Yes, I’m sure I’ve said that before, but this time it’s totally true, I mean it. The winner of this debate will surely be the winner of the Pennsylvania Democratic primary, which, as we all know, is THE MOST IMPORTANT PRIMARY EVAR OMG!!1!!1!
Things to watch for:
- Will Charlie Gibson ask Clinton and Obama for their thoughts on Dubya’s admission that he authorized torture? Will he simply ask them if they repudiate and denounce it, or will he ask if they will investigate and prosecute? There is no question I want answered more, and I suspect that a lot of Democratic voters feel the same way.
- How much time will Charlie Gibson spend drilling them about Bittergate? There’s no question of If, only of How Much.
- Will Charlie Gibson disgrace his profession as thoroughly as Russert and Williams did? Will he ask questions that aren’t based on right-wing talking points? Will he ask anything along the lines of, "Jeez, what a godawful mess you’ll be stuck with – how do you plan to fix it?"
- What will the tone be like? Will Clinton and Obama be cordial, friendly, hostile, physically violent? Will they take any shots at Bush and McCain, or only at each other?
Soon, all will be revealed. Predictions and, eventually, observations are welcome as always in the comments.
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Eli!
hi Eli XXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO
Live blog this debate in this thread?
CTut!
Hi sadly!
JoFish: Yes.
I have been informed that applause will not be allowed. Those ABC people are *tough*.
((( Eli )))
They’re also debating when to have the next debate … *g*
Im falling in love with Obama…yes its true,he is a sort of mocha Garry Cooper…..Mr.Deeds goes to town
Actually I don’t think they’ll spend too much time on “Bittergate”. That’s nothing but a big fat hanging curveball over the plate for Obama.
bom dia, Eli
OK get yer whiskey shots ready for every time you hear the word “bitter”!
Is anyone else getting a pregame show? Mine is by the local news, so I have no idea what you’re all seeing.
he is totally cool,smart REAL dooooooood
Me + laptop + ABC = reporting for duty, Sir!
The Sheik is gonna do well tonight.
Wheel of Fortune
Eli, what are you wearing for this debate?
Angry and bitter?
partisan and pitiful?
Happy and hopeful?
Do I sound bitter if I suggest every bitter point be balanced with the Bosnia invisible bullet defense?
The local ABC affiliate is totally into this. They even have a Debate Countdown clock in the upper right-hand corner.
a mocha gary cooper? *giggle*
OBAMA KEWL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..ablog.com/
NHL
brawlHockey … might be a precursor of tonight …That probably depends on Gibson.
So probably angry and bitter. And partisan.
how can you NOT love the guy?
They’re selling inauguration countdown clocks in Boston…
Well, I’m on tape delay, I’m gonna try to stream the audio, but, I’m watching THE GAME, BoSox/Yanks in NY…! ;-)
I would hope that charlie doesn’t make an ass of himself tonight, but the odds aren’t good.
Bitterthingy- yes, he will ask
Shrub admitting to torture– oh please, oh please, oh please
I’m wearing a striking combination of elitist trimmed with a Up with People vibe. Seventies are back, baby.
i want him on the plane to S.America right after the swearing in
Shuster is on Hardball saying Obama could lose ground against Mccain over campaign finance!! Excuse me, McCain is the one violating law.
I’ll wait until after the election. I don’t want a clock that counts down to More Of The Same.
I’m on tape dalay as well but will depend on the folks here to give a rough idea of what’s what.
Biden is on Tweety now trying to talk-down some of Tweety’s man-love for McSame.
close your ears!
ABC BROKE THE TORTURE STORY
!@!@#$%^&#$%^&#$%^&argh!!!!!!!
Ooo, our local affiliate is interviewing Candy Crowley! What a get!
I know. the strawberry fell out of my mouth on that one
surely jou jest?
Or a ”Frank” Sumatra (mandeling) ;-)
[reference to TBoggs earlier ”Frank” post.
That is probably our only hope for getting a question on it. Which will include something like “…as ABC first reported…”
Candy Crowley is saying that Hillary shouldn’t go negative. Or maybe she should.
Clinton will challenge Obama to a tequila shooter competition. She’ll down 3 shots in succession; he’ll drop her with a .357 Magnum.
“Oh,” he’ll say, “I misunderstood your meaning.”
Then he and Bill will get married and take over Al Qaida.
(That’s the prediction I got in a memo from David Addison).
Not at all, unfortunately.
today is Charlie Chaplins birthday …bravo
Will snipe fire make Hillary late? Will this leave a bitter taste in Obama’s mouth? Will Charlie Gibbson plagurize a Rachel Ray solution to this potential recipe for disaster?
One of the worst things that has happened in the last few years is that the reporters or talking heads have become the story. They interview each other. Tweety has Timmy on for a chat – what is that about?
The realization is dawning on me that my local affiliate appears to be staffed entirely by twits.
Anyone see this piece about the Al-Qaeda bureaucrats? Sort of puts an interesting face on the “enemy”. I wonder if this might not be their undoing in the long run…
Dugg!
The question is will Charlie asl the questions that we all want asked. Like should shrub be be investigated for war crimes for authorizing torture?? If congress fails to impeach Bush will you have your attorney general investigate the Bush administration for breaking numerous US and international laws?
Timmeh has great insight into what the Bush administration wants us to believe.
I’m not watching but I’m guessing she’s wearing a fetching shawl and seated sideways to the camera so we get the fulll draping effect of her delivery. Wow!
one cannot go…she is negative…why because she is not positive,or neutral
Heh. Now I’m getting Obama campaign commercials in the debate pregame. That seems… unnecessary.
Exactly. The only reason Tweety has guests on is so he isn’t caught talking to himself.
hahahhahahahahahaha
I like my Usque bae bitter…so let’s have it Straight Up!
And throw in a question about being an elitist, and watch that pitch be a fat one down the center of the plate, too! C’mon Charlie! Dare ya!
That is SO true. So much of TV “reporting” nowadays is these cats endlessly reporting and commenting on what other MSM reporters have written/said.
She was standing, but she was at about a three-quarters angle, maybe a little closer to sideways (five-eighths?).
Ooo, our local affiliate is interviewing Candy Crowley!
Eli, you oughta know – would that require a special lens of some sort?
707!
707
must be Tweets kin
how slimming.
They appeared to be using the Unnecessary Zoom lens.
teehee
Excuse me, you thought I said “snipers shooting”…I meant “snipe shooting”!
for you tape delayed pups.
Tonight @ 8PM! Exclusive WebCast of the Clinton-Obama Debate LIVE from the National Constitution Center.
now you have me laughing hysterically and I have to go pick up my kids! arg! Ah’ll be bach.
Oh, yes, yes. I hope Charlie also asks Obama all those obnoxious questions like why is he Muslim, does he hang out with the Black nut cases like Ayres and Farrakan, etc etc. Get into every tacky rumor, get it ‘on the table’ so Obama can ridicule the crazies. God don’t we all have a past, friends, etc. Soooo nuts and so damaging.
Ooo, our local affiliate is interviewing Candy Crowley!
Is she wearing the black leather big-cat suit again tonight?
If so, you may be excused for a bathroom break as needed.
we’re getting a taste from Millineryman
Yes, non-elite Hillary, wearing only the finest by Hermes. Those scarves of hers I understand each cost about half of what some families take home every week ($355 and up, per their website). A friend of mine who used to work for Hermes pointed out her proclivity for displaying her “non-elite” (snark) accessorizing.
This is the real question. And shots of what? And who can hold their liquor better?
It’s never stopped him before…
One of the audience members being interviewed just said that she was offended on behalf of the people who were offended by the Bitter comment. Alrighty then.
I thought it was so he wouldn’t get caught in some other feelgood activity on camera…
that must be a VERY big cat suit
And now a Hillary commercial, with the Ordinary People Who Are Terribly Offended By Barack’s Horrible Comments.
Anyone see this piece about the Al-Qaeda bureaucrats?
Yeah, if they’ve got the recruitment lists of AQ, then why are we holding people in Gitmo and elsewhere that aren’t in those records? Did it take them 5 years after capturing the files to get them translated because they didn’t want gay cooties on them?
Now I’m offended, and bitter about it.
donuts with sprinkles?
I want hard hitting questions over the coffee snub. Will orange juice play a prominent role in his campaign and administration?
I am bitter that I can’t seem to feel adequately offended.
lol
Maybe Charlie will put a shot of Crown Royal out for each of them…
A debate?
I wonder what the issues are.
I think it was clear that he was proclaiming his solidarity with notorious black murderer OJ Simpson, and promising to go on a homocidal rampage if he’s elected.
that must be a VERY big cat suit
Rumor has it that biologists have yet to come up with a name for a cat that big….
Now I’m offended, and bitter about it.
I’m offended by your offendedness. And my God can kick your immygrant God’s ass.
It’s all too much for me.
I have to go buy a lottery ticket. I have as much of a chance with that, as we have about getting anything substantial out of the moderator.
yes i want in depth questioning about the pros and cons of Oj…you know,fresh vs concentrate,pulp.or no pulp,bitting commentary
So far: 1 McCain commercial, 1 Clinton commercial, and 2 Obama commercials. Well, the same commercial twice, actually.
Awesome.
Doesn’t stop that either. You can see him doing it mentally with some of his guests as he drools over them.
hahhahahahahahahaha
Well before the earth started 6,000 years ago, they had cats that big ya know… I think that Noah only saved the small ones (room on the ark and all)
I can see Charlie Gibson asking a question like “Will you betray the success of the surge for a precipitate pullout that will lead to the destruction of Iraq and maybe the end of the world?”
With his follow up being, “Given that Iran is the devil incarnate, why will you not attack them?”
Mc Giggolo,is a self parody
all the keep doing down here is the pope visit stuff … and dont’ get me started on that … misogyny makes me very snarky
“So, are you and Saddam Hussein half-brothers, or just cousins?”
Or… will either of you if you are the nominee of your party have one of those really cool, neato buses like John McCain does?
Do remember to stay tuned in after the debate for Robert Greenwald’s CondiMustGo commercial!
Oh, and this is how powerful women dress: Get a clue, Hillary.
Well we know how elitist he was, being chauffered down the freeway in a white bronco
Wow… Tweety just discovered that republicans are pro-life.
“So, are you and Saddam Hussein half-brothers, or just cousins?”
and when did you stop beating his wife?
tell us the numbers!
Don’t forget “do you approve of Carter talking to Hamas” – big question.
ok what are we drinking?
Seeings how I am of Irish stock, I say fuck it, let’s have a drink, then we can offend everybody and they can all feel bitter, and offended, and bitter about being offended.
I think that Noah only saved the small ones (room on the ark and all)
Well, it might have just been out of fear that she’d eat all the other animals…
That one is definitely within the realm of possibility.
I suspect Olympics/Tibet will come up as well.
The Straight-Talk Express™ is doing figure 8’s in the parking lot.
[spewing water on my laptop]
Okay, that’s 1 Clinton ad, 2 McCains, and 3 Obamas.
Time to step it up, Hillary.
Chrystia Freeland just said that the national media is ignoring McVain’s antics. Woohooo!
Game-Time!!
Is it just starting? Or did I miss half?
Here we go… debate time
O folks. sorry I disappeared….I got sent out of my apt for laughing too loud. Thanks guys.
Charlie Gibson: welcome…bla bla bla
Thirty seconds in and they show Hillary calling Obama an elitist
Charlie has a new suit and tie I can tell.
Wait, I thought they weren’t allowing any applause.
Stoopit local affiliates…
applause for BHS
Clinton intro’d first applause
Obama intro’d applause, some hootin’ and hollerin’
They’re going to be lenient but not permissive on time.
Um.
no applause
Obama opens
first sip…here
Ah, they *are* banning applause. Let’s make sure there’s as little enthusiasm in the room as possible.
Obama comes out with a bitter body-shot….
It’s live on the television in my neck of the woods.
okay beer,or wine?
Obama: pennsylvanians decent and frustrated. taking his bitter remark off the table right up front. change, hope end frustration
Obama talking about people being frustrated and feeling trapped and ignored and screwed over.
Which he will transform into hope and listening.
DHS strikes again, what, they have NSA monitors there too?
CH CH CH changes
Wow the sound on the online 6abc site sucks; it’s really echo-y.
Does it sound bad on the teevee?
the shine the revenuer alotted me yesterday
Hillary has also noticed that the government is not working for ordinary people.
Hill does the stump
Clinton: america #1. promise of america alive and well in her and obama. gov’t not responsive. must do more to provide good jobs, healthcare, education restore america standing. must fulfill the promise of america begun in philly
Hillary comes back with a bitter jab
(all boxing fans know – don’t ever forget to jab)
sounds fine on this tv
wow… a commercial already. disney must be hurting for cash
Hills butt is twice the size of BHO …just sayin “g”
Here comes the first pitch….Wright over the plate!
STRIKE ONE!
Second one’s on it’s way…..Rezko on the inside corner!
STRIKE TWO!
Third pitch on the way….Oh my, it’s a screwball! Auchi for…
STRIKE THREE, AND OBAMA HAS STRUCK OUT!
FOLKS OBAMA HAS FANNED…GIBSON GASSED HIM!
IT’S OVER!
Except for the voting, SDs etc. But it will be over the first time anyone throws those pitches at Obama.
Over.
Do liberal boxers use the left cross?
Or the left Darwin fish, maybe…
707!
Wow, completely random Constitution quotes! Brilliant!
We only have local abc news on teevee here. Guess I’ll watch KO….
charlie and george. using constitution for framing questions
Hey, did you guy know there was a debate on? I thought Clinton had dropped out for the good of the party after she realized she couldn’t win and so the Democrats could present a united front to McCain and the Republicans? What happened?
Bs question
Uppercut is a favorite!
pssst Hi!
Great, it’s the mutual running mate question. I always thought that was a silly implausible idea.
will you all agree to kiss and make up and have the loser as your VP?
Obama dances away from a Gibson hay-maker…
what a shitty question. charlie trying to get a scoop
its meant to throw them off their game
How about each pledging to support the winner uncompromisingly and enthusiastically the moment after they concede?
is yours bigger or smaller?
shut up Charlie
Charlie is totally showing off his Mad Constitution Knowledge.
D ead L oser C aucus discovered secret polling which shows Obama-the-Bitter can’t win the GE. Small towns across Florida vowed to burn themselves down if the ‘race’ wasn’t allowed to continue!
than BO? or Hill?
obama: mcsame wants more of the same. hillary: “I want to make sure one of us takes the oath of office next january”.
blah blah
I think they both basically said, “Fuck you, Charlie, we will be a unified front, but we won’t be running mates.”
So concede, Hill…!
heh, indeed
combined answers of Obama and Hill to Charlie’s question – “fuck off Charlie – next question”.
And Hill just went off on a stump speech tangent.
Shot of Chelsea looking adoring and a little bit verklempt.
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbittttttttttttttttter
oh, god charlie going after the bitter remarks. enuff!
Wow, it only took two questions to get to the Bittergate question.
Here comes the Bitter BS!!!
how about charlie asks about bush admitting to torture?
Liveblog it, please! Thanks to those of you who are…
Obama saying that it sucks to be ordinary people, and they turn to other things when the government doesn’t help them.
yea,ABC/DISNEY …ONLY …..broke the story
obama: misspoke. ecomomic conditions suck, people take refuge in the familiar and things they have power over.
Religions and guns = Taking refuge in tradition.
Yo Charlie!
what jerk shallow questions.
hi Loo Hoo
It’s lonely out here on the left coast, isn’t it?
Hillary now saying that Obama insulted her family.
Clinton says she is the granddaughter of a mill worker. Boy, how much more working class can you get?
hi!
Hill is wrong
Hillary avoids jumping on Obama over Bitter-gate. New advisors?
KO has more recipegate coming up!
Yeah, ARod struck out! ;-)
Which makes him an upstanding and fine member of the VSP.
did he drink her milkshake too?
Where can I find this on west coast. Radio, internet? I am ABC site and all I get is stupid stories and pop-up ads.
but she dug NAFTA
yeah, it is.
Us left coasties never get any love
But she totally agrees that people are frustrated. *And* understands why people were offended. And we need to listen to each other, because she’s a down-to-earth woman of the people.
clinton: I was the granddaughter of a factory worker whose tax return was 109 million bucks. I have a feeling for how poor people feel and have learned it in weeks
Hello! And it is lonely, Twain. This is the stupidest thing…
Oh boy, they’ll have more questions on the same theme! I can’t wait!
SHITTENOPOLUS
Uppercut is a favorite!
don’t you mean an uppity-cut?
Clinton says she’s the granddaughter of a Common Joe from Scranton. She doesn’t understand that people would seek refuge in religion of traditions like hunting if the are in economic crisis.
Oh. I thought it was going to be actual people debating. But are we only going to get commercials debating each other?
Bob in HI
noooooooo teh stoopid it burns
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/st…..id=5901553
I can’t find it. Teddy can’t either.
try link at 204
I thought it was a Yes or No question, Hill!
Hill making sense
100% Of Clinton’s Current Pennsylvania Ads Are Negative
from Huff Po by The Huffington Post News Editors
TPM reports on the Clinton campaign going negative:
In case you needed further evidence that the Clinton forces think they have to go all-out against Barack Obama in order to rack up a significant victory, the American Leadership Project — the 527 group set up by Hillary donors and big unions to finance pro-Hillary ads — has a new spot up in Pennsylvania ripping Obama on health care.
This is on top of Hillary’s own ad campaign, which we’ve shown to be 100% negative at this point in most of the state.
this is the URL showing as I am streaming from that site;
Hillary not giving McCain much love. He has a great story and served his country, but he has the wrong ideas.
I can go along with that.
*And* she just said Obama is electable… but she’ll be a better president.
Nope … new polls showing her negative diatribe actually hurt her … hey Eli, how’s that for Karma ?
Us left coasties never get any love
Y’all get Late-Nite and Late-Late Nite….
HRC could shut this down and stop the stoopidity.. talk about something besides bitter
Stephano: Can Obama beat McCain?
Clinton: Yes
Good for her. Stephano is a git.
Maybe they’re hunting so they can have meat once in a while?
Hillary’s arm looks awfully masculine in the graphic.
So does Obama’s, for that matter.
Heh-heh.
And Obama has returned the favor.
And is saying the condescension accusation is ridiculous.
yes he is
thank you. I should always read all the commments at FDL before I say anything.
OMG let me just slit my wrists now. This entire debate will revolve around guns god and bitter.
I was desperate. I should have just posted a Bitter Beer Face commercial.
Clinton admits that either Obama or she can win, just that she can win “better”…she says she’s the best President and can do better than Obama.
But so does Obama.
Both of them are elitist…both think they are the ‘best”.
thanks I am listening to a tape delay thingee through some affiliate, courtesy of Elliott’s commment.
Obama: let’s move on from this
I think Obama just said that Hillary is very good at the wrong kind of politics. Nice one.
hahahahahaha
Okay, so 20 minutes already wasted
Obama is so manipulative!!!! Aargh!
This entire debate will revolve around guns god and bitter.
back in the good old days it was guns and butter.
her hackles went UP
stfu hillary and move on. no one “heard” these remarks until you made a big deal out of them. god waht a liar.
pretty darned tame so far – love fest….
Fight fans are frustrated (but Democrats are grateful).
howzzz that?
I am bitter.
hrc has 35 years. passion for empowering people, yeah if they are in the DLC
All tied up in Da Bronx…! 8-)
REV WRIGHT BS
rev wright up now from charlie
Asking Obama about Wright, casting doubt on whether he didn’t know about what kind of things Wright said.
Hillary, It wasn’t just the Republicans that “jumped on the remarks”…you were hammering the nails on misinterpreting the meaning as well!
is it just me or does that green line “flatline” every time Hill starts pontificatin?
Charlie is a hack
Have they spent the whole debate on this piffle?
this isn’t a debate, it’s an inquisition
Obama is walking the Wrightrope.
His bringing up her 1992 “cookies” comment.
He knows that created a firestorm of criticism of her, and he was clearly bringing it up to recall the criticism. I’ve seen him do this sort of thing in every single debate. He’s good: he makes it seem like he’s being magnanimous toward her, but it’s a ploy.
Don’t get me wrong: I’ll give him politica points for it, but it’s deceptive and contradicts himself, I think.
close ears all
HOW ABOUT TORTURE CHARLIE YOU HACK????
I am better. Or butter. I forget.
How’s about some real questions about Iraq, the economy…….
Once again, just like every other Democratic debate, questions have, each and every one, aimed at making one or the other candidate look bad.
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence….
Reverend Wright is the pretext that allows middle aged white men to say they can’t support Obama rather than just admitting they won’t vote for an African American.
On Olbermann, Howard Feinman says Lieberman is “bitter” and took the Lamont candidacy personally.
Ah, too bad.
can we have a single question about policy? war? economics? gitmo? torture? healthcare?
so tell me how that is MANIPULATIVE
Ask Clinton about her lying about trade while Bill rakes in large fees from Columbians? Bitter hypocrisy?
They will probably next ask why Michelle doesn’t like AMerica!!
Yes, although the economy is in the crapper, I want to hear about Rev. Wright.
im about to turn this off
Newsflash: The MSM is biased against the Dems …
Well, because his association with Wright proves that Obama is secretly one of *those* black people.
I am soooo not watching it when it is aired here…!
I didn’t know Hillary owned New York City. Is that elitist?
Which type?
Watch out there is no pc answer to this question!
and Hillary is full of shit,she goes to a RIGHT WING prayer breakfast
can’t either one of them just stand up to these morons? Now HRC could come out and say that McVain could have repudiated Falwell/Robertson’s remarks about 9.11 but no, she’s going on about her superiority in choosing pastors
Clinton: You don’t get to choose your family but you do get to choose your pastor.
A little Freudian there, Hil?
I am a Wright winger.
letters to ABc …you suck
Obama saying get off this Wright bullshit, look at my record.
Snuffalupagus asking whether Wright loves America as much as he does. Or something. WTF.
enough with rev wright! ack!
That sound is not audience members clapping, they’re slapping themselves to keep awake …
GEORGE BUSH ADMITTED HANGING OUT WITH HIS PEEPS CHATTIN’ ON TORTURE
Where are the questions about that?
stfanidiot- presses it again and again and again.
Soooo Eli, guess that answers one of your questions. Charlie has gone and embarassed himself. *sigh* I miss Peter Jennings
OMG!
Stephano: Does Rev. Wright love America as much as you do?
I amend what I said before. He is a mindless git.
they should change the question…dont answer them…
Who loves America more? WTF?
I wish there were a way to see this online… the first time in ages I wish I had a television set.
we can’t get by this can we?
STRIKE ONE!
Just looks like we can talk about this all night….crazy.
enough with rev wright! ack!
but The Rev is running for President, isn’t he?
Or maybe I’m getting confused here.
he gets paid,100,000 dollars for each hit
I’m a left-Wright winger too
and proud of it!
Wright served in Nam you dumbf*cks…!
nah, you’re better off without it. nothing of substance has been said.
HRC was just given the opportunity to go beyond this, (next question) and CHOSE not to. FU HRC.
Hill is down and dirty
HRC syas we need to hear more explanations. Now explain Farrakan GAG
Do journos who have let themselves be bought and paid for the corporations who own them love America? Just asking.
argh!!!!! church bulletin to Hamas …what BS
Good Heavens … HRC playing concern troll … L8R dudes …
are you honest HRC?
hahhahahaahaahaaaa…HILL YOUR FULL OF SHIT
steffanidiot- HRC not honest. bosnia sniper fire.
since I wanna stay sober, I’m only gonna have a drink if a substantial question gets asked. No hangover for me tomorrow.
Hill is a mess
There IS a way to see this online – GO HERE
And now a Bosnia question.
And I just put up a fresh, shiny new debate thread.
new thread up
I just tuned in and I’m ready to tune out already. Does anyone have any reason why I should stay? I mean, after all, I have lint to pick out of my navel…
she keeps Lying
I do usually get a headache when I watch such things…
I’ve not watched one second of the debate tonight. Let me guess, Hillary is wearing a cowgirl outfit and refuses to admit it when the moderator points it out?
Hillary is attacking Brack by innuendo…Hamas, Farrakhan, Khadaffy…none of this has anything to do with Obama, or the issues that really affect Americans!
Now they are going after Hillary for her Tuzsla stuff!
Sheesh…when are we going to get anything about the economy, inflation spiralling out of control, Iraq, torture, the destruction of the Constitution.
This is putrid!
The Stanley Cup playoffs are on. The fighting there is much better… and part of the game. I turned the debate on for about 02 seconds and had to turn it off. HRC is truly disgusting. She and Steffi make a good one-two punch.
Don’t worry about it. I don’t expect his supporters to see it.
Thanks, jacqrat!
Most neocons are very good at diverting attention away from their own shortcomings. See? Hillary is becoming a master at it. Sad.
It would appear that Stepanopolous is loading his questions. In fact, this entire charade is a load. “Can you guarantee that you won’t raise taxes on those making under $200,000.00?”….oh for gawd’s sake….and as for the Ayers question? http://blog.washingtonpost.com…..ction.html
Questionners: will you take a PLEDGE that you will not raise taxes above…
Then: If Obama will raise the cap on the Payroll Tax, that is “raising taxes” (announces the smug questionner)! HaHa!
Then: Clinton says SHE won’t raise taxes like that, but would appoint a commission.
Then: Obama says she can’t have it both ways: If a prior commission raised some taxes, raised the retirement age, then she can’t complain that he would consider some possibilities.
STUCK AGAIN on that stupid premise that “raising taxes” is BAD. And ignoring that gazillionaires pay NO TAXES (is that fair? questionners don’t ask that, of course)