Union leaders met with Nancy Pelosi yesterday to discuss, among other things, the Colombia "Free Trade" Agreement.
It was pretty cool when George Bush threw a lame duck temper tantrum and tried to "fast track" the agreement, and Pelosi fired back with a procedural vote that stripped the timeline requirement and effectively tabled the bill. No doubt Preznit Rumplestiltskin was putting his foot through every floor in the White House over what that woman dared to do:
Mr. Bush, in a statement, denounced the House move. “Today’s unprecedented and unfortunate action by the House of Representatives led by Speaker Pelosi to change the rules governing legislation to implement our trade agreement with Colombia is damaging to our economy, our national security, and our relations with an important ally,” he said. “It also undermines the trust required for any administration to negotiate trade agreements in the future.”
If we don’t sign a trade deal with Colombia the terrorists will win, doncha know.
But there has been concern in the wake of Pelosi’s subsequent statement, and comments made by James Moran (D-VA), that the bill was pulled because they thought it wouldn’t pass now, and that it will be revisited after the election when conservative Bush Dogs can support it and not pay a price at the polls. David Sirota has been all over it.
After the meeting yesterday, Bill Samuel of the AFL-CIO said they felt pretty good that Pelosi didn’t intend to bring it up again in a lame duck session. The AFL-CIO has taken a leadership position in opposing the bill, in large part due to the fact that Colombian death squads have been targeting trade unionists, and more than 400 have been killed since President Uribe took office in 2002. He said that in Pelosi’s statement, she indicated that until George Bush is willing to work with Congress on addressing the problems that Americans face with regard to economic insecurity, the foreclosure crisis and healthcare, he can take his trade deal and stuff it.
While the AFL disagrees with that position — they aren’t interested in having the Colombia trade deal revisited even if Bush deals with domestic economic issues — he doesn’t think Bush will actually do it so he doesn’t think it’s going to be an issue.
It’s hard to know what’s being said to whom in order to pacify them in the situation, and a few winks and nods were obviously thrown to the Bush Dogs who have taken a lot of money to support the Colombia agreement. But if it comes up after November, it will be extremely divisive with labor interests and the Dems no longer have the excuse that Bush Made Them Do It:
One Democrat noted that the Thursday vote creates a situation in which the party could come under increased fire from organized labor if it moves ahead later this year. It would then be a Democratic decision to proceed rather than one forced upon them by the White House.
“We own it now,” said the Democrat, who did not want to be named because he was raising concerns about the speaker’s decision.
So a Democrat publicly admits that the party operates by doing things they want to do and then blaming it on George Bush. Well we knew it all along, but it’s kind of startling to hear them admit it in broad daylight anyway.
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zedish
Dezish
I can’t stand Pelosi.
“Colombia”
what a concept!
You think now might be a good time to send lots of e-mails to her? This trade deal has to be stopped. We will lose the unions if it isn’t whether it’s enacted now or next year. The Dems are dim.
his bad decisions have always bailed out by daddy’s money and his rich friends money … he wouldn’t know about what it’s like to have to struggle to pay bills under any circumstances ….
yesterday was her most limpid showing yet…get the hook!
That sound vaguely familiar /S
‘colombia’ is the country
‘columbia’ is the university
sorry, pet peeve of mine.
Columbia the gem of the ocean?
ok bad day,feeling nervous about Chenois
bbl
This has really shaken our plutocratic overlords judging by the number of op-eds chastising the Democrats’ “pandering”. Harold Meyerson had a nice op-ed against the grain yeterday in the Post.
You mean that top Democrats wanted the MCA, wanted massive illegal surveillance of Americans, wanted amnesty/immunity to cover their Vichy Opposition’s backside? What will they think of next? Taking impeachment off the table, or nominating John Yoo to a seat on the 9th Circuit?
Gawd, don’t give her highness St. Nancy of Napa any ideas.
this seems like a money quote from your link:
Time to give my congressman a serious talking-to.
You know, it’s time that many many folks gave their congresscritters a good talking-to even if they are “friendly”.
So many of them seem to forget who they actually work for. 2008.. the year of taking Congress to the “woodshed”?
If this “Free Trade” bill is brought back it had better address the effects on the American workers who are suffering from all those other “Free Trade Agreements” which do nothing for the American workers except drive their jobs out of the country! Which also forces them to take much lower paying jobs. Which in turns forces their families to forces both parents to work. With all of its inherent cost to the family structure. Think latch key kids…
Jane great post a little digg for it!
Does anyone ever listen to what he says anymore? Who is he trying to convince?
Hot Chilean politics or hot chili on a tortilla?
If they bring this back up after November I want to take a close look at the language to decipher just who has a financial stake in it.
Someone always makes money off of these fucking deals and it ain’t you or me.
The American “Enterprise” Institute, Michelle Malkin, Larry Kudlow and the WSJ Editorial Page. Oh, and maybe the Federalist Society and all donors to his “lie-berry”.
Not to mention that Bushco would love nothing more than an agreement leading to US bases on Venezuela’s border. W is the War Prezdenent and Chavez called him the devil and said he left an “odor” at the UN….W does not care about anybody or anybody’s jobs or human rights…that isn’t what this is about…hence the “fast track”…
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Could it be because large US employers like General Motors are handing out pink slips to tens of thousands of workers and hiring their replacements in China and India? Or is it that any HR head, consultant or lawyer that wants to stay employed treats their employer’s workforce like a disposable diaper?
CongressCritters vote with their pocketbooks and under- and unemployed voters’ pockets are empty. Blue America, I think, has found a few that vote for better reasons. Take a look and consider supporting them. Thanks.
Most Dems are GOPers in sheep’s clothing. The Beltway crown is there for money, power and ego. Good policy and law have nothing to do with our Congress. Pelosi is as bent as any of them and will go for the free trade deal when it suits her needs.
bom dia, pups
can we please get some leadership with a serious backbone, one with an axe to grind, one that will bite the repugs in the ass.
in my opinion this is bogus.
pelosi capitulated on the peru deal claiming that she got what she wanted on labor rights.
here’s the thing that the trade protests have been about – the deals are made in secret by a combination of the political elite and multination corporations. while labor rights advocates, human rights advocates, democracy advocates, environmental rights advocates – all members of civil society – are greeted with tear gas, pepper spray and batons when they demand a seat at the table.
open up the process, make it transparent, and give all segments of society at seat at the negotiation table. i’m sick of the games the dems have been playing on this issue.
open up the process, make it transparent, and give all segments of society at seat at the negotiation table.
right, real soon.
hasn’t stopped them from using this very argument so far.
Hi! did I somehow set you off? I didn’t mean to. I get what you are saying but your tone seems a little pointed? Was that your intent? just checking!
i don’t expect the dems to do this unless they’re forced. i’d like to help force them.
Did W mention how happy slow-tracking this legislation is making al-Qaeda in Caracas? I haven’t heard the term al-Qaeda in Caracas used yet, but I’m predicting it is only a matter of days, pups…
i strongly disagree with this statement. before seattle, the biggest protests against our trade policies came from OUTSIDE the usa. north america civil society was late to the party.
because our trade policies are not about nationalism (nor, imo should they be). they are about the haves getting more and the have nots getting less.
Yeah except I don’t think he is capable of pronouncing that. He’ll probably call it Al Queda in Carcass.
There was a ridiculous ad in yesterday’s Washington Times by some industry group featuring Castro and Chavez arm in arm. The “bubble” over Chavez’s head said some thing like “Please don’t pass the Columbia Free Trade Bill.” Yes, they will find some way to tie this the the GWOT.
Thats Darth’s favorite dessert.
speaking of carcasses, I just discovered a blog that is asking some very scary questions about the cyanide, incinerator and carcasses being discovered at the YFZ compound. She wants the cement used in the buildings analyzed even.
what the democrats don’t understand, they are not the boss of us anymore, now we are the boss of them, we are watching them, unlike before, now they have have to do what we want othewise they will be out of work
Yup.
Suggested Nancy anti Columbia trade commercial
More trade with Columbia means more planes and ships going from there to America. Meaning we increase the odds that somebody might try and hide a kilo aboard somewhere.
George Bush has not hired enough people to inspect all the cargo coming into this country for Nuclear Weapons, let alone regular explosives or Al Quieda agents and now the wants to open the doors to Cocaine…doesn’t America have enough problems.
Agreed, in fact this needs to happen for all aspects of government and legislation, not just trade. We are supposed to be a democracy, democracy cannot work in secrecy.
I suspect it’s that Earl of H is as disgusted and pissed off about the situation as everyone here. IOW, it wasn’t you, but the perpetual BS that caused any edginess of tone.
YMMV, and not that E of H can’t answer for himself. Just trying to short-circuit any hurt feelings.
Selise @ 35, I think I’m missing a couple of steps in your train of thought here. Not disputing your points, but not seeing how they follow from what you quote.
FunnyDiva
Hi all. Please forgive me for going OT but, when thots involve human rights and that illegally warring nit & his vice, please keep the following link handy.
Thanks.
Link:
guardian link [fixed by mod]
Teaser:
God that is really scary.
I can’t get to the story.
1,809 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Thank you for this post…you have done a very careful and precise autopsy on this situation and in so doin’ you have given us the best look yet at how the corporatist leadership in the Democratic Party has worked for lo these last 27 years to implement friendly fascist economics. My question is, how ken we begin ta turn progressive guns onto the target of the elected Democratic leadership? It seems to me that in order for a Democratic President to really make a difference on all the issues from the war in Iraq to the economy, he (or she…shudder) will hafta take advantage of the first 100 days and ram a lotta legislation thru before the oligarchy has a chance ta reconstitute it’s political forces. To do this the Democrats are gunna hafta have a new leader in the Senate and at least 2 of the top 3 positions in the House will hafta change (givin’ Pelosi the benefit of the doubt).
Do you see that happenin’? Which candidate for the Democratic nomination offers the best chance of facilitating such intra-party change and puttin’ in place a “first 100 days” to initiate a new New Deal?
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND DON’T WAIT UNTIL YA SEE THE WHITES OF THEIR EYES ‘CUZ THEY’RE COMIN’ ATCHA FROM BEHIND!!!
Thanks for the headsup.
Try this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2…..rmy.ruling
Perhaps we disagree Selise. I think the spirit of the remark was that our trade policies do not favor American workers. (the article is in the context of american labor). I do think we ought to think about that.
But one cannot tell the context from the tiny bit I lifted. Sorry.
Suggested Anti Columbia Free Trade commercial for red states.
What is McCain thinking everytime we do a trade deal immigration from that country soars over here.
Now the Democrats believe that right now given how our economy is that NO we can not do this.
And even if we did everyone even immigrants should be paid the same wages and benefits for the same job.
The GOP has a history of favoring letting immigrants in but not paying them the same amount of money. The GOP wants to give your job away.
We Democrats think that if your boss and all the bosses had to pay immigrants the same wage for the same job then the bosses would not hire so many immigrants unless there really was a labor shortage.
Think America who do you trust to both protect your job and try and treat immigrants fair Us or them.
Thanks FD, that’s what I thought but I like to make sure…hate stepping on puppy paws.
TPM is reporting that Conyers wants to talk to the torture ‘Principals’…
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/188504.php
Bush will try to sell this trade deal as a way to save the economy
Our reply should be great under good idea from the best President on the economy since Herbert Hoover.
well, my train may be missing a few cars, so here goes the short version.
1. trade policies designed to benefit the elite (in general)
2. results in fucked up trade policy
3. people get pissed
4. politicians start with the nationalist rhetoric to distract attention from point 1.
5. as a result of point 4. we end up with nationalist trade policies – sometimes referred to as protectionism (although i don’t think this is accurate because protectionist trade policies encompass far more than what i would call nationalist trade policies). this is just more fucked up (but in a new way) trade policy
end result – fucked up trade policy and no one goes back to point 1. to figure out why and hold those responsible accountable for their actions.
start over again at point 1.
my conclusion: we have to break free from the nationalistic / elitist pendulum of trade policy.
OT but, well, creepy
Greenwarrior just called me from the Marriott in Rancho Cordova. Cheney is there now with half of the secret service. That means he is two miles from my house.
shudder. shudder. gag.
LS at 47, please try my link at 49. That one works.
Again, the gist of the story:
British court has ruled a soldier’s human rights were violated when he was sent into combat with defective equipment.
well, my train may be missing a few cars…
it’s all caboose-key theater! :~)
duck and cover, mary
no they don’t.
and they don’t favor the poor african infected with hiv either.
but they do favor the CEO of the big pharmaceutical companies. regardless of which country the corporation is headquartered.
Quick delete your hard drive if you have said any Snark about Darth.
Thanks. I’ll go read it.
*groan*!!!
Yup, he’s raising money for Lungren (gag).
we luvs our mods! Thanks much for saving me from myself.
You may be within two miles of Darth but it sounds like Greenwarrior is in the same building. You should steel yourself and go rescue her from the dark side of the force.
what up adie
MaryMCC duck and cover… there may be a nuke coming your way /s
here’s another try.
the american worker is righteously pissed.
the pols don’t want you to be pissed at them, for selling you out to the CEOs and their proxies who sit at the trade negotiation table. so what do they try to do? they try to scapegoat the workers in other countries.
because their worst nightmare is when we work together with out natural allies across borders.
don’t let them do it. don’t let them get away with scapegoating anyone. hold them accountable.
does that make any sense?
The “American Worker” elected these morons twice. Xin loi.
Get a picture of them together Darth has worse approval ratings than Bush or Congress it would be a Kiss of Death this year.
Cause right now we are looking at a Perfect Storm an after Watergate election, a Reagan or FDR sized rout for the opposing party, and Cheney is the lighting rod!
She is praying for his heart to snap to put him out of our misery.
The only good thing about it is that it means Lungren is in trouble.
mapquest says I’m 6.8 miles away. Guess I’m ok as long as the winds don’t blow my way.
Are you in Sac?
Carmichael
Dakine was in SAC!
You don’t need a weatherman to say which way the wind blows!
Darth was spotted in Oakland last fall.
Howdy Raven. I miss you guys. Been bizzy.
Check out my link to Guardian article, either at #45 or #49. I’m so mad, I botched the link, and the sweet mod helped untangle me.
lol!
OK, no jokin around on the new thread!
Oh. I remember you now.
You don’t need a weatherman to
sayknow which way the wind blows!~Bob Dylan
Fixed it for ya
SAC trained killer I was.
well excuuuse me! I was on the BONG at the time!
Bombs away LeMay!
Ah. Thank you. That’s much clearer. I suspect you and dosido and the author of the editorial are all on the same page. Perhaps a “ordinary”/”non-elite” modifier of Americans was assumed and, thus, left out. That’s certainly how I interpreted the quote: American trade policy doesn’t adequately consider ordinary Americans.
dosido: Know what you mean about steppin’ on puppy-paws (and I use that description affectionately). good on you for asking for clarification. There are certainly more than enough reasons for us all to be kind of edgy and upset–reasons that have _nothing_ to do with anyone here and everything to do with current events.
FunnyD
So Miss Nancy’s been on quite the shopping spree, eh?
The occupation, it’s not a war folks, of Iraq…..’put it on my charge card’.
FISA…(pending) on her statement.
‘Fair Trade’….’Why, that will look so fabulous with my new red, deficit shoes!’
So as we ramp up to November McSame asks, ‘What ya got in those bags Bitch?’
And guess what?
He hands Barry or the Hill their ass running on the quite reasonable basis that despite all their promises the Dems have delivered nothing. Not one useful thing to those who worked hard to get them their majority.
And…please…
STFU about the minimum wage.
Nice job, kudos to the ‘Do-Nothing’ Dems ‘led’ by ‘Charge Card’ Nancy.
Frankly, if progressives don’t get behind Sheehan and go after this dumb cluck ‘Madame Speaker’ I will be on pissed of progressive.
Can ya hear me Jane!
Yes. It makes much sense.
Divert, divide and conquer.
FunnyD
Dick-o-lantern, looking hale
…
then, rather stale.
dam. beavers.
ya don’t have ta guess what the grin looks like when it rots, just check out the real squash.
exactly right, imo.
and you said it much better than i did. thanks!
lol. exactly right also!
In the post Jane said:
Or it could be:
stamping his baby Gap cowboy boots…
Before we start cheering for Nancy Pelosi standing up to W, we ought to remember that she is in large part responsible for Bush and Cheney continuing in office without being tried for the high crimes and misdemeanors they have most certainly committed. In short, she is still obstructing justice. A plague on all their houses…
I read where you met Rahm, Jane, and you took his picture with Howie.
Did Rahm give you the finger?
Oh, no. I agree that “trade” agreements primarily promote the interests of American companies overseas’ ambitions and rarely work to benefit US workers. They’re a form of “trickle down” economics, being so familiar a piece of legislation, they can and often do hide very untrady things.
Which is, I’m guessing, why she did it: Because now anyone who backs it will have officially gone on record as screwing labor.
This may well be Pelosi’s Poison Pill to kill this once and for all when it comes up for a vote.
Hi guys, just circling back after a tough afternoon. thanks for the kind replies. just want to let you know I caught them. ;)