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	<title>Comments on: Late Late Nite FDL:  Hurry Up And Wait</title>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/late-late-nite-fdl-hurry-up-and-wait/#comment-1391433</link>
		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stanford was using them as gate ways between networks but your time frame is late that was in 83 or 84… Stanford was one of my external accounts… I put in some of their early networks and was doing projects @ stanford for Dr George Pake founder of Xerox PARC… twas an interesting time… good night Wigwam will talk more with you on this later… fun remembering all this stuff :&gt;)..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stanford was using them as gate ways between networks but your time frame is late that was in 83 or 84… Stanford was one of my external accounts… I put in some of their early networks and was doing projects @ stanford for Dr George Pake founder of Xerox PARC… twas an interesting time… good night Wigwam will talk more with you on this later… fun remembering all this stuff :&gt;)..</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/late-late-nite-fdl-hurry-up-and-wait/#comment-1391432</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alas, the polls: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/16/11233/8094/730/496593&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....730/496593&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, the polls: <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/16/11233/8094/730/496593" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/&#8230;..730/496593</a></p>
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		<title>By: newspaperbrat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/late-late-nite-fdl-hurry-up-and-wait/#comment-1391431</link>
		<dc:creator>newspaperbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sweet dreams sleepy ones. Am outta here as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Made the mistake of checking out the NYT and the snotty Maureen Dowd who has a fresh bitchy whine casting Obama as an insufferable elitest and a cheap shot on Michelle’s Colbert appearance. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(poof)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet dreams sleepy ones. Am outta here as well.</p>
<p>Made the mistake of checking out the NYT and the snotty Maureen Dowd who has a fresh bitchy whine casting Obama as an insufferable elitest and a cheap shot on Michelle’s Colbert appearance. </p>
<p>(poof)</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/late-late-nite-fdl-hurry-up-and-wait/#comment-1391428</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No.  I recall the Interlisp machines (late 80s IIRC).  But I never got my hands on one.  My goal was alway to minimize costs.  Here’s another classic story.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the very early 80s, I read about this Stanford grad student, Andy Bechtolsheim, who had as his thesis project designed a three board set that could be plugged into a VME bus to constitute a diskless workstation:  a processor board with virtual memory, and ether net board, and a graphics board.  And he had licensed three or four companies to build such boards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, that was exactly what I wanted — at a minimum, I could use them as low cost terminals.  So I called him and asked which company was doing the most competent job of making those boards.  He said he wasn’t happy with any of them, and to call back in a month, which I did.  This time he said the same thing, but that he was working on something of his own.  He asked me to call back in a month.  I did so, and the voice on the other end of the phone said: “Sun Microsystems, Vinod Khosla speaking.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For those who don’t know:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;– Andy was the hardware guy among the founders of Sun.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;– Vinod was the financial guy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;– Bill Joy was the software guru.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;– I think there was a fourth guy, but my memory fails.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  I recall the Interlisp machines (late 80s IIRC).  But I never got my hands on one.  My goal was alway to minimize costs.  Here’s another classic story.  </p>
<p>In the very early 80s, I read about this Stanford grad student, Andy Bechtolsheim, who had as his thesis project designed a three board set that could be plugged into a VME bus to constitute a diskless workstation:  a processor board with virtual memory, and ether net board, and a graphics board.  And he had licensed three or four companies to build such boards.</p>
<p>Well, that was exactly what I wanted — at a minimum, I could use them as low cost terminals.  So I called him and asked which company was doing the most competent job of making those boards.  He said he wasn’t happy with any of them, and to call back in a month, which I did.  This time he said the same thing, but that he was working on something of his own.  He asked me to call back in a month.  I did so, and the voice on the other end of the phone said: “Sun Microsystems, Vinod Khosla speaking.”</p>
<p>For those who don’t know:</p>
<p>– Andy was the hardware guy among the founders of Sun.</p>
<p>– Vinod was the financial guy.</p>
<p>– Bill Joy was the software guru.</p>
<p>– I think there was a fourth guy, but my memory fails.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/late-late-nite-fdl-hurry-up-and-wait/#comment-1391427</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;nite nahant&lt;br /&gt;
nite suzanne&lt;br /&gt;
bailing out myself&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nite nahant<br />
nite suzanne<br />
bailing out myself</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ok pups, about time for me to head out.  thanks for hanging with me tonight.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok pups, about time for me to head out.  thanks for hanging with me tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On that last note time for bed… &lt;a href=&quot;http://digg.com/politics/It_s_Official_Bush_Is_The_Most_Hated_President_In_History&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BT’s post&lt;/a&gt; is at 971 sure to hit 1,000 before sunrise… good night firepups and thanks a great evening at the lake as usual!!!! :&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On that last note time for bed… <a href="http://digg.com/politics/It_s_Official_Bush_Is_The_Most_Hated_President_In_History" rel="nofollow">BT’s post</a> is at 971 sure to hit 1,000 before sunrise… good night firepups and thanks a great evening at the lake as usual!!!! :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/late-late-nite-fdl-hurry-up-and-wait/#comment-1391424</link>
		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Na newton … but when people start talking about all this computer stuff they just don’t know where most modern interfaces come from…. I was lucky to be able to do my little part in making some of it happening…. mostly in support roles… but that did give me a lot of incite  in what we are using today and I use those concepts today in helping me solve my clients computing issues…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Na newton … but when people start talking about all this computer stuff they just don’t know where most modern interfaces come from…. I was lucky to be able to do my little part in making some of it happening…. mostly in support roles… but that did give me a lot of incite  in what we are using today and I use those concepts today in helping me solve my clients computing issues…</p>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did you use Interlisp D… now that was another great programing interface… was also good for maintaining servers… programmers could run a program and watch it run in a separate window as the code executed…. way cool… the ones I supported loved it… but it to died…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you use Interlisp D… now that was another great programing interface… was also good for maintaining servers… programmers could run a program and watch it run in a separate window as the code executed…. way cool… the ones I supported loved it… but it to died…</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/late-late-nite-fdl-hurry-up-and-wait/#comment-1391422</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks wigwam.&lt;br /&gt;
Another endless ration of grief from nahant comin’ my way! :-)&lt;br /&gt;
Great story.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks wigwam.<br />
Another endless ration of grief from nahant comin’ my way! :-)<br />
Great story.</p>
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