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Good morning, Christy. A call to arms on FISA? Off to warm up the home office fax…

If Bush vetos a FISA bill, we could call him “soft on terror.”

christy – aren’t we better off with no bill instead of the current house bill? couldn’t we wait for next january and then try to get something like rush holt’s original bill passed?

i was ok with the restore act II if it was that or the senate bill…. but i think i prefer nothing at this point.

Oh, Great! I’m so glad you are writng about this

Morning all — it’s gorgeous here today. Hope all is well with everyone else…

The problem is that there has been a push on the Senate bill internally again. I’d prefer no bill, but if I’m going to have to choose one — I’d rather have the House one. Or at least sufficient pushback to keep the Senate one from passing at all.

And from what I’m hearing, they need help with pushback…hence the request for contacts.

thanks — that makes sense. I’ve been with selise — no bill is better. But, if they’re going to do something, would prefer house bill.
call to my not-so-favorite senator Salazar done …

E-mail’s have been sent, from Leahy’s urging e-mail. I’ll follow up with a phone call.

It is so depressing to see both our presidential candidates names on that list of people who need a “nudge.”

My worthless Senators (reddest of the red Idaho) will send me a condescending e-mail in response, assuring me I’m wrong and they must kiss Bush ass(while tapping their foot, in Craig’s case), but I do what I can to show them somebody is paying attention.

Selise – I agree, no action would be better, but if they are going to act, we need them to be looking to the House not that other dreck.

OT: Here is the only coverage of Bush’s admission to authorizing torture that I’ve found from any major news organization: http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01428.html

Good morning Christy

To the faxes!

okay, Feinstein and Mikulsky done – am sending Obama and Clinton faxes to their Senate offices and campaign sites

efax – 30 day free trial

This may be a stretch…”Now we need your help to make sure that our colleagues in the Senate know that the American people are watching..” Patrick Leahy. “It was a symbol of the fight for freedom. A symbol of standing up to Nazism, and of not giving in..” Marek Edelman, last living commander from the Warsaw Ghetto. Uprising. http://www.abcnews.go.com/Inte…..id=4658377

Thanks Christy. Will dig into phone calls shortly.

Pleased to note that my two Senators are on the do-not-need-to-call nonlist, so I will call elsewhere…and hey, my weekend Minn senators not listed either, so will call….hmmmm… BFFs Lieberman and Reid?

The self-admitted on Imus Show, Senate’s most bitter man and the Leader? Yeah, that’s the ticket.

I listened so you didn’t have to, pups. Report at:
Prairie Today: Basking Shark

Maybe all the tradmed are waiting for Jon Stewart to report on it first?

Any idea who’s trying to push this thru Senate again? Republicans? Lie-berman? Kaiser Sosay?

Just because your Senators aren’t on the list, doesn’t mean they don’t need a call. It’s just that the ones on the list are either serial wafflers or members of the Gang of 14 and need extra attention, that’s all. But EVERY Senator needs to know that we are watching them on this — and that we are opposed to telecom immunity, and violations of the 4th amendment and basket warrants. We expect them to stand up for the rule of law, and we are watching them. Period.

McConnell and Lott Bond have been making another pass at it on the Administration’s behalf, which says to me that Cheney’s behind it again…but there have been a lot of swirling rumors on this, not the least of which is another big push from the telecom lobby as well.

Prairie Sunshine @15 – fond memories of both Dorgan and Conrad. I campaigned for Conrad, all those years ago, when he beat Andrews.

There are many things I love about Idaho. The politics here? Not so much.

Wait, Coleman’s on the list…sorry for the oversight. Hmmm, must make calls. Good point, Christy @ 18. Lott’s outa Senate tho’–who took his leader slot?

Probably means a push via the media as well on the ground in the Capitol reading questions from their BushCo scripts….

Strange feeling of pride not to see my own Senators on the list as well. As if I influenced their decision!

But as soon as these kidlets get on the bus, I will see if I can influence other people’s Senators!

work for change, leinie, it may seem ponderous, but enough shoulders to the boulder and it moves.

I’ve been meaning to write Webb. I’m hoping that opening with “thank you for speaking with me about this at the fundraiser two weeks ago” will get it more attention than usual.

ok, but when i call, i’m going to call and ask for holt’s bill. *g*

otherwise i worry that what we’ll get is a “compromise” between the current version of the restore act and the senate bill. i hate starting from a already compromised position.

All of us who have our own wee blogs, lets also put in a blurb up top right now linking to Christy’s action call here.

Movin’ the boulder, movin’ the boulder….

race ya….

Oh hell — I’m so used to it being the McConnell/Lott two-step, I typed Lott when I meant the evil gnome from Intel — Kit Bond. ooops — sorry about that!

Or the right tools. *g*

I love it when you put things this way…I just do a copy and paste and put that in my letters and emails – pithy, to the point. I many times find it hard to do that.

I’m sorry about Kit Bond, too, Christy *g*

Okay, pups, I’ve added an action call link to my site, how about you…play it forward. Show me yours….

Accountability…it’s so…American.

As a reformed Accountant, I salute you!!

Why need the house act on any bill? The danger is that rather than have no bill, the house will go along with the senate. Hopefully Nancy Pelosi will be Horatio at the bridge, but with her promotion she seems to have lost her nerve.

Or, insert something like this in a comment at your second, third, fourth favorite blogs:

ACTION CALL TODAY! led by Christy at Firedoglake.
Contact your Senators today and ask them to reject the telecom immunity Senate bill for either “no bill” or House bill… accountability–it’s so, how you say it, American.

Let’s show we can take this viral.
….channeling Margaret “a [not-so-] small group of people…” Mead today

go here, find their likely opponent and urge them to put their support of the House bill on their sites and in their campaign literature – inform the incumbent of same

08 Senate Races – wiki

The House already voted a bill through — it’s the Senate that is poised to take action at this point. While no bill would be preferable, as I told selise upthread, the Senate Intel bill is absolutely unacceptable. So please take the time to let your Senators know that you find the Senate intel bill unacceptable as well — no telecom immunity, no 4th amendment violations, no basket warrants — and that you expect them to stand up for the rule of law.

Thank you Christy… and Marcy Wheeler, Glenn Greenwald and of course everyone at FDL for staying on top of this and not letting it slip out of our collective attention. We have to make this issue our line in the sand after having let so many of our true American values tossed aside.

We need to expand this beyond just the involved progressive community, though. Everyone should be able to relate to having to obey the rule of law, whether its not being able to get out a parking ticket or having a criminal record haunt you for life. Allowing multi-billion dollar corporations to be pardoned for subverting the law and giving in to warrantless searches would be an AWFUL precedent.

If we allow this, then any & every time that companies/individuals face the choice of holding fast to the law or giving in to a belligerent government, they will give in. Every. Single. Time. Why not? If you don’t give in, you know that the government will demonize your actions and spend millions to attempt to subvert the system. You may be labeled unpatriotic or worse, anti-American, and may lose everything. But if you cooperate, nothing will happen because you will be said to have been doing your patriotic duty in violating law and allowing the government to subvert Constitutional protections. Even if immunity isn’t granted for your actions like for the telecoms, you could use the telecoms immunity in court to convince a judge or jury to view it as legal precedent for your own complicity.

This is the one issue on which I will harass even those friends & family I know not to have any interest/desire in hearing about politics. I urge you all to do the same, and then to urge others to bother their own friends/family.

I was just thinking over the weekend that we need another big push to let the Congress know we haven’t forgotten about FISA and telecom immunity and that we’ll remember it in elections both general and primary. And of course, along comes FDL (along with Conyers & Leahy, credit where credit is due) with a timely reminder!

Good Morning Christy, and thank you.

I’ve got Voinovich (R-hopelesshaplesshelpless toady) to write to, but the closer his own re-election battle looms (’10?), the more anxious he seems to be growing, so I can at least annoy him s’more. He’s a waste of a perfectly good chair in the Senate. When he’s pestered enough, he finally sends a written – well – pot of gooey fudge(?) i.e., lots of words (2-3 pages usually!) starting with a l-o-n-g description of “issue(s)” and all mixed up apparently in an effort to throw the constituent off the scent of just what it was they had asked for. I suspect he organizes his thots using refrigerator magnets.

I’ll write him anyway, to tickle his nose yet again with that feather that just won’t go away. After all, he did actually whine the other day to betrayus that the wah on terrah was gittin’ too expensive, sigh. Rumdumbum.
Throw him a crumb.

Sherrod Brown, I don’t worry about. But I’ll write a proactive thank you to him for what I am sure he will want to do anyway. It never hurts to prop them up and let them know we’re out here supporting them.

quite an understandable whoopsie. *g*

Thanks Christy.

I got Leahy’s email yesterday, but I wanted to get the FDL imprimatur before moving forward.

Great idea. Thanks for the link.

OT – just sittin’ here watching Bush’s speech to da Pope….

And waiting patiently for lightning to come out of a clear blue sky and strike Bush’s lying ass down……..

And this bears watching as well: Hoyer GOP’s new BFF on FISA negotiations from The Hill. You can bet I’ll be asking around on that…

Terrific move. But be careful and make sure the link will work. Mine that are copied a 2nd time do not.

Ohhh, they do get used to those silk pillows in a hurry, don’t they!?!

as I’ve noted several times here, Evan Bayh, he of the Pudding Spine, is very susceptible to pressure when deluged upon a particular issue….

The link doesn’t carry over, I’ve found. But it’s easy enough to copy this page addy and paste into the link window. Just make sure you’ve got an active [blue] link before submitting a comment.

I’d like to see the Pope tightly clutching his crucifix while in the presence of Cheney.

Oh, and if you do get some solid info from any particular Senate office — either against the Senate intel bill or for it — do let us know here in the comments, if you would please. We’re trying to keep track of who is where on this as best we can, and every piece of information helps clarify things a bit further — although, obviously, some info is more helpful than others. *g*

I’d like to see the Pope tightly clutching his crucifix while in the presence of Cheney.

I’m thinking that Cheney might melt like the Wicked Witch of the West in the presence of a crucifix. Don’t think that those two are gonna get together.

Also, it’s very difficult to come up with a pious-looking sneer…

I keep thinking about the lack of uproar over Bush’s acknowledgment of torture and how best ot make it resonate with the electorate (the fact that it doesn’t is scary for our democracy’s future). Thinking of an LTE that would consist entirely of Bush’s own words:

Oath to protect and defend Constitution.
“First job is to protect Americans.”
“It’s just a goddamned piece of paper.”
“It would be easier as a dictator, as long as I’m the dictator.”
“We are certain they have WMD’s”
“The war will cost … and last 6 weeks, maybe.”
“We don’t torture.”
I know what they were doing and they had my full consent and approval.”

Those are off the top of my head, but I would make them accurate when finished. Any other grand quotes I’m forgetting? Thanks. Off to work, but will check back later.

from Christy’s link …

Hoyer’s credibility among Republicans and conservative Democrats has served as a valuable asset to the Democratic leadership and placed him in the middle of this year’s biggest policy debates.

um … yeah … right …

My senators are Lieberman and Dodd. One’s on the right side. One’s on the wrong. I don’t think anything I send will change that. I still say if the house sticks to its guns we have nothing to worry about. The worry is that it won’t.

Jeebus, this Pope-a-palooza is killing me.

Some priest is on CNN fluffing Bush like he’s an alter boy.

-G

I will certainly do that, but it’ll be in EPU land much later this eve. I can almost guarantee from DiFi @ least, it’ll be a robofax, but even those are important since they have to log that you sent a fax on the subject.

Have to drive in to work now. Read you all later.

Yes, Bush and the Pope agree on human dignity…..You know like smearing faux menstruel blood on detainees…..leaving them in their own urine an feces….sodomizing detainees with glowsticks…

All about the dignity.

-G

If we can just get the two presidential candidates to step up and lead a bit on this, that puts all of their pledged supporters in play as votes against the Senate Intel bill as well. That’s quite a bit of flip in the mix…although I doubt that Obama could get Rockefeller’s vote to flip, to be honest.

“Another big push from the telecom lobby …”

Do the telecoms not ‘get’ it?

‘This’ is not about ‘business’, ‘this’ is about crimminal behavior.

“This’ is NOT a game.

Some of the telecoms are compromised, utterly.

Any further attempts to seek ‘immunity’ for themselves only digs them in deeper.

Their legal staffs MUST realize that their ONLY viable course is to STOP supporting illegality -

There must be a cost if the telecoms persist, a cost beyond what they are already, clearly, facing.

This further cost should include prison-time, not merely ‘fines’ whose cost may be ‘passed on’.

I like this one.

Mr. Bush was critical of Al Gore in the 2000 campaign for being part of “the administration that’s been in charge” while the “price of gasoline has gone steadily upward.” In December 1999, in the first Republican primary debate, Mr. Bush said President Clinton “must jawbone OPEC members to lower prices.”

What was oil then?

The average price of domestic crude oil at the wellhead was $24.50 per barrel in December 2000, 9 percent above the level of December 1999.

Oil now?

The price of New York oil struck a historic peak Wednesday of $114.50 dollars a barrel

Mission Accomplished

Right. Thanks. I learned the hard way, heh…

ekunin, I envy you Dodd. He, Whitehouse, and Feingold are my “adopted” Senators because mine are worthless. You have all my sympathy on HoJo Short Ride Lieberman. I’m gonna celebrate that ratf*ckers retirement, let me tell you.

Working to make my situation better (yeah, Larry LaRocco!), but until I do, can I share representation from one of yours?

Just getting started here — called McCaskill and Reid’s office — the staffer at Reid’s office seemed knowledgeable and open to the message.

I answered an online survey of MSNBC’s website this morning and blasted them about not covering Bush’s admission of approving torture amongst other crimes.

They do get it — but they also have a duty to minimize their costs on this because they are businesses and not the federal government. I can’t really blame them for trying to get immunity where they see an ability to push for it — in their shoes, I’d do the same to protect my fiscal interests. What I fault them for is blatant disregard of the legal requirements which they pushed aside to allow access without warrants in the first place.

They can make it up to me by releasing all the indemnification documents from the Bush Administration for starters. And any and all correspondence regarding the programs initiated since January of 2001 with regard to domestic surveillance taps on phone and internet access points. And any and all related matters. For starters…

I called Sununu’s office and they indicated that they had “had quite a few calls about this”.

Sununu is is a tough election here against DLCer Jeanne Shaheen so my vote, and many others, could go either way. Sununu is very good on womens issues and women’s issues, domestic violence issues and Shaheen is not so strong on either in that she is a typical, ” I want all sides of that issue”, DLC person.

January of 2000!

I just called Reid’s office, and will fax and email as well (as I’ve done multiple times already).

This is really in teh main all about covering the Bu’ush/Cheney et al asses. There are ample litigation escape routes for the telecoms already in place.

Thanks mucho — constituent calls to Reid are very much appreciated!

Yep — it’s just that Bush and Cheney keep blocking them to cover their own behinds. And the telecoms know it — it was a devil’s bargain to go along with this without the proper warrants in the first place, and their lawyers either knew that and ignored it — or vociferously objected and were overruled by the higher-ups. But either way, whatever pressure they are feeling was partly of their own making…and is all about saving some Bush/Cheney face.

I am routinely all over Reid, Ensign, and Porter on these issues. They know me well.

That’s one of the many reasons that I love you, man. *g*

I don’t think anything I send will change that.

I would invite you to revisit that opinion.

There are plenty of wingnuts in CT, who voted for JoLie. A lot of them are calling Dodd and JoLie asking for telecom immunity to help us fight the Islamofascists in Bush’s Global War in Error on Terror.

IMHO, the staff’s of both Senators needs to hear from you.

Dodd deserves all the support we can give him.

If Joe’s staff hears from people like you, who actually live IN CONNECTICUT, it gets back to the dirty, sanctamonius little prick him. The fact that you are a CT resident is huge.

I see your point and agree, but ‘cost’ goes well beyond the ‘bottom line’ and if the telecoms have arrived at this place by not assessing the true ‘cost’ of doing business in a democracy, then ‘minimizing’ cost must include that calculus.

Economic considerations must take a back seat to the larger implications.

As citizens of the nation, which the stockholders of the telecoms hopefully are, they must respect the laws of the nation above short-term
‘gain’, otherwise all that matters is money.

And, that idea, that the supreme right of money trumps all other considerations is central to the dilemma, if that is not too mild a term, we face.

I think everyone just assumed Bu’ush/Cheney’s grip on Yoonitary power was a long-term lock, and there was no appreciable risk of exposure. Hence, go along to get along.

One more Supreme Court nomination under Bu’ush, and they may have been right.

They didn’t count on all of us DFH’s standing up and saying “no.” For one thing. And that a lot of the libertarian conservatives and independents would do so as well.

Clearly, they didn’t read enough history…but that was pretty much a given, wasn’t it, considering their conduct in office?

Back at’cha. You and Jane and all your contributing peeps are the best! (Along with the many firepups who contribute such great insights every day)

I hope some go on recess , and get an ear full

Yes, well, one wishes that ethics and decency would make a comeback in some circles. But, unfortunately, I’m not exactly holding my breath on that as a prospect given the WH leadership in that area. SIGH

feinstein 202 phone is busy…but after a recording/hold–I got through.
thanks for this.

O/T FYI, John McBu’ush ad I just saw.

2008 thus far: 232,000 jobs lost.

(I just mine 13 months ago, my wife lost hers in October, so we’re not in those stats.)

(I lost mine 13 months ago, my wife lost hers in October, so we’re not in those stats.)

Dang, I miss edit. Haven’t had my coffee yet. Typo fest ensues without it.)

Is there any evidence so far that they’re wrong?

“…efforts to avoid accountability”???

What accountability?

That’s why we keep pushing back. Remember how we were all gonna be immediately dead in Terrah attacks if FISA expired? When Lil’ Bu’ush was petulantly pounding the dias scolding Congress?

Not to mention Congressional ‘leadership’ in certain places …

or with regard to certain items of ‘furniture’ …

That is a great point about releasing all the documents, Christy. Isn’t immunity usually conferred upon those who cooperate with investigations?

How about the Dems go on the TV circuit and hammer home the talking point “We will agree to telecom immunity if they release all memos, authorizations and any and all related discussions/documents to the illegal wiretap program…” then perhaps immunity can be justified.

Of course, when Bush, Cheney, Addington et al. object, they won’t be left with anything but the argument of their own self-interest. If immunity is conditioned to cooperation then the public interest is served, maybe some fines can be included as well to make it a bit more equitable. The only argument BushCo has for vetoing then is “But we need to protect OURSELVES from prosecution for these crimes!”

Ding, dig, ding. We have a winner.

Yep. Some things are utterly transparent upon the briefest reflection. This is all really Bu’ush/Cheney CYA.

But, since we’re all dead now, it doesn’t matter.

OK, I gotta run to Starbucks. 8:46 PDT and no jolt yet. Not good.

Well, this is just depressing — Pakistan is forcing thousands of Afghan refugees to return home. Nothing like even more border upheaval in an already volatile region, I always say…

So many people out of work! I can hardly wait until June when the new crop of graduates hits the job market. It seems if you are over fifty-something now, you can be in big trouble finding any type of meaningful employment. Just ask ex-AGAG…

Bingo! As BobbyG said, this is the winner!

So, perhaps we can induce the senators still siding w/telecoms and Repubs to go with this argument? If the staffers who answer the phones are at all willing to discuss the issue maybe we should suggest the cooperation first, immunity second “compromise.”

Late to the party (again) I emailed Senator Bob Casey Jr about voting to adopt H.R. 3773 when it comes before the full Senate.

Called Reid, Rockafeller and Obama. I’m pretty sure (someone correct me if I’m wrong) that the Senators from NJ will vote for the bill as passed by the house. If I’m wrong, I’ll make more calls.
Cynic

OT,
Dodd on Banking crises in school loan financing.

http://banking.senate.gov/publ…..972599a048

Bibi Netanyahu thinks that 9/11 was a good thing for Israel.

Great friend that he is.

-G

o/t

2nd Mistrial declared in Miami terra terra terra case jury deadlocked after 13 days of delib.

Netanyahu link at Haaretz.

-G

What is this nation coming to when a jury can’t convict a pack of sad sack unemployed losers who’s primary terrorist activities centered on getting nice sneakers?

-G

I called Stabenow. I said that it was time for senators to stop enabling the Bush administration, that I knew she voted to approve retroactive immunity last time and I hoped she had changed her mind. Phone answerer wasn’t sure of her position but said she would get my comments and send a letter to explain. We’ll see…

How many ‘chances’ does the Prosecution get to convict?

Seems like there might be a bit of a ‘push-back’ regarding, ‘terra, terra, terra, all the time, terra, the unending terra of terra…

Much appreciated, katie! Thanks for the heads up…

If it’s a hung jury, then it’s not considered a chance, thus they can re-try the case. If the jury finds “not guilty” then that’s it. Depends on whether or not a verdict is reached — or whether there is no verdict in the case, as when there is a hung jury.

who sits on the fisa court anyway?

For some reason – I think because it directs you to another blog – I can’t post on the lead thread, so I’ll ask here:

What is the meaning of that posting? Am I missing something? Why would anyone believe that is Obama speaking anyway? It clearly is not. If nothing else, the “I didn’t tell my daughter whom to marry…” should give it away.

(Scratching head)

it appears to be a joke. Look at the end of the post and you’ll see a link to an old Frank Sinatra Playboy interview.

I agree that it seems out of place on FDL …

I saw the link and the Sinatra interview originally and just don’t get it.

Robert Greenwald has a great new video he just posted on the NSA’s secret torture meetings. A must see and there’s a petition to sign also.

Sorry about the link — I’m having problems with hyperlinks today, but the URL is

http://condimustgo.com/

Don’t you mean “Soft on Terra”?
snark

It’s satire — and it’s what TBogg does best. Pointing out the idiocy in the sort of reportage that’s been done lately on the “bitter” crap, and how absurd some of it as been…especially in light of where we’ve all been, and where we ought to be going.

But you can ask TBogg about it — he’s great. And I’m sure he’d be happy to explain what he was thinking when he put the piece together.

Sorry to be OT, but re the previous post ~

I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it, I would like to see Senator Whitehouse in the the position of AG in the next administration. And though I’m against government expansion in general, I would like to see AG Whitehouse create and oversee a whole new department dedicated to examination and investigation of the Bush Administration and indicting, prosecuting and imprisoning criminals irregardless of who they may be.

And tear down that f*#/Xing LIBRARY!

Now I gotta make some phone calls. AGAIN!

Thanks for the link…great video! Just signed!

It’s fine with me, but I’m not sure it will do either of us any good.

I’m not sure I agree with you. I think representative democracy’s had it. It’s time for direct electronic democracy though I haven’t the vaguest idea of how that might work. Since all we have is representative democracy at this juncture, I’ll call Dodd and the bozo for what it is worth.

So, technically these ‘perpetrators’ could be ‘hung’ in limbo for …um
for a long time, whilst the sentiments of their peers sort themselves out?

Of course, I have no idea what caused the jury deadlocks and am engaged in wild speculation.

But I wonder …

I do that a lot.

Appreciate your responses, Christy. Always an education of the first order.

Technically, yes, if it was another hung jury. But there comes a time when there is a question of a waste of public resources — because it costs a lot of money to put on a trial — in prosecutorial and investigative manpower, in time away from other caseloads, in time and money from the judge and his staff and that of the courthouse, etc., etc. And, at some point, you have to weigh the odds of getting a conviction and the real need for it against those costs and the very real possibility that your case is not so strong as you once may have thought it might be.

Which, usually results in a re-trial not happening when the costs outweigh the societal benefit on a new trial. But that takes into account that the prosecutor’s office with which you are dealing is acting in a rational manner. Since this is a “terrorism” case, and a USAtty working for the Bush Administration? Your guess is as good as mine on what the orders from the top will be…

Thanks Christy, though I sincerely doubt my guess would be as ‘good’ as yours.

It really is all about our ‘Emperor’ and his sartorial elegance, of course.

Heh, heh, heh …

Christy,
Thanks again for keeping the attention on this issue! I’ve already signed on, but haven’t yet written about this to my email lists. Thanks for the poke.

Bob in HI

Way EPU’d but possibly helpful. Our computer-geek son just sent the following to us, so I’ll just pass it along in case anyone can use it.

Thought you might find this article interesting, FBI asking getting info legally, then re-asking for the same info illegally (via NSL) then going through proper channels again, all to show to Congress how unacceptable delays without NSLs are.

FBI Caused Delay in Terror Case Ahead of Senate Testimony

http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok…..or-ci.html

Adie,
emptywheel was all over that yesterday morning

“…but haven’t yet written about this to my email lists.”

Now I have. Your word to the computers of 100 Hawaii progressives…

Bob in HI

Is there a venue in the near future, like a debate, where the question could be put to Clinton and Obama about what their views on FISA are, telecom immunity in particular, and whether they support the view of the current Executive that the Executive needs broad powers beyond what they might already have to conduct their War on Terror? And whether they support the current House Bill or the Senate version or FISA without amendment?

Thanks dakine01. Schedule doesn’t permit me to keep close enuf track of goings on at the Lake. Glad to hear Marcy’s got hold of it. ;->

There is a debate this evening — but the moderator would have to ask the question. Since the media has been loathe to cover the issue much, I’m not holding my breath it will get asked. But if any readers live in PA, IN or NC, and are participating in any town hall meetings where questions can be asked — and you get in a question about FISA that gets answered by either candidate, PLEASE let me know. Thanks!