Chris Matthews talking about McCain this a.m., but then Weekend Today starts right in with the Obama “bitter” story….Russet concern trolling over the parsing…

Mention of Bush admitting to knowing about his senior counsel micromanaging torture to be discussed on MTP? Don’t hold your breath.

It’s all about the horserace.

Good Morning Prairie,

You can see I had Marion on my mind this morning.

MTP cover torture? aHAHAHA!
Notice he stays in his comfort zone with his Xperts, Carville-Matalin, Shrum and Murphy. Dependable, reliable, expected.
Love his promo:

“With less than 10 days to the Pennsylvania primary, we will devote the full hour to insights and analysis on Decision 2008 with four of the sharpest minds in politics“

my bold

So?

Morning firepups and Elliot as well as Prairie Sunshine

Good Morning Jim,

I’m bitter, are you?

mmmmm… pancakes….

does that mean he’s saying he thinks they are a bunch of pinheads?
Morning all. It’s chilly and rainy in Upstate New York this morning. We are paying for our nice sunny warm day yesterday.

at least he called them among the best known names in consulting

Wonder if they’ll bring up the “tell me something I don’t know” moment on Matthews Show when one of his panelists told him there are efforts to make Hillary’s next job Governor of New York.

Going to go get some bitter orange juice to go with my morning microwave omelet now. coffee still perking…

Mornin’ risin’ pups

Good morning to all.

Yummy pancakes, my favorite breakfast food.

does that mean he’s saying he thinks they are a bunch of pinheads?

I think so. lol!!

Yep..me too..I’m thinking nasty thoughts about the blueberries I’ve got in the freezer from last summer.

Wow, good job on holding onto the blueberries, I would’ve had them devoured by now. The place I normally go to for breakfast always has a matching butter (for example vanilla walnut) for the pancakes special.

…Weekend Today starts right in with the Obama “bitter” story….Russet concern trolling over the parsing…

Bitter Voters For Obama

NBC’s Meet The Press: James Carville (D), Mary Matalin (R), Mike Murphy (R), Bob Shrum (D). “With less than 10 days to the Pennsylvania primary, we will devote the full hour to insights and analysis on Decision 2008 with four of the sharpest minds in politics”

Isn’t that entire sentence an oxymoron?

Or just one referring to a bunch of morons? - more coffee please….

Wonder if they’ll bring up the “tell me something I don’t know” moment on Matthews Show when one of his panelists told him there are efforts to make Hillary’s next job Governor of New York.

I missed that one. Part of this effort to get her to drop out? I live in PA and I’d like to vote on the 22nd. Let we-the-voters decide who the candidate is.

I am bitter? Torture at highest levels? Ho Hum by MSM?

Looking forward to seeing President Carter on ABC. He is the jewel in this mornings lineup. Would be nice if he endorses Obama and closes the door on all this “bitter” Bullsh%t.

Gonna take a pass on MTP for probably the first time in over 20 years. Can’t stomach C&M anymore. They are phonies.

Gonna take a pass on MTP for probably the first time in over 20 years. Can’t stomach C&M anymore. They are phonies.

Fucking Timmeh - subjecting the entire country to utterly uncalled-for cruel and unusual punishment early on a Sunday morning.

What have I ever done to him?

The place I normally go to for breakfast always has a matching butter (for example vanilla walnut) for the pancakes special.

What a yummy joint, MM. I’ve got me a Burger King around the corner, they don’t do it your way.

Happy moanin’…will the corporate media pressure any Republican to admit that ’sustainable peace’ is unsustainable without 160,000 or more US ground troops risking their lives and limbs forever and at a cost of trillions of US dollars? Who in the TeeVee media will ask if ’sustainable peace’ is only for Chevron to recover Chevron’s oil.

What a yummy joint, MM. I’ve got me a Burger King around the corner, they don’t do it your way.

It is, however I must go to Friendly’s this am, where the pancakes are just the average sort. I’m in search of the illusive glass ketchup bottle for a prop. The diners around here only have the plastic kind, as well as supermarkets.

Aren’t Timmeh’s “four sharpest minds in politics” all currently unemployed?

Looking forward to seeing President Carter on ABC. He is the jewel in this mornings lineup.

You’re right, Jimmy Carter is a jewel. He’s in Katmandu to oversee Nepal’s election. I know little about the changes in Nepal but the win by the Maoists was unexpected.

The complete results of the elections might come only after 10 to 12 days. But the trends suggest that though the other major political parties - the Nepali Congress and the Communist Party of Nepal-Unified Marxist-Leninist - might win some more seats, both could end up playing the role of junior partners to the Maoists.
from Thaindian News

The Obama “bitter” narrative only demonstrates he is in touch with what is going on. This anti Obama driven hoopla over his remarks is absurd and Hillary is having a hell of a time blowing it out of proportion earger to distract from her interminable list of lies and shortcomings. She, who cannot tell a straight truth, embellisher par excellence. Trotting right behind her disingenuous disbarred impeached husband whose own presidential legacy is on the line if Obama should win and make his 8 years in the presidency sort of obsolete. And I say this as someone whose family represents 16 votes for the couple along the years. I am ashamed to be Hillary’s constituent who twice voted for her- considering the manner in which she is conducting her campaign. An absolute disgrace.
As far as the Sunday talking heads go, on Meet the Press, the same clowns, over and over. I am sick and tired of the Carville & Matalin show. They are so passe, they’ve become an anachronism. Mr. Russert, retire them already!

that was the fate of the peaches we froze, unfortunately. Last summer, we made it our business to pick and freeze peaches, blueberries and raspberries. We try to make the treats last…

Aren’t Timmeh’s “four sharpest minds in politics” all currently unemployed?

Hey hi jayt! They should be. And if we keep at it, they will be. :)

He really does maintain his comfort zone. Only the compliant need appear.

hiya Elliott.

Did ya see that Jeff Lomonaco finally got round to apologizing to you at the bottom of the book thread yesterday?

Mornin’, Sunshine and Elliot and . . . well, everyone, gosh darn it. The sun is finally shining in MN and temp moving into the 60s at long last. And I feel bitter better already. No, wait. My candidate of choice asked for orange juice, you say? While the woman who has just gotten in touch with her inner huntress drinks bourbon with the guys and reminisces about her gun days? I am breathlessly awaiting the Hardball analysis of that one!

The way Russet was hyping MTP on Weekend Today was all process and parsing…look for more of the same with the best knowns.

Y’know, this kind of micropunditing is kinda like BushCo micromanaging torture. And we’ve all seen those pictures of Matalin hovering in the background of those top WH meetings. And here she is on MTP…..

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…….

Methinks I’ll reread the full text of Moyers’ speech and remind myself [and urge that it be required reading for every journalist and prejournalist and “journalist” in the country] that once there was a true Meet the Press and a real Fourth Estate.

The aspect of Obama’s remark that is damaging to his campaign isn’t the “bitter” part, it is the suggestion that as a result of this bitterness small town folks cling to guns or God.

public service announcement for those of us without HBO:

Did ya know that Real Time with Bill Maher is normally available in full, in five or six installments, on YouTube the next day?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IhdMkM37k

(my favorite segment from this week’s, wherein Dana Priest and Richard Clarke have a thing or two to say about CondiCondiCondi)…

yes thank you, jayt, a simple misunderstanding.

I thought the introduction was thorough and honest. And it was a great discussion. I still have a lot of questions but it was nice to be able to speak with the author. I love Book Salons, but don’t often pipe up.

This afternoon’s should be interesting, too:
Party Crashing: How the Hip-Hop Generation Declared Political Independence

I can say, with some quite considerable experience in small towns, that it has always been so, whether as a result of “bitterness” or not…

Later, Maher went into a screed about the girl getting beaten into unconsciousness by 8 other girls for play on youtube and said she probably brought it on herself….

We turned it off.

The bully culture pervades America from the WH on down and Maher is okay with that?

That is exactly why that aspect of the remark is damaging.

yeah, his own audience was booing him on that one.

otoh, a man with such strong opinions is bound, by the law of averages, to come up bone-headed occasionally. I forgive him, though he was egregiously wrong on that isssue.

The sun is finally shining in MN and temp moving into the 60s at long last.

Glad it’s warming up there!
This week Mr. Cardinal set up his property lines in the back yard. Spring is just starting to move from yellow to pink here. The Magnolias around the neighborhood are blooming and I’ve seen a couple weeping cherries, too.

imo Maher has some “issues” with women.

Magnolias! Ah, crikey. Here, we celebrate the emergence of winter-browned grass. *g*

Frank Rich offers food for thought this morning on the “look away” attitude these days:

but a leading indicator of where our entire culture is right now. It’s not just torture we want to avoid. Most Americans don’t want to hear, see or feel anything about Iraq, whether they support the war or oppose it. They want to look away, period, and have been doing so for some time.

‘xactly, Elliott. Misogynist of the first order.

That is exactly why that aspect of the remark is damaging.

Big-city guy goes out into the countryside - culture shock.

OK

Fox News Sunday
Bitter Bitter Bitter Bitter Bitter Bitter Bitter Bitter Bitter.

as one of my favorite people would say “in the scheme of things …”

This morning’s excuse for a newspaper has a cover story, complete with nearly half-page photo, about physical fitness. And wee stories about our run-amok governor’s acid-ink veto pen AND a little nod to Pope Benedict’s U.S. visit. Is it true that he’s declined to dine at the White House?

yep. Saw it over at thinkprogress.

Our local rag’s front page is uninsured youngpeople and a hype tie-in story for Parade’s salary issue. Gack.

Merriam Webster re bitter:

1 a: being or inducing the one of the four basic taste sensations that is peculiarly acrid, astringent, or disagreeable and suggestive of an infusion of hops — compare salt, sour, sweet b: distasteful or distressing to the mind : galling
2: marked by intensity or severity: a: accompanied by severe pain or suffering b: being relentlessly determined : vehement c: exhibiting intense animosity d (1): harshly reproachful (2): marked by cynicism and rancor e: intensely unpleasant especially in coldness or rawness

Well, now, I’d say bitterness is a national condition. Next up: Guns and God. Where’s RevDeb when we need her?

Is it true that he’s declined to dine at the White House?

Pontiff not attending dinner in his honor, White House says

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0411.html

Odd for a Republican Pope, methinks. Maybe I don’t hate him so much after all…

Oh, poo! Universe ate number 3 definition for bitter, to wit:

3: expressive of severe pain, grief, or regret

the same article I cited also says that His Holiness (cough) refuses to even enter The White House.

But it says he’ll participate in a Rose Garden and Oval Office meeting. Re the dinner dis, perhaps he views it as the din of inequity.

So “bitter” is on the front page of the Philly Inquirer—not the Natl. Inquirer, mind you—and no where in the front page section, NO WHERE, is there anything about the WH torture meetings. Nor is it mentioned ANYWHERE in the “Currents” expanded Sunday editorial section.

Welcome to the American Reich, Owned and operated by Corpo America to serve it’s needs.

Disgusted here.

Man, those pancakes look tasty!

coffee anyone?

Q I’m sorry. The pope doesn’t attend a dinner in his honor?
MR. STANZEL: No.
Q (Off mike.)
MR. STANZEL: He doesn’t come into the building.

But you’re right - it also says he’ll take a meeting in the Oval Office.

What the hell, the entire story came outta The White House - what would a WH story be without a few inherent contradictions and outright lies?

Maybe he’ll invite the Chimperor for a meeting in a confessional booth at whatever the local Basilica is in DC (don’t know my DC church geography)

“Moron” being the operative word. My, my, they certainly do love to pat each other on the ass don’t they? CNN was practically orgasmic over the “bitter” story. No mention of yet another confirmation of criminality. Bitter? Damn skippy I am bitter!!!!

Maybe he’ll invite the Chimperor for a meeting in a confessional booth…

But isn’t George due to attend a ceremony on 1-20-09? I mean, that would be one looooong confession….

Great piece by Jane Smiley at HuffPost. She is furious about the parsing attack on Obama, sans even the most remote consideration of foundation and truth of his remarks. I am SO tired of this horrible campaign!

In MN’s third congressional district, there was a fierce but principled battle for Dem endorsement of a candidate yesterday. Terri Bonoff was the odds-on favorite in the beginning. But an upstart young Iraq vet named Ashwin Madia emerged. He got traction. The contest resulted in 8 ballots. At that point, Bonoff graciously withdrew, recognizing that the need for Dems to take back that district after a 50-year Republican domination is the most important thing.

Should Hillary withdraw? Oh, probably not. But Miss Manners needs to straighten her out.

“Moron” being the operative word.

Maybe oxymoron was the wrong word.

Omni-moronic?

coffee anyone?

would it be OK if I had orange juice
( *ducks* :)

Good morning everyone. Has the media or the neocons explained why Americans are NOT bitter and why the last eight years have made for a happy nation? I’m still waiting for this.

Too bad Katrina V. isn’t on this morning’s Roundtable on George Stephy. I always enjoy watching her make smoke roll out from under George Will’s hairpiece …

Yet the Bitter Voters for Obama link from twolf1 @ 12 has Jeffrey Tubin and Jack McCaffery, on CNN, very satisfyingly hammering both Clinton and McCain over their cheap, disingenous opportunism.

It’s bitter outrageous!

This is a froth MSM is whippin’ up, as if it’s all beyond their control. But all they have to do is GET REAL

and bitter bitter bitter on the Fox News All Stars.
balderbitterdash.

My breakfast orange juice was 100% Florida-grown.

I’m bitter.

Discussion today in my local paper of Bush admitting his top aides micromanaged torture and he knew they were — zero.

Fluffed stories rule.

Yeah. I’m bitter.

Better bitter than Bush-whacked!

I’m still bitter at the White House for lying our nation into an illegal occupation, getting away with it, and using it to bankrupt our country only for them to blame US for the economy doing so badly and for rescuing Wall Street instead of the very people who are the majority in this country: THE WORKER BEE ANTS!

It’s bitter outrageous!

Maybe I’m just having a dense moment, but could someone explain to me why suggesting that American voters are “bitter” at the moment is a bad thing?

and did you see that report that botox may migrate to the brain?

The nation of sheeple inject themselves with their own demise. Soylent Green next?

Do read the Jane Smiley post!

I’m bitter at the White House for spying on Americans illegally starting in February 2001 but told Americans that they HAD TO SPY ON US because of 9/11/01, even though they were spying on their political opponents in the beginning of their criminal regime.

Better bitter than Bush-whacked and Botoxed.

and did you see that report that botox may migrate to the brain?

mebbe you’ve just solved the riddle about what’s the matter with MSM ! lol

it isn’t the bitter part of it. Presumably it’s the part where they are “clinging” to guns and god because they are so bitter. “They” being the backwoodsy, rural know nothings. Hillary is trying to paint BO as an elitist. Feh. They all are. So what.

I wish this whole election nightmare was over and we could get on with fixing the country.

The nation of sheeple inject themselves with their own demise. Soylent Green next?

Contaminated food. Yuck!

I’m still bitter at the PNAC. I’m also bitter at how the White House allowed al-Zarqawi to cross over the border into Iraq before the bombings started to “show” Americans that al-Qaida was in Iraq so as to justify an attack on this sovereign nation who did not attack us on 9/11.

Meanwhile, to shore up her latest shape-shifting stance, Hillary is pictured sucking up bourbon and brewskis while regaling them/us with stories of her gun-toting days. Jane Smiley calls her a craven shill. I flinched but I can’t disagree.

I’m still bitter that the US Supreme Court in 2000 did not count all the votes and chose the dry drunk son of a former right wing president (you know, the one who gave his New World Order speech on 9/11/90) to lead our nation which was their way of giving the finger to the American people. I’m still bitter that Karl Rove, the RNC, and Ken Blackwell stole the 2004 election in the middle of the night when Americans were sleeping.

Isn’t John McCrazy married to a beer heiress? What an elitist he is! Wow.

Precisely so.

Do read the Jane Smiley post!

Thank you - just did. That’s pretty much what I was getting at. She just said it so much better. (hate it when that happens!)

next thing you know Commando Clinton will be “sniper shootin’” some poor ol’ lawyer in the face.

hey!

keeping clinging to that OJ there, El

;-)

Breaking bitterness: http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....121/494151

Hillary is pictured sucking up bourbon and brewskis …

I bet she’s just a delight to be around when she’s hung over - heh.

So. We have Hillary as wronged wife, Senate carpet-bagger, victim of the media, teary-eyed voice finder, Rocky and now Rambo. That’s R-A-M-B-O vs. the elitist Rambeau, dontcha know? Cheers! (raises glass of orange juice for a toast — no, wait, raises glass of orange juice and eats toast — eh, whatever)

I have an idea, up top there’s a link to each show where you’ll find links to email them.
So to each show that wastes better time on this bitter bit, I’m going to write a polite -not bitter- email to explain exactly why I AM bitter. And it isn’t because one of the candidates referred to me and my neighbors as “bitter”

We’ve laid out many reasons here why we are bitter. We should let them know how we feel, and why.

Kay - one advantage of worker bees over us — if the queen is not “doing her job” - they just create a new one.

Yes. Hunter is a treasure. He manages to capture the essence of whatever poo is floating in the MSM universe. What a talent.

It Takes Real Chutzpah for a Guy Who Owns Eight Houses (McCain) to Call Barack Obama an “Elitist”

So, I wonder if Hillary will make gay marriage, right to life, and the Second Amendment the keystones of her Pennsylvania campaign. At some point, she’s going to have to find ways to differentiate herself from McCane.

I mean, McCain.

FDL truth teams who can force themselves to watch any of the gasbags:

1. How much time spent on bitter?
2. How much time spent on Bush admitting micromanagement of torture?

Great idea. And build on the third definition of bitter (above):

3: expressive of severe pain, grief, or regret

Exactly. The worker bees will swarm and rip her legs off. LOL!

it isn’t the bitter part of it. Presumably it’s the part where they are “clinging” to guns and god because they are so bitter. “They” being the backwoodsy, rural know nothings. Hillary is trying to paint BO as an elitist. Feh. They all are. So what.

I wish this whole election nightmare was over and we could get on with fixing the country.

Amen. Amen.

We’ve got a lot to do to redeem, rebuild, restore, and reinvigorate our country. And as irritated as I get with the horse race, I now believe we’ll win easily in November.

It was great to see the sun yesterday with a high of 42 deg in northern MN after two snowstorms in a week dumped about 35 inches on us. Spring has been put on hold for now.

It is disappointing that the Sunday news programs have ignored the torture story. In particular, you would have thought ‘This Week’ would have addressed it, given ABC broke the story.

Frank Rich coupled with the Moyers’ speech lay the predicate for why it’ll be all bitter all the time this morning….

Been watching you from the Twin Cities, ironranger. You’ve really had a rough “spring.” Are ya bitter? (Okay, I’ll stop now.)

Good Morning Elliot.

O.j. it is. Sounds like the only thing I could stand if I plan to watch Pressed Meat. Ooogh. You jolted me awake in a hurry with that listing, you scamp, heh. ewwwwww

Hey. Does anyone know any more than Reuters’ report about the mosque bo*bing in Iran? Makes me sick. In my mornin’ fog, i half expect to find blaakwahtr having made an attempt to provoke a reaction, to give shooter an excuse to go in there with the big boomers. Yeah. I’m that deranged and disgusted.
It’s tinfoil time here. *shudder*

P E A C E

It Takes Real Chutzpah for a Guy Who Owns Eight Houses (McCain) to Call Barack Obama an “Elitist”

Last wee Fox News Sunday (for one) went on and on about how unnaturally wealthy the Clintons were from book sales and speaking fees, yet today Wallace celebrates a hundred gillion dollar contract a hockey player signed. No perspective, none.

Wow! *scooping up some sun and throwing it your way* ;-)

Matalin, Carville, Shrum and Murphy. Meet the Press is caught in a groundhog day loop. How many times can they jump the shark?

Hi, does anyone know where I can find McCain policy on the Bush Tax Cuts from 2002? You know when he was against them and now he’s for them?

I had the same thought that Blackwater must be somewhere in the vicinity to break open the bee’s nest to keep the Bush Regime happy in their quest to bomb Iran and to have one more conflict under their belts for the next president to handle.

It is disappointing that the Sunday news programs have ignored the torture story. In particular, you would have thought ‘This Week’ would have addressed it, given ABC broke the story.

eXcellent point.

We need to face this shame, not hide it.

Nah…what worker bees do is make the new queen and when she emerges, she fights the old queen. The new queen usually wins.

May I just say that the whole talking head thing is just over. There is no possibility that any of those jerks would say anything worth hearing. I admit it. I don’t listen anymore.