Comments on: Eliminationism At The New York Times http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:54:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Synoia http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390867 Synoia Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:11:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390867 <p>Since Niall is Scottish, maybe someone could explain to him that the British considered William Wallace aka Braveheart, a terrorist. That’s why they hung, drawn, and quartered him. How did that work out?</p> <p>Pretty well. Until Elizabeth, 300 years and at least two civil wars later.</p> Since Niall is Scottish, maybe someone could explain to him that the British considered William Wallace aka Braveheart, a terrorist. That’s why they hung, drawn, and quartered him. How did that work out?

Pretty well. Until Elizabeth, 300 years and at least two civil wars later.

]]> By: Synoia http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390860 Synoia Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:08:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390860 <p>Q: What is “premptive detention of suspected terrorists”?</p> <p>A: West Bank, Gaza, and Southern Lebanon. How are they working out?</p> Q: What is “premptive detention of suspected terrorists”?

A: West Bank, Gaza, and Southern Lebanon. How are they working out?

]]> By: Synoia http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390852 Synoia Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:04:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390852 <p>“Middle Eastern terrorists, of course, are very much a real threat”</p> <p>Yes, spawned by a festering cancer at the center of the Middle Eastern discontent. What was it Jimmy Carter asserted? Something about an “Apartheid State”, oppressing its disenfranchised, dispossessed and disgruntled citizens…Nothing like 3 generations in a Ghetto, Concentration Camp, or Bantustan to focus ones feelings…</p> <p>Something come to mind…treating symptoms, not the cause?</p> “Middle Eastern terrorists, of course, are very much a real threat”

Yes, spawned by a festering cancer at the center of the Middle Eastern discontent. What was it Jimmy Carter asserted? Something about an “Apartheid State”, oppressing its disenfranchised, dispossessed and disgruntled citizens…Nothing like 3 generations in a Ghetto, Concentration Camp, or Bantustan to focus ones feelings…

Something come to mind…treating symptoms, not the cause?

]]> By: brendanx http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390212 brendanx Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:52:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390212 <p>David Neiwart:</p> <p>You just don’t understand “the Arab mind”! Especially those Iranians.</p> <p>Thank you for pointing out that this is a race war, too.</p> David Neiwart:

You just don’t understand “the Arab mind”! Especially those Iranians.

Thank you for pointing out that this is a race war, too.

]]> By: JEP07 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390189 JEP07 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:37:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390189 <p>Just gave myself a thought… every time some wingnut mentions something like “Osama Obama”, one of us should mention “John McVeigh”.</p> Just gave myself a thought… every time some wingnut mentions something like “Osama Obama”, one of us should mention “John McVeigh”.

]]> By: JEP07 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390183 JEP07 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:35:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390183 <p>“The terrorists are at once parasitical on, and at the same time hostile toward, the globalized economy,”</p> <p>McVeigh?</p> “The terrorists are at once parasitical on, and at the same time hostile toward, the globalized economy,”

McVeigh?

]]> By: Hugh http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390114 Hugh Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:05:58 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390114 <blockquote><p>The association/similarity between terrorist and diseases was the basic thesis of William McNeill’s book, _Plagues & Peoples_: He compared plague bacteria (microparasites) to predatory brigands and mercenary armies (macroparasites). The bending of this concept to terrorism here is not that much of a leap, and the outrage here may be misplaced.A slight appropriation of another historian’s idea may have been misconstrued as an homage to the Nazi state.</p></blockquote> <p>It’s a bad grossly exaggerated analogy no matter how it is parsed or attributed.</p>

The association/similarity between terrorist and diseases was the basic thesis of William McNeill’s book, _Plagues & Peoples_: He compared plague bacteria (microparasites) to predatory brigands and mercenary armies (macroparasites). The bending of this concept to terrorism here is not that much of a leap, and the outrage here may be misplaced.A slight appropriation of another historian’s idea may have been misconstrued as an homage to the Nazi state.

It’s a bad grossly exaggerated analogy no matter how it is parsed or attributed.

]]> By: oldradus http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390098 oldradus Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:54:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390098 <p>The association/similarity between terrorist and diseases was the basic thesis of William McNeill’s book, _Plagues & Peoples_: He compared plague bacteria (microparasites) to predatory brigands and mercenary armies (macroparasites). The bending of this concept to terrorism here is not that much of a leap, and the outrage here may be misplaced.A slight appropriation of another historian’s idea may have been misconstrued as an homage to the Nazi state.</p> The association/similarity between terrorist and diseases was the basic thesis of William McNeill’s book, _Plagues & Peoples_: He compared plague bacteria (microparasites) to predatory brigands and mercenary armies (macroparasites). The bending of this concept to terrorism here is not that much of a leap, and the outrage here may be misplaced.A slight appropriation of another historian’s idea may have been misconstrued as an homage to the Nazi state.

]]> By: earlofhuntingdon http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390082 earlofhuntingdon Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:47:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390082 <p>The metaphors flip flop which side supports or attacks McSame, but I think the point is clear.</p> The metaphors flip flop which side supports or attacks McSame, but I think the point is clear.

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390080 SouthernDragon Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:45:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/eliminationism-at-the-new-york-times/#comment-1390080 <p>Great play and I would recommend it to everyone here.</p> Great play and I would recommend it to everyone here.

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