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	<title>Comments on: Clueless Or Complicit?</title>
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		<title>By: xargaw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397844</link>
		<dc:creator>xargaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 05:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Or better yet, maybe they have switched channels.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or better yet, maybe they have switched channels.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397721</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that’s the thing with Algore and Bill Clinton in particular - they’re both scary smart, and seem to be very knowledgeable on every conceivable topic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whereas Dubya always sounds like he’s faking his way through a report on a book he didn’t read.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that’s the thing with Algore and Bill Clinton in particular &#8211; they’re both scary smart, and seem to be very knowledgeable on every conceivable topic.</p>
<p>Whereas Dubya always sounds like he’s faking his way through a report on a book he didn’t read.</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397714</link>
		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wish I could recall what John Stewart said along those lines during the 2004 election, but it was pretty similar. “I want a President who can say ‘I’ve been preparing all my life for this job, and I’m smarter than you’”, or something like that. Anyhow, yes, I’d sure like to think that the next President could do a better job of running things than I could, or even the dumbest person I know could.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could recall what John Stewart said along those lines during the 2004 election, but it was pretty similar. “I want a President who can say ‘I’ve been preparing all my life for this job, and I’m smarter than you’”, or something like that. Anyhow, yes, I’d sure like to think that the next President could do a better job of running things than I could, or even the dumbest person I know could.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397686</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My previous comment can be applied to pundits as well.  Which makes it largely hypothetical.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My previous comment can be applied to pundits as well.  Which makes it largely hypothetical.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397680</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t want a president I can hang out with; I want a president who is so incredibly smart that they intimidate the shit out of me.  I don’t want to ever entertain the thought that, “Y’know, I think *I* could do a better job than this dickhead.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t want a president I can hang out with; I want a president who is so incredibly smart that they intimidate the shit out of me.  I don’t want to ever entertain the thought that, “Y’know, I think *I* could do a better job than this dickhead.”</p>
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		<title>By: wesgpc</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397678</link>
		<dc:creator>wesgpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think more competently run debates will reduce the influence of the post debate comment shows full of ignorant loon millionaire.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If there are more substantive questions, and a more dignified and formal debate ground rules, then the audience will not rely so much on the corrupt flunkies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the corrupt functions of the current debate system is to provide promo feed for the assinine commentary afterwards by vicious celebrity know-nothings. The debates are designed to maximize corporate publicity and ad revenue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a real debate, with real substantive issues discussed, the ignorant commenters won’t have much to add. I think there will be couple of issues in every debate where voters will look at the media celebs and say ‘that goof doesn’t know anything, I know more than he does.’&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think more competently run debates will reduce the influence of the post debate comment shows full of ignorant loon millionaire.</p>
<p>If there are more substantive questions, and a more dignified and formal debate ground rules, then the audience will not rely so much on the corrupt flunkies.</p>
<p>One of the corrupt functions of the current debate system is to provide promo feed for the assinine commentary afterwards by vicious celebrity know-nothings. The debates are designed to maximize corporate publicity and ad revenue.</p>
<p>In a real debate, with real substantive issues discussed, the ignorant commenters won’t have much to add. I think there will be couple of issues in every debate where voters will look at the media celebs and say ‘that goof doesn’t know anything, I know more than he does.’</p>
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		<title>By: wobblybits</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397668</link>
		<dc:creator>wobblybits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i’m humbled, she and i are the same age&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i’m humbled, she and i are the same age</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397665</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That consequence is an intended outcome of a well-run debate.  There are supposed to be winners and losers.  The idea that we can’t tell which is which outside of a media-sponsored, candidate lobbyist-infested “spin room” is the height of absurdity.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That consequence is an intended outcome of a well-run debate.  There are supposed to be winners and losers.  The idea that we can’t tell which is which outside of a media-sponsored, candidate lobbyist-infested “spin room” is the height of absurdity.</p>
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		<title>By: wesgpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>wesgpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, those are good ideas, and it might be feasible to create some alternative plaftorms before November that way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, I still want an organized effort to publicly strip the corporate media of the power to dominate the production of national debates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A big public noise, with a documented indictment of the corporate media performance will publicly disgrace and humiliate them, or, if not, will help discredi them with the public. They simply cannot respond effectively to a competently done critique of their grotesquely bad record.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And we need an alternative platform for debate. That would produce a better system. It would also be a permanent stain on the coporate media’s record.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They need to be very seriously damaged. Their public reputation must be mangled and maimed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, those are good ideas, and it might be feasible to create some alternative plaftorms before November that way.</p>
<p>However, I still want an organized effort to publicly strip the corporate media of the power to dominate the production of national debates.</p>
<p>A big public noise, with a documented indictment of the corporate media performance will publicly disgrace and humiliate them, or, if not, will help discredi them with the public. They simply cannot respond effectively to a competently done critique of their grotesquely bad record.</p>
<p>And we need an alternative platform for debate. That would produce a better system. It would also be a permanent stain on the coporate media’s record.</p>
<p>They need to be very seriously damaged. Their public reputation must be mangled and maimed.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/18/clueless-or-complicit/#comment-1397661</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps I’m elitist, but I think being able to do well in public debate, to be able to prepare, to digest reams of data quickly, to have the wit and self-possession and the speaking ability to do it, is essential in a senior politician.  Lying politician may be redundant, but we &lt;em&gt;can &lt;/em&gt;do without the fuzzy thinkers among them.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps that’s an overreaction to Bush, who can do none of those things.  He can barely put a noun in front of the right verb, which is an indication of how little he thinks and how much he intuits based on limited data.  That such limitations can be disastrous is painfully clear.  Among other things, it leads Mr. Bush to lie about things great and small, especially about that micro-earpiece, like an early Babel fish, that allows him to be at least semi-literate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I’m elitist, but I think being able to do well in public debate, to be able to prepare, to digest reams of data quickly, to have the wit and self-possession and the speaking ability to do it, is essential in a senior politician.  Lying politician may be redundant, but we <em>can </em>do without the fuzzy thinkers among them.  </p>
<p>Perhaps that’s an overreaction to Bush, who can do none of those things.  He can barely put a noun in front of the right verb, which is an indication of how little he thinks and how much he intuits based on limited data.  That such limitations can be disastrous is painfully clear.  Among other things, it leads Mr. Bush to lie about things great and small, especially about that micro-earpiece, like an early Babel fish, that allows him to be at least semi-literate.</p>
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