Comments on: Come Saturday Morning: Johnny Jump Up http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:18:14 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: egregious http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385067 egregious Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:29:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385067 <p>Howie’s upstairs with a truly progressive candidate, <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/blue-america-welcomes-joe-garcia-fl-25/" rel="nofollow">Joe Garcia</a>, running in south Florida. </p> <p>Come on by and ask him a couple questions.</p> Howie’s upstairs with a truly progressive candidate, Joe Garcia, running in south Florida.

Come on by and ask him a couple questions.

]]> By: dakine01 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385059 dakine01 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:22:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385059 <p>Or, you could have clicked on the <a href="http://firedoglake.com/news/" rel="nofollow">More News</a> link inside the front page News box, and scrolled down the first page and found <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/administration-set-to-use-new-spy-program-in-us/" rel="nofollow">this story</a> from the same source.</p> Or, you could have clicked on the More News link inside the front page News box, and scrolled down the first page and found this story from the same source.

]]> By: pmorlan http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385055 pmorlan Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:12:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385055 <p>Sorry about my previous comment. My computer was getting ready to crash (I know the signs..LOL) so I posted in haste. Here is a cleaner post.</p> <p>Administration Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.<br /> Congressional Critics Want More Assurances of Legality</p> <p>By Spencer S. Hsu<br /> Washington Post Staff Writer<br /> Saturday, April 12, 2008; Page A03 </p> <p>The Bush administration said yesterday that it plans to start using the nation’s most advanced spy technology for domestic purposes soon, rebuffing challenges by House Democrats over the idea’s legal authority. </p> <p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/11/AR2008041103655.html?nav=hcmodule" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....v=hcmodule</a></p> Sorry about my previous comment. My computer was getting ready to crash (I know the signs..LOL) so I posted in haste. Here is a cleaner post.

Administration Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.
Congressional Critics Want More Assurances of Legality

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 12, 2008; Page A03

The Bush administration said yesterday that it plans to start using the nation’s most advanced spy technology for domestic purposes soon, rebuffing challenges by House Democrats over the idea’s legal authority.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..v=hcmodule

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385052 dmac Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:11:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385052 <p>In 2002, two of these states, the United States and Israel, ”unsigned” the Rome Statute, indicating that they no longer intend to become states parties and, as such, they have no legal obligations arising from their signature of the statute.[2][13][14]</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Statute_of_the_International_Criminal_Court" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.....inal_Court</a></p> <p>since you guys brought it up–we aren’t members, so, not a party to the ’law’?…….however, we committed acts in countries that ARE members……so, can that be the way in?</p> <p>look at the map on the wiki page………we transported and confined and tortured people in countries where it was illegal according to the icc list……and if we didn’t torture until they were at guantanamo, (guess cuba is not a member of the icc or we wouldn’t have built it there)we captured some and transported them through member countries to get them there.</p> <p>wouldn’t that be violating icc?</p> <p>remember when we weren’t allowed to do certain things (troops and who knows what else) through britain and we did? and were caught?<br /> whatever happened with that..</p> In 2002, two of these states, the United States and Israel, ”unsigned” the Rome Statute, indicating that they no longer intend to become states parties and, as such, they have no legal obligations arising from their signature of the statute.[2][13][14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R…..inal_Court

since you guys brought it up–we aren’t members, so, not a party to the ’law’?…….however, we committed acts in countries that ARE members……so, can that be the way in?

look at the map on the wiki page………we transported and confined and tortured people in countries where it was illegal according to the icc list……and if we didn’t torture until they were at guantanamo, (guess cuba is not a member of the icc or we wouldn’t have built it there)we captured some and transported them through member countries to get them there.

wouldn’t that be violating icc?

remember when we weren’t allowed to do certain things (troops and who knows what else) through britain and we did? and were caught?
whatever happened with that..

]]> By: pmorlan http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385044 pmorlan Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:01:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385044 <p>Administration Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.<br /> Congressional Critics Want More Assurances of Legality</p> <p>Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told lawmakers that a new spying office won’t violate rights. (By Paul Sakuma — Associated Press)<br /> Enlarge Photo </p> <p>TOOLBOX<br /> Resize Text<br /> Save/Share + DiggNewsvinedel.icio.usStumble It!RedditFacebookmyspaceYahoo! BuzzPrint This E-mail This<br /> COMMENT<br /> washingtonpost.com readers have posted 75 comments about this item.<br /> View All Comments »</p> <p>POST A COMMENT<br /> Your washingtonpost.com User ID, pmorlan1, will be displayed with your comment.</p> <p> Discussion PolicyDiscussion Policy CLOSEComments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site. Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain “signatures” by someone other than the actual author will be removed. Finally, we will take steps to block users who violate any of our posting standards, terms of use or privacy policies or any other policies governing this site. Please review the full rules governing commentaries and discussions. You are fully responsible for the content that you post. </p> <p>Who’s Blogging» Links to this article<br /> By Spencer S. Hsu<br /> Washington Post Staff Writer<br /> Saturday, April 12, 2008; Page A03 </p> <p>The Bush administration said yesterday that it plans to start using the nation’s most advanced spy technology for domestic purposes soon, rebuffing challenges by House Democrats over the idea’s legal authority</p> <p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/11/AR2008041103655.html?nav=hcmodule" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....v=hcmodule</a></p> Administration Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.
Congressional Critics Want More Assurances of Legality

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told lawmakers that a new spying office won’t violate rights. (By Paul Sakuma — Associated Press)
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By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 12, 2008; Page A03

The Bush administration said yesterday that it plans to start using the nation’s most advanced spy technology for domestic purposes soon, rebuffing challenges by House Democrats over the idea’s legal authority

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..v=hcmodule

]]> By: dakine01 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385043 dakine01 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:01:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385043 <p>I understand his reasoning but with the news of the “principals” meetings to discuss torture occurring at the highest level of the government <em>should</em> keep it from all being laid at Yoo’s feet. After all, the order to proceed did NOT come from Yoo.</p> I understand his reasoning but with the news of the “principals” meetings to discuss torture occurring at the highest level of the government should keep it from all being laid at Yoo’s feet. After all, the order to proceed did NOT come from Yoo.

]]> By: AppleCanyon2 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385042 AppleCanyon2 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:59:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385042 <p>Wigwam,<br /> Remember when the Clinton’s were accused of “trashing” the White House on their way out the door at the end of Bill’s term and the “grown-ups” were now in charge. Of course we all do, but my rage today is that this was done in the “People’s House” and the shame of this Administration will not be wiped clean in a hundred years.<br /> The dumb ass admitted it and nothing is said. Oh wait, this is a Republican administration. Obama says something that comes out on the same day about “bitter” people and it is all over the news. Just like you said, “a conspiracy of silence.”<br /> Sorry for the rant, you just touched on a raw nerve and the rant is not directed at you.</p> Wigwam,
Remember when the Clinton’s were accused of “trashing” the White House on their way out the door at the end of Bill’s term and the “grown-ups” were now in charge. Of course we all do, but my rage today is that this was done in the “People’s House” and the shame of this Administration will not be wiped clean in a hundred years.
The dumb ass admitted it and nothing is said. Oh wait, this is a Republican administration. Obama says something that comes out on the same day about “bitter” people and it is all over the news. Just like you said, “a conspiracy of silence.”
Sorry for the rant, you just touched on a raw nerve and the rant is not directed at you.

]]> By: katymine http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385041 katymine Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:59:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385041 <p>VERY surprising article about Ray McGovern in the AZ Republic(ian)<br /> <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0411cia0411a.html" rel="nofollow">Ex-CIA analyst will speak out</a></p> <blockquote><p>One day after President Bush depicted Iran as one of the greatest threats to the United States and his top officials in Iraq testified that Tehran was directing armed insurgence there, in Phoenix, retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern will denounce the Iraq war, use of torture and the perils of injecting politics into agency reports.</p> <p>McGovern, whose 27-year agency career culminated in briefing President George H.W. Bush, gave back his commendation medal to protest the CIA’s use of torture in the fight against terror. McGovern retired in 1990.</p> <p><b>“Iran isn’t a threat. The biggest threat to the United States is the constitutional breakdown </b>whereby the legislative branch has ceded its authority to the executive, and which has ramifications for many future presidents,” he said. “The threat is internal.” </p></blockquote> <p>McGovern stated that there is a 50/50 chance of a surprise attack on Iran between Oct & Jan this year…</p> VERY surprising article about Ray McGovern in the AZ Republic(ian)
Ex-CIA analyst will speak out

One day after President Bush depicted Iran as one of the greatest threats to the United States and his top officials in Iraq testified that Tehran was directing armed insurgence there, in Phoenix, retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern will denounce the Iraq war, use of torture and the perils of injecting politics into agency reports.

McGovern, whose 27-year agency career culminated in briefing President George H.W. Bush, gave back his commendation medal to protest the CIA’s use of torture in the fight against terror. McGovern retired in 1990.

“Iran isn’t a threat. The biggest threat to the United States is the constitutional breakdown whereby the legislative branch has ceded its authority to the executive, and which has ramifications for many future presidents,” he said. “The threat is internal.”

McGovern stated that there is a 50/50 chance of a surprise attack on Iran between Oct & Jan this year…

]]> By: Twain http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385040 Twain Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:56:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385040 <p>Agreed but Glenn seems concerned that because of the focus on Yoo that he will get ALL the blame and the others will get almost none.</p> Agreed but Glenn seems concerned that because of the focus on Yoo that he will get ALL the blame and the others will get almost none.

]]> By: Eureka Springs http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385039 Eureka Springs Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:54:23 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/12/come-saturday-morning-johnny-jump-up/#comment-1385039 <p>Here is the six minute youtube from KO which every low info citizen needs to see.</p> <p>Bush Admits Ordering Torture! ~<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8e435jXDvg" rel="nofollow">Olbermann</a> (w/ John Dean)</p> <p>Does anyone know if Bush made his admission on camera and where? We need to get it up on youtube if at all possible.</p> Here is the six minute youtube from KO which every low info citizen needs to see.

Bush Admits Ordering Torture! ~Olbermann (w/ John Dean)

Does anyone know if Bush made his admission on camera and where? We need to get it up on youtube if at all possible.

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