The Department Of Homeland Security plans to bring the devastating hoof-and-mouth virus to America’s moo belt, making Kansas Sen Roberts and the DHS happy as a firebug at a pyre of burning livestock carcasses. What, them worry? They’re Bushies.
As FDL readers have already learned, America’s feedlot livestock system is in a world of hurt. As a result of this Fatal Harvest, so are we. The Farm Bill is also in a world of hurt – and as a result of the Farm Bill’s insane subsidy trough to commodity Ag, Big Poison, and the Ag export cartels, so are we: along with our family farmers and our nation’s soils and waters, and our children’s health.
As we all know, the Bushies are the mutant spawn of the national GOP: a vast criminal enterprise that cynically pretends 450 million years of evolution didn’t happen and forces the National Park Service to pretend the Grand Canyon is 6,000 years old – all to hold on to the ignorant fundamentalists (nope, not the ones in Afghanistan…the ones in the mockery of Christ’s message which formed the "Christian Coalition") the megacorps and their hired thieves in the GOP require to keep winning stealing elections, and thus stay out of prison.
But hey – if I were a megacorp servant – in the board room, the prestigious law office, the Bushie-corrupted agencies, the Senate, the House, or the treason cult known as the Federalist Society – I’d wanna deny evolution, too. At least the karmic form. Who wants spend a long day abetting theft, torture and mass poisoning with the nagging awareness they’ll be reincarnated as thatch?
Because megacorps literally don’t give cow shit if we live or die, so long as they rake in more every quarter, their hired hands in the White House, Congress, the USDA/FDA, and the Federalist-infested Federal courts colluded to create Rube Goldberg "systems" that force us taxpayers to subsidize lethal "farm" systems.
WTF does this have to do with Hoof and Mouth disease? Plenty.
Cows evolved (yep, there’s that ugly word again) to eat grass – not grains. Cattle (cows, steers, etc) are known to bio nerds as ruminants – a fancy way of describing a whole bunch of critters who have in common the way their stomach works. Or – in the case of ruminants – stomachs. Yep – ruminants have more than one stomach: they have a whole series of ‘em, with acidity and microbes living in the stomachs ideally adjusted to allow Bessie to turn the grass we two legs can’t eat into the milk and meat we can eat.
There is a group of critters that evolved to eat grains – and have guts ideally adjusted to grind up and digest grains, and turn the grains into "meat". And they’re even two legged critters!
But they don’t give milk – they give eggs. They’re called "chickens". Given enough space to live in, they’ll happily and healthily turn grain into meat and eggs until – well – the cows come home.
That is, when the cows came home. Before the Farm Bill and the USDA deformed ag market forces under billions of bushels of artificially subsidized corn, two legs without feathers – that’s us humans – could make a living turning cattle onto pastures of grass, where their stomachs could do the happy cow thing and their rear ends could make cow patties. And then the local bugs could decompose the patties and the chickens could follow on and eat the bugs and the cows could go home at night and dream of yummy grass. Or listen to "cows with guns". Whatever.
Yep – the "grass-fed" cattle now hard to find outside of foodie markets were what most of our grandparents grew up eating. Without the need for adequate acreage to grow grass for cattle, the cows (and pigs) most of us now eat are raised in vast livestock ghettos called "feedlots". The intermediate step in the evolution of descent to current ag practices was raising cattle on grass and sending them to cow "finishing" school – feedlots where they were fattened up on grains before being sent off to market. The national center for feedlots – which have now spread across the country – was Kansas.
What is the matter with Kansas, anyway? Hey – I don’t know – maybe growing up in a place so darn flat, folks forget there’s a whole different world over the horizon. At least most Californians grow up close enough to mountains to be reminded there’s a whole world out there we don’t know. That is, when our air lets us actually see the mountains.
Anyway, one thing that’s "the matter" with Kansas – and every other place in the US where cows and pigs are raised cheek by jowl in massive feed lots – is that there’s a whole of shit on the ground. And a whole lot of shit percolating into ground water – or at least shit germs ( we nerds call ‘em "coliform bacteria" – fancy name for bacteria from the colon) percolating into the water. Yum.
Don’t drink the water, you say? Well you, too, can still partake of the shit feast industrial feedlots dump on America’s tables. The folks lucky enough to live near – or drive near – feedlots even get to breathe shit: in the form of aerosols of coliform bacteria and viruses blown into the sky from the shitlots.
Still hungry? Wait, there’s more.
Bessie and thousands of her sisters – and Porky and thousands of his brothers didn’t evolve (oops, there’s that word again) to spend their lives with shit up to their knees in livestock ghettos. The "lots" provide tasty feedstocks – livestock and shit – to create giant Petri dishes for a whole range of bacteria, fungi, and viruses that merrily hop from critter to critter, happily making microbe babies as they go. Now some microbes evolved (again) to live in cow guts and pig guts and chicken guts and even human guts: we warm-bloods are so used to them that without them, we get very sick – or even die. But with the wrong microbes, we get sick and die, too. That’s why every year, tens (hundreds? no one’s really counting ‘em all) of thousands of Americans get sick – and thousands of us die – from eating the E. Coli 0157 and Salmonella our huge industrial packing houses efficiently spread from one sick critter through the whole plant – and thus the whole production run.
Turns out crushing the local butcher and meatcutter – and their unions – by centralizing "meat packing" wasn’t such a good idea for us eaters, either. Who’d a thunk it? Ain’t industrial food production grand? Hey – and isn’t it great the Dems and the Bushies just loved them their meat packers – and chicken packers – so much they could toss their Upton Sinclair and "gut" the USDA’s stringent plant-by-plant inspection for "voluntary" industry inspections? Cause it works so much better when Salmonella guards the hen house, don’cha know?
So – uh – WTF does this have to do with Hoof and Mouth?
Steaming heaps of relevance, actually. The feedlot ghettos pack critters in so tight the livestock require massive doses of antibiotics just so they don’t keel over and die (well, before the dead ones can be dragged through the shit and ground up for burgers). Amazingly enough, spending life up to one’s knees in shit is not healthy – who’d a thunk it? When Industrial Ag is really greedy – which is to say, every frakking moment – the Lords of the Lots can wring out even more money by giving extra antibiotics to the critters to kill their natural internal microbes. ‘Cause those greedy microbes actually eat a teensy weensy amount of calories – and the Lords of the Lots can’t stomach greed, of course. Which is why more than 90% of the antibiotics used in the US go into livestock production.
But hey – it’s not like antibiotic resistance is a problem for humans, right? Right?
Anyway, just like a nursery school and flu, the critters crammed on the feedlots are sitting – er – cows for viruses. One of the nastiest viruses is "Hoof And Mouth" (or – for our purposes – HAM): it kills some critters, and causes horrible suffering in others.
Of course, the Lords of the Lots don’t give a flying fuck about animals’ death and misery: that’s their business.
Nope, the critters that survive Hoof And Mouth offend the Lords of the Lots because they have the (remaining) guts to be less efficient producers – they make less meat and milk per unit of food. Which is why the critter producing nations of the world suspend their worship at The Free Trade Temple to erect massive (and necessary) barriers to keep HAM out of their countries. So – if your country gets HAM, no one will buy your pigs. Or your cattle or your sheep.
Which brings us to the pic at the top (the pic is obviously symbolic: the real ones are too awful to show here). In 2001, some rather swinish ag malpractice in the UK saw a pig farmer feeding meat (presumably imported from a HAM-positive nation) that was not properly cooked to his pigs, and then ignoring mandatory reporting laws.
It can’t happen here, right? Our meatpackers and cattle yards follow all the rules, right?
Sure, salmonella brain. Want some E Coli with your stupid?
Anyway, back on planet Earth, the UK’s frantic effort to control HAM were a livestock Holocaust: almost seven million cattle, pigs, sheep (most destined for food, many heirloom breeding stock, many beloved pets) killed by the authorities – turning much of rural Britain into a vast abattoir – enforced by UK "security" forces.
As with nearly all "national security" carnage, much of the killing was later found to be wholly unnecessary. Millions of creatures died – for nothing.
Gosh, where have I heard that before?
Hey, aren’t you glad we don’t live in a country where national authorities and the boys in Kevlar use massive violence at the slightest provocation (or in the complete absence of one?). Me too – when did we all get there? I could’ve sworn this morning I awakened in America under the Bush Reich.
Anyway, that was one UK farmer serving contaminated imports to his pigs, right? Not from a lab, right?
Well – for the 2001 HAM outbreak, yes. For the 2007 HAM outbreak in the UK – the virus came out of their high-level Foot And Mouth Lab / Vaccine Center.
But that’s an Old Europe lab, right? Our New World HAM labs don’t leak, right?
Uh…not so much. The Dept of Ag’s current lab – isolated on Plum Island to protect us and our livestock – should damn well stay isolated. The place has released the Foot And Mouth virus "externally" once – and had several other internal "accidents".
A 1978 release of the virus into cattle holding pens on Plum Island, N.Y., triggered new safety procedures. While that incident was previously known, the Homeland Security Department told a House committee there were other accidents inside the government’s laboratory.
Oops.
But that was the Dept of Agriculture, right? DHS doesn’t make those mistakes, right?
Uh – sure, Bernie Kerik.
The UK’s over-reaction can’t happen here, right?
Well, the Kevlar crowd and the Goopers sure think it can. They think they’d have so many targets they’d run out of bullets.
A simulated outbreak of the disease in 2002 – part of an earlier U.S. government exercise called "Crimson Sky" – ended with fictional riots in the streets after the simulation’s National Guardsmen were ordered to kill tens of millions of farm animals, so many that troops ran out of bullets. In the exercise, the government said it would have been forced to dig a ditch in Kansas 25 miles long to bury carcasses. In the simulation, protests broke out in some cities amid food shortages.
"It was a mess," said Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., who portrayed the president in that 2002 exercise.
Imagine what a stiffie that exercise gave President Torquemada the Boy Frog-Torturer and the rest of the "Principals" in the Star Torture Chamber that is our White House.
And Senator Roberts – where have we heard that name before?
Now, like other lawmakers from the states under consideration, Roberts supports moving the government’s new lab to his state. Manhattan, Kan., is one of five mainland locations under consideration. "It will mean jobs" and spur research and development, he says.
Yep – that Sen Roberts – the one pushing to bring the Foot And Mouth lab – leaks and all – to Kansas. Looks like his learning curve is about as steep as the prairies. And looks like the GOP finally found the path to full employment in a growing recession.
Help wanted: gravedigger for cattle.
What’s the matter with Kansas? Why does Senator Roberts – and the GOP – so hate rural America they want to kill it?
No worries, right? The Riders of the GOP Apocalypse can always use a few good ghouls.
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The Doctor is in! Hi Kirk, it’s good to see you tonight. Always great to see you with one of your informative (& usually alarming) posts!
Sorry for the O/T Kirk, epu’d from last thread:
Just found this on Yahoooo! news (and an AP story no less):
Now, now seems to me that a certain blond-haired lady started this ball rolling before the DNC got around to their grandstanding!
And now for the irony-rich quote of the day:
Anyone ever tell Mr. Conant the barbarian about that obscure litigation filed by someone (can’t remember who) called Bush v. Gore?
Smarter republicans please. LOL! Well ok, not much smarter…
And has it occurred to Mr. Conant that it isn’t the Democratic National Committee that’s campaigning for president? Jesus Christ, wingnuts, just because you all line up like lemmings behind your anointed one doesn’t mean everybody does.
Dr. Kirk..good to see you back. As someone who until not too long ago raised sheep and goats, i can tell you that even us teeny producers are super aware of diseases making the march. Plastic bags for everyone coming into the barn; hand washing; keeping new members of the flock/herd separate for a time to make sure they are not bringing anything in. If people like me can handle this idea, why are these boneheads planning to, in effect, throw gas on a fire?
Because they love lots and lots of money, and have no scruples at all.
Sure, salmonella brain. Want some E Coli with your stupid?
You do wax prolific, but, you are one funny dude.
If ya like that kinda snark.
Lucky for me, I do.
If only I was a bunny, I could stick to carrots.
Huh…yet another disaster for American agriculture in the making.
Now that no American corn can be exported to the EU due to it’s contamination by Monsanto’s GMO corn looks like ‘Disaster Capitalism’ is looking around for new ‘opportunities’. Gonna be plenty in the ‘corn belt’ once folks find out that corn ethanol is a total scam.
And don’t forget ‘Mad Cow Disease’ is still here. We just don’t know where or how much.
Might scare folks.
And don’t overlook Mr. campylobacter
I agree with you Demi on the Doc’s sense of humor. I especially loved this part of his post and found myself laughing uncontrollably after reading it:
So – uh – WTF does this have to do with Hoof and Mouth?
Steaming heaps of relevance, actually.
Hysterical, snarky, sarcastic stuff. Love it. ;-)
Yup.
Um, steaming carrots anyone?
And, we do need to laugh. Releases something in our systems.
Doctor Kirk? Help? What does laughter do for us, honey?
I love meat. I’m not ashamed to admit it. We have been buying from farmers who treat their animals to outdoor food for years. It’s twice as expensive, but hey, you cut the ration in half and you are eating exactly the amount of meat the USDA says you should. It’s a win-win transaction.
Holy hell,
I live less than 10 miles from Plum Island, and have seen the security when striper fishing. Is that what they’re doing over there? Jesus.
This is some of the most expensive real-estate in the world. I can’t believe that type of lab work isnt done somewhere more…. remote.
You convinced me I need to start contemplate ordering free range. I’m cheap as hell, and also hate all the citified yuppies who drink lattes :), but I think I better move away from this Big Ag food.
Have you read the whodunit Plumb Island by Nelson DeMille? It’s a cliff hanger but perhaps OTT.
Evening, Doc!
So – meat-eaters want to know…
The Agriculture Department’s “Manhattan Project”
Let’s say that a US government program, set to phase in over 10 years maybe, that mandated an eventual halt to grain feed in cattle production, switching to grass-fed in the lower 48 – has anybody done the math (setting aside corn-grower states enormous army of outrage, the antibiotics and overcrowding issues for the moment):
How much grazing acreage, in how many states, to satisfy (only) domestic beef demand (realizing, of course, that demand is just as fluid a concept as is the weather)?
And – mighty nice to see you again!
OT
forgive please Kirk
but some guy just got a new green jacket so now 60 minutes is on:
We gotta use all the corn now for the net BTU losing ethanol anyway.
Iran makes ‘em do it.
Aloha, Doc! Another excellent post! That reminds me of the GMO corn crops the allowed to grow here in the Isles. We were assured by Big AG and the state that it would be cordoned off and well monitored to avoid cross-contamination… Well, of course it happened! Yet, the State and Big Ag settled it out of court and we were screwed…!
It is only a problem if you believe in evolution, natural selection. Then, excessive use of antibiotics results in mutations that are immune to the antibiotics. These mutations can spread to human desease germs. The result, deseases without cures. Or if you are a Creationist, this is just God punishing us, for being infidels.
Great post, but there was nothing about race, gender and Britney.
Everything Bush touches really does just disintegrate into tiny shit particles, doesn’t it?
Hey, Jo! Take a gander at M&C today…! ;-)
It’s all dependent on the quality of the acreage…what’s being grown on it, how efficient the animals are at turning that quality of forage into protein for themselves, etc. For example: theoretically, with my six acres, I should be able to keep 30 sheep, but my forage was not very good, so we could only keep about a dozen breeding ewes, doing well(that is, fed well enough that they did not have disease issues, etc.). And I do know that beef takes much more than sheep and goats do.
yeah, just read Kirk’s post
*heaving sigh of disgust*
Yep, And John McBu’ush promises to carry forth the legacy. About the only promise he will keep.
I fully believe that McCain will do everything right, if endless war and a blasted economic wasteland are your definition of “right.”
Why?
We don’t need any ethanol if we implement the:
Solar Grand Plan
which all be it’s lonesome could turn this nation around. Cheap electricity, FAB, and a host of other tech bottled up in American labs by Big Oil and Big Stupidity could put us in a much better economic position than we are now.
But…
You will never hear Senator’s Tweedledee and Tweedledumber (Barry the Ignorant) breathe a word of this to the populace.
Past time to be worrying about who’s black, who’s not…Time to think about….
Who’s Phat and who ain’t.
And….
Who’ll be livin’ in that used Reefer box in the alley if the likes of the DLC, DCCC and their co-enablers the ReThugs have their way.
Wake up America ans smell that money….our money…goin’ to the uber one tenth of one percent.
Stand up and take this nation back or your children’s children’s children will be living as slave.
Just like you are.
Anyone see Bill Moyers’ recent “CASH COWS & COWBOY STARTER KITS“?
Video available on the linky.
He has the King Feces touch.
Just skimmed over the post. Saw feedlots making piles of profit being mentioned. Where’s the downside to that?
Signed, a Republican.
Bite into a hunk of antibiotic resistance campylobacter infected fast food chicken and like 650 Americans did last year….
You wake up dead.
yep, I wake up every morning, see, read or hear about some other aspect of Bush’s legacy and sum it up this way:
I see we have been visited by the fuck up fairy again
Maverick McCain, brought to you by:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hensley_%26_Co.
So that’s his problem–too much free beer from the inlaws.
Speaking of tiny particles:
SciAm
I see we have been visited by the drunk
Hope you don’t mind my editing.
(Still hot here.)
awwww well it is supposed to cool off (just not today)
Well, I messed that up.
Sorry. You guys know what I meant to do.
Hopefully.
You know Kirk, this is just sort of the “wingtip” of the problem… if you think there’s a bit of daylight between these issues (regulation or lack thereof) at USDA and oh, I don’t know say, FAA you’re living in Fantasyland (hello GoOPers!).
How about we eat properly-raised meat and organic vegetables and leave the factory-produced crap to the GoOPers and let’s see who Mr. Darwin favors? If you had to pay a few extra dollars to ensure your health, ability to use antibiotics properly and keep the environment better (feedlots are huge polluters) wouldn’t it be worth it?
I’m not sure what you mean, Demi, but for the record I am sober tonight and have been all day. ;-)
More background on McCain’s in-laws:
http://www.democrats.com/john-…..to-the-mob
Newton, great question. IIRC “Fatal Harvest” looks at that.
The housing “bubble” subsidized destuction of usable forage land – and subsidized urban sprawl in US areas with sufficient rain fall to grow grass (and other non-grain fodder) further curtails available land for livestock.
At the same time “welfare raching” (grazing animals – almost all on public lands..yep, another subsidy) wander across 70% of the land mass of the eleven westernmost (not HI) US states.
The dry lands of the western US did not evolve (oops, there I go again) for those heavy hooved creatures in large numbers – adn the result has been massive dust blown off the (now-unprotected) surface of the western range lands.
Over a century ago, observers called cattle “locusts with hooves”.
Oh – who subsidizes the cattle? We do – USFS and BLM lands offer absurdly low fees to cattle grazers who keep their hooved locusts on our public lands.
Who cares about a bunch of dust?
Well, just about everyone in the West who drinks water.
The dust turns ice and snow darker, accelerating evaporation and runoff – and likely contributing to growing aridity in the West.
Welfare ranching- such a deal.
Looks great! The stories are spot-on!
JoFish, for those of with the money – and the choice – leaving the goopers to eat toxic crap seems like cowmic justice.
But the goopers’ kids didn’t choose to be born to fools.
And as over 20% of American families don’t enough money even for junk food, any “solution” that leaves them out will fail due to the fact they’d be (justly) seen as callous and elitist.
Of course, I know that’s not your intent – and those aren’t your values.
We do have a pile of money sitting around in our massive Ag subsidies – and right now it goes to ADM, cargill, monsanto, and other lethal megacorps.
Recalculating the Federal poverty level and the true cost of inflation will bring tens of millions of families into food stamp eligiblity.
Redirecting subsidies so every family can afford enough healthy animal/plant protein every week is another part of the solution.
Oh, sorry.
Not you.
Him. I always think the prez sounds kinda drunk when he speaks.
He can’t pronounce a word with any s’s without slurring.
So, he’s the drunk messed up fairy.
Again, nothing towards you. It is Sunday and all. :)
Mahalo! We need to keep pounding the issue! ;-)
Or wobblybits, who I was replying to.
97 degrees here in April. Holy Cow.
Bobby ZG, what a great linky. Thanks for that great resource.
EDP, what do you see with subsidized/nonsubsidized ag in your neck of the mountains?
And CT, thanks for that info on GM’s in HI. Scary stuff.
Especially when Monsanto – having functionally trapped farmers with GMO pollution – is now raising the price of Roundup by 20%.
Such a deal – the GMO seeds that were supposed to free farmers and the world causing suicide in India.
And roundup – the herbicide which is the goal of the vast bulk of Monsatan’s GM seeds has een shown to increase rates of non-hodgkin’s lymphoma.
Hey – and when applied in the watershed of salmon fisheries, roundoff kills off the busgs the baby salmon eat.
Such a deal.
That’s why until a few generations ago, seed distribution was the provicne of the USDA – too important to be left to megacorps.
That some guy is from South Africa; he was not my first choice. If you kept watching, though, you learned he had survived a really bad illness, has a good looking family (baby with red hair), and is a cutie himself. Just saying…maybe he deserves alittle respect, that guy. (Hard for me to say since I love the other guy)
Oh, Dr. it really does; then he walks away, or swaggers. I am so sick of that guy and sicker of those who can still defend him
Knut, you raise such a great point.
For those affluent enough to buy meat whenever – the vast majority eat so much it makes them more likely to sicken and die.
One reason – even in organic meat – is that our whole planet has been contaminated by POP”s (persistant organic pollutants).
For “POP’s” the “organic” is “organic chemistry” – sythetic compounds made from petroleum feedstocks that dissolve in oil, not water.
As discussed in Friday’s salmon posts, these POP’s concentrate in fat. Even herbivores like cattle get some from mamma’s udders (just like we humans get some from breast milk – thought to be the reason why breastfeeding decreases moms’ cancer risks).
And POP’s are in our soil and water, too.
The prototypical POP is/are PCB’s – pushed by Monsanto/monsatan as insulators for elec. equipment – even though monsatan knew since ther 30’s the PCB’s caused chloracne, tumors, reprodcutive problems, etc (google Anniston or check Friday salmon post for more).
VanityFair has a great expose on Monsanto, if anyone can fid the linky.
Anyway, the more animal fat we eat, the more POP’s we get – this (and hormones in farmed animals) is thought to be one reason cancer rates increase with increased consumption of beastflesh.
Yum.
zackly. Not trying to sound elitist, but it does seem that some small amount of “recalibration” of the economic targets as you suggest coupled with federal involvement in actual food programs might ensure that everyone gets healthy foodstuffs, not this factory crap that is being foisted on us.
Let’s face it, when the 1600 Crew opposed voluntary testing and labeling by a small farm for BSE a few years ago, I figured the game was up… and sure enough … it is.
Ultimately, the denial of sound science is more harmful in the long run than almost anything else this group of idiots has done. Validating concepts like a 6,000 year-old earth, Terri Schiavo’s viability to function, and ignoring the concepts of evolution and global warming have left us far worse off than we were even four years ago when the idiot was sent smirking back to his Castle on the Potomac (used to be the People’s House, remember that?).
Monsanto’s Harvest of Fear
http://www.vanityfair.com/poli…..anto200805
just in case I got the wrong linky in there
Nothing like being at the top of the foodchain, huh, Kirk?
i read this the other day kirk, here is the quote that got me—from your first link, and other links available, it was an ap article–
”Other possible locations for the new National Bio- and Agro-Defense Facility are Athens, Ga.; Butner, N.C.; San Antonio; and Flora, Miss. The new site could be selected later this year, and the lab would open by 2014. The number of livestock in the counties and surrounding areas of the finalists range from 542,507 in Kansas to 132,900 in Georgia,”
wanting to relocate to expand and have better access to facility is a crock of shite!!!!!!! they want relocate to a university to do their research,.
Athens–university of georgia
Butner-many colleges, duke among them
SanAntonio–UT health science center–biomedical research
Flora-many colleges
(somewhere on this page-
http://tech.einnews.com/mississippi/
was an article about it, but i can’t find it anywhere, but will post it anyway. maybe someone else can find it.)
here’s a senator’s press release about it.
http://www.senate.gov/~cochran/press/pr121807.html
they’re waving the ’cow population’ can be affected FLAG to DISTRACT from the fact that they’re moving it to universities to do their research………”watch the birdie over here”…….
the areas they chose–which are there—more cows or people?
those head counts for the cows aren’t really that large of a number……it’s a smokescreen,
my antennae are twitchin’ like crazy…
resources:
“welfare ranching: the subsidized destruction of the american west“
the monsanto song: food and health and hope
(oh – and “locusts with hooves” was John Muir’s reference to domestic sheep, not cattle)
Trevor Immelman, here’s the guy.
GW Clusterfuck has reached an new career low in JAR according to Pollster.com, which collects all major poll ratings.
This continues his pattern of falling to a low- and then rising a bit before falling to a new low. He is at about 28% Approval.
This is boring to most- but it’s a measure of how strong the anti Bush vote may be in November and how difficult the “McBush” moniker will have for McBush…
Interesting I think. Americans may be getting it.
Immelman lost strokes today- but he had plenty to lose. In the end, he kept his wits about him and relied on his habitual routine.
Kirk – Muir was not wrong about that – sheep are grazers(vs. browers, which is what goats are), and they will, under poor forage conditions, eat right down to the dirt. Of course, that plays havoc with their teeth, but they will graze right down. To do the job right with sheep, you have to move them around frequently.
forgot to add–
i didn’t hear of kansas being a proposed location, but if they are
University of Kansas Biomedical Research Center would be a wild guess. /s
http://www.kumc.edu/research.html
Elliot – thanks fo the linky (and the quote).
Jo -
Yep. Writers/thinkers way ahead of me have described the GOP’s War on Reason, noting the embrace of (a single narrow form of a single) religion) in the form of War on Evolution is the deliberately crafted weapon of Big Toxin (pesticide, chemicals, fossil fuels, processed food) to destroy the consumer activism/regulation that arise in the 70’s.
Too bad, I guess, that I think that is really good news. I read today he would be in TX for a fundraiser. I wonder if that is working for anybody. I think one day there will be stories about him going nuts in the White House like Nixon was said to have. Yet, how could one tell the difference?
Toby, I’m so glad you raised that concept..I’ve been blabbing a lot here – would be OK if I invited you to describe that in greater detail?
Gee, hoof-and-mouth, why don’t they just bring along rinderpest too! Might as well go whole hog.
heh-heh.
good one, AZ Matt.
Kirk just a quick drive by! I will be reading the full post a little later… Quick observation… the Bushies think they can do what they want and Fuc* the rest of us …. business as usual the bastards, I am sure they will get what they deserve in the end… Oh yeah I did take the time to Digg this for you.
Sure – being at the top of the food chain means that you get to ingest and absorb whatever was ingested, absorbed, or was sprayed on whatever you eat. We don’t tend to think about that much, but, for example, many traditional peoples DO – for example, I read once that the Eskimo do not eat the liver of polar bears — it makes them very very sick. Why? Because polar bears are at the top of their particular food chain in the Artic — they eat everything, including other animals like seals. Seal liver has a huge amount of Vit. A in it – so eating seals makes polar bear liver have an even more concentrated amount of Vit. A. Vit. A is not bad – too much is bad. Here in our relatively rich and abundant economy, our diets tend to concentrate at the top of the food chain — we eat meat. Lower down on the food chain would be eating fruits, veggies, grains, and vegetable protein sources like beans. The more wealthy people are, the higher up on the food chain they tend to eat, and even people who have been eating lower on the food chain(because of poverty, for example), when their economic status changes – they jump right up the ladder to eat more meat. But again, eating meat raised on commercial farms means “eating” what the animal ate or was given – such as: anti-parasitic drugs, antibiotics, growth enhancers, and whatever is in/on the grain/feedstuffs that they have been fed. Now, since we have no control over what the farmer has bought/produced to feed the animals, we have absolutely no idea what we are going to be eating along with that meat. E. coli is not the end of it.
Folks, thanks so much for joining the discussion this afternoon. Alas, not all monsters in the world come out of Monsanto’s vats (or their executive suites). I’m off to check out what’s charted for us upstairs.
And Nahant, thanks for the DIgg. When enough of us repeat these messages as much as possible – and draw attention to the repetition – the message gets across.
VF’s article demonstrates that – they’re publishing on the topics my friends at Biodevastation (2001) were talking about.
Good on the BioDev peeps – and good on VF.
Organic Consumers Association has a great piece on Maine clipping Monsatan’s tail – inspiring, and worth a read.
Now off to other monsters – back later.
http://www.dhs.gov/xres/labs/gc_1188508868258.shtm
university of georgia proposed site for research-unrelated?
can easily expand plans, not built yet.
1 hour from cdc.
veterinary school at uof g.
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haley barbour press release about possible location in miss for center
http://64.233.167.104/search?q…..ent=safari
Wow – Toby – just saw your reply and explanation.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
always a pleasure, Kirk.
Kirk – Muir was not wrong about that – sheep are grazers(vs. browers, which is what goats are), and they will, under poor forage conditions, eat right down to the dirt.
Actually there is an interisting feedback loop that (I recall) Lynn Margolis wrote about. Anthrax spores can live in dirt for a long time. The only time sheep get anthrax is when they expose a lot of dirt. So in some sense this is a defense of overgrazing because overgrazing sheep will be killed off.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q…..ent=safari
ends up my link at 69 is the proposed site in georgia…..
decision expected in fall of 2008
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http://www.ncc-nbaf.org/NBAF_s…..script.cfm
interview with dean in north carolina about it
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san antonio
http://www.uthscsa.edu/hscnews…..newID=2441
”What’s next?
“Now there will be a yearlong environmental impact study of each of the sites,” Dr. Herman said. “The Department of Homeland Security site selection committee will take the output of those environmental impact studies, in addition to all the previous work that has been done, and make a recommendation as to which of the five sites should be selected.”
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http://www.nbafsanantonio.org/aboutTBAC.html
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this is an interesting list
http://gulfstates-nbaf.org/consortium.html
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http://64.233.167.104/search?q…..ent=safari
”U.S. Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security, said,
“I am pleased the Madison County, Mississippi – Gulf State Bio proposal has advanced to the
next phase in the competitive process to select the location of the proposed National Bio and
Agro-Defense Facility. This is significant for the 2
nd
Congressional District and the State of
Mississippi. The diverse array of community and university involvement, without question,
strengthens the Mississippi proposal.”
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****now THIS is interesting! HOmeland Security project, mississippi is a finalist, and Mississippi’s rep is Chairman of the committee on homeland security…..
Doc Murphy -
excellent reportage and ya probably included that USDA Prime snark to keep us all from being too scared to finish – phew! made it – thanks
BobbyG – Moyers did a great job of covering such a complex mess – was really wacked out about how the Dems in the House wanna keep on keepin’ on with the current subsidy structure – and don’t even get me started with the Senate !
here is Dr Beckmann’s website -Bread for the World – it has a page of simple actions we can all do wrt Farm Bill
Aargh, Kirk, thanks for your informative post. The poor animals. The day when people cared for their livestock, and were stewards of the land – what was wrong with that? Who were the monsters that decided poisoning the land and torturing animals for meat and profit was the way to go? Horrible.
My Grandad was the first Iowan to raise more than 1000 head of hogs in a single farrow-to-finish operation back in the late 50’s.
After a couple years, he had to give it up because rhinitis became so devastating, his hogs couldn’t reach market weight.
So he did give it up, and acknowledged, old-time Republican that he was, that no farmer should raise that many head of ANYTHING on a small piece of ground.
That was back in the days when every farmer had a few head of cattle, hogs, a flock of chickens and acres of row crops and some silage, usually corn, soybeans, milo, alfalfa and a few other crops. And if one crop or livestock failed, the others made up for it.
But then, greedy corporations started pumping those hogs full of antibiotics, particularly penicillin, so they could pack the animals into tiny pens, and feed them en masse with one crop, corn.
At the same time the beef industry went corporate, too, and finished most of the cattle on feed lots, often feeding their own manure back to them along with CORN, and that is where the e-coli problems really started.
So while the hogs, so similar to us in their metabolism that we use some of their parts as organ transplants, were culturing penicillin resistant starins of influenza and other diseases that can readily adapt to kill us, the cattle were building up e-coli in the feedlots.
No one sounded a warning, then, except for a very few, and they were considered antagonists to the new, corporate way of farming, and were called pariahs even in their own academic circles.
Now, with so much of this snowballing into a morass of poison, disease and profits, we look back and wonder at the lack of oversight that led to our current contemptible situation.
Factory farms have taken over some of the best soil in the world, and filled the streams, rivers and wells of Iowa with biohazards galore. But ths profiteers are rarely near those places, they live in cities far from the smell.
SO now I live in Kansas, in one of the most popular tourist towns in the state. Yet you can’t drive in any direction without having to hold your nose, because we are surrounded by a whole new generation of feedlots, thousands of acres covered by hundreds of thousands of cattle, all packed together and growing fat and rancid while wading in their own toxic wastes.
Local county and city ballot measures that try to address these factory farms (and there have been many) are summarily dismissed by state lawmakers, in exchage for campaign contributions and less-savory contributions of many varieties.
It is the essence of “What’s the Matter with Kansas”, that we continue to be so discouraged by our inability to control our own destiny, that so few voters show up to the polls in the past, they have for so long felt that they are not included in this process. But is is also “what’s the matter with Iowa” and Illinois, and Missouri and Arkansas and every other state where the greedy legislatures depend on apathetic citizens not voting to remain in control of the state laws, so they can enable their factory-farm benefactors to remain in business.
Like everything else that we have allowed the greedy to manage and mangle, from our war machine to our manufacturing base, this all comes down to bottom line politics, and a Republican-controlled state legislature that ignores the needs and the well-being and the will of the people, in exchange for their profane bribes and campaign contributions.
I hope the new awakening in public involvement that we have seen across the land bleeds over to these states, and We, the People, get back our state governments, adn begin to reverse this poison legacy. For the good of our children, and their children, and future generations to come.
kirk–i knew i had it somewhere, i found it! it’s not saved as a site, it’s a pdf, took a while to find it…..
i have a pdf of the ’scoping meeting’ materials for the proposed NBAF facility, lists the diseases they want to study at the new facilities–some are bsl-4 level, kirk….forget exposing cows, this stuff shouldn’t be anywhere near populated areas.
like i said, the exposing cows thing is a smokescreen. watch the birdie over here.
email me at the p— at frognet address if you want it, didn’t want to just send it, i know, like me, you’re on dial-up
the pdf has ALL of the nuts and bolts of the proposed facility. and lays out the process involved for approval.
can’t figure out where i got it, it’s an official DHS document, but can’t find the html link to post it. don’t know how to figure that out if it can be done. tried to google to find a link, but no luck.
you really need to read it.
Thanks Kirk.
Most meat is grass fed at some point, calving usually takes place on the range or a farm. They ship to feedlots for varying lengths of time to gain weight for slaughter. They get a time release pellet placed under their skin by the ear for a continuous release of steroids, antibiotics, hormones to keep them alive in filthy conditions, but also to pack on pounds.
So. they could lessen the time in feed lots, but it would cost them some profit, cut out some middlemen. People would have to get used to a more flavorful but less fatty cuts of meat. Grass fed cows have a higher percentage of a good fat, in addition to lack of drugs, so it is better in a nutritious sense. I never eat feed lot or factory meat now, it does not taste good to me.