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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1383347</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;…”One can only imagine how the prospect of a President Obama fit this guy’s worldview.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Obama isn’t Black. He insists he isn’t. He has risen above it, haven’t you heard?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>…”One can only imagine how the prospect of a President Obama fit this guy’s worldview.”</p>
<p>But Obama isn’t Black. He insists he isn’t. He has risen above it, haven’t you heard?</p>
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		<title>By: xargaw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382836</link>
		<dc:creator>xargaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave Reicherts claim to fame is that when he was a law enforcement officer he was instrumental in catching the Green River killer, although it did take around twenty years to solve the case. I think Darcy has a good chance to unseat him because Western Washington is heavily liberal, however, that area is tricky. He really is a know-nothing suck up and hopefully his career will soon come to an end.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Reicherts claim to fame is that when he was a law enforcement officer he was instrumental in catching the Green River killer, although it did take around twenty years to solve the case. I think Darcy has a good chance to unseat him because Western Washington is heavily liberal, however, that area is tricky. He really is a know-nothing suck up and hopefully his career will soon come to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382754</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks to Dave for guiding us to Ross Douthat’s review of Rick Perlstein’s &lt;em&gt;Nixonland&lt;/em&gt; in TheAtlantic.com.  Mr. Douthat’s critique starts off unseriously, transitions to analytical praise, and ends by revealing his reverence for Nixon, a bias he ught to have revealed as quickly as the one he attributes to Perlstein (a “decidedly left-wing historian”).  Orwell would have told him to trust his readers and let the author’s words speak for themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Douthat describes the “riotous” 1968 Chicago Democratic convention, but never makes clear his pun.  He jumps straight to how well Perlstein recounts its television coverage, skipping the famously brutal treatment of demonstrators by Chicago’s mayor and police, and Nixon’s purported role in encouraging that.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He gives Perlstein good marks, especially for his discussions of Bobby Kennedy and Richard Nixon, but sandwiches that between too thickly cut slices of bread: Nixon and his times are over-researched and now almost boring; Nixon bequeathed us “domestic tranquility”, for which we should be eternally grateful.  His condiments, too, are bland and lack unoriginality: “Nixonland is a historical narrative worth savoring—but one worth ar­guing with as well.”  Then he adds the horseradish: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“&lt;strong&gt;[P]erhaps inevitably&lt;/strong&gt;, [Perlstein] tends to be tougher on right-wing shibboleths” than on liberal ones….[he] is unsparing in his critique of the political failures of mid-century liberalism; I only wish he had meditated more deeply on liberalism’s policy failures…. But to do so might have required him to give Nixon’s Republican Party—if not Nixon himself—more credit for restoring domestic tranquillity [sic] than I imagine he thinks the GOP deserves.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Domestic tranquility”.  Not how Sam Ervin, Frank Church, or thoughtful historians would describe Mr. Nixon’s legacy.  He came after the civil rights riots of the sixities, the early anti-war riots, and the global student riots of 1968.  He ultimately presided over quieter times, but his leadership did not lead us to them.  In fact, Nixon’s legacy is the gift that keeps on giving.  Dick Cheney is arguably Nixon II, the former aide who sees himself as the tough political “son” who won’t give in where dad fell down; who will leave America more prosperous and secure - at least more FUBARed - than when he found it.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Douthat admits none of that, instead remembering Nixon fondly, gelded of his paranoia, intensity and capacity for criminality: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A cynic in an age of zeal, a politician without principles at a moment that valued ideological purity above all, &lt;strong&gt;[Nixon] was too small a man to threaten the republic. His corruptions were too petty; his schemes too penny-ante; and his spirit too cowardly, too self-interested, too venal to make him truly dangerous.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Cheney is also a small man who lacks principles, but his corruptions and schemes are not “petty” or “penny-ante”, and that makes him a more dangerous man than his hero.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200805/nixon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200805/nixon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[emph. added]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Dave for guiding us to Ross Douthat’s review of Rick Perlstein’s <em>Nixonland</em> in TheAtlantic.com.  Mr. Douthat’s critique starts off unseriously, transitions to analytical praise, and ends by revealing his reverence for Nixon, a bias he ught to have revealed as quickly as the one he attributes to Perlstein (a “decidedly left-wing historian”).  Orwell would have told him to trust his readers and let the author’s words speak for themselves.</p>
<p>Douthat describes the “riotous” 1968 Chicago Democratic convention, but never makes clear his pun.  He jumps straight to how well Perlstein recounts its television coverage, skipping the famously brutal treatment of demonstrators by Chicago’s mayor and police, and Nixon’s purported role in encouraging that.  </p>
<p>He gives Perlstein good marks, especially for his discussions of Bobby Kennedy and Richard Nixon, but sandwiches that between too thickly cut slices of bread: Nixon and his times are over-researched and now almost boring; Nixon bequeathed us “domestic tranquility”, for which we should be eternally grateful.  His condiments, too, are bland and lack unoriginality: “Nixonland is a historical narrative worth savoring—but one worth ar­guing with as well.”  Then he adds the horseradish: </p>
<p>“<strong>[P]erhaps inevitably</strong>, [Perlstein] tends to be tougher on right-wing shibboleths” than on liberal ones….[he] is unsparing in his critique of the political failures of mid-century liberalism; I only wish he had meditated more deeply on liberalism’s policy failures…. But to do so might have required him to give Nixon’s Republican Party—if not Nixon himself—more credit for restoring domestic tranquillity [sic] than I imagine he thinks the GOP deserves.”</p>
<p>“Domestic tranquility”.  Not how Sam Ervin, Frank Church, or thoughtful historians would describe Mr. Nixon’s legacy.  He came after the civil rights riots of the sixities, the early anti-war riots, and the global student riots of 1968.  He ultimately presided over quieter times, but his leadership did not lead us to them.  In fact, Nixon’s legacy is the gift that keeps on giving.  Dick Cheney is arguably Nixon II, the former aide who sees himself as the tough political “son” who won’t give in where dad fell down; who will leave America more prosperous and secure &#8211; at least more FUBARed &#8211; than when he found it.  </p>
<p>Douthat admits none of that, instead remembering Nixon fondly, gelded of his paranoia, intensity and capacity for criminality: </p>
<blockquote><p>A cynic in an age of zeal, a politician without principles at a moment that valued ideological purity above all, <strong>[Nixon] was too small a man to threaten the republic. His corruptions were too petty; his schemes too penny-ante; and his spirit too cowardly, too self-interested, too venal to make him truly dangerous.</strong></p>
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<p>Mr. Cheney is also a small man who lacks principles, but his corruptions and schemes are not “petty” or “penny-ante”, and that makes him a more dangerous man than his hero.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200805/nixon" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200805/nixon</a><br />
[emph. added]</p>
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		<title>By: RevDeb</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382753</link>
		<dc:creator>RevDeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting way to look at it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would that Yoo ends up like Joe did.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting way to look at it.</p>
<p>Would that Yoo ends up like Joe did.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382738</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“I have in my hand a list . . .” said Joe. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“We have in our hands a group . . .” said John.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Joe would have had no qualms about torture, but he didn’t have the clout to make it happen. John had no such problems, even if he was a tool for those with the real clout.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I have in my hand a list . . .” said Joe. </p>
<p>“We have in our hands a group . . .” said John.</p>
<p>Joe would have had no qualms about torture, but he didn’t have the clout to make it happen. John had no such problems, even if he was a tool for those with the real clout.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382728</link>
		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OfT, Audio and Video of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qubetv.tv/videos/detail/3483&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Marine at a check point just outside Baghdad&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is no violence and the Marine’s comments are tragically funny. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the unlikely event that they missed it, someone like Siun or Gorilla Guides might be interested in this. They also might see more than I do. All I see is the complete worthlessness of trying to occupy a foreign country. The Marine confirms this, because of the language barrier. I think he’s also alluding to what they see as their primary mission: “&lt;em&gt;to be bullet sponges&lt;/em&gt;.” These people have to endure long periods of undending boredom broken only by bursts of life-threatening terror.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bring ‘em home. This isn’t what my tax dollars should pay for.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OfT, Audio and Video of a <a href="http://www.qubetv.tv/videos/detail/3483" rel="nofollow">US Marine at a check point just outside Baghdad</a>.</p>
<p>There is no violence and the Marine’s comments are tragically funny. </p>
<p>In the unlikely event that they missed it, someone like Siun or Gorilla Guides might be interested in this. They also might see more than I do. All I see is the complete worthlessness of trying to occupy a foreign country. The Marine confirms this, because of the language barrier. I think he’s also alluding to what they see as their primary mission: “<em>to be bullet sponges</em>.” These people have to endure long periods of undending boredom broken only by bursts of life-threatening terror.  </p>
<p>Bring ‘em home. This isn’t what my tax dollars should pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382723</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I give up.  What the hell can we do between now and January 20th if Congress won’t act?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give up.  What the hell can we do between now and January 20th if Congress won’t act?</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382721</link>
		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They’re walking the walk, too…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maintaining military supplies to Afghanistan this year will be a great challenge for the US, which is why Richard Boucher, the top US official for South Asia, and US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte were in Pakistan’s Khyber Agency recently to try to get tribal elders on side. But because of the Taliban’s threats, only three elders turned up for secret meetings. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They’re walking the walk, too…</p>
<blockquote><p>Maintaining military supplies to Afghanistan this year will be a great challenge for the US, which is why Richard Boucher, the top US official for South Asia, and US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte were in Pakistan’s Khyber Agency recently to try to get tribal elders on side. But because of the Taliban’s threats, only three elders turned up for secret meetings. </p>
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		<title>By: Dakinikat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382719</link>
		<dc:creator>Dakinikat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;true dat&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true dat</p>
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		<title>By: RevDeb</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/10/and-through-the-wire/#comment-1382716</link>
		<dc:creator>RevDeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not sure that’s an apt comparison. McCarthy was kind of an egotistic megolomaniac. Yoo seems to be more like an obliging tool. But that’s my take on it and I don’t know that much about Yoo other than he appears to be evil.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure that’s an apt comparison. McCarthy was kind of an egotistic megolomaniac. Yoo seems to be more like an obliging tool. But that’s my take on it and I don’t know that much about Yoo other than he appears to be evil.</p>
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