Comments on: Signing Up For The Forever War http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:47:09 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: TheRealityBasedDave http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1382193 TheRealityBasedDave Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:59:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1382193 <p>I would like someone to ask Clinton & Obama what are their plans for the permanent bases being built in Iraq. A “draw down” of the troops means nothing.<br /> Edwards was the last true democrat & liberal in the race.<br /> sigh…</p> I would like someone to ask Clinton & Obama what are their plans for the permanent bases being built in Iraq. A “draw down” of the troops means nothing.
Edwards was the last true democrat & liberal in the race.
sigh…

]]> By: worldwidehappiness http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381689 worldwidehappiness Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:00:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381689 <p>Implementing elementary management practice would mean leaving Iraq now for something more worthwhile.</p> <p>Could you imagine a manager agreeing to permanent ongoing investment of resources without a payoff?</p> <p>The opportunity cost is enormous. </p> <p>One tenth of the Iraq investment would save many more lives in Africa!</p> Implementing elementary management practice would mean leaving Iraq now for something more worthwhile.

Could you imagine a manager agreeing to permanent ongoing investment of resources without a payoff?

The opportunity cost is enormous.

One tenth of the Iraq investment would save many more lives in Africa!

]]> By: DeanOR http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381587 DeanOR Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:28:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381587 <p>Empire? What empire?</p> Empire? What empire?

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381473 selise Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:06:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381473 <p>only if we had a functioning DOJ.</p> only if we had a functioning DOJ.

]]> By: earlofhuntingdon http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381456 earlofhuntingdon Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:59:23 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381456 <p>The President claims that his proposed agreement would not contain security “guarantees” for the Iraqis and so would not require Senate approval.</p> <p>Who thinks 300,000+ personnel, troops and a private contractors in equal numbers, semi-permanently stationed in Iraq will only be needed for guard duty and to keep the motor pool trucks running smoothly? When you have ‘em, you use ‘em. </p> <p>Who thinks we won’t end up with de facto guarantees based on the need for US forces to defend themselves or to respond in force to prior attacks?</p> <p>Finally, any First World War buffs about? It was a conflagration that started based on interlocking arrangements and at least one “cordial understanding”, only a few of which were legal commitments. Some leaders wanted war, some thought it inevitable, others thought they could do nothing to stop it or tried too late. And once the troops were on the move, everybody claimed they couldn’t be stopped without losing advantage or face. So they stayed their course and permanently altered the world’s.</p> The President claims that his proposed agreement would not contain security “guarantees” for the Iraqis and so would not require Senate approval.

Who thinks 300,000+ personnel, troops and a private contractors in equal numbers, semi-permanently stationed in Iraq will only be needed for guard duty and to keep the motor pool trucks running smoothly? When you have ‘em, you use ‘em.

Who thinks we won’t end up with de facto guarantees based on the need for US forces to defend themselves or to respond in force to prior attacks?

Finally, any First World War buffs about? It was a conflagration that started based on interlocking arrangements and at least one “cordial understanding”, only a few of which were legal commitments. Some leaders wanted war, some thought it inevitable, others thought they could do nothing to stop it or tried too late. And once the troops were on the move, everybody claimed they couldn’t be stopped without losing advantage or face. So they stayed their course and permanently altered the world’s.

]]> By: tryggth http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381445 tryggth Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:52:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381445 <p>selise and STTPinOhio…</p> <p>I hadn’t seen it till just a few minutes ago. But it is the sort of thing that reminds me of the prisoners dilemma times - what is it? - six?</p> selise and STTPinOhio…

I hadn’t seen it till just a few minutes ago. But it is the sort of thing that reminds me of the prisoners dilemma times – what is it? – six?

]]> By: RevBev http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381444 RevBev Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:52:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381444 <p>This is part of the effort to contact Congress on tomorrow to speak out against the war funding. And for a note of real comfort, W is giving a major speech tomorrow, so we can expect another happy ending. </p> <p>2. Co-sponsor Lynn Woolsey’s HR 5507 and safely bring all the troops home.</p> <p>Call the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121 or find your Representative’s phone on the right side:<br /> <a href="http://usalone.com" rel="nofollow">http://usalone.com</a></p> <p>Want to do more? </p> <p>1. Email your Senators and Representative and ask your friends and relatives to join you:<br /> <a href="http://www.democrats.com/iraq-petition" rel="nofollow">http://www.democrats.com/iraq-petition</a> </p> This is part of the effort to contact Congress on tomorrow to speak out against the war funding. And for a note of real comfort, W is giving a major speech tomorrow, so we can expect another happy ending.

2. Co-sponsor Lynn Woolsey’s HR 5507 and safely bring all the troops home.

Call the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121 or find your Representative’s phone on the right side:
http://usalone.com

Want to do more?

1. Email your Senators and Representative and ask your friends and relatives to join you:
http://www.democrats.com/iraq-petition

]]> By: STTPinOhio http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381425 STTPinOhio Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:37:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381425 <p>I’ve been head faked before (the missing e-mails, Ralston, Goodling & Sara what’s-her-face’s testimony, soopeenees for Rove, Bolton & Meier’s testimony), but this may be the one that finally brings this crime syndicate down.</p> I’ve been head faked before (the missing e-mails, Ralston, Goodling & Sara what’s-her-face’s testimony, soopeenees for Rove, Bolton & Meier’s testimony), but this may be the one that finally brings this crime syndicate down.

]]> By: strider7 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381424 strider7 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:36:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381424 <p>hey selise! just think,after all this is settled we have to keep track of these fucks.They’re whole philosophy has to be anihilated.teach your children well</p> hey selise! just think,after all this is settled we have to keep track of these fucks.They’re whole philosophy has to be anihilated.teach your children well

]]> By: wesgpc http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381419 wesgpc Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:34:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/09/signing-up-for-the-forever-war/#comment-1381419 <p>OK, sorry for my broad brush on San Mateo.<br /> Parts of it are very wealthy and very very nice. Parts of it are very ppor and have been a big mess in the past, and many parts are regular working and middle class, with typical working and middle class problems.</p> OK, sorry for my broad brush on San Mateo.
Parts of it are very wealthy and very very nice. Parts of it are very ppor and have been a big mess in the past, and many parts are regular working and middle class, with typical working and middle class problems.

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