When the NBA Board of Governors meets tomorrow to vote — as we know they will — to move the Sonics out of Seattle and on to Oklahoma City, I’d like to suggest they take another vote alongside it: Drop the names of the cities where your teams currently reside from the teams’ names. Adopt the system used by the Japanese: Just name them after the corporations that own them.
That way you could have teams like the Target Timberwolves and the Vulcan TrailBlazers and the Cablevision Knicks and, now, the Chesapeake Rustlers.
At least then it would be more honest. Fans then would know they are in fact rooting for the company that owns the team, not for their communities.
As it is, the NBA looks more and more like a bunch of slick-talking grifters who come to the little burgs and offer to sell them a fine bronze statue of the town’s founder but instead sell them a cheap thing made out of pot metal with the face melted off.
And that way, when owners want to pack up and leave, they can just go ahead and do so, no hard feelings. That’s what this vote is all about, after all: David Stern wants the owners to be able to move at will, especially if the local community isn’t all hot and bothered to ante up hundreds of millions of dollars to upgrade their facilities only so that they can keep up with insane NBA salaries. And so the owners, being owners, of course will gladly approve this move.
The communities? Screw them. What have they done for us lately?
Now I’ll admit that I was one of those poor saps who fell for the NBA’s little grift for many years. Back when I was a kid growing up in the rural Northwest and you had to choose between California teams and the rest of the country for teams to root for — regardless of sport — the arrival of the Sonics in 1967 was a real godsend. Even in remote Idaho, they were the hometown team. I followed them in boxscores each day and was ecstatic when Bill Russell finally coached them into the playoffs in ‘74-75; delirious when they nearly won the title in ‘78, and out of my mind when they won it outright in ‘79.
Since then, I’ve rooted for them every year, through thick and thin — mostly a lot of thin. After I moved to Seattle in ‘89, I attended as many games as I could and covered a number of them for the newspapers where I worked. I was a season ticket holder from 1995 through 2006 and attended more games than I can count.
I’m a basketball nut – tried hard to play it when I was young, and gym ratted a lot in my 20s, but I was never any good, and a knee injury in my early 30s ended my playing career, such as it was. But I love watching the game. In my mind, basketball players are the world’s finest athletes; and I loved watching the NBA because it was home to the world’s finest basketball players.
But most of all, I loved to root for the Sonics because they represented my community, and I mean the larger community of the Northwest. They were my hometown team and rooting for them was all about standing up and taking pride in the place you lived. Sports are kind of silly entertainments, but they’re also more; much of the larger cultural value of sports, especially as a kind of secular religion that everyone could coalesce around, lay in the way they were real repositories of the hopes and aspirations of their community.
Now over the years, especially as the season tickets mounted, there was a lot not to like. The gross commercialization at NBA games is just overwhelming, and you have to learn to shut out the constant bombardment if you’re there to enjoy the game.
And the officiating: a travesty. It became increasingly clear over the years that NBA officials were corrupt, but not in the usual way; they called games badly at times that were convenient most of all for the NBA, when it wanted certain marketable matchups in the playoffs. They were also corrupt in that they clearly made calls based on grudges they held, and their egos became the most dominating force on the court. The "superstar call" is a staple of modern NBA games. So when confirmation of the usual kind of corruption as well arrived in the person of Tim Donaghy — well, no one was exactly surprised.
But the officials were just symptomatic of the larger problem of the NBA game generally: team play — which is really where the beauty of the game emerges — has for years been sublimated to talent. Michael Jordan in effect ruined the NBA, so that now all that fans root for is that somehow their team can draft or somehow nab the league’s next great talent. Defense is an afterthought in the NBA, and the pick-and-roll is about as team-oriented as you get on offense. The college game — though its players are inferior — is far superior from the standpoint of the game itself.
Meanwhile, the salaries for that talent have gone through the roof, so that perfectly good basketball stadiums like Seattle’s Key Arena no longer can be profitable in today’s NBA, because revenue demands are so high that all NBA facilities require high-revenue-stream offerings.
This has all occurred on the watch of David Stern, whose every move has been about promoting the league’s superstar mentality and sublimating not just the teams but the communities themselves. NBA teams are no longer community assets — they’re marketing platforms for athletic superstars.
Now, there have been a number of team moves previously, but the history of those moves — from the Lakers’ departure from Minneapolis to the Grizzlies from Vancouver — has always involved teams that had only been in their communities for a relatively short length of time, had always had trouble drawing fans; the majority have taken place in the era of mass expansion.
The Sonics, in contrast, have been in Seattle for over 40 years. They’ve never had trouble drawing fans, even in down years. The only problem we’ve had has been with idiot owners making boneheads moves, like the time they fired George Karl because he chafed some front-office types. Or selling the team to con artists from Oklahoma.
But that matters not to the poobahs of the NBA. What matters is making the wealthy team owners wealthier and wealthier, along with their players. All that money has to come from somewhere, and if some of the suckers get tired of being played, well, there are always new ones to be found.
So of course Stern not only has no compunction about moving the Sonics to Oklahoma, he’s been content to bash Seattle and warn us that we’ll never get another team here for years and years.
Nevermind, of course, that the new Sonics’ owners not only lied outrageously to the community when they bought the team. Well, it’s true that Clay Bennett put on an elaborate show to convince folks he had done his best to convince the politicians to finance a new stadium. Thing was, he wanted to move the stadium far south to Renton — where hardly anyone in Seattle would travel to see a Sonics game — near the worst traffic intersection in the state. And the bill was a mere $500 million, out of which Bennett and Friends were only, haltingly, willing to commit $100 million. The taxpayers were to pay the rest. It’s no wonder it died in the legislature.
But all that time, in turns out, Bennett was assuring his co-owners that "the game" had only begun, and that they could count on having the Sonics in Oklahoma City eventually — sooner if not later. Bennett was also lying through his teeth to Stern, who he was assuring all along that he was working in good faith to try to keep the team in Seattle.
And it probably tells us everything we need to know about the NBA that it didn’t bother Stern one iota. What’s a little lying among fellow thieves, after all?
So really, fellas, when you vote today to swap your presence in the nation’s 14th-largest media market for one in the 49th — we know, you just can’t help but shoot yourselves in the foot when there’s money to be made from it — go right on ahead. Because even longtime NBA fans in Seattle have been given a front-row view of your scam, and we’d probably just as soon be shut of it.
Sure, I know that in a few years NBA execs will start hinting that something can be done about getting a team back here. It’s too big a media market for them not to be in. But that will probably mean ripping the heart out of some other community, and frankly, having been there, most of us want nothing to do with that. Overexpansion has already made the NBA a joke, so please don’t bother us with the idea of putting an expansion team here.
No, I figure if you move, you’ll be gone for good. And ya know what? Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.
Now, in the meantime, we will get our little revenge. When you lose your lawsuit to enable the Sonics to breach their contract with the City of Seattle two years early, as you almost certainly will, you’ll be stuck keeping the Sonics here through two more years. And as you may have already figured out, Seattleites are not so generally stupid as to give their money to people who intend to abscond with their team. The seats will be empty (Kevin Durant notwithstanding), and Clay Bennett and his pals will suffer.
I’m sure there’ll be offers to pay us off to escape those final two years. I say no way. Make them suffer. And not just out of spite, but because we really would have nothing to gain from taking their money.
After all, why would Seattle want to have anything to do with the NBA in the future? Why would we take yet another team in, just to have them turn around in seven years and begin demanding tax packages to underwrite their newest state-of-the-art money-sucking devices? Eh?
I’m sure the folks in Oklahoma City will get to see that side of the NBA soon enough. Indeed, they just voted to pass a tax to pay for an improvement of their local stadium. Good on’ em. Enjoy it while you can.
In the meantime, I suspect that there will be other cities who wake up to your grift, fellas. Because there’s a whole city up here willing to tell everyone all about it. There will be other threats, and other removals for the insufficiently obsequious.
So just spare us the histrionics and change the way you name your teams. Name them after the companies you fellow represent. Or maybe you can even name them after yourselves. After all, hey, the NBA is where the egos come to play. Just quit conning people into thinking that these teams represent their communities. Because we know now that that’s just a scam.
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David!
Clay Bennett sucks!
David!
Hi David.
Oklahoma City?
Sure seems like a boneheaded move to me..Adios.
Isn’t that supposed to be “Clay Bennett sucks, sir!”?
The Seattle PI’s Dave Horsey weighed in on Bennett last Sunday:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/…..sp?id=1745
wow, you get RGB to say sir to you? dayam you’re good!
Not me — the boss who wrote this piece.
rasshole
I dunno..I think we’re all being cyber-terrorized. Or, virtual-terrorized.
Fuck ‘em. Turn the crappola off. Turn it off.
It is a major mind-fork.
F-them.
And let the virtual door hit them in the *ss.
gotta go finish frying food that had parents for mr. and visiting froend. bbl
Oh, but Dave, you obviously misunderstand the use of the name of the city in the team name. It’s not used because that’s where the team resides. It’s because the owner of the team also claims ownership of the city as well.
But the owners of the NBA pale in comparison to Al Davis.
friend
is basketball the game played on ice or is it that water game with a basket… although i thought that one started with a p for some reason
feh. I was at the uninspiring Wariors game last night where they lost to the Sonics. The only meaningless game they played all year.
I got a proposal for ya: how about fixing the league imbalance so that a team with 48 wins doesn’t get jobbed out of the playoffs, only to watch sub-par eastern teams make it?
Snerk.
I guess it depends then, which penitentiary should the Jail Blazers be sponsored by?
Full disclosure;
I could give a rats ass about basketball, I have been in the box seats for Blazer games and I do understand where David is coming from.
I’m thinking maybe you and I have about the same level of interest in sports. Though I do (being Canadian and all) know the names of the ones played on ice.
…but I’m not bitter.
Didn’t street hockey come from up your way once upon a time?
Forgive me Father, I was born in Oakland.
In 1960, same as the Raiders.
Bob Costas once said that the greatest team name in history, in any sport, was the NBA’s New Orleans Jazz. It captured both the spirit of the city and the essence of the game. Going on, Costas said the absolute worst team name in history, in any sport, is what they came up with when that team moved to Salt Lake City: the Utah Jazz.
Suzanne, if there’s a game with a team named the “Utah Jazz,” it is clear that your question is not unreasonable.
Just keep clinging to your Warrior Religion.
you shoulda seen the sniper fire trying to get from BART to the Colisseum Arena.
hmm, sharks are still in it.
sharks in basketball? dayam, i gotta start paying attention when the sports guy comes on after the weather dood.
Oklahoma City tried their best to finagle the Hornets away from NOLA. Started out as a gesture of goodwill after the storm, “come here, play your games till your home arena is fixed!” Turned into a PR disaster for the Hornets owner and OKC.
So NOLA still has an NBA and an NFL team, but probably not for long. The state is unable to pay the next installment of extortion that was agreed to, because of decreased revenue and an inabilty to sell the naming rights to the Dome or the Arena.
Personally, I thing an owner shouldn’t be able to take the name with them when they move the team. Especially a name linked to a city, like Sonics, or Jazz. Utah being such a hot-bed of jazz.
All of this is why I love the Green Bay Packers. A team owned by the city, playing football outside in freaking Wisconsin and there’s a 40 year waiting list for tickets.
maybe, but CA is more Hockney than hockey
Amen, David.
When municipalities provide funding for sports arenas for privately-owned professional teams, it’s not a particularly good use of public funds; nevertheless one can understand why they do it. But not to get back an equity position is the most blatant form of corporate crony welfare.
It’s occurred to me fairly recently that my lifelong hoops immersion isn’t entirely healthy. (’I know, it’s only rock ‘n roll, …’)
That’s the theory.
Teams move. Chicago Cardinals to St Louis and then AZ. SF Giants, LA Dodgers, Ravens and etc.. Oakland A’s and those crummy Raiders. Memphis Grizzlies.
Let them move.
Chicago’s Mayor R. Daley Jr. told Bears ownership, after they threatened to leave town for Memphis if Chicago didn’t upgrade Solder’s Field.
“Go ahead and move the team to Memphis. We’re the nation’s second largest sports market. We’ll get another franchise.”
Let the owners move franchises to follow demographics and the quick buck. They have a product and we can spend our dollars and attention elsewhere.
Our local hockey team is the Ice Bats.
Well there was considerable bitterness in my city when we lost our hockey team to some unworthy place where they don’t even have winter.
is this what ya’ll are talking about?
Is Oklahoma City a larger market than Seattle?
I think they’re just trying to avoid being Dallas Mavs fans.
After the MN Vikings lost their fourth Super Bowl game, there was a move afoot to move them to the Phillipines, renaming them the Manila Folders.
hahahahaha
Very weird to see the Tampa Bay Lightning win the Stanley Cup in 2004, when it was 85 degrees outside.
Fun, though.
As for the Lakers, they were here for 13 years and we were heartbroken when they left. Now we have the Timberwolves. We’re still heartbroken, and it’s been 48 years since the departure of the Lakers.
That’s pretty much the reaction LA has to the NFL, especially after Al Davis and Georgia whatshername. We aren’t going to fund a stadium if all the revenue (or nearly all) goes to the owner and the league (especially when they want parking revenue on days without games. Besides, no team means also no TV blackouts ….
oops. Messed up the close on the first italics.
i’ll fix it for ya :)
hard refresh will show the fix
I like the Celtics, but, that’s the only NBA games I watch…
Pups, I remember George Mikan, Jim Pollard, Vern Mikkelson, Whitey Skoog, Elgin Baylor — you thought the day the music died had to do with Buddy Holly, didn’t you?! Once it got to be all about money . . . well, you know.
Howdy, Suz! How’s the cabin in the Redwoods doing? ;-)
And that’s another thing! Kevin Garnett is gone from here, too. I tell ya, some days, it just doesn’t pay to get up. (sigh) G’night.
tis a lovely spring evening at the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods with temps just now dipping down to 59. that blasted wind has quit blowing so i’m hoping i’ll stop sneezing soon.
Bird, Parrish, and Ainge, were awesome to see play, particularly when they played the Lakers…!
Aloha, Barbara!
Remember when they actually wore shorts that looked like, ya know, shorts?
These kids today look like they’re running around in Scarlet O’Hara’s pantalets.
Bless Ya, Suz! ;-)
g’nite barbara
Knickerbockers…? ;-)
i’m not whining. baby girl has pneumonia (diagnosed yesterday) so my itchy watery eyes, sneezing not just once or twice but 8 or 9 times in a row, and going through kleenez boxes in near record time is nothing at all in comparison. i spoke with her tonight just before signing on and she is feeling not as crappy as yesterday.
Suzanne, yellowdog Jim came over today to help me with the heavy work towards getting my house ready for Passover. Among other things, he moved the couch to vacuum under it, then took the sofa bed apart because of a month’s popcorn between the cushions. Anyway …. he helped me with minor repairs so that it will be ship shape by the time you arrive here in July.
I can’t believe no one has mentioned the Harlem Globetrotters yet. It’s the only bball game i’ve ever seen other than high school hoops.
I also recall when they were too short…! How’s the weather in the bayou?
am still iffy tex. house hasn’t sold and that was the only way i was gonna be able to swing it.
Night Barbara.
Madmom, Texteen won’t wear shorts unless they reach the knee. Cassie, on the other hand, only wanted shorts that only pretended to cover her butt.
it was a good thing yellowdogjim did, tex.
Pneumonia is serious bizness… I hope she’s getting some good medical attention…
Saw them play once and I have never laughed so hard.
They can really play and are comedians as well.
she is, ct. we’ve already had the now you are gonna get that pneumonia shot every 5 years talk.
Ya mean like this?
you betcha. good man!
the love of the game really showed. i used to love watching them on tv when wide wide world of sports featured them.
I have to keep a close eye on my middle’un she tries to push the envelope on modest apparel…!
Oh dear, I hope she’ll feel better very quickly. That can make you feel like you’ve been hit by a truck.
Along with MJ…! Manny homered twice today to beat the Yanks today…! FTFY!!!
breaking news: Pentagon institute calls Iraq war ‘a major debacle’ with outcome ‘in doubt’
Cold enough for coats at the beginning of the week, back into the 80’s today. Little guy’s got the croup and my sinuses are in full revolt. Another lovely day in the eighth ring of hell :0)
just put that one in the news queue tex. thanks
kewl
i was running around earlier in the week in a sarong and tshirt. i’m digging out my sweats cause its gonna start getting cold again tomorrow.
McClatchey interviews woman who asked ‘flag pin’ question in debate.
Obama angers her because he is too “smoothe”.
-G
They don’t call it Lousyanna for nothing, altho, you’re only bordering it…!
It was a hit job, through and through… ABC has truly sunk to new lows…!
((madmommy))
Hug that little one for me, and I hope you feel better too.
just reinforces my decision to use parental controls on my cable box on all abc/disney stations. i’ve asked and that is the only way to ‘block’ on comcast and the nice lady at comcast did reassure me that those statistics are sent to the networks every month with what shows and channels are blocked with parental controls.
Strange weather this year. Don’t know how to dress. My daughter got a cold that went into pneumonia, too. Awful. Terrible allergy season – feel as if the face is going to explode.
i’ve got less allergy problems since i moved over to this side of the hill. not what i expected – i thought going from an urban area to living in a forest would increase – not decrease – my seasonal allergies.
Evenin’ all !
A Sports Blog on FDL ? Woo Hoo !
hey petro – how ya been dood? i want ya to know i did pass on those breathing instructions ya gave me. thanks
Sorry, everyone … the school play ran long …
hey david… was wondering what happened to ya. what play and how was your star’s performance?
Even tho you’re an ‘Empty-nester’….! Bwhahaha…!
PeterR –
The joke we used to tell in Idaho (aka “northern Utah”) was that the Jazz and the Saints ought to swap names.
((((( Suz & Baby Girl )))))
non- spoiler alert … do not miss one minute of Colbert, not even at the end …
We here in Sacramento have stared down the extortion a couple of times for a new Kings Arena…one that would be publicly funded, require forgiveness of debt on the old Arena, and happened to have an interesting little clause at the bottom allowing the Maloof Family to control the concessions (i.e. restaurants and shops) not only IN the arena, but within the new downtown redevelopment area (a 100 acre zone that the city was going to also pay for by taxes). Oh, and did I mention they wanted the money from all parking spots in that zone…both day and night!
The deal was voted down by something like 8:1, despite constant threats by the Maloofs that they might move the team to Vegas. Most people were saying good riddance. After that bunch of bull and idiotic coach changes and the destruction of many of the team fan favorites the brand has been seriously tarnished. This was a team that for 15 years sold out every game…win or lose, high team loyalty.
Of course, we stole the team from KC. So there you go.
I wonder how the college game will go as more and more freshmen and soiphomores jumpo to the NBA. I think that there may be an upper ceiling, but mant dynasties may have their lifespans shortened. And it’s bound to impcat team play…as coaching can only go so far with teams breaking apart.
using parental controls to block all abc and disney and espn channels must have the network wiz kids wondering …
Geez Dave, haven’t you heard of the New England Patriots or the Tennessee Titans?
Twain, as I mentioned in the piece: Seattle is No. 14 on the media-market list. OKC is No. 49.
Suz — She wasn’t in it, just had a bunch of older friends in it, including the sitter. Familial duty. Sitting thru a middle-school Shakespeare production. …
thanks dood (((petro)))
If sports is such a great business that the owners and (some) players become millionaires, they can pay for their own damn stadiums.
Oy! Almost as bad as 6th grade band performances I bet.
Now that is just strange to me but I certainly am no expert on the matter. Thanks for the answer.
I’m in overkill territory for my allergies at the moment. My two asthma meds that work for both the asthma and the allergies.(flovent,singulair) and OTC zyrtec just to make sure my lungs don’t freak out. Adding sudafed to the mix sure as hell wouldnt’ stop me sneezing, since what i’m using right now makes no difference.
I might look into some OTC eyedrops though. This is a new symptom from living in the area and it’s driving me BATTY. We had rain for 4 days straight and 40 degree temps and today we were flirting with 78F. No wonder i’m going ACHOOO in the pharmacy and every one and their brother is after the sudafed we have behind the counter. I thought it was bad last year? I have a feeling this year will be worse and we’ll have to stock up hugely for our allergy stuffs.
ouch. hopefully they went for a comedy and not one of his tragedies…
Only probably longer.
Apparently, OKC is desperate to have at least one professional team…! I couldn’t believe it when i first heard about the desire to move the Sonics…!
Will they be the OkieSonics?
*gasp* … you want the wealthy to use their own money to get rich ? Why that’s communism … /s
Better Sooner(s) than later …
Silly me!
After they tried so hard to snatch the Hornets out from under a wounded city? You were surprised?
it does sound better than the oooooooo-sonics
Actually, I was surprised that it was the Sonics, I’d have thought the Clippers or the Warriors would be more interested…! ;-)
but it does come with its easily adapted song
Dang, I completely forgot there were two other teams in California besides the Lakers and Kings.
Thanks, Suzanne. No splash, either.
My point exactly! 8-)
Need everyone’s help please. Passover coming and my house has to be free of all leavened bread or baked goods by tomorrow morning. Help empty the pantry!
my pleasure
screw basketball, bring on Rollerball
on my way.
The Nashville Predators, an NFL team, just jacked a $4 million out of Nashville taxpayers to keep them here as opposed to moving somewhere. Like Oklahoma City.
Twist my arm. Ouch! Ok, I’ll have a couple. ;)
They were appropriately named, weren’t they?
*droooooool*
thanks, what are the rest of you eating? *g*
I also have a cake or two left over. Geez! When will I start emptying things out earlier?
mfhamk moo (swallowing) thank you tex
The carrot cake looks delish…!
I’m gonna need more milk
Speaking of gossip.
Did Russia’s Putin divorce his wife in expectation of marrying a gymnast 30 years his junior?
-G
Well, Bennett and Co. have reminded all of us what the original meaning of Sooners was:
They were, in other words, land thieves.
Sorry. Milk is too expensive.
Just for the record, many of the posters misunderstanding the situation in Japan. Many older franschises carry only the company name and the team name, like the Hanshin Tigers (Hanshin is a railway company in the Osaka area and the Tigers are the team name). But newer teams, or relocated franschises, now are named like (City or Region name)(Company Name)(Team Name), e.g., the (Hokkaido)(Nippon Ham)(Fighters) or the (Tohoku)(Rakuten)(Golden Eagles). (I added the parens for ease of reading; they’re not normally used). In theses cases Hokkaido is the northernmost island of japan, and Tohoku is the the northernmost region of Honshu, consisting of several relatively sparsely prefectures (sort of like the Pacific northwest in a way). Nippon Ham is a meat-packing company, and Rakuten is a big internet company. Fighters and Golden Eagles are the respective team names.
The reason for this new naming style is that the japanese pro baseball authorities (the Japanese counterpart to MLB) want to foster more identification with the community. This is partly a reaction to the relative success of pro soccer in Japan, where the teams are named only for the community (e.g. Urawa Reds) rather than the main sponsor (Mitsubishi Motors).
They’re a hockey team I think, the Titans are the football team. Still, pure larceny.
following in the french prez’s footsteps… does that mean we should be expecting boosh to dump pickles any day now?
almond milk, then? I can make my own *g*
doesn’t count when land thieving from brown skinned people
Incidentally, one of the things I wanted to mention in the piece (which was too long anyway) was that if you’ve been paying attention, you know that the officiating has gotten completely out of hand this season in terms of the zebras letting their egos rule the court. They’ve been Ting guys up for smiling and clapping. All because of the new rules that give the officials complete power out there.
*spewing cookie crumbs*
where did she get that nickname from? The only time I have heard that name before was in the cartoon The Oblongs
I used to make my own milk. Back in the 90’s. Only had one customer though. And Mr (Ex) Tex used to complain about the mom-cicles taking up too much space in the freezer.
That was even after forcing all the Indians there like the Seminoles, Cherokee, Tuscaroo, et al… Who can forget the Trail of Tears…!
Well, she’s georgeous, and some men are just pigs, so there ya go. Hope his first wife gets a good lawyer and cleans his clock, but don’t know what the laws are in Russia. I’m guessing she’s not gonna get much.
swear.. that is what the stupid fork calls her
true, whatever happened to letting them just play? Yes, call the fouls but if they just so happened to bumb butts, just let them keep playing
The Osages were particularly victimized in that situation.
We’ve got thunder. May lose the internet. You’ll pardon me if I leave without saying good night?
Pickles was her secret service name.
Yeah, but if it’s Shaq or one of the other superstars, it doesn’t matter.
saying pain free sleep wishes early… just in case tex
momcicles teehee. the men folk get really weirded out by the ‘other’ milk, don’t they?
Thanks for clearing that up.
boa noite, tex
…um, I thought this was NOT supposed to be a sports blog?
What? Oh, the post is really about corporate greed screwing the public?
Well, alright, then!
*looking around guiltily*
*fell off of chair*
the stupid fork ((suz)) best.nickname.evah!!!
you don’t mind if I borrow, do you?
I hope the departing Ludmiyla Putin has the good sense to turn down any cups of tea.
-G
Shaq’s butt is particularly large though, that should count for something. Come to think of it, all of him is somewhat oversized and tends to block the lane just a tad.
That’s why I prefer college hoops, if I’m going to watch basketball
steal away :)
block? He just parks it there.
actually, neuro, the sports thing is really up to each individual front pager. some do not like sports talk on their threads, others do. really does depend on the thread and its content in many cases.
Heh, wouldn’t want any polonium to be added in for flavor, eh?
teddy is a no-sports guy.
a friend of mr wobbs is visiting (he is a skippy). I haven’t the foggiest what he is ssaying (maybe it’s the glasses of wine)
He is fun to watch but my fav was Jordan – watched a lot back then. None of the sports are much fun any more actually.
only after he declares himself prime minister and installs his puppet John McCain in the presidency
but not the only one
Do you watch the women’s college game? Some of those gals are very good at using their butts to competitive advantage. The men could take lessons.
It’s only a matter of time till the lane is widened to account for the increased size of today’s player. Shaq is what, 6′ 10″, 300 plus? He blocks the sun!
i like basetball quite a bit, just not too fond of the accompanying temper tantrums thrown by owners, coaches, players
Allergies, and more allergies here. Pollen count is going up, and this year I have discarded prescription nasal spray for netti potting. I’ve been doing it for 8 weeks and feel better than ever. Anyone?
Mine haven’t been too bad so far.
that should read basketball….not base*shudder*ball
yeah but some of those guys suffer from noassatall and would gain no advantage bumping hip bones
Heh, don’t be dissing Baseball, it is the nation’s past time…! ;-)
E Street Band Member Danny Federici Dies
from Huff Po
i’m not dissing our nation’s pass-its-time *g*
fork
chris gaffney died today too from liver cancer :(
Worst part? I’m allergic to the interior of my car… and any new car (that means only cars of working class people, not leather interiors).
kidding really. I can honestly say that i do not possess the appreciation for baseball that others might possess
Makes one wonder how they keep those extra-baggy shorts from falling off!
Noassatall is a sad and tragic affliction, the big kid suffers from it already. By the time he’s middle aged he’ll look like a frog standing upright. Little guy’s got a bubble butt, he should be ok for a while :)
Did y’all catch this story earlier today?
BREAKING: Taxi Fire Rages in Front of St. Patricks Cathedral in NYC
Pope Benedict is scheduled to be there tomorrow. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence.
tis the off-gassing from the vinyl and chemicals used in the manufacturing process
Madmom, Texteen was a skinny baby and toddler. Ill for a while and digestive issues. Anyway, SKINNY! Had to wear baby suspenders or overalls all the time until he was almost 3.
If people only knew that ‘New car smell” is solvents and plastics venting out of the interior.
I used to do new car inspections and test drives at a high end car dealership.
I added my own little ingredient to that new car smell.
Heh.
The only thing that kept the big kid’s pants up was his diaper or pull-up. Once he went into big boy drawers I had to get adjustable waist pants so they would be long enough but still not fall off the poor boy. He still needs them. The little guy can wear his brother’s pants if I roll the hems.
I kept telling Mr. CE that’s what it was — he thinks I’m nuts. Now, reports from China from new car owners say the same. Have to say, this netti potting works.
LOL!
Been.Right.There.
yeah mr wobbs suffers from it a bit (not flat or concave). I hear many have turn to implants but i would worry about slippage.
Now you guys! And it really did make me cough horribly.
hmmm *digging out tin foil*
Did we ever find out what started the fire in Darth Cheney’s offices a few weeks back?
-G
That new car smell…I used to love it, now it makes me feel like someone is stepping on my throat.
I am pretty sad about the whole deal on the Sonics. The Sonics belong in Seattle. The Suns had some massive battles with the Sonics back in the early 90s, and I went to one of the playoff games up there at Key. The fans were great and loved their team. I understand the public/private angst on stadium construction; we have had those battles here big time. The deal is to make only a portion of it public backed and get it paid back quickly. Some public involvement is fine though (contrary to what many think) because the tax revenues and benefits really do add up. Nobody here has said a word about the financing deal on the Cardinal’s stadium since the financial whirlwind of the SuperBowl spread it’s wealth around town. Same at the ballyard after the World Series in 2001. All of our venues have paid off ahead of schedule and handsomely despite their massive cost. Part of that was because of Jerry Colangelo though who was forceful enough to insure that both the city and the team prospered. It is too bad Seattle didn’t have such an owner when it needed it.
Gotta turn in. Keeping the little guy home tomorrow but still got to get teh big kid up and off to school, night all!
Thats because it’s poisonous!
Nothing like adding a good methane injection into that mix, along with some serious tire smoke.
Whistles as he walks away, giggling.
I’ve never heard of netti potting. What is it?
oh, methane…
I was thinking other.
sleep well madmom
Did that too.
Fuckers.
Forty five Grand will get ya more than ya thought!
Hey Margot!
It is a yoga nasal saline cleansing. It sounds gross. I do it in the morning, using 8oz. water and 1/4 t. kosher salt. I bought a ceramic pot at Whole Foods. I’ll send you the video if you like.
Sure. It’s not as gross as having sinus headaches, I bet.
“Heh, don’t be dissing Baseball, it is the nation’s past time…! ;-)”
Emphasis on PAST…oh those sweet memories when steroids were allowed!
Trademark it now!
The “Oklahoma City SoonerSonics”
BTW Anyone consider how the Major Professional Sports in the US have screwed things up so badly that the only thing keeping them in the public conciousness is the MSM? If it wasn’t for all those old conservative sports-writers that can’t figure out the offside rule…and realize that Soccer actually scores almost as many times as most US football games (except the scores aren’t multiplied by ‘7′ each time) then it would easily be one of the top three team sports by now.
It will be soon…the other sports are losing the young people…and more and more Latinos and others are coming in….and they aren’t from the Dominican Republic.
If baseball, in particular, wants to survive…they need to really start expanding in Central and South America. They need to get Chavez as interested in baseball as Castro was…ands tell Bush to back off and get Chavez to start sponsoring a major league team in Caracas.
My feeling is that if the Sonics want to leave, let them. I’m tired of being told by millionaire athletes and billionaire owners that what our community has done for them isn’t enough. Let them all leave. We can make better use out of that land by turning it into parking lots or museums.
Agree with you about the college game vs. the pros, Dave. It’s more entertaining. It used to be even moreso before they introduced the shot clock. Points really meant something back then.
I used to work about two miles south of Exit 167 on I-5. Known by it’s friends far and wide across Metro Seattle as the “Mercer Mess”. That’s the exit you take if you’re going to see a Sonics game at Key Arena.
I live about 20 miles north of that disaster immortalized in concrete and asphalt.
I have had to pass through more Key Arena traffic crushes than I like to remember. Although it could have been worse, I could have been headed southbound rather than northbound when this happened.
The northbound piece, when you enter the Gates of Hell as far north as University (mile marker 166), is like being shot properly: agonizing but mercifully short.
The southbound commute during a game crush is another matter entirely. Puts me in mind of the Lyubyanka Prison back in the old days, or Gitmo today. The crush starts at southbound Exit 167 and it works north for about 10 miles on bad nights. Commute times down the 16.5 miles of freeway, from Lynnwood down south to the Convention Center, run at 70 minutes or more, according to the WSDOT.
Safeco Field game crushes are just as bad. Worse, if your path takes you right past Safeco Field at the “witching hour” when a crowd is just leaving. Wait two minutes, drive half a car length. Wait another two minutes, drive another half car length. I’ve been there. Words fail me.
I don’t suppose the owners of the Seattle Mariners could be convinced to relocate their team to Oklahoma too?