“Iraqupation!”

Brilliant!!

Thanks! I’ve been calling it that for months, actually.

Digg it for a great post by Eli!

When I listen to these warmongers, all I can think of is the young people that are hostage to repeated deployments, their struggling families, the wounded and the continuing mounting number of deaths everyday. FOR WHAT? We will pull out someday and it won’t look much different than today, except for one thing. Some people that are alive today will be dead.

After enduring yet another set of hearings featuring Petraeus and Crocker, it resonates more and more with every Friedman Unit.

Iraq is not a peaceful liberal ponyocracy? Whatever shall we do?

Evening Eli. You’re a dirty hippy? Go take a shower dude!

Since it is abundantly obvious that we will not find any ponies in Iraq, the only solution is to import some. A Pony Surge, if you will.

Did Hagel ask any decent questions? I didn’t get to watch the entire soap opera.

Evening Betsy.

It’s a good thing for Senator McCain that most Americans don’t know very much.

To be accompanied by galloping inflation here, to pay for it all.

And that the media doesn’t tell them.

Not only will they not tell us what FAILURE would look like, they can’t even tell us what “SUCCESS” means.

There are no terms defined whatsoever. And any attempt to define anything will be canned five minutes later, to be replaced with its polar opposite if necessary, with Orwellian denial that anything was ever any different.

All to the purpose of keeping troops there FOREVER. Whatever it takes.

It’s like pornography. We’ll know it when we see it.

Exactly. Just like the way everything is good for Republicans, and tax cuts are the answer for all our problems, *everything* means that we can’t pull the troops out of Iraq.

So what will it take, guys? When will you admit that the Knicks have no shot at the playoffs? That the girl you’ve been stalking isn’t secretly into you? That your seafood gelato shop is never going to break even? That your combover isn’t fooling anyone? That the ice caps are melting?

That your 401K is tanking?

That your surfing through adult websites is not “research”?

That your speedo really, really should never see the light of day again?

Eli- The media does what the bankers tell them, support war because it creates debt.

Most of us thought it was obscene from Day One.

Peterr’s got the idea.

We saw it and we knew it.

I think the media does what their corporate ownership tells them, because their corporate ownership benefits from Republican rule.

True.

And just like Republicans are “good on security” and the “family values” party.

Some days it’s just hard to stop gagging on the mendacity.

Corporate ownership doesn’t tell anybody to do anything. They don’t need to. Every employee knows what’s required without being told. That’s the beauty of it all.

Eli- Their owners are the bankers. They run both parties.

Evening Eli. Kudos for that fine, fine piece of writing.

Yes, he asked some excellent questions

So instead, maybe the media should ask Bush, McCain, et Joe et al, what, exactly, would have to happen for them to declare Iraq such a success that our troops are no longer needed there.

Their mothers would have to frown at them sternly, grasp them firmly by the ears, and send them to their rooms without supper, telling them, “You think about what you’ve been doing, mister, and don’t come down until you’re ready to say you’re sorry.”

I’m guessing Barbara gave up on this a long time ago, but maybe it’s time to give it one more try.

Thanks, Quebecois!

I don’t really think Bar made much effort at all to teach Dubya how to apologize…

Bar didn’t make much effort to teach any of her children anything. She was too busy playing golf and sipping mint juleps in the afternoon. Hence George’s personality disorder.

I’m wondering at what point will al-Sadr determine that he has enough armed support to launch some sort of province- or nationwide offensive. With my limited knowledge of urban warfare I wouldn’t know where or how to start but I don’t think there’s much doubt that an all-out confrontation between the GZG and al-Sadr is coming. Sometime. Somewhere. When it does happen the US won’t be able to say that we’re supporting the GZG in their fight against criminals and terrorists, we’ll either have to openly support GZG in a civil war or get the hell out. al-Sadr could keep up guerrilla warfare endlessly, which would suit bin Laden just fine, because we can’t keep feeding the meat grinder and profiteers forever. But the same is true of al-Sadr’s troops. He’s bound to lose the numbers game because of our firepower. So what to do. What to do. This is, of course, just the rumination of an old jungle fighter.

It takes time to set this deal up so they can blame the liberals. Be patient, it’s coming like the Wabash Cannonball.

I wonder if al-Sadr’s people are asking *him* when *he’ll* give up on the Iraqupation.

I don’t think Bar made much of an effort with him for anything.

The W. Bush Cannonball.

She was too busy playing golf and sipping mint juleps in the afternoon. Hence George’s personality disorder.

Was she wacking balls at monkey boy???

So what to do. What to do

He’ll sacrifice just enough of em to get public opinion swingin big time. See the battle of Fallujah.

I think al-Sadr knows what he’s doing. And I *know* Dubya doesn’t.

You saw what My Tho looked like after Tet.

Unless this is what the dope wants.

I don’t think Dubya gives two shits about the outcome, just so long as he can milk it until he’s out.

Since giving themselves the ability to create money out of thin air and charge interest on it, the Federal Reserve Corporation has controlled media, education, the Military etc.

I’m just a dirty unserious hippie.

Unserious? I thought you were serious, Eli!

Let’s hear some of that silly shit about Paraguay, he ain’t goin nowhere.

More like The City of New Orleans.

Good question.

I would imagine al-Sadr is hearing a lot from the angry young fighters but they follow his orders. For now. Different time, different place, same anger, same hot blood. And it’s really gonna be ugly. There are civilians all over the goddamn place and an awful lot are gonna get killed.

People who are friends with SnarkySandra (now Cassie Frequels) may want to check her facebook status and link for excellent news.

Illinois Central early mornin rail

No, no-one serious opposes the war. Being pro-war is actually the *definition* of serious now.

Yeah, and I saw Hue, too. I’m real glad I missed that one. That house to house shit sucks.

Rode it to and from college, back in the day. Steve Goodman got it exactly right in the song.

I assume Speaker Pelosi and the Vice President are working overtime tonight to find Osama.

Under the VP’s desk.

Hi Eli….xxxxxxoooooooo….we now live in a permanent state of catch 22
we have to destroy Iraq in order to save it,yea we da good guys

I hope the funding comes through for her Tex! *g*

Hi sadly!

Meanwhile we have people dying while the politicians are lying. That is certainly obscene.

Yup, we’ll make Iraq safe fer democracy if we have ta kill every last Iraqi ta do it!

Ya mean serious like this…

You’ve been very frank about some of the problems that we still face. I say — what I’m about to say with respect to my colleagues who have consistently opposed our presence in Iraq, as I hear the questions and the statements today, it seems to me that there’s a kind of “hear no progress in Iraq, see no progress in Iraq” and most of all “speak of no progress in Iraq.” The fact is there has been progress in Iraq, thanks to extraordinary effort by the two of you and all those who serve under you on our behalf. I wish we could come to a point where we could have an agreement on the facts that you are presenting to us, the charts you’ve shown, the military progress, the extraordinary drop in ethnosectarian violence, the drop in civilian deaths, the drop in American deaths, the — the very impressive political progress in Iraq since last September.

Beat ya can’t guess who uttered that rubbish today! ;-)

Great post Eli.

But asking McCain the question:

What, exactly, would have to happen for you to declare that Iraq is a lost cause, or simply not worth the loss of money and lives?

collides with his main problem. In his mind, “winning” in Iraq is “winning” in Vietnam. He has wanted to win in Vietnam ever since his experience there. He will not back down on Iraq for any kind of reason or common sense. This is a must win situation (in his delusional mind.)

Still, the war supporters refuse to define how a “win” in Iraq could be defined.
I think we need to find the definition and work towards it.

Declare victory and bring the troops home. Support the homecoming troops, they will need every parade and demonstration of support that we can show them.

Awww, now ya went and made me lose my excellent dinner. *g*

Much of what has been revealed about the personalities and parenting skills, and habits of Bar and Hubby shows a pretty sorry group.

On Katrina Victims: … were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckles) — this is working very well for them.”

Larry KING: All right. Your recent comments on the Democratic presidential…

BUSH: Isn’t that funny? I knew that was going to come up.

KING: Oh, I want to discuss a lot of things. You said so far, they’re a pretty sorry group.

BUSH: Well, you know, mothers are allowed to be proud of their sons. And it gets a little old when 10 grown men run around the country not talking about what they’re going to do, but knocking my precious, courageous, brilliant son. That’s a mother speaking.

KING: What’s the biggest difference from being the husband — being the wife of a president and the mother of a president?

BUSH: Well, first of all, you have to watch the father of the president suffer. And it hurts when your children are criticized. It hurts a lot.

KING: He takes it badly?

BUSH: He and I both do. He — he curses, and I grit my teeth.
But, no, he really — he knows that’s the name of the game. But it gets pretty ugly.

KING: But was it harder for you…

BUSH: Much.

KING: …when he — when the current president is criticized than when the husband was criticized?

BUSH: Right.

KING: How do you explain it — motherly?

BUSH: Motherly. And fatherly. I mean, that’s just a normal reaction.
But the same would be true if something happened that was difficult for Jeb or for Doro or Neil or Marvin. And you can criticize me, but don’t criticize my children and don’t criticize my daughters-in-law and don’t criticize my husband, or you’re dead.

That an extra holiday at work is not an annual increase?
That one lime costs 89 cents?
That one third of every paycheck goes to taxes, and I still owe $$$ this year to the government?
That I can’t find a pair of shoes NOT made in China?

Sheesh! Hi Eli! Great post, especially the unicorns.

watching that sad Senate soap opera that was on my teevee today,was like watching the scopes monkey trial…..the goal posts were moved so much ,the game was unrecognizable

Hooray for Cassie! Of course she was accepted.

Does it start with a J, and end with an ieberman?

Her application was only final on Friday, and they sent her the acceptance this afternoon.

Sorry, Dood! My humble apologies…! ;-)

Well, one purpose of asking both questions is to demonstrate that they have no plan other than Stay In Iraq Forever. There’s no exit plan for good *or* bad outcomes.

Aww that was too easy…! 8-P

Superman is vulnerable to magic as well as kryptonite, so my kryptonite unicorn would *totally* waste him.

Isn’t that the truth. When Americans are killing Iraqis in the Sadr City of Baghdad, like we are, isn’t that kinda defeating the alleged purpose of this war? What’s worse, Saddam Hussein, or what’s happening now?

Lieberman, had to be.

Wow. Double Wow.

I would agree with the parades and all, but not with declaring victory. There has been no victory for anyone involved.

OT: interesting piece about McNasty

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0407.html

but what about the Banner … mission accomplished right?

Hey Eli. Great post and good ta c’ya.

I’m torn between “Mc[See You Next Tuesday]”, “McCaca”, and “McTrainwreck”.

He also got into fistfights with Rick Renzi and, apparently, Strom Thurmond. In 1995.

Hiya, siri!

There’s no exit plan

Excellent! Iraq is now a U.S. colony.
Let’s ask the British how that works out, long term.
Perhaps the Iraqis could have a “tea party?”

and lieberbusch and graham cracker:

IRAQ — IGNORING UPTICK IN VIOLENCE, SENATORS ACCUSE WAR CRITICS OF ‘A CRISIS OF CREDIBILITY’: Writing in the Wall Street Journal yesterday, Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) accused critics of the Iraq war of facing “a crisis of credibility” because they “confidently predicted the failure of the surge.” But in their effort to argue that anti-war critics have “been proven decidedly wrong,” Lieberman and Graham undermined their own credibility on the issue by ignoring recent developments in the war-torn country. As proof of the surge’s success, the two senators cited statistics “from June 2007 through February 2008″ that they say show “dramatic improvements in security.” But the fact that Lieberman and Graham cited statistics only through February — even though numbers for March 2008 are available — undercuts their argument

http://online.wsj.com/article/…..mmentaries

For those not old enough to remember VietNam, the lesson is pretty simply. Sadr and Company will simly wait us out as he consolidates more power and organizes the loyal opposition. The Shiites have the numbers on their side and will take over the country when they decide the time is right. It’s in their interest to have the US around as a foreign occupying force that the population resents and blames for the turmoil in their country. The US and the West were far better off with Saddam than Sadr. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. A trillion dollars and counting and all we did was screw ourselves.
At least LBJ had the integrity to fall on his sword and leave politics for his monumental mistake.

McNasty was actually his nickname in highschool …

If Fred Kagan says the surge is working,
who are we to question him?
I mean, he’s a decorated veteran, fluent in Arabic,
with on-the-ground experience throughout the region.

Oh, wait. Never mind.

What? Missed all of this.

Yep. I don’t favor it, it’s a little too roguish bad boy. We need something that conveys asshole & loose cannon.

“victory” meant as a word only, not in any real, meaningful sense.
We all know it’s a disaster, but in order to get out we need to put a positive spin on it.
Horrible, but true.

Dubya’s thinks he’s playing checkers when everyone else knows they are playing multi-level chess.

How about banners that say, “It’s Finally Freaking Over”?

You always have such eloquent points, even when the topic could decomposed into something short and contemptible

A fistfight with Strom Thurmond? This raises two questions:

1) 1995, or 1895?

2) who won?

with an asterik that leads to “and I was SOOOOOO wrong” signed your recently impeaced president

Aw, thank you! I actually *thought* this was going to be a very short post. But I guess I didn’t have a very good exit plan.

a fist fight with strom? that is just all kinds of wrong.

he’s first trying to get himself named ayatollah …

McNada

Alas, it doesn’t say. But with Renzi, in good buddy movie fashion, they became great friends immediately after.

If al-Sistani thought that al-Sadr would probably be enjoying his 72 virgins.

And where is good buddy Renzi now? *g*

Hi Tex, I left a message on her wall. Wonderful news!

Mc Fistfight?

I believe that it is the GRRRRand Intention that our troops remain in Iraq for as long as it takes to GET THE OIL. That’s the point, after all. The US military is currently engaged in the pursuit of making it safe enough for for exploration to take place, our refineries to operate, for executives and workers of Chevron, Exon Mobile, and whoever else gets an invite to the party, to comfortably do business there. Our military will then need to protect the same until…… well, till the well runs dry. Halliburton KBR, Blackwater, and all the rest are support to that end.
Period.

Loose McCannon?

I came *this* close to titling the post “A Question For McCainservatives”, but decided it was just too fugly.

Loo Hoo a 3 week summer program at a prestigious university, all about the constitution and our government.

Wonderful for Cassie!!! She deserves it.

I wanna go!!!! What a great way to spend 3 weeks of the summer! wow
that is wonderful, truly.

Will she be an assistant professor or an associate professor?

*g*

LLNite page not found…

That is an oversight, Loo Hoo.
Working on it now.

Did someone say Paraguay a while back?

you have good judgement!

glitch and it will publish at its normal 8pm fld time

Are you about to finish 10th or 11th grade? Are your grades in the 90’s+ category? Can you get counselor and teacher recommendations?

…and while the mods a whipping the hamsters… enjoy some Mark Knopfler. See my 112

;~P

Or read Cassie’s new post: http://frecklescassie.wordpres…..een-style/

Naw, ya’ll wouldn’t flub it, would ya? *g*

Poor whittle hamster beings.

Thanks LM and Suz.

But my linky won’t make your skin crawl or your blood boil…

;~P

Eli has passed the presedential threshold”g”

She’s a … what? Just what is she???? Putz?

That was some nice music.

Wait. did I see you were lead poster somewhere?

and i must stop typing,wrist aches,ill lurk….love yall to pieces/peaces

John McCain supports torture of human beings by the United States of America.

John McCain:
Worse than Bush

While we are waiting – what are we going to do about the powers congress gave Chertoff to do anything he wants in order to build the border fence? (See linky in news box). In south Texas that means he is going to let Mexico have all the bird and wildlife refuges that environmentalists have worked to protect for years. This is total insanity.

Click on my name…! ;-)

Always happy to share.

Try this.

;~P

In other news, my own blog is the #1 Google result for cats ear nibbling ejaculation.

I have no idea what the searcher was going for, but I’m pretty sure they were very disappointed.

McCain is dangerous

Iraqupation must enter the lexicon today.

alright. started to read it earlioer. loked good. i’ll be around.

you’ve set the bar pretty high eli. no way my wee blog can compete with that. i get google searches for sisters birthday and peony blooming.

I am all about linguistic efficiency.

I love it when you talk dirty, Suz

whoa

Congratulations Betsy!

Mary are you going to the torch relay with your girls tomorrow? I’ll be in R.C. in the afternoon.

In other news, my own blog is the #1 Google result for cats ear nibbling ejaculation.

I’ll bet your relations are pleased.

I get bizarre search hits so often I have a whole category for it. With 126 posts.

No, they were pissed off that they had to search again.

I’ll bet your relations are pleased.

hysterical.

mud, teddy, pig pen, adobe, cow pattie…

I finally stopped Eli. We had a whole Eschacon with not one Eli sighting. Well done, me.

hee hee

touché

Wow, TKK you have teh awesomest powerz

Swift Boat Veterans For Truth…

powerz – i haz them!

That doesn’t mean I wasn’t there, dude.

[eyeroll emoticon]

So you know the search that a person used to get to your blog?

Yep, Sitemeter tells me what links people followed to get to my blog.

Since it is abundantly obvious that we will not find any ponies in Iraq, the only solution is to import some. A Pony Surge, if you will.

Will you uh pony-up the first one? Heh.

Dude, if I could find any ponies I’d be keeping them for myself.

al-Sadr could keep up guerrilla warfare endlessly, …
we can’t keep feeding the meat grinder and profiteers forever. …
He’s bound to lose the numbers game because of our firepower.

They live there. They’re in it forever…the longest run.

They don’t have to win a traditional fight. They just have to stay at it at their leisure.

We can’t win and we can’t stay forever, so we “lose”. It’s the traditional insurgency war.

McCain just doesn’t understand and never will. He’s still fighting WWII or earlier wars.

No, we had no enemy there (except perhaps Saddam) and we have no business there. It’s not in the strategic interests of America to be in Iraq right now.

*snork*
hahaha!

McCain is dangerous

God: John?
McCain: Yes Lord.

God: Where is your brother, McAbel?
McCain: In Iraq.

God: I rescued you from torture so you could be with your brother. Now you have sent him away.
McCrazy: We’ve got to prove I wasn’t tortured in Nam for nothing.

God: You were tortured so you would realize the value of being at home near your brother.

McNuts: Uh oh.

Dude, if I could find any ponies I’d be keeping them for myself.

Dude! Just so you don’t try keeping them in a small apartment in a big city. Jeez, they hate that. You know how hard it is to go galloping in the city.

Basra “No Country for Old Men”

True – I’m worried enough about what kind of damage a cat might do…

Iraq and where have we lead our friends?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7337873.stm

Questions for Petraeus:
1. What makes you think that reducing hostilities to some presumed, but unquantifiable, level has some reasonable probability of creating the conditions for political reconciliation to occur and the Iraqi government strengthened so it can defend itself and the Iraqi people?
2. How much of your job is devoted to simply maintaining civil order, and how much to reconciliation of Iraqi parties and political factions?
3. Who is in charge of assessing the prospects and probabilities of political reconciliation of Iraq? That’s the person the Senate committees need to hear from.
4. If you cannot know that the Iraq civil war can be resolved by the US simply maintaining civil order at some undefined level for some undefined period of time at a known cost of roughly 12 billion dollars a month and 50 to 70 soldiers lives, don’t you think it is time for the civilians in the DOD and White House to come up with a strategy with a greater likelihood of success at a cost that the nation can bear for that undefinable period of time?
2. Has the US won if it helps Iraq over its civil war, elect a government that has the support of its people and kicks al Qaida out of the country, but Iraq allies itself with Iran? Is this the primary Bush administration interest in Iraq at this time-to install a government that is favorable to the US and not to Iran regardless of the level of hostilities and political battles?

Having read this article the question arises – can this kind of war be “won”? It seems to me the probabilities are heavily stacked against it. The American people know this, based on poll results. The only way McCain/Bush has even a colorable argument that it can be is to mischaracterize the enemy and the kind of struggle we are involved in.

Clearly liberals just don’t get it. The war is a success, Iraq is better off and they love us. Anyone who says otherwise is a traitor. What would it take to declare Iraq a failure? Easy, a Democrat in the White House.