biographer of the late Pope John Paul II. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not sure about who refused a private meeting with Bush (after all, Benedict XVI had a nice long meeting with Bush).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia,</p>
<p>I like that quotes of opposition are Annan’s, not Pope’s.</p>
<p>A WSJ article from 4/14/2008 starts with folowing quote: “The truth is the Holy See and the U.S. government are now on the same page on Iraq,” said George Weigel, a Catholic writer, theologian and biographer of the late Pope John Paul II. </p>
<p>I am not sure about who refused a private meeting with Bush (after all, Benedict XVI had a nice long meeting with Bush).</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400525</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, no, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/18/wpope418.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;not really&lt;/a&gt; (and I should say at this point that I’m not a great fan of his, but fair is fair)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a carefully-worded speech at the United Nations, Benedict underlined the need for diplomacy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Multilateral consensus continues to be in crisis because it is still subordinated to the decisions of a few, whereas the world’s problems call for interventions in the form of collective action,” he said, adding that international rules must be “binding”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Although he did not mention the war in Iraq directly, his speech reminded the audience of the decision by the US and the United Kingdom to bypass the UN before going to war in Iraq in 2003.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kofi Annan, the former secretary general of the UN, branded the war “illegal” because the US failed to get a resolution from the UN and no multi-lateral authorisation was given by the UN Security Council.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“There have been painful lessons for the US, the UN and other member states. I think in the end everybody’s concluded it’s best to work together with our allies and through the UN,” Mr Annan noted.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Archbishop Celestino Migliore, the Vatican representative at the UN, said Benedict wanted to attack “the false notion that might makes right”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Several UN members have complained about the excessive power of large countries such as the United States in the UN Security Council.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Vatican strongly opposed the war in Iraq, and Benedict said any intervention in another country “should never be interpreted as an unwarranted imposition or a limitation of sovereignty.”&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;He called instead for “a deeper search for ways of managing conflicts by exploring every possible diplomatic avenue, and giving attention and encouragement to even the faintest sign of dialogue or desire for reconciliation.” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It hasn’t been a great focus of the US press, go figure. He did refuse a private meeting with Bush.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no, <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/18/wpope418.xml" rel="nofollow">not really</a> (and I should say at this point that I’m not a great fan of his, but fair is fair)</p>
<blockquote><p>In a carefully-worded speech at the United Nations, Benedict underlined the need for diplomacy.</p>
<p>“Multilateral consensus continues to be in crisis because it is still subordinated to the decisions of a few, whereas the world’s problems call for interventions in the form of collective action,” he said, adding that international rules must be “binding”.</p>
<p>Although he did not mention the war in Iraq directly, his speech reminded the audience of the decision by the US and the United Kingdom to bypass the UN before going to war in Iraq in 2003.</p>
<p>Kofi Annan, the former secretary general of the UN, branded the war “illegal” because the US failed to get a resolution from the UN and no multi-lateral authorisation was given by the UN Security Council.</p>
<p>“There have been painful lessons for the US, the UN and other member states. I think in the end everybody’s concluded it’s best to work together with our allies and through the UN,” Mr Annan noted.</p>
<p>Archbishop Celestino Migliore, the Vatican representative at the UN, said Benedict wanted to attack “the false notion that might makes right”.</p>
<p>Several UN members have complained about the excessive power of large countries such as the United States in the UN Security Council.</p>
<p>The Vatican strongly opposed the war in Iraq, and Benedict said any intervention in another country “should never be interpreted as an unwarranted imposition or a limitation of sovereignty.”<br />
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<p>He called instead for “a deeper search for ways of managing conflicts by exploring every possible diplomatic avenue, and giving attention and encouragement to even the faintest sign of dialogue or desire for reconciliation.” </p>
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<p>It hasn’t been a great focus of the US press, go figure. He did refuse a private meeting with Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: DefendOurConstitution</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400517</link>
		<dc:creator>DefendOurConstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yet mum’s the word on this trip even in front of UN?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet mum’s the word on this trip even in front of UN?</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400510</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, he hasn’t been nearly as vocal as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2005/04/06/excuse-me/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his predecessor&lt;/a&gt; (who was reputed to think Bush was the antichrist), but he’s spoken against the war a fair amount.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, he hasn’t been nearly as vocal as <a href="http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2005/04/06/excuse-me/" rel="nofollow">his predecessor</a> (who was reputed to think Bush was the antichrist), but he’s spoken against the war a fair amount.</p>
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		<title>By: DefendOurConstitution</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400492</link>
		<dc:creator>DefendOurConstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Talk about rude: Did I miss it, or did this Pope not say a word on Iraq?  The biggest injustice going on in the World right now.  He talked about peace and respect and dignity, but not a word about the atrocities going on in Iraq.  Outrageous does not begin to express. He addressed the UN and not a word either! Talk about being complicit in the destruction of a Country and the killing of tens of thousands (perhaps hundreds of thousans) of people.  Not hard to see why the Muslim World is so skeptical on this Pope after his previous comments and after his silence on Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about rude: Did I miss it, or did this Pope not say a word on Iraq?  The biggest injustice going on in the World right now.  He talked about peace and respect and dignity, but not a word about the atrocities going on in Iraq.  Outrageous does not begin to express. He addressed the UN and not a word either! Talk about being complicit in the destruction of a Country and the killing of tens of thousands (perhaps hundreds of thousans) of people.  Not hard to see why the Muslim World is so skeptical on this Pope after his previous comments and after his silence on Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/now-thats-just-rude/#comment-1400480</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Its also good to review the past and Rudy is soo past to try and determine the patterns that the future will take, and in Rudy’s case avoid them!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its also good to review the past and Rudy is soo past to try and determine the patterns that the future will take, and in Rudy’s case avoid them!</p>
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