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	<title>Comments on: Wild Salmon: $40 A Pound; Giving Away Their Water: $40 Billion</title>
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		<title>By: sammy1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/11/wild-salmon-40-a-pound-giving-away-their-water-40-billion/#comment-1385170</link>
		<dc:creator>sammy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the better posts I wish I hadn’t read.&lt;br /&gt;
I’m a sushi nut and since tuna’s now out (mercury) I switched to salmon, which I love(ed). Yet another casualty to irresponible corporatism along with lack of goverment oversight and resource management for the public good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And another point, that I didn’t see made (unless I missed it) is that as the price of wild salmon rises it becomes more profitable to harvest, accelerating the decline of the wild salmon population driving more business to the corporate salmon farming industry which ultimately increases their profits. So it would actually be in the interest of the salmon farming industry to see wild salmon either disappear entirely from the planet or at least decline enough to insure the increasing profitibity of their industry.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sigh!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the better posts I wish I hadn’t read.<br />
I’m a sushi nut and since tuna’s now out (mercury) I switched to salmon, which I love(ed). Yet another casualty to irresponible corporatism along with lack of goverment oversight and resource management for the public good.</p>
<p>And another point, that I didn’t see made (unless I missed it) is that as the price of wild salmon rises it becomes more profitable to harvest, accelerating the decline of the wild salmon population driving more business to the corporate salmon farming industry which ultimately increases their profits. So it would actually be in the interest of the salmon farming industry to see wild salmon either disappear entirely from the planet or at least decline enough to insure the increasing profitibity of their industry.  </p>
<p>Sigh!</p>
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		<title>By: Starbuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Americans, who constitute ~5% of world population, consume ~25% of world resources.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Buckminister Fuller was preaching this in the 70’s&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Americans, who constitute ~5% of world population, consume ~25% of world resources.”</p>
<p>Buckminister Fuller was preaching this in the 70’s</p>
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		<title>By: Novista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In addition to #2, there is the little matter of the farm bill recipients who are happy as pigs in mud about growing more corn for ethanol.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to #2, there is the little matter of the farm bill recipients who are happy as pigs in mud about growing more corn for ethanol.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/11/wild-salmon-40-a-pound-giving-away-their-water-40-billion/#comment-1384235</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Doctor Murphy!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Loosening ‘the Salmon of Doubt’, then Kirk? (Apologies to Douglas Adams and yerself, if offended)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great post, as always …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of late, Kirk I’ve fond optimism at both ends, as it were.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m optimistic in the short run, IF the human species gets ‘it’, together… then …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, in the long run, if we don’t, then old mother nature and the earth herself will get along just fine WITHOUT US. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The penquins and their polar opposites, those white bears, just don’t appear to be smart enough to understand ‘Murkin appetites and global economic realities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, I especially like the ‘War on Krill’, looks like it has a great future…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctor Murphy!!</p>
<p>Loosening ‘the Salmon of Doubt’, then Kirk? (Apologies to Douglas Adams and yerself, if offended)</p>
<p>Great post, as always …</p>
<p>Of late, Kirk I’ve fond optimism at both ends, as it were.</p>
<p>I’m optimistic in the short run, IF the human species gets ‘it’, together… then …</p>
<p>And, in the long run, if we don’t, then old mother nature and the earth herself will get along just fine WITHOUT US. </p>
<p>The penquins and their polar opposites, those white bears, just don’t appear to be smart enough to understand ‘Murkin appetites and global economic realities.</p>
<p>But, I especially like the ‘War on Krill’, looks like it has a great future…</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;We’ll get there - and the coming recession/depression will help.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the blind greed of the collective on Wall Street will be showcased to the world.  As more financial heavies find themselves in trouble they will look to the Fed for a bailout and the Fed will happily comply.  The free market mantra of self-regulation will be exposed for what it really is.  It already has with J P Morgan/Bear Stearns but the administration and financial press doesn’t want you to see it that way.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Churchill said, “The is not the beginning of the end; rather it is the end of the beginning.”  (from memory, so be kind, please)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>We’ll get there &#8211; and the coming recession/depression will help.</em></p>
<p>And the blind greed of the collective on Wall Street will be showcased to the world.  As more financial heavies find themselves in trouble they will look to the Fed for a bailout and the Fed will happily comply.  The free market mantra of self-regulation will be exposed for what it really is.  It already has with J P Morgan/Bear Stearns but the administration and financial press doesn’t want you to see it that way.    </p>
<p>As Churchill said, “The is not the beginning of the end; rather it is the end of the beginning.”  (from memory, so be kind, please)</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LS, growing up our kitties routinely live nearly 20 years eating commercial food.  Now vets seem to regard kitties over 10 as “senior” - and think I’m not grounded in reality to have had different expectations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But many,  many kitties living so log tells me something awful has happened to make a 50% reduction in lifespan the (apparent) new norm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much for your comment.  I’ve no proof, but in addition to acute toxicity like that we saw last year, I’m iincreasingly concerned that even the best prescription cat food from the vet is not as safe as was regular store-bought food twenty years ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WOnder what out-sourcing our supply of raw ingredients to the cheapest global bidder is doing to human health and longevity?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;_ _ _&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;New post upstairs, pups - thanks fo rcoming!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LS, growing up our kitties routinely live nearly 20 years eating commercial food.  Now vets seem to regard kitties over 10 as “senior” &#8211; and think I’m not grounded in reality to have had different expectations.</p>
<p>But many,  many kitties living so log tells me something awful has happened to make a 50% reduction in lifespan the (apparent) new norm.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your comment.  I’ve no proof, but in addition to acute toxicity like that we saw last year, I’m iincreasingly concerned that even the best prescription cat food from the vet is not as safe as was regular store-bought food twenty years ago.</p>
<p>WOnder what out-sourcing our supply of raw ingredients to the cheapest global bidder is doing to human health and longevity?</p>
<p>_ _ _</p>
<p>New post upstairs, pups &#8211; thanks fo rcoming!</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;good news is that’s why the ad men ;/pr men WPP / burson marsteller have to spend more to get less everyear.  Even the majority of Americans now believe having more (above basic food clothing shelter - and affordable education /healthcare /energy / transport) doesn’t imp-rove their lives.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With these cultural shifts underway, the collapse in US borrowing - and hence purchasing - power is a real opportunity to curtail the culture of ecocidal conspicuous consumption.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The challenge and the art for progressives will be to ensure the least well off experience some increas in capacity to meet basic needs as the total purchasing capacity declines.  The fact income distribution is as skewed as any time in US history - and the megacorps are distrusted by the majority - will make that easier than one think.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The art will be in accurately and clearly conveying that process - so the upper 0.1% can’t use economic deprivation among the least fortunate to discredit progressive changes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The same gloabl brain trusts that smashed the image of the WTO, IMF/WB, “free trade”, etc are well along in working on this, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The US Army and State Dept began plannig for the postwar occupation of Germany in 1943.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many days it seems like that’s where we progessives are: we’ll have more years when we watch the fascists we’re working to defeat kill people and communities we love - and then we’ll be able to recast the whole mess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Lake and our community here seem like a growing piece in that great effort.  What a cool time to be a progressive?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who’d a thunk that four days of Torch Tour would prompt global leaders to start telling China to drop the hissy fits and join the community of nations - and start with freedom in TIbet?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good news is that’s why the ad men ;/pr men WPP / burson marsteller have to spend more to get less everyear.  Even the majority of Americans now believe having more (above basic food clothing shelter &#8211; and affordable education /healthcare /energy / transport) doesn’t imp-rove their lives.</p>
<p>With these cultural shifts underway, the collapse in US borrowing &#8211; and hence purchasing &#8211; power is a real opportunity to curtail the culture of ecocidal conspicuous consumption.</p>
<p>The challenge and the art for progressives will be to ensure the least well off experience some increas in capacity to meet basic needs as the total purchasing capacity declines.  The fact income distribution is as skewed as any time in US history &#8211; and the megacorps are distrusted by the majority &#8211; will make that easier than one think.</p>
<p>The art will be in accurately and clearly conveying that process &#8211; so the upper 0.1% can’t use economic deprivation among the least fortunate to discredit progressive changes.</p>
<p>The same gloabl brain trusts that smashed the image of the WTO, IMF/WB, “free trade”, etc are well along in working on this, too.</p>
<p>The US Army and State Dept began plannig for the postwar occupation of Germany in 1943.</p>
<p>Many days it seems like that’s where we progessives are: we’ll have more years when we watch the fascists we’re working to defeat kill people and communities we love &#8211; and then we’ll be able to recast the whole mess.</p>
<p>The Lake and our community here seem like a growing piece in that great effort.  What a cool time to be a progressive?  </p>
<p>Who’d a thunk that four days of Torch Tour would prompt global leaders to start telling China to drop the hissy fits and join the community of nations &#8211; and start with freedom in TIbet?</p>
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		<title>By: QuakerGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>QuakerGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Does anyone here know if Everybody’s Business An Almanac: an Irreverent Guide to Corporate America has been updated? It was first published a few years ago by Bob Levering, Milton Moskowitz and Michael Katz.  This is the same team that went on to write The Hundred Best Companies to Work for in America. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In Everybody’s Business they trace a mega company from its simple beginnings and through many acquisitions. What you once remembered as a good product no longer exists though the name may be the same. Try and find this info on a label. Hah! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They used to up date this book but I no longer know its status. I think when companies were raped, plundered and their skeleton thrown to the dogs in rapid succession, they may not have been able to keep up with it. I don’t know.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone here know if Everybody’s Business An Almanac: an Irreverent Guide to Corporate America has been updated? It was first published a few years ago by Bob Levering, Milton Moskowitz and Michael Katz.  This is the same team that went on to write The Hundred Best Companies to Work for in America. </p>
<p>In Everybody’s Business they trace a mega company from its simple beginnings and through many acquisitions. What you once remembered as a good product no longer exists though the name may be the same. Try and find this info on a label. Hah! </p>
<p>They used to up date this book but I no longer know its status. I think when companies were raped, plundered and their skeleton thrown to the dogs in rapid succession, they may not have been able to keep up with it. I don’t know.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is this; “A Conversation about Race” at Howard U with Brian Williams hosting…?  Spare me please…!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this; “A Conversation about Race” at Howard U with Brian Williams hosting…?  Spare me please…!</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That was to ET and the smoked salmon….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was to ET and the smoked salmon….</p>
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