Comments on: It’s All About American Values, Mandrake

By: jaango

jaango — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:09:02 +0000

Back in the early 1970s, I graduated from Glendale Community College (Metropolitan Phoenix area). And while there, I was the president of the Mecha chapter. To wit, we coalesced our overall effort with Vietnam War Vets and the local affiliate of the organized labor, CWA, and while working in tandem, expanded the Maricopa County Community College District. Today, our efforts created the establishment of the Rio Salado College, South Mountain Community College, the colleges in Gilbert, Avodale, and in the uber-rich Paradise Valley. In addition, we laid the groundwork for the Arizona State University-West Campus.

And why?

Access to decent education, can play the American role for the ‘great-equalizer’ given that the Republicans torpedoed the military draft. Sadly, in this regard, our fellow Democrats provided considerable aid and comfort to the Republicans in this demise of the ‘draft’.

Thus, a small version of history that will never make it into today’s history books. Such is life!

By: Blub

Blub — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:27:37 +0000

Yes, and no doubt the Christofascist extremists behind this piece of ‘legislation’ accept Pat Robertson’s contention that Islam is not a religion in the first place, but rather a “political system”… remember that one?… and since any set of religious beliefs with which this bunch disagrees will just be redefined as a terroristic “political system” and since subversive politics will be banned, any non-millenialist religion will simply be likewise outlawed from our schools.

By: Blub

Blub — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:03:39 +0000

Um.. is this bill even remotely constitutional? lawyers?

Oh, and another dumb question… according to the authors of this bit of totalitarian shame, is torture an American value? And will high school Amnesty International chapters therefore be considered subversive? Enquiring minds would like to know.

By: BobMunck

BobMunck — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:34:15 +0000

If the bill bans things that violate American Values, and free speech is an American Value, doesn’t the bill ban itself?

By: boloboffin

boloboffin — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:09:28 +0000

This is why Rove is beginning to sound the orchestra to sing “Obama Is A Socialist.”

This is the Republican GOTV strategy this year - not gay marriage, but anti-socialism under the guise of anti-immigrant referendums. Tie in socialized medicine and “cling to their religion” and you’ve got a perfect storm in November.

Healthcare is exactly why they’ve gone for anti-socialism anyway - it was Hillary’s strong suit, right? That’s the Rove strategy - twist the strong spot into a weakness. With all the controversies manufactured around Obama now, they can tie him into socialism (or outright Marxism - they’re already doing that) and bewail putting all those danged illegals onto the taxpayer healthcare dime.

Here it comes.

By: azsucks

azsucks — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:57:47 +0000

This law doesn’t surprise me Arizona is full of Neanderthals, gun toting, meth smoking, right wing and corrupts politicians and 1970’s retro dopes. They can’t keep any of the arts funded because people are too busy buying Tuscan furniture from Robb and Suckey, and getting plastic surgery made of melted automobile parts. Honestly, this is a miserable place with Sheriff Arapaio, Symington, Rick Renzi, John Shadegg, JD Hayworth (out thank heaven). These people have lived and worked in an environment of corruption. They get payoffs from developers to buy land without water rights (or they are in cahoots with companies that pay off cities like Eloy to allow these land banking and developers to decide how these areas are going to be developed). If you want to live an unconscious life and swim, golf, hang out in bars, fawn over expensive cars, and go to the lingerie bowl – this place is for you. It’s all yours!

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:21:45 +0000

‘American Values’ (has this term become one of those oxy-moroons?)

Bu$h Co, the msm, and the hangers-on of each would roll a drunk for a quarter.

Most of them would be happy to beggar the nation for a cool million, but not all of them.

Some would expect a billion for their efforts.

Now state politicians, especially them what’s ‘right’ with gospel, would be willing to do it for the quarter, a little publicity and whatever is left in the bottle.

Okay, Ann in AZ, I was going to ask you to ’splain all this but you’re probably pretty disgusted already.

On the other foot, the rest of us shouldn’t be jealous, ‘cuz anyday now … we could be facing the same problem.

In fact, we are …

‘Bout time to make it clear that ‘enough’ is too much, put religion in its proper place, take back the country, help the Iraqi people and behave like civilized beings.

I’m feelin’ optimistic, disgusted (what’s new?), but optimistic.

May reason and justice prevail!

If it doesn’t, maybe it’s time to kick … ?

By: wobblybits

wobblybits — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:20:59 +0000

I meant to write that their actual issue is with people who are not anglo-americans

By: Ann in AZ

Ann in AZ — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:14:29 +0000

Here is the link to the people’s will meaning nothing….

Did you see where Barney Frank has proposed legislation to make marijuana legal?

By: wobblybits

wobblybits — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:13:47 +0000

My argument is that their premise is false to begin with so their issue is not with latinos, it’s with people who are not anglo-americans