Eureka!

ES!

Mmmmm. Mint jelly.

It’s been a long time since I had lamb and mint jelly. Childhood memories…

Heh, ya beat me neuro! 8-P

My poodles get nicked at the groomer from time to time. The barber nicks his customers. But sheep are different, ya know.

And then I see people nicking things at the store.

Where will this end?

I even nick myself shaving every once in a while. Is this self-cruelty?

I happen to side with the shearers, what’s an odd nick or two… It wouldn’t be good if they didn’t get sheared for the hot summer days…!

hi ES.

Oh, the shear idiocy of it all!

Loohoo,

your brother feels my pain? What does this mean?

Shearly you jest.

Hmm I dunno. Sheep are pretty damn stiupid animals (sorry when we lived in montana, we had a bunch of sheep that instead of moving up to higher ground when the pasture flooded, they stayed there and drowned.

Good Evening everyone…. Just came back from hearing retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern speak ….. wow…now need a really stiff drink…

I stopped the truck one time to help a farmer get his sheep out of the rain. We were afraid the wool would shrink and strangle them.

It seemed appropriate to link to this tonight.

dugg it for you ES …. Love the choice of music. We listen to CSNY a lot in this house!!

having long since decided that this is a bad-hair-life, i’m generally easy-going about hair cuts, go to a beautician school cuz i figure i’m good practice. So i get the occasional snip on ear or neck … didn’t know i should be protesting the cruelty of it all!

Having known a few sheep, I wouldn’t say they are stupid, merely lacking in the capacity for independent thought. This is much like certain sectors of the population in general, for instance those who voted for Bush.

I can’t even imagine…

Opening night at Chase Field….. scooted out of the event before all those fans decided to clog the freeways…. lots of fireworks at the end of the game…

Think of how much more Llamas will suffer because of this. /s

Per George W. Bush:

“Well, we started to connect the dots in order to protect the American people.” Bush told ABC News White House correspondent Martha Raddatz. “And yes, I’m aware our national security team met on this issue. And I approved.”

Now let’s be clear on the meaning of “this.” In fact, he approved their recommendations for torture.

The fact is that we have traced the authorization for torture all the way to the Oval Office. The only remaining issue is to bring the perpetrators to justice.

Investigate. Interrotate. Indict. Convict. Incarcerate. ~~~ModNote: Edited for content.~~~

Most excellent…saw your greeting and weather report a few days ago. Didn’t exactly brighten the skies overhead but did make me smile. Thanks.

You the Dali Llama???

good night friends.

Thank you RBG! I don’t get many links over at my bloglet. I should probably throw in more over here. I get the idea the ladies are indifferent to me these days.

‘night Betsy. See you Sunday.

“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Is the hoopla over this quote by Obama something or a lot about nothing?

Deos he wear cashmere?

Senior, you are always singing my song!

Ray McGovern says that it is 50/50 that BushCo will attack Iran from Nov to Jan…. going for another shot of brandy… anyone want anything?

yep :)

looking forward to it.

Many people have a hard time dealing with the truth. Especially when it is easier, and often advantageous, to just attack people.

Yse, sir. But you’ll notice that my #24 got disappeared. I was testing the mods and they’re right on top of their stuff.

Dam good question. When I see him next I will aske him /S

And let me add, “God bless ‘em.”

lmao

Yeah.
Hard refresh, everybody.

Ya gotta bring your A-game, wigwam, if ya wanna slip something by RBG…! ;-)

OT and apropos of not much, I have come to the conclusion that the greatest invention of mankind is the back scratcher.

Or, LM! ;-)

well, can’t argue with you on the sheep that you have known but the ones I knew were pretty damn stupid

My pleasure. Don’t get a chance to visit as often as I like.

And I’d bet a tidy sum it’s not indifference, overloaded is much more likely.

Hi ndfg! Yes you should be loudly protesting the cruelty and injustice of it all.
I myself would picket our local beauty school except it’s on a certain street where guys come to pick up ladies on the street corner, and I don’t wanna infringe on their territory.

Brandy? Are you serious? Try this. Take a dollar bill and douse it with brandy. Set it on fire. When the brandy is gone, the flames go out.

Disclaimer. I read about this and have never tried it. I do not know if you have to wait for the brandy to dry or not. You know why? Because I have never had brandy in my house. I’m a whiskey man, through and through.

boa noite, betsy

nahant, we double-dugg again.

Maybe it would be a good idea, to avoid this occurring, if before posting a Digg link in a comment, we refreshed the front page and checked to see who the official submitter was…

Dang was my response that bad… I was leaving every thing up to the reader to fill in the blanks :>(

huhu, bush, em pale

just give me anything and oh, no glass, i have a straw

I sure didn’t see your digg when I got here and you weren’t listed in the possible duplicates… I did make sure… well let the Lurking decide which one was first and delete the other OHTA??

I think it’s time to flood these guys with torture and other war crimes info each and every time an article is published about it.

we talked about it downstairs and i will give you my opinion (epu’d from downstairs)

I just really want to sit in front of Hillary and McCain, look them both straight in the eye and ask:

People are losing their mfing homes, folks can’t afford to heat their homes, food prices, oil prices are spiraling out of control, the whole fucking federal gov’t has been corrupted with criminals that have victimized the very people you want to lead and your flapping off at the jaw about the ‘bitter folks’
Are you fucking kidding me?

the digg that made it to the top of the post is the neuro digg. since that one will be clicked more than the link in the comments, the comments digg link will be disabled.

I just read that and died.

Yes, I know. But to us sensitive poet, philosopher/playwrights, it is all about us. The angst and insecurities contrive the angles of viewpoint yet diminish the self-worth of the same. I admire and eschew those that can write for filthy lucre.

Brandy is the hardest liqueur I have in the house… after hearing about the Bush Crime Family details from a honest CIA analyst….

Anyone know about the USS Liberty? Something about Israel & Adm.McCain – McBush’s poppy…. sinking a ship and a coverup?

Thanks Suz wasn’t trying to start problems…

I like that idea.

Investigate. Interrotate. Indict. Convict. Incarcerate. ~~~ModNote: Edited for content.~~~

I’m not sure about that. Don’t get me wrong, no criticism of the necessary function of the mods, but it seems like censoring out the offending word/words and leaving the rest of the statement intact, or just deleting altogether is more appropriate than changing/substituting words, if that is what happened.

Let me guess… …you changed “bludgen to death with moldy potato” into “incarcerate”.

That was it, huh?

i know.. its that using different categories thing too

THE place to digg war crimes!

no, it was removing the offending word or phrase.

“…flog with a wet noodle.”

I saw that I was thinking about the great toonz!

My brother has worked for my cousin for the last 20 years. He lives at the “yard” and is dependent on my cousin. He works heavy equipment. It sounds like your situation, perhaps. No? I love my brother so much…

you were doing a simultaneous digg, so neither one of you was able to see the other as a duplicate

you mad diggers you!

At least 50 lashes… Oh and make sure it is well cooked /s

And then there are those who do it for the love of it.

my point is that after you submit your digg, but before posting a link in the comments, refresh your page to see if there is a “dugg” at the top of the page that wasn’t there when you went to do your digg…if there is, click on it and check to see if it is yours or somebody else’s…if it shows you as the submitter, you can go ahead and put a link in the comments.

Seems like that ought to work…

I guess begs what do we put in the hole we dug??

Not, bludgen, bludgeon… spelling issue I guess…! ;-)

moldy potatoes, wet noodles, John Yoo

oh crap I did it again

but just putting him in the hole is not violent.

No violence of any kind occurs in the hole.

And it ain’t that deep.

If this keeps up I am going to be left holding a large jar of mint jelly.

Could be worse: sitting on the curb drinking Woolite.

neither is boosh’s brain

Damn…that was pretty good, but I meant to link to this one.

i’m still biting at the bit to show mr wobbs those awful mccain girl videos.

It’s about happiness. I just hope your cousin does not take your brother for granted, and he is well enumerated for his 20 years of service. Change, even for the better, is hard.

When I moved my family from a real crappy apartment complex in a bad part of town, to an expansive four bedroom house in a very good part of town, I did it with great trepidation. It was a way good move, but still it scared the shit out of me.

I’ve heard of the Liberty. Wiki has the basics.

standing on chair clapping

wigwam, I don’t know, obviously, why the good mods had to restrict you, W. needs to own up.!! Life is fucked for him, and that’s the way it is. He’s led a life of “fun” and it’s caught up with him. Life happens.

That was a great post.

I’ve turned the corner towards ‘08 and set my sights on the blatant homophobe and science denier, Senator James “Baghdad Bob” Inhofe. With any luck, my nine lieutenants, or heros (inside joke) will throw in and we can get him bounced. The nightmarish beginning of this century and all the horrors that have occurred since has been due to one man and one vote.

Great post.

I’ve been dreaming of war crimes trials for years, and now every day it seems a bit more possible…

I’m not stupid, I know it’s still not likely, but it’s more likely today than yesterday…

here is obama’s reply to the faux outrage about his comments on the ‘bitter’ folk in some parts of PA

“Senator Obama has said many times in this campaign that Americans are understandably upset with their leaders in Washington for saying anything to win elections while failing to stand up to the special interests and fight for an economic agenda that will bring jobs and opportunity back to struggling communities. And if John McCain wants a debate about who’s out of touch with the American people, we can start by talking about the tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans that he once said offended his conscience but now wants to make permanent.”

more here

can i add, why is this even newsworthy?
can i also add, kudos that he only went after mccain and didn’t say anything nasty about his democratic opponent.

I’ll be seriously enraged if we have another Ford moment, with the next Prez…!

I am glad it made the news.. HELL yes we’re bitter!

here is a link

I’m with you. Caught a little of this goofiness on CNN and thought WTF? I don’t get it. He spoke the truth and didn’t insult anyone.

The media is terrified of an Obama presidency.

i mean why is the faux outrage news. i think he just spoke the truth but the condscending attitude he is beibng accused of is well…ummm…silly

RBG,

I’m blushing over here. Seeing these old posts drug up, I cannot help but think of these “latter day” bloggers at fdl like Pheonix woman or Blue Texan that have truly done yeomans work. You encourage me. Thank you.

you should make an Obama girl vid :P

Thanks.

Dang meant to include the link to the memorial site also

Twas a sad day for sure when that action took place :>(

That was a wonderful post Oilfieldguy! I like finding an old post that I missed, but I’m sorry I missed it the first time.

Bush has similarly made me much more active in my government. I owe that to him… …and Firedoglake, where I found convenient lists of my representatives telephone numbers!

And terrified of reporting real news.. Bush, “yes, I knew about the torture meetings, and I approved.”

Hallelujah, pass the beer!

And theOtherWa…. no mention of poppy Adm McCain…. Ray McGovern said that he met the sole survivor and was told the story first hand. Adm McCain did the post incident investigation … cough * cough… coverup…

Well, I’m very practiced at screaming for impeachment at this point, so, I guess I would just get to keep it up next year…

…lucky me.

In Iraq it is called “the awakening.” In the Bronx it is called a protection racket, you know, when you pay someone so they don’t bust-up your shit.

That was a serious post. I was absolutely entranced by the Gore v. Bush drama. Since then I have been in search of information. Jane and Christy give hints to where information can be found. That is all anyone can do.

umm no way. someone is filling that role. i support him (third pick is the charm) but i’m no video chica

Holy crap! Never heard that. Makes sense though, McCain’s father was still in the service then.

Twas a cover up completely. A fine teacher for Johnnyboy… Think Keating five…. I wonder else John has covered up… oh yeah the whole Abramoff thingy

Ok, that’s enough for my little pea brain for tonight. Sleep well everyone, see you tomorrow.

Aloha, TOW!

IIRC, Firedog Ed*ard Teller knows a lot about the USS Liberty. (it ain’t pretty)

A game for firepups.

If you had one question to ask the Presidential pretenders, that would lead the news on all major networks, what would you ask and who would you question?

Only one question and only one pretender. Please, none of these stupid run-on compound,complex questions that Sean Hannity is famous for. KISS (keep it simple stupid)

Why would be my question, ofg. leaving the subject open, it would be very interesting to see what his response subject would be.. where he would take it.

I was absolutely entranced by the Gore v. Bush drama.

I thought I was as well. Then I saw MMoore’s movie and I realized that I had missed a detail – Al Gore, presiding over the joint session, and ruling against speeches by angry House Democrats who pleaded (and were found wanting) for one Senator to join in the protest of the Florida result.

I was riven by the imagine of Chimpy and Shooter, smoking cigars and sipping Cognac in stuffed leather chairs in front of a tv, laughing at their awesome fortune.

Irony truly died that day.

Damn KO is on now….. couldn’t watch it at 5pm…. for some reason…. THAT was the only cable network out of my whole line up was out…. funny it was for the whole Count down hour….. that one single network was black….hmm need to get my tin foil hat cleaned or something…

boa noite, TOW

My question gets asked before Suzanne’s….

“Do you believe in the Rule of Law?”

A form of death favored by one named Vald, for the sake of alliteration. The moderators (RBG?) did right, and I have no complaint. They are saints.

I would ask Senator Clinton.. Senator, you support and raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for Senator Mark Pryors campaign.. as we all know Mark is a former Dem member of the gang of fourteen, anti choice, anti habeas corpus, and voted for many federalist judges nominations as well as both Gonzales and Mukasey. So how do we ignore all of that and consider you to be reasonably sane in your judgment?

I would ask, any of them, what they have done to provide a check on executive overreach.

Make that “Vlad” not “Vald”.

How soon do we leave Iraq… For Obama…

here’s a rather simple question.

Are you/will you fully restore the Consitution and do evrything in your power to punish the fuckers who used it to wipe their ass?

Well, Bill Moyers coming up, I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

Much has been written about whether John Yoo, BushCo’s designated
defendant, should be terminated by the University of California.

Since university faculty must be free to express unpopular opinions,
it is particularly important that faculty not be subject to
intimidation by popular opinion. Nevertheless, every university has a
faculty code of conduct. Specifically, all universities recognize
that professional and/or research misconduct is unacceptable.

It is not unusual for say a biochemistry professor who’s on leave to
an industrial and/or public laboratory to come under pressure from
superiors to vouch for the efficacy and/or safety of an experimental
drug — many of millions of dollars are at stake.

In every respectable university it is “unacceptable behavior” for a
faculty member to issue bogus research findings in support of an
untruth. And, that is precisely the situation in which Professor Yoo
found himself within the Bush Administration. And, he caved, i.e., he
issued bogus research findings to supoort his superiors. A biochemist
who did that would be fired from the University.

Are the standards at Boalt Hall so much lower than the rest of the
U.C. System that the issuance of bogus research, even while on leave,
can be tolerated by its professors?

boa noite, ct

Awesome. Why? That is a Rorschach question to the max! Just ask why and step back from the microphone. Watch the candidate determine in their own world experience what the question means. Damn Suzanne, I would hate to face the likes of you consulting an opponent on the campaign trail.

Miss Dog says it is time for bed….. she’s the boss…. see ya tomorrow… Nite all…

dayum, i have some googling to do *writing key info down*

re: uss liberty.

george kenny interviews “Captain Ward Boston (USN, Ret.), then chief counsel to the Navy’s Board of Inquiry which white-washed the affair.”

… disclaimer: i don’t know what happened, but this is, imo, an interview worth listening to.

boa noite, katy

Thoughts on sheep…having been a “care taker” to two sheep in the hopes that they would offer companionship to my horse. They aren’t too bright but when they get an idea it’s hard as hell to divert them. Food…Food…Food..
But they did like to play run-around-the-barn- chase- me games. They’d prod the horse into playing.
Maybe it was a false sense of purpose?
Or maybe even sheep can be bored enough to take an action?

Evening selise.
Nice day for you, I imagine.

Hey Selise. Nice work! Congratulations!

Or maybe even sheep can be bored enough to take an action?

teh funny..)

Do we deserve cradle-to-grave health care?

nice day? g. w. bush admits to being torturer in chief and not only is not arrested, he’s still president.

little gray cells are on overload trying to comprehend this world.

It’s much worse than one short question could possibly demonstrate… and she knows it.

So?

alcohol doesn’t help with the comprehension. trust me on that

Those little gray cells had themselves a good time before they went into overdrive, though.

UPDATE: The commenter selise, one of the most reliable sources around, has posted a transcript of the Leahy-Mukasey exchange that is somewhat different (and even more damning) than the source quoted above. Mukasey claims that his only point was that no warrant should be required for foreign-to-foreign calls, but virtually nobody contests that.

okay. umm can i be in the room when this question is asked? i just want to see facial expression.

LOL.

thanks for the laugh. and for explaining what newt was, i think, referring to.

((selise))
congrats!! good job!

Do we deserve cradle-to-grave health care?

Without question IMHO. The most primitive tribes give care to their sick and elderly. The most advanced industrial societies give such care. So far as I can tell, we and the banana republics are the only places where this is a question.

Many good questions for our pretenders three. My question is—

In your Presidency, would prosecuting prior administration officials be damaging to Democracy, or would it be Democracies finest hour?

Ask any of them. I don’t give a shit.

here is a sobering thought (well for me)

as bad as this revelation by bush is, you know others will follow and will be worse

I have asked both her and Wes Clark… they refuse to acknowledge the question, much less attempt to answer.

Dude!!! You ask the question of the hour.

i was just pissed off at c-span for not covering that hearing. how many times have we posted audios of hearings – just to make them available to more people?

i thought wes clark’s visit here was very informative (and did not reflect well on him).

Yes simply because every person in this country is a national treasure

do tell, why not?

tenacious discovery.

Just for context, ES’s question was:

I would ask Senator Clinton.. Senator, you support and raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for Senator Mark Pryors campaign.. as we all know Mark is a former Dem member of the gang of fourteen, anti choice, anti habeas corpus, and voted for many federalist judges nominations as well as both Gonzales and Mukasey. So how do we ignore all of that and consider you to be reasonably sane in your judgment?

YES!

wow, kpig has totally changed their web page

The HamCam!

As anti Hillary as I am now.. It took a lot to get me here.. I’ve known them for nearly 33 years. We’ve attended several of the same weddings and funerals. My ex wife baby sat Chelsea… Many close friends have held parties and fund raisers in their homes for the Clinton’s while I was kid playing in the yard.. They had to work long and hard to run me off, but run me off they did.

But my question is for the presidential candidates.
;-)

Amen.

No, of the election. I posted the question at the worthless Kos convention and never heard shit back from it. Lets get real folks. If folks are not prosecuted and jailed for crimes committed against America, then precedent is set, moving the goal posts further into neocon territory.

Couch the question.

Do you believe in the founding document of America, called the constitution, and swear to defend and protect it from all enemies, foreign and domestic, or do you swear to be a big fukkin wuss and only hammer brown people with oil?

and the choir says, AMEN

wow. any one particular thing that did it for you? or just tired of it all?

welp, if nothing else then I am sure the media machine will, at least, help to impeach the next democrat elected president.

Do you believe in the founding document of America, called the constitution, and swear to defend and protect it from all enemies, foreign and domestic, or do you swear to be a big fukkin wuss and only hammer brown people with oil?

And, Dude, that is the question of the hour. As for me:

Investigage. Interrogate. Inquire. Impeach. Indict. Convict. Incarcerate. And whatever else seems appropriate.

Long continuous slide to the right with no backbone for the center or left…or we the people, or rule of law.

What would happen to me if I called

As anti Hillary as I am now.. It took a lot to get me here.. I’ve known them for nearly 33 years. We’ve attended several of the same weddings and funerals. My ex wife baby sat Chelsea… Many close friends have held parties and fund raisers in their homes for the Clinton’s while I was kid playing in the yard.. They had to work long and hard to run me off, but run me off they did.

Wow!!! That’s big.

I’ve had serious problems with both Obama and Clinton, but when I had to cast a vote, it was for Obama. And, everything I’ve seen since has confirmed my judgement. (Cognitive dissonance?)

for the questions he refused to answer.

wes clark said we need to have a national dialogue – and then refused to engage in any real discussion.

I still like Suzanne’s one word question of why? The head just reals with possibilities.

That would do it for me as well.

At the moment, it’s the choices that she and her campaign are making that leave a bad taste in my mouth and an unsettling feeling in my spirit.

i confess to being really tired of being told that sexism is the source of anti-clinton views.

ahhh the bullshit money line

yeah, anytime a politician pulls that crap, i basically write them off.

thanks for the link

ahh but sir elton john said that that’s why we didn’t vote for her. i guess that makes the folks that didn’t vote for barack racist

If folks are not prosecuted and jailed for crimes committed against America, then precedent is set

amen.

i didn’t know that.

…. well, i should say that since i don’t have cable tv and rarely listen to corp tv news, i expect i’m missing most of the bs that gets thrown at either candidate.

(Cognitive dissonance?)

That, and winning for winnings sake I suppose.. Self serving without the ability to look up from the details and remember the big picture.. Oath of office, etc. I don’t think they are much different than most failures from a motive standpoint (greed, and doing compromising far to much just to stay in power for powers sake)… It’s just so frustrating to see so many others refuse to acknowledge they are failures in terms of where we are today.

Anyway, I didn’t mean to get to far into the whole ordeal.. just didn’t want my original critique to seem flippant even though it was based on solid facts.

ok, pups, that’s it for me tonight. g’nite all

yeah, our political discourse is way past stupid.

boa noite, suzanne

So, try this for an issue: http://www.motherjones.com/new…..oblem.html

nite suzanne

My spoke for Hillary:

This may come as a surprise to many here, but I do not see Hillary as the anti-christ. We Democrats are sick and tired of losing, yet we screech violently at one who tippytoes through the minefield of primary politics. We call them names like “triangulator” because they are being careful.

Lighten up. Hillary would be ten-fold better than a third Bush term, which would be what would happen if McTwitchy were elected. Obama may be a better choice, or a worse choice than Hillary, but the difference is not worth killing your firstborn over.

If McCain wins, more Americans will die. Pretty simple.

Nite Suzanne

aside to say thanks to tw3k and newt (my tutors).

…. nite suz!

Thank you,selise, for the info.
It’s so hard to know all the layers, and remain polite in ignorant-everyday society. Actually, it sucks!!!

Hillary would be ten-fold better than a third Bush term, which would be what would happen if McTwitchy were elected.

Hear! Hear!

why does that make me think of the MocOS car crash crash sound *g

agreed. i don’t even dislike her.

i just want the damn primary to be over with becuase i have my dagger (figurative speech, mods) poised to strike mccain

The Iraq war analogy;

A driver crashes a car, sustaining massive injuries and is comatose. The doctor carefully examines the patient and declares the cure to be more crashes. The hospital attendants dutifully load up the comatose patient in a car and continually push him off a cliff…

Goodnite pups

boa noite, ofg

well pups, mr wobbs has finally made it home from the bachelor party. i bid you all, boa noite

Whoops, why are we saying it’s better to have OUR Liar than THEIR Liar???
If the truth is a vague theory…
Hillary had my respect and squandered it. Why should I allow her to run on the “better than the lying McCain” platform ?
Let’s not cave to our fear of McCain. Make Hillary accountable for her total bullshit stories.
Would you be comfortable bringing a friend to a family dinner who proceeded to tell absolute bullshit stories to your family, that you knew were lies?

g’ nite ofg.. always good to see ya

I apologize for being a broken record, but per Sun Tzu (400BC):

When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming,
[…] you will exhaust your strength, and if the campaign is
protracted, the resources of the state will not be equal to the
strain. […] In all history, there is no instance of a country
having benefited from prolonged warfare. Only one who knows the
distasterous effects of a long war can realize the supreme
importance of rapidity in bringing it to a close.

The point is that a foreign military adventure has been defeated when “you […] exhaust your strength [and] the resources of the state will not be equal to the strain.

nite oilfieldguy

Iraq war analogy: rapist says it’s my manly duty to finish her off.

Whoops, why are we saying it’s better to have OUR Liar than THEIR Liar???

i don’t care so much about the party. none of them are “my liar”

but, in the end, there are lives in the balance – people who don’t have a vote, but for whom our choice of president will mean the difference between life and death.

if i think one candidate will kill half as many people as the other? well, that’s where my vote will go.

Who needs Iraq when we’ve got Bakken?

All else being equal, a Dem will probably make better SCOTUS appointments.

But only 1% of what I was hoping for.

Per the Wikipedia there are 300BBls down there, i.e., a 40-year U.S. supply at current rates. But damn, there only about 4BBls are recoverable with current technology.

oh.. I have been meaning to look into some of the claims made here.

Unfortunately the USGS issued their report this morning: http://links.mkt753.com/ctt?kn…..xNTcwMzcS1

Yes, I agree. It just kills me to keep lowering the bar.
I have older teens who are becoming involved in the politics of their future, it hurts to watch a strong woman choosing a weak, selfish path.
How does one explain her actions to young people?
It’s okay to lie if it makes the story better? Give me a break!!!
Why did she think this behavior was acceptable? How can she, as a parent, make her daughter comfortable with this crap?

Thanks.. very interesting.. Tin foil, I know, but I cannot trust a Bushco led USGS 100 percent.

dam, tcm is like in back to back heston mode :/

i think bill clinton told us a lot of lies too. i have hope for chelsea clinton – but only because she is still young and has plenty of time to reconsider her choice of occupation, etc.

Agreed! It’s a very open question wrt how recoverable that stuff is, and at what price.

4O years would buy us a lot of slack, or would repay our national debt about ten times over.

No founder of the DLC is a true Democrat. But Bill Clinton is the best Republican president we’ve had since Abe Lincoln.

since ike.

Reduce MIC 75 to 85 percent, no energy expenditure on importing oil, while really reducing our dependence on oil and maintaining sustainable extraction cost here.. a twenty year supply in the Dakotas could change our world forever. Imagine how hard Bush and Cheney would fight to keep those figures skewed if in fact they are much better.

Yeah, but it’s hard to reconsider your choices as a young woman when you’re making an alleged $200,000 a year at a hedge fund job you’re not actually qualified for.
Whores happen.

since ike.

Yup. I stand corrected.

My friends who support Ron Paul are already looking into that. ;-)

Ha!

Well folks.. think I will call it a night!

Don’t forget to email war crimes news to the international court!

g’ nite

really?

G’nite ES!

nite eureka

nite es and all. i’m off too.

I think I learned that here.
But it might have been at another qualified site.
I try not to slum…

i meant the other part

Oh, you mean the definition of “whore”?
Got me !!

katymine April 11th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
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Ray McGovern says that it is 50/50 that BushCo will attack Iran from Nov to Jan…. going for another shot of brandy… anyone want anything?
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if Obama/Clinton win he’ll do it. if St. John wins he’ll extract a promise it’ll happen in ‘09. that’s the 50/50 ….

Opponents paint Obama as elitist

http://news.google.com/news/ur…..9hP604Mtjg

Ray McGovern says that it is 50/50 that BushCo will attack Iran from Nov to Jan…. going for another shot of brandy… anyone want anything?

50/50 means he knows nothing more that you and me. But, yes, I believe I’ll go for another…

I’m bitter, pissed off, vexxed, angry, upset, miffed, flummoxed, antagonistic, grumpy, of a mind to keelhaul someone, have a taste in my mouth like bitter herbs, frustrated, Sysyphean, cantankerous…for very good reason.

I’m surprised that the other Democratic candidate doesn’t share these feelings. Maybe she’s all copasetic with the Constitution being treated like a wad of toilet paper on the floor of a stall in a Minneapolis airport mens room. Maybe the fact that 4000 American servicemen and women have lost their lives isn’t upsetting. Or the fact that hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died because of a war undertaken under false pretences. That life is so rosy when hundreds of thousands of borrowers face onerous and usurious interest rates and fear foreclosure and loss of their homes.

If you aren’t pissed off about this stuff you don’t give a F*CK about our country! What planet are these people living on? And Obama’s right…people who don’t see hope from the people who actually are responsible for these disasters of policy frequently scapegoat the wrong people, or seek solace in a bottle or pills, or see the government as the enemy or fear an Armageddon and go survivalist. Or they deny the material, and that man can actually do ANYTHING about the problems, and seek supernatural solutions. This stuff isn’t “looking down” on people, it’s recognizing historical realities. In times of crisis and cultural change people go on witch hunts and reject the world, or fall for get-rich schemes.

i don’t think either dem candidate shares your feelings. did you hear obama’s floor statement on the MCA? that wasn’t the statement of someone who was pissed off about what the MCA meant for habeas corpus, fair trials and accountability.

Good morning selise et al.

Nope neither candidate has the will or gumption to stand up and shout loudly for what is right they only do what their corporate masters tell them. The best they can do is snipe at each other like teenyboppers over candy. Neither will stand up and call for impeachment, will condemn the politicization of the DOJ, will call out bushco for condoning and ordering torture, will speak of war profiteering, of private contract murders, rapes and theft. They are gutless the both of them and not worth the snot in a hanky.

except when we compare them to mccain…. then they look better.

As my dear mother often said “the head of the donkey looks better than the other end but it is still a donkey”

brilliant!

Mornin’ all!

Good Morning everyone.

Good morning all.

Thunderstorms, with lightening, last night, around 3am. Somewhat unusual for this time of year in mid-Hudson.

I don’t know, I kind of agree with the activists

why wouldn’t there be a time penalty for nicking the aniaml?

that would make the competition far more fair, the professionals really would have a huge edge and the entire affair would be more enjoyable

so, I agree with the activists, sorry

Good Morning but it might be goodnight for me, I’ve been up since the thunderstorm-
ended up with a bed full of scaredy cats and a big scaredy dog, (so naturally I broke into a chorus of Raindrops on Roses)
but now I’m really sleepy.

and if this CSNY song isn’t my dfh brother’s old theme song, I don’t know what is.

Good morning, pups. It’s Collins and Herbert today in the NYT. La Collins’ column is titled “The Revenge of Lacey Davenport.” Her theory is that the age issue is not all that huge a deal when it comes to legislators. Mr. Herbert says we are “Losing Our Will,” and that the war in Iraq stands like a boulder in the road, blocking progress on so many important issues that are crucial to our viability as a society.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and I’ve got French toast made with challah. I’ve got to get started on some work because I’ve got lots of errands later… Have a great day.

‘mornin’ pups. Just read the Herbert column in the Times. A sobering suumary of where we are now.

Must reading.

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and I’ve got French toast made with challah.

Lordy that sounds good. It can only be beaten by brioche french toast.

It is raining cats and dogs here (activists watch out!!) and my spouse’s car has decided not to work oh well…

perris@233. I was brought up on a farm so a little nick here and there doesn’t bother me, or the sheep, one bit. If you have ever nicked yourself while shaving you know it is no big deal and hell it is a lot better than waterboarding the fleecy ovine

So on CSPAN, the guest (former State Dept) sez that Zalmay Khalilzad is thinking of running for prez of Afghanistan. Talk about puppets!

perris@233. I was brought up on a farm so a little nick here and there doesn’t bother me, or the sheep, one bit. If you have ever nicked yourself while shaving you know it is no big deal and hell it is a lot better than waterboarding the fleecy ovine

I understand, but why wouldn’t the competition be even better with time penalties?

nick no blood, second occurance, one second, nick with blood first occurance, 5 seconds, second occurance 10 seconds

I see what you are saying but no reason not to have time penalties

In shearing competition there are penalties for nicking…. and yes they are time penalties

The following will be used as a score card by the judges in scoring contestants:
a Time…..20
b Absence of second cuts in fleece…..20
c Condition of fleece…..20
d Absence of cuts on sheep…..15
e Manner of handling sheep…..15
f Appearance of shorn sheep…..10
TOTAL……….100
The average of the score for the sheep shorn will be computed for each contestant by the judge. The average of the scores allowed by the judge shall be the official score allowed each contestant.

aha, perfect, thanx for that info nomolos, I see my instincts are correct

as always