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		<title>By: ekunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1390683</link>
		<dc:creator>ekunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What, in your opinion, makes a person a pathological liar? You concede Hillary was blowing BS; that she “exaggerated” (some exaggeration). I believe, as you seem to, she knew the truth and ignored it. You parse too finely when you say you didn’t say she “misremembered”. I gave her the benefit of the doubt by putting the best face on it. You say she didn’t misremember which means you see her as lying. I don’t think making her experience more colorful is sufficient excuse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is true Obama misrepresents. I chalk it up to inexperience. It would have been better had he not denied he never heard Wright inveigh against whites. As soon as it became apparent no one believed him, he changed his story. I think living in a foreign country gives people insights into other cultures.  I also think (hope) Obama is more liberal than he admits. Perhaps in a sense that’s lying although I put it in the white lie category. Hillary’s lie goes to her judgment. It’s a lie without reasonable excuse. Obame instinctively went for damage control. It was wrong, but it wasn’t crazy. Hillary’s lie was crazy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, in your opinion, makes a person a pathological liar? You concede Hillary was blowing BS; that she “exaggerated” (some exaggeration). I believe, as you seem to, she knew the truth and ignored it. You parse too finely when you say you didn’t say she “misremembered”. I gave her the benefit of the doubt by putting the best face on it. You say she didn’t misremember which means you see her as lying. I don’t think making her experience more colorful is sufficient excuse.</p>
<p>It is true Obama misrepresents. I chalk it up to inexperience. It would have been better had he not denied he never heard Wright inveigh against whites. As soon as it became apparent no one believed him, he changed his story. I think living in a foreign country gives people insights into other cultures.  I also think (hope) Obama is more liberal than he admits. Perhaps in a sense that’s lying although I put it in the white lie category. Hillary’s lie goes to her judgment. It’s a lie without reasonable excuse. Obame instinctively went for damage control. It was wrong, but it wasn’t crazy. Hillary’s lie was crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Juno</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1390105</link>
		<dc:creator>Juno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Um, yes I did explain it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ll do so again:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She included McCain’s “lifelong experience” alongside hers and alongside Obama’s lack thereof, according to her, to illustrate that she will be better able to challenge McCain in the General.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Okay?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I mentioned the smug and looking-down-the-nose bit in context to the article, which is about Obama being elitist, which I think he is, I do thin he’s smug, that is a trait I do not care for but it doesn’t mean I  “Hate” Obama. I do not hate Obama; I do not KNOW Obama.  I also distinctly said that being smug is NOT evidence of not being fit for the presidency.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You do seem to interpret things as you want them to be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, yes I did explain it.</p>
<p>I’ll do so again:</p>
<p>She included McCain’s “lifelong experience” alongside hers and alongside Obama’s lack thereof, according to her, to illustrate that she will be better able to challenge McCain in the General.</p>
<p>Okay?</p>
<p>And I mentioned the smug and looking-down-the-nose bit in context to the article, which is about Obama being elitist, which I think he is, I do thin he’s smug, that is a trait I do not care for but it doesn’t mean I  “Hate” Obama. I do not hate Obama; I do not KNOW Obama.  I also distinctly said that being smug is NOT evidence of not being fit for the presidency.</p>
<p>You do seem to interpret things as you want them to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Juno</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1390097</link>
		<dc:creator>Juno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In case you check back, I have never said I think Clinton misremembered. I’ve said in fact that I think she at least exaggerated and at most made it up to add color to her experiences.  This does not make a person a pathological liar, much as Obamans would like to paint her as being even as they whine and gnash teeth at Obama ever being taken out of context or called on any of his BS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think Obama has made up the whole hope and inspiration stuff to use as a political tool and in lieu of any real experience too.  I don’t think he’s pathological. I think pols make crap up a lot.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not bothered by it at all, just as I’m not bothered by Obama saying his having lived in foreign countries as a child makes him more knowlegdeable about other cultures and foreign affairs.  It doesn’t. That was a lie and an absurd one, but I saw it for what it was.  No biggie.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you check back, I have never said I think Clinton misremembered. I’ve said in fact that I think she at least exaggerated and at most made it up to add color to her experiences.  This does not make a person a pathological liar, much as Obamans would like to paint her as being even as they whine and gnash teeth at Obama ever being taken out of context or called on any of his BS.</p>
<p>I think Obama has made up the whole hope and inspiration stuff to use as a political tool and in lieu of any real experience too.  I don’t think he’s pathological. I think pols make crap up a lot.  </p>
<p>I’m not bothered by it at all, just as I’m not bothered by Obama saying his having lived in foreign countries as a child makes him more knowlegdeable about other cultures and foreign affairs.  It doesn’t. That was a lie and an absurd one, but I saw it for what it was.  No biggie.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1390013</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Events are proving Obama correct in having integrated that “elitist” Faulkner into his speeches: “The past isn’t dead.  It isn’t even past.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Confederate flag does fly atop the South Carolina capital’s dome and CongressCritters publicly invoke the language of racism and slavery.  “That ‘boy’ is uppity.  Hrmph.”  If Trent Lott had admitted his feelings about segregation only a few years later, he’d have been promoted, not stripped of his Senate leadership position.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rove’s Republican Party proudly resurrects that language, as well as the routine, brutal epithets of McCarthyism, slyly couched as “questions” about whether Obama is a “Marxist” rather than openly accusing him of being a communist when he advocates mildly populist economic policies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find their tone reminiscent of the aging landowner in the original &lt;em&gt;In the Heat of the Night&lt;/em&gt;.  Dumbfounded after a Northern black policeman he slapped was so uppity that he slapped back, and recoiling when the sheriff, standing nearby, admits he doesn’t know what he’s going to do about it, the landowner laments, “There was a time when I could have had you shot.”  When that was filmed, a federal anti-lynching statute was a controversial “invasion” of states’ rights.  Seditiously, the filmmakers left the landowner powerless, crying in his orchids.  Today’s ReichWing wants to rewrite that script with a new sheriff.  What are we gonna do about it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Events are proving Obama correct in having integrated that “elitist” Faulkner into his speeches: “The past isn’t dead.  It isn’t even past.” </p>
<p>The Confederate flag does fly atop the South Carolina capital’s dome and CongressCritters publicly invoke the language of racism and slavery.  “That ‘boy’ is uppity.  Hrmph.”  If Trent Lott had admitted his feelings about segregation only a few years later, he’d have been promoted, not stripped of his Senate leadership position.  </p>
<p>Rove’s Republican Party proudly resurrects that language, as well as the routine, brutal epithets of McCarthyism, slyly couched as “questions” about whether Obama is a “Marxist” rather than openly accusing him of being a communist when he advocates mildly populist economic policies.</p>
<p>I find their tone reminiscent of the aging landowner in the original <em>In the Heat of the Night</em>.  Dumbfounded after a Northern black policeman he slapped was so uppity that he slapped back, and recoiling when the sheriff, standing nearby, admits he doesn’t know what he’s going to do about it, the landowner laments, “There was a time when I could have had you shot.”  When that was filmed, a federal anti-lynching statute was a controversial “invasion” of states’ rights.  Seditiously, the filmmakers left the landowner powerless, crying in his orchids.  Today’s ReichWing wants to rewrite that script with a new sheriff.  What are we gonna do about it?</p>
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		<title>By: JimTheCynic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1389994</link>
		<dc:creator>JimTheCynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do we really want a president who drags a teleprompter around with him like it’s a dialysis machine? I don’t. McCain will never get my vote…evah!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you comparing McCain to someone else who has to carry around a dialysis machine???  Do you really think McCain is a mastermind terrorist who wants to attack America and bring down the modern world???  Are you saying that McCain is just like Osama bin Laden?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Interesting juxtiposition.    They’re both nut-jobs…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do we really want a president who drags a teleprompter around with him like it’s a dialysis machine? I don’t. McCain will never get my vote…evah!</p>
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<p>Are you comparing McCain to someone else who has to carry around a dialysis machine???  Do you really think McCain is a mastermind terrorist who wants to attack America and bring down the modern world???  Are you saying that McCain is just like Osama bin Laden?</p>
<p>Interesting juxtiposition.    They’re both nut-jobs…</p>
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		<title>By: MikeMc</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1389875</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;George Will!!  I’m being lectured about elitism by a guy wearing a bow-tie!  George Will is not the kind of guy I want to have a beer with.  He is, however, the kind of guy I’d like to beat-up after I’ve had said beer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Will!!  I’m being lectured about elitism by a guy wearing a bow-tie!  George Will is not the kind of guy I want to have a beer with.  He is, however, the kind of guy I’d like to beat-up after I’ve had said beer.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1389838</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: morleytrunk</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1389806</link>
		<dc:creator>morleytrunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The View just had a segment on the Dog Whistle event of this past weekend. Not that I’m just sitting here on the couch doing nothing, mind you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I agree with you ekunin, a friend of mine once said that wanting to be President of the United States should automatically preclude you from the running because you are obviously insane.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The View just had a segment on the Dog Whistle event of this past weekend. Not that I’m just sitting here on the couch doing nothing, mind you.</p>
<p>And I agree with you ekunin, a friend of mine once said that wanting to be President of the United States should automatically preclude you from the running because you are obviously insane.</p>
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		<title>By: ekunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1389768</link>
		<dc:creator>ekunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I initially was for Edwards mostly because I feared this country would not elect a black man. I still fear it although he may pull it off because things get so bad there’s no alternative just like the people of Bridgeport, CT elected a socialist roofer mayor in the early thirties. It was either that or bankruptcy. With Edwards gone there was no place for me to go but Obama. I think Hillary is a pathological liar. I have no other explanation for her dodging bullets story. You think she misremembered. I think she made it up and knew she was making it up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said, there is something pathological about anyone runnning for president. Obama in kindergarten wrote that he wanted to be president, something I can identify with since I wanted to be president when I was in kindergarten. It had to do with being unable to socialize and deciding to show everybody. Insecurity and inferiority breeds a grandiosity so great being on the stump 24/7 is a piece of cake. We probably would be better off chosing presidents by lottery, get someone who doesn’t want to be president, but that’s not in the cards.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I initially was for Edwards mostly because I feared this country would not elect a black man. I still fear it although he may pull it off because things get so bad there’s no alternative just like the people of Bridgeport, CT elected a socialist roofer mayor in the early thirties. It was either that or bankruptcy. With Edwards gone there was no place for me to go but Obama. I think Hillary is a pathological liar. I have no other explanation for her dodging bullets story. You think she misremembered. I think she made it up and knew she was making it up.</p>
<p>That said, there is something pathological about anyone runnning for president. Obama in kindergarten wrote that he wanted to be president, something I can identify with since I wanted to be president when I was in kindergarten. It had to do with being unable to socialize and deciding to show everybody. Insecurity and inferiority breeds a grandiosity so great being on the stump 24/7 is a piece of cake. We probably would be better off chosing presidents by lottery, get someone who doesn’t want to be president, but that’s not in the cards.</p>
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		<title>By: merkwurdiglieber</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/fanfare-for-the-common-wanker/#comment-1389704</link>
		<dc:creator>merkwurdiglieber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tired personality script… last week, same line, CNN for 4 days has&lt;br /&gt;
  beaten this drum. The point of the post is the irrelevance of this line&lt;br /&gt;
  in the light of other larger matters. Someone will finally win the&lt;br /&gt;
  personality contest, then the work begins… tired personality script.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tired personality script… last week, same line, CNN for 4 days has<br />
  beaten this drum. The point of the post is the irrelevance of this line<br />
  in the light of other larger matters. Someone will finally win the<br />
  personality contest, then the work begins… tired personality script.</p>
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