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	<title>Comments on: Senator Whitehouse Talks About Justice and the Rule of Law</title>
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		<title>By: timbo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1393669</link>
		<dc:creator>timbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Again?  Why no impeachments of GWB &amp; Co?  Bush and his gang have violated their oaths of office to the Constitution.  They have demonstrated little respect for the law, and that only for appearances sake.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, Senator Whitehouse, I have one question for you–why haven’t you asked the House Judiciary committee to provide the Senate with Articles of Impeachment based on your’s (and theirs?) findings?  Seriously, how is it that a political party can be so disorganized that they cannot remove a criminal conspiracy to violate so many laws, so many violations of oaths of office, from being dealt with by the Congress of the United States?  At what point would the Democrats ever think of Impeachment if these are not cases where they should be considered?  It is  astonishing and frightening that no national political figure in federal position of power has sufficient moral fortitude to push this process through over a whole term of Congress.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact, is would seem that the criminal conspiracies, the rot, has reached into both the GOP and Dems so badly that only a complete change in leadership, top to bottom, would hold any hopes of righting the sinking ship of our once great Republican form of government.  Given the growing control of our political “dialog” in this country by Punch and Judy impersonators, it seems that the ship may well sink.  Already, one can smell the biggest rats gathering their treasure and preparing to flee…offshore tax shelters anyone?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again?  Why no impeachments of GWB &amp; Co?  Bush and his gang have violated their oaths of office to the Constitution.  They have demonstrated little respect for the law, and that only for appearances sake.</p>
<p>So, Senator Whitehouse, I have one question for you–why haven’t you asked the House Judiciary committee to provide the Senate with Articles of Impeachment based on your’s (and theirs?) findings?  Seriously, how is it that a political party can be so disorganized that they cannot remove a criminal conspiracy to violate so many laws, so many violations of oaths of office, from being dealt with by the Congress of the United States?  At what point would the Democrats ever think of Impeachment if these are not cases where they should be considered?  It is  astonishing and frightening that no national political figure in federal position of power has sufficient moral fortitude to push this process through over a whole term of Congress.</p>
<p>In fact, is would seem that the criminal conspiracies, the rot, has reached into both the GOP and Dems so badly that only a complete change in leadership, top to bottom, would hold any hopes of righting the sinking ship of our once great Republican form of government.  Given the growing control of our political “dialog” in this country by Punch and Judy impersonators, it seems that the ship may well sink.  Already, one can smell the biggest rats gathering their treasure and preparing to flee…offshore tax shelters anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: siri</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1391755</link>
		<dc:creator>siri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it, I would like to see Senator Whitehouse in the the position of AG in the next administration.  And though I’m against government expansion in general, I would like to see AG Whitehouse create and oversee a whole new department dedicated to examination and investigation of the Bush Administration and indicting, prosecuting and imprisoning criminals &lt;em&gt;irregardless of who they may be&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And tear down that f*#/Xing LIBRARY!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it, I would like to see Senator Whitehouse in the the position of AG in the next administration.  And though I’m against government expansion in general, I would like to see AG Whitehouse create and oversee a whole new department dedicated to examination and investigation of the Bush Administration and indicting, prosecuting and imprisoning criminals <em>irregardless of who they may be</em>.</p>
<p>And tear down that f*#/Xing LIBRARY!</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;1) An executive order cannot limit a President. There is no constitutional requirement for a President to issue a new executive order whenever he wishes to depart from the terms of a previous executive order. Rather than violate an executive order, the President has instead modified or waived it;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) The President, exercising his constitutional authority under Article II, can determine whether an action is a lawful exercise of the President’s authority under Article II; and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3) The Department of Justice is bound by the President’s legal determinations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rule No. 1.  El Presidente is head of Pre-Crime; he knows when he’s going to break the law, sometimes he hasn’t a clue, but gives himself an advance pardon.  He tells no one.  He creates secret laws and doesn’t write them down except when he wants to, often only to accuse someone else of breaking them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rule No. 2.  El Presidente breaks the law, but arrogates to himself the role of judge, so that he can issue himself an advance pardon.  He tells no one except when he wants to, often only when he wants to accuse the legislature of the ”prohibited act” of stepping on his executive turf.  That is, when it tries to fulfill its own constitutional obligations to defend the Constitution and uphold the law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rule No. 3.  El Presidente breaks the law with impunity.  He is Prince John, not Richard the Lionhearted.  He is a usurper who became king, whose reign is so loathed in fact and legend, by serf and noble, that no subsequent monarch has dared name himself John II.  Only el Presidente may tell lawyers what the law is; it does not exist of its own right and cannot be used to question his divine right.  Atavistic arguments discarded in blood and law for three hundred fifty years, like the right to torture.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s the new American Constitution, ratified by the Cheney Territory and the State of Bush, binding on an incompetent head of state and his dominatrix vice president.  Not a mad house, a house of horrors.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>1) An executive order cannot limit a President. There is no constitutional requirement for a President to issue a new executive order whenever he wishes to depart from the terms of a previous executive order. Rather than violate an executive order, the President has instead modified or waived it;</p>
<p>2) The President, exercising his constitutional authority under Article II, can determine whether an action is a lawful exercise of the President’s authority under Article II; and</p>
<p>3) The Department of Justice is bound by the President’s legal determinations.</p>
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<p>Rule No. 1.  El Presidente is head of Pre-Crime; he knows when he’s going to break the law, sometimes he hasn’t a clue, but gives himself an advance pardon.  He tells no one.  He creates secret laws and doesn’t write them down except when he wants to, often only to accuse someone else of breaking them.</p>
<p>Rule No. 2.  El Presidente breaks the law, but arrogates to himself the role of judge, so that he can issue himself an advance pardon.  He tells no one except when he wants to, often only when he wants to accuse the legislature of the ”prohibited act” of stepping on his executive turf.  That is, when it tries to fulfill its own constitutional obligations to defend the Constitution and uphold the law.</p>
<p>Rule No. 3.  El Presidente breaks the law with impunity.  He is Prince John, not Richard the Lionhearted.  He is a usurper who became king, whose reign is so loathed in fact and legend, by serf and noble, that no subsequent monarch has dared name himself John II.  Only el Presidente may tell lawyers what the law is; it does not exist of its own right and cannot be used to question his divine right.  Atavistic arguments discarded in blood and law for three hundred fifty years, like the right to torture.</p>
<p>That’s the new American Constitution, ratified by the Cheney Territory and the State of Bush, binding on an incompetent head of state and his dominatrix vice president.  Not a mad house, a house of horrors.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1391753</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ann - i’ve got to run to go work on another project right now, but those are great suggestions you make. i should definitely put the congress contact links on the side bar. if you would be so kind as to either leave me a comment (for example on the post with the house’s contact info) or via the contact page for the website i will follow up later…. and i can easily make the phone call myself (i pay a flat monthly fee, so it doesn’t matter if i make a lot of calls or just a few). but i’m for sure going to forget…. if you don’t remind me!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ann &#8211; i’ve got to run to go work on another project right now, but those are great suggestions you make. i should definitely put the congress contact links on the side bar. if you would be so kind as to either leave me a comment (for example on the post with the house’s contact info) or via the contact page for the website i will follow up later…. and i can easily make the phone call myself (i pay a flat monthly fee, so it doesn’t matter if i make a lot of calls or just a few). but i’m for sure going to forget…. if you don’t remind me!</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1391749</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, what you suggested will be fine.  I just looked through the “Links” column on the side of your “blog” page and the “Congressional Hearings” page and I couldn’t find it there, so I wondered.  These things are extremely useful.  For instance, your phone and fax numbers for the congress.  I still use them (I downloaded them from your page).  But if they weren’t already on my computer, I don’t know if I’d remember how to get to them.  Be sure to make them accessible to search engines also, BTW.  Really good job!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, I’m not sure Pelosi’s fax # is right?  I thought it was, since I’ve faxed before to that number and it supposedly went through, but who knows if it went to Pelosi’s office.  I tried to fax it to your number the other day, and I think someone answered, although I had the sound down too low to hear very well, and wasn’t quick enough to pick up and ask.  But I did also find a new number when I googled…that number is:202-225-8259.  I found it listed in several places, but I don’t know anymore about whether it’s the right number than I do about whether your number is right, so I guess I’ll flip a coin or call her office and ask…I would have already but it’s long distance and I’m reluctant due to financial constraints.  A nickel here, a dime there, pretty soon it starts to add up to a fair amount of money, so to speak.  Thanks for all you do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, what you suggested will be fine.  I just looked through the “Links” column on the side of your “blog” page and the “Congressional Hearings” page and I couldn’t find it there, so I wondered.  These things are extremely useful.  For instance, your phone and fax numbers for the congress.  I still use them (I downloaded them from your page).  But if they weren’t already on my computer, I don’t know if I’d remember how to get to them.  Be sure to make them accessible to search engines also, BTW.  Really good job!</p>
<p>BTW, I’m not sure Pelosi’s fax # is right?  I thought it was, since I’ve faxed before to that number and it supposedly went through, but who knows if it went to Pelosi’s office.  I tried to fax it to your number the other day, and I think someone answered, although I had the sound down too low to hear very well, and wasn’t quick enough to pick up and ask.  But I did also find a new number when I googled…that number is:202-225-8259.  I found it listed in several places, but I don’t know anymore about whether it’s the right number than I do about whether your number is right, so I guess I’ll flip a coin or call her office and ask…I would have already but it’s long distance and I’m reluctant due to financial constraints.  A nickel here, a dime there, pretty soon it starts to add up to a fair amount of money, so to speak.  Thanks for all you do.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1391747</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;here are the tags i added:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sheldon, Whitehouse, DOJ, Mukasey, Gonzales, FISA, torture, Yoo, pixiedust, Office of Legal Counsel, Department of Justice, Senator, OLC&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;once the google spider crawls the page (which should be soon if LHP links to it from here), you should be able to google on these keywords and the document title (the top three lines on the page, excluding the reference link) to find it via google.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here are the tags i added:</p>
<p>Sheldon, Whitehouse, DOJ, Mukasey, Gonzales, FISA, torture, Yoo, pixiedust, Office of Legal Counsel, Department of Justice, Senator, OLC</p>
<p>once the google spider crawls the page (which should be soon if LHP links to it from here), you should be able to google on these keywords and the document title (the top three lines on the page, excluding the reference link) to find it via google.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1391743</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think i understand - there isn’t, for example, a link on the top navigation bar for it. i have a ton of stuff on the site like that - everything from the first audio file i hosted for glenn greenwald almost 2 years ago to random stuff fdl commentors wanted to make available to each other to my list of al gore speeches. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the main idea was to let LHP have a link to use - so people reading her post here would know where to find it if they want to read the whole thing. in that way, you can kinda think about it as though it were attached to this page, and not so much to my site.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but, i’ll add some meta tags to it today so that it will show up in google searches. and when i get my act together (hah!), i’ll try to remember to make a resource list page of this kind of thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;will that help address your concern? if you have any suggestions, please feel free to suggest away - and there is a contact form on the site you can use for that kind of thing too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think i understand &#8211; there isn’t, for example, a link on the top navigation bar for it. i have a ton of stuff on the site like that &#8211; everything from the first audio file i hosted for glenn greenwald almost 2 years ago to random stuff fdl commentors wanted to make available to each other to my list of al gore speeches. </p>
<p>the main idea was to let LHP have a link to use &#8211; so people reading her post here would know where to find it if they want to read the whole thing. in that way, you can kinda think about it as though it were attached to this page, and not so much to my site.</p>
<p>but, i’ll add some meta tags to it today so that it will show up in google searches. and when i get my act together (hah!), i’ll try to remember to make a resource list page of this kind of thing.</p>
<p>will that help address your concern? if you have any suggestions, please feel free to suggest away &#8211; and there is a contact form on the site you can use for that kind of thing too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1391738</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Selise,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I haven’t had time to read the speech yet, although it looks just fine as far as formatting goes, etc.  My question is, how do you get there from anywhere else if you don’t have the link available.  Does it show up on anywhere in a table of contents?  Does the page have a search function that would take you there if you entered Sheldon Whitehouse?  If I went to Hugh’s list, for instance, and I knew that the speech was somewhere on the site, how would I find it?  I poked around a bit, but I didn’t see it on any listing, if you know what I mean?  Please clarify or do I need to clarify further what I  mean?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selise,</p>
<p>I haven’t had time to read the speech yet, although it looks just fine as far as formatting goes, etc.  My question is, how do you get there from anywhere else if you don’t have the link available.  Does it show up on anywhere in a table of contents?  Does the page have a search function that would take you there if you entered Sheldon Whitehouse?  If I went to Hugh’s list, for instance, and I knew that the speech was somewhere on the site, how would I find it?  I poked around a bit, but I didn’t see it on any listing, if you know what I mean?  Please clarify or do I need to clarify further what I  mean?</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1391733</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LHP - please check your email from me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LHP &#8211; please check your email from me.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/senator-whitehouse-talks-about-justice-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1391732</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for giving it a look over.. was a bit rushed in trying to get it up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for giving it a look over.. was a bit rushed in trying to get it up.</p>
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