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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/all-out-war-for-anybody-but-condi/#comment-1400762</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;siun at 198-” Dmac … mfi explained a bit above at #37. With the Guides team doing a lot of work and just trying to survive, having to also translate is often too much and we are not their main audience.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find the tags helpful - and combine reading those with s”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;oh, i completely understand the ’why’ of it, all of the ramifications of waht they do, they are beyond nervy and very brave and so dedicated, when i see one in english i jump on it, just wanted to say that it is torturous to read the tags, see something imminent causing more strife and can’t read it, and if given the translated articles i would be putting them to good use…….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks for the other links, (as you know) i will use them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>siun at 198-” Dmac … mfi explained a bit above at #37. With the Guides team doing a lot of work and just trying to survive, having to also translate is often too much and we are not their main audience.  </p>
<p>I find the tags helpful &#8211; and combine reading those with s”</p>
<p>oh, i completely understand the ’why’ of it, all of the ramifications of waht they do, they are beyond nervy and very brave and so dedicated, when i see one in english i jump on it, just wanted to say that it is torturous to read the tags, see something imminent causing more strife and can’t read it, and if given the translated articles i would be putting them to good use…….</p>
<p>thanks for the other links, (as you know) i will use them.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/all-out-war-for-anybody-but-condi/#comment-1400745</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;angie-i did many paintings from the tempest and about prospero&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;one is called prospero’s island. is a watercolor, abstract, with lines around all of the water marks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;like an aerial topographical photograph of an island. with side things from the play.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i had his last ’speech’ (can’t remember the proper name of it)  on my refrigerator for about 15 years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angie-i did many paintings from the tempest and about prospero</p>
<p>one is called prospero’s island. is a watercolor, abstract, with lines around all of the water marks.</p>
<p>like an aerial topographical photograph of an island. with side things from the play.</p>
<p>i had his last ’speech’ (can’t remember the proper name of it)  on my refrigerator for about 15 years.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Siun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;what good lessons … a blessing for you. Thanks for sharing that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and I too am now off … work comes early tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks to all for good conversation&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what good lessons … a blessing for you. Thanks for sharing that.</p>
<p>and I too am now off … work comes early tomorrow.</p>
<p>thanks to all for good conversation</p>
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		<title>By: Siun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/all-out-war-for-anybody-but-condi/#comment-1400723</link>
		<dc:creator>Siun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dmac … mfi explained a bit above at #37. With the Guides team doing a lot of work and just trying to survive, having to also translate is often too much and we are not their main audience.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find the tags helpful - and combine reading those with scanning &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aswataliraq.info/look/english/index.tpl&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aswat Aliraq&lt;/a&gt; and M&lt;a href=&quot;http://arablinks.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;issing Links&lt;/a&gt; daily. Also reports from UNHCR and Reliefnet are helpful.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dmac … mfi explained a bit above at #37. With the Guides team doing a lot of work and just trying to survive, having to also translate is often too much and we are not their main audience.  </p>
<p>I find the tags helpful &#8211; and combine reading those with scanning <a href="http://www.aswataliraq.info/look/english/index.tpl" rel="nofollow">Aswat Aliraq</a> and M<a href="http://arablinks.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">issing Links</a> daily. Also reports from UNHCR and Reliefnet are helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/all-out-war-for-anybody-but-condi/#comment-1400721</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;siun at 195-”Dmac - we share a wish to some day read Mohammed’s writings … perhaps we should both be studying Arabic!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sounds crazy, but i have always wanted to…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when i was young, my uncle, who worked for the guggenheim institute, was a historian on the side, took out a book, don’t remember which one, to explain something to me……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it was written in arabic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i remember saying, it’s so beautiful. the script, to write like that every day. what a feeling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he explained how it was written right to left. i thought, how great if you are left-handed, he explained how insightful a thought that was. a high compliment from a man who was entrenched in such depths his entire life. truly a genius, the kind of weird kind, hermit kindof, but loves humanity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he then got a book out written in hebrew.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;same thing to me, right to left.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;later, i learned they were enemies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;never understood that. they write the same way, not the same as us, they ought to be the same i thought.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;funny, huh?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when seals and crofts summer breeze album came out i played it on his stereo, there was a song, east of ginger trees that had references i didn’t understand, so, knowing he was a walking encyclopedia, he explainedit to me, that it was a religious reference. he taught me many things about tolerance and that people just live their lives the way that they are taught and where their minds take them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;fine man.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>siun at 195-”Dmac &#8211; we share a wish to some day read Mohammed’s writings … perhaps we should both be studying Arabic!”</p>
<p>sounds crazy, but i have always wanted to…..</p>
<p>when i was young, my uncle, who worked for the guggenheim institute, was a historian on the side, took out a book, don’t remember which one, to explain something to me……</p>
<p>it was written in arabic.</p>
<p>i remember saying, it’s so beautiful. the script, to write like that every day. what a feeling.</p>
<p>he explained how it was written right to left. i thought, how great if you are left-handed, he explained how insightful a thought that was. a high compliment from a man who was entrenched in such depths his entire life. truly a genius, the kind of weird kind, hermit kindof, but loves humanity.</p>
<p>he then got a book out written in hebrew.</p>
<p>same thing to me, right to left.</p>
<p>later, i learned they were enemies.</p>
<p>never understood that. they write the same way, not the same as us, they ought to be the same i thought.</p>
<p>funny, huh?</p>
<p>when seals and crofts summer breeze album came out i played it on his stereo, there was a song, east of ginger trees that had references i didn’t understand, so, knowing he was a walking encyclopedia, he explainedit to me, that it was a religious reference. he taught me many things about tolerance and that people just live their lives the way that they are taught and where their minds take them.</p>
<p>fine man.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/all-out-war-for-anybody-but-condi/#comment-1400701</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;mark at 188-”ncidentally look at the tags at the end of the postings - they give an idea of what the psoting is about. They’re like the index to a book - they give you some idea of whats going on.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;welllllllll, mark,,,,,,, that is EXACTLY why i would like the english after…..”they give an idea” an idea? i want to read it, the whole thing, the whole bloody mess, please……i see things that i would REALLY like to know what the hell is going on, and the tags say SOMETHING HAPPENED, yet, i can’t know what they are, english teaser tags, i have equated them to hype shows, many times i have googled to find out, and you know and i know, not a thing available anywhere else, so, i get to worry and wonder about no water, what happened without really knowing, cuz I CAN’T READ IT. check back and there’s never any reference back to the post i couldn’t read, so the event happened, yet i don;t know what it is…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i am a letter writer, of the prolific kind, i’m not a sounder=offer, i write with quotes and information. and gg’s stuff could help me define things. one more source that i can use to make a concise point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so, learn arabic at age 49? by the time i do, hopefully it will be over and english and arabic will be as common as popcorn is  here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mark at 188-”ncidentally look at the tags at the end of the postings &#8211; they give an idea of what the psoting is about. They’re like the index to a book &#8211; they give you some idea of whats going on.”</p>
<p>welllllllll, mark,,,,,,, that is EXACTLY why i would like the english after…..”they give an idea” an idea? i want to read it, the whole thing, the whole bloody mess, please……i see things that i would REALLY like to know what the hell is going on, and the tags say SOMETHING HAPPENED, yet, i can’t know what they are, english teaser tags, i have equated them to hype shows, many times i have googled to find out, and you know and i know, not a thing available anywhere else, so, i get to worry and wonder about no water, what happened without really knowing, cuz I CAN’T READ IT. check back and there’s never any reference back to the post i couldn’t read, so the event happened, yet i don;t know what it is…..</p>
<p>i am a letter writer, of the prolific kind, i’m not a sounder=offer, i write with quotes and information. and gg’s stuff could help me define things. one more source that i can use to make a concise point.</p>
<p>so, learn arabic at age 49? by the time i do, hopefully it will be over and english and arabic will be as common as popcorn is  here.</p>
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		<title>By: Siun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/all-out-war-for-anybody-but-condi/#comment-1400684</link>
		<dc:creator>Siun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dmac - we share a wish to some day read Mohammed’s writings … perhaps we should both be studying Arabic!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and Angie - thank you for the Cesaire! wow&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dmac &#8211; we share a wish to some day read Mohammed’s writings … perhaps we should both be studying Arabic!</p>
<p>and Angie &#8211; thank you for the Cesaire! wow</p>
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		<title>By: markfromireland</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/all-out-war-for-anybody-but-condi/#comment-1400683</link>
		<dc:creator>markfromireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Time for me to get some sleep before my grandchildren wake up and start complaining about the shocking service you get from &lt;strike&gt;grandparents/parents&lt;/strike&gt; slaves these days.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! = SLAVES!!!! You are 15 Seconds &lt;em&gt;late &lt;/em&gt;with the MILK this is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s a good reason why we’re designed to have kids when we’re young……..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;*poof*&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for me to get some sleep before my grandchildren wake up and start complaining about the shocking service you get from <strike>grandparents/parents</strike> slaves these days.</p>
<p>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! = SLAVES!!!! You are 15 Seconds <em>late </em>with the MILK this is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>There’s a good reason why we’re designed to have kids when we’re young……..</p>
<p><strong>*poof*</strong></p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/20/all-out-war-for-anybody-but-condi/#comment-1400682</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just wow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wow.</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When it comes to poetry and the expression of what it feels to be minimized as a human and a victim of colonialism, I quote the very recently departed Aime Cesaire:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Prospero, you are the master of illusion.&lt;br /&gt;
Lying is your trademark.&lt;br /&gt;
And you have lied so much to me&lt;br /&gt;
(lied about the world, lied about me)&lt;br /&gt;
that you have ended by imposing on me&lt;br /&gt;
an image of myself.&lt;br /&gt;
underdeveloped, you brand me, inferior,&lt;br /&gt;
Thatís the way you have forced me to see myself&lt;br /&gt;
I detest that image!  What’s more, it’s a lie!&lt;br /&gt;
But now I know you, you old cancer,&lt;br /&gt;
and I know myself as well. (162)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“This final scene in The Tempest shows Cesaire’s attitude towards colonization.  The colonizer imposes on the colonized all kinds of lies.  The colonizer makes the colonized feel unworthy of living.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Cesaire.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Cesaire.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This occupation and spread of American empire must end.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to poetry and the expression of what it feels to be minimized as a human and a victim of colonialism, I quote the very recently departed Aime Cesaire:</p>
<blockquote><p>Prospero, you are the master of illusion.<br />
Lying is your trademark.<br />
And you have lied so much to me<br />
(lied about the world, lied about me)<br />
that you have ended by imposing on me<br />
an image of myself.<br />
underdeveloped, you brand me, inferior,<br />
Thatís the way you have forced me to see myself<br />
I detest that image!  What’s more, it’s a lie!<br />
But now I know you, you old cancer,<br />
and I know myself as well. (162)</p>
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<p>“This final scene in The Tempest shows Cesaire’s attitude towards colonization.  The colonizer imposes on the colonized all kinds of lies.  The colonizer makes the colonized feel unworthy of living.” </p>
<p><a href="http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Cesaire.html" rel="nofollow">http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Cesaire.html</a></p>
<p>This occupation and spread of American empire must end.</p>
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