Comments on: Late Late Nite FDL: For the Turnstiles http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:14:54 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393859 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:28:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393859 <p>This biased debate has changed things in Pennsylvania and maybe Nationally the young Obama supporters just saw first hand the most biased Debate I have seen in my lifetime.<br /> I wonder how they will react?<br /> I wonder how the older voters who remember Nixon will react?<br /> I’m thinking ABC has just pissed off our base and made them even more determined to vote.<br /> But with all the polling ABC does I wonder if the suits upstairs ordered this despite warnings from their own pollsters about what would happen.<br /> I’m guessing some people are getting nervous and ordering all the stops be taken out to stop the Democrats.<br /> But such a move that defeats itself suggests inexperience in the command level deciders and Panic. They are not listening to the pollsters on the ground.</p> This biased debate has changed things in Pennsylvania and maybe Nationally the young Obama supporters just saw first hand the most biased Debate I have seen in my lifetime.
I wonder how they will react?
I wonder how the older voters who remember Nixon will react?
I’m thinking ABC has just pissed off our base and made them even more determined to vote.
But with all the polling ABC does I wonder if the suits upstairs ordered this despite warnings from their own pollsters about what would happen.
I’m guessing some people are getting nervous and ordering all the stops be taken out to stop the Democrats.
But such a move that defeats itself suggests inexperience in the command level deciders and Panic. They are not listening to the pollsters on the ground.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393858 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:13:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393858 <p>I wonder how ABC will respond to the complaints? I wonder how will Hilary and Obama respond you can’t ignore over Ten Thousand complaints!<br /> For now we have not only Proof of Media Bias, we also have proof that America hates the biased way the Main Stream Media covers/tries to slant the news their way.<br /> When Tweety kept harping on Hilary crying he drove New Hampshire voters in droves to vote for Hilary. These independent voters undecided between Hilary and Obama not undecided like they would vote for McCain got so angry at Tweety that they choose to stick it to him by voting for Hilary.<br /> I understand that independents or rather undecided voters normally split down the middle unless something happens, the “Tweety Effect ” happened.<br /> No how will the “Tweety Effect” which I think is defined by the voters action in response to the press being obviously unfair and biased take shape this time in Pennsylvania?<br /> Will Tweety blame the polling for being wrong again? Will ABC admit the “Tweety Effect ” is real? Heck if the media keeps this up they might give us another 5% pints come election time.</p> I wonder how ABC will respond to the complaints? I wonder how will Hilary and Obama respond you can’t ignore over Ten Thousand complaints!
For now we have not only Proof of Media Bias, we also have proof that America hates the biased way the Main Stream Media covers/tries to slant the news their way.
When Tweety kept harping on Hilary crying he drove New Hampshire voters in droves to vote for Hilary. These independent voters undecided between Hilary and Obama not undecided like they would vote for McCain got so angry at Tweety that they choose to stick it to him by voting for Hilary.
I understand that independents or rather undecided voters normally split down the middle unless something happens, the “Tweety Effect ” happened.
No how will the “Tweety Effect” which I think is defined by the voters action in response to the press being obviously unfair and biased take shape this time in Pennsylvania?
Will Tweety blame the polling for being wrong again? Will ABC admit the “Tweety Effect ” is real? Heck if the media keeps this up they might give us another 5% pints come election time.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393857 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:54:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393857 <p>We need to ask Charlie if he used clout to avoid the war? Maybe thanks to his own experiences he sees himself in President Alabama Guard Bush? That might explain his questions.<br /> But who is his editor and research guy those economic questions he was talking about were Larry Kudlow’s discredited talking points.<br /> Nobody takes those ideas seriously anymore at least not after seven years of Bush proving those ideas don’t work.</p> We need to ask Charlie if he used clout to avoid the war? Maybe thanks to his own experiences he sees himself in President Alabama Guard Bush? That might explain his questions.
But who is his editor and research guy those economic questions he was talking about were Larry Kudlow’s discredited talking points.
Nobody takes those ideas seriously anymore at least not after seven years of Bush proving those ideas don’t work.

]]> By: Smgumby http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393856 Smgumby Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:48:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393856 <p>I let ‘em know, but in an email to the station.</p> I let ‘em know, but in an email to the station.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393855 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:47:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393855 <p>Goodnite Suzanne!</p> Goodnite Suzanne!

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393854 newtonusr Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:47:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393854 <p>nite suz</p> nite suz

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393853 cinnamonape Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:46:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393853 <p>Most people of that era were advised to join the National Guard or Coast Guard if their deferments had run out. Many had to have someone pull some strings to get in, demand was so high. Despite the general idea that serving in the USCG was a guarantee that you wouldn’t be sent to “Nam a few Coast Guard vessels were sent…but only a very small percentage. Navy was a greater risk of being in combat, and National Guard was almost zero. But if you were drafted…usually it was the infantry…and for many years that meant ‘Nam. A few were able to get special assignments, again by connections.</p> <p>I don’t think Gibson ever served in Vietnam, and it’s likely he would have been drafted. To get in the USCG the physical standards were generally higher than the normal draft.</p> Most people of that era were advised to join the National Guard or Coast Guard if their deferments had run out. Many had to have someone pull some strings to get in, demand was so high. Despite the general idea that serving in the USCG was a guarantee that you wouldn’t be sent to “Nam a few Coast Guard vessels were sent…but only a very small percentage. Navy was a greater risk of being in combat, and National Guard was almost zero. But if you were drafted…usually it was the infantry…and for many years that meant ‘Nam. A few were able to get special assignments, again by connections.

I don’t think Gibson ever served in Vietnam, and it’s likely he would have been drafted. To get in the USCG the physical standards were generally higher than the normal draft.

]]> By: Suzanne http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393852 Suzanne Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:45:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393852 <p>ok, pups, that’s about it for me tonight. g’nite all.</p> ok, pups, that’s about it for me tonight. g’nite all.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393851 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:45:02 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393851 <p>I got three comments there one was a repeat. I wonder how many other fire pups lifted their legs and let ABC know that we were marking our turf?</p> I got three comments there one was a repeat. I wonder how many other fire pups lifted their legs and let ABC know that we were marking our turf?

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393850 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:42:23 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/late-late-nite-fdl-for-the-turnstiles/#comment-1393850 <p>The next step after that is punishment<br /> I think trials for Judy Miller, Scooter and the Neocons for lying to America about WMD should be turned over to the Hague.<br /> I think any company who screwed the troops is guilty of treason during wartime. Which I think means the Death Penalty.<br /> I think Condi, Ashcrowft, Darth all should go to the Hague for war crimes as should Bush.<br /> Otherwise in ten years the film Rambo 7? will be set in Iraq teaching a generation of kids who know nothing about this war that we could have won if only the Liberals had let Bush take the gloves off.<br /> Yes its hard to believe the Dems could be blamed for stopping Bush, but the GOP does need someone else besides themselves to blame.<br /> President Ford’s decision to Pardon Nixon was wrong this time we need a trial to place blame, punish the guilty, and show the world the law matters. At 70% I do not think we should worry about tearing America apart.</p> The next step after that is punishment
I think trials for Judy Miller, Scooter and the Neocons for lying to America about WMD should be turned over to the Hague.
I think any company who screwed the troops is guilty of treason during wartime. Which I think means the Death Penalty.
I think Condi, Ashcrowft, Darth all should go to the Hague for war crimes as should Bush.
Otherwise in ten years the film Rambo 7? will be set in Iraq teaching a generation of kids who know nothing about this war that we could have won if only the Liberals had let Bush take the gloves off.
Yes its hard to believe the Dems could be blamed for stopping Bush, but the GOP does need someone else besides themselves to blame.
President Ford’s decision to Pardon Nixon was wrong this time we need a trial to place blame, punish the guilty, and show the world the law matters. At 70% I do not think we should worry about tearing America apart.

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