Yep, nothing says success like marking time for five years and counting.
But unlike in September, when that news was fresh and the administration said a corner had been turned, even some of the war’s strongest supporters in Congress have grown impatient and frustrated. Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, and Crocker will face many lawmakers who had expected more by now and who are wondering whether any real change will occur before the clock runs out on the Bush administration.
"I think all of us realize we’re disappointed at where we are," Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) said at a hearing last week. Sen. Norm Coleman (R-Minn.) asked, "How do we get out of this mess?" While the cost in U.S. lives and money increases, said another senior GOP senator, who spoke on the condition of anonymity: "We cannot . . . just say we’re coasting through and waiting for the next president."…
Although the United States has spent nearly all of the approximately $21 billion appropriated for Iraqi reconstruction since 2003, $500 million has been budgeted annually for the past three years for the Commander’s Emergency Response Program, distributed by U.S. officers on the ground for local development efforts.
Despite considerable U.S. expenditures on oil and electricity infrastructure, oil exports and the supply of electricity and other services have not risen significantly since 2004. In early April, according to State Department statistics, the electricity supply met 58 percent of demand, compared with 66 percent a year earlier. The International Committee of the Red Cross reported last month that "millions of Iraqis have insufficient access to clean water, sanitation and health care."
So much for the rose-colored glasses version, even in the WaPo. Tom Ricks has some good questions and some things to think about and watch for during the hearings. Juan Cole has a round-up of the latest, and it is not cheery news. The NYTimes shows the startling increases of violence, including within the supposedly secure Green Zone in Baghdad, where attacks are up sharply yet again. AP is reporting that al Sadr is again threatening to rescind the cease-fire.
With Sens. Clinton, McCain and Obama in the Senate Armed Services Committee for the testimony today, expect the media to parse every last syllable, facial expression and eye roll from the presidential candidates. Would that they would give the same level of scrutiny to the honeyed evasions and pronouncements dripping off the tongues of Petraeus and Crocker — I could do with some serious fact-checking and calling of bullshit during this round of testimony rather than a horse race bonanza. Frankly, we all could — this is too important for the infotainment treatment.
(Yes, I know the picture has nothing whatsoever to do with Iraq and the Senate Armed Services Committee. But it was too cute a pix not to share. Meet Lucky, the little puppy who stumbled into our driveway last week and has now found a home with us. The Peanut, as you might imagine, is thrilled. She’s home with me today, so I’m going to watch the hearings and will highlight along as we go — but full liveblogging with a small puppy and five year old is impossible this morning. So let’s follow along together in the thread…)
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P: Talking up the “Sons of Iraq”, i.e. paying off Sunni tribes that is leading to the fragmentation in the country.
General Zed!
quagmire!
So? Lucky is adorable, and how he has lived up to his name by being found by you!
That Lucky gives me some mighty puppy-lust.
CHS:
Forgive the crassness of reposting a comment, but this quote says it all:
Here’s Bush on Petraeus (via Froomkin):
In case anyone had doubted there was a sexual dimension to this relationship. Just call him Pool Boy Petraeus.
I would have made first if I wasn’t in this Petraeus daze right now…
Is it too early for a drinking game?
McCain prediction: He will repeat the success in Iraq meme and then ask why the Dems hate America succeeding for 100 years …
Glenn has a post today with poll results on setting a date and getting out. Overwhelming support, what a surprise.
What a sweet face Lucky has…I’d much rather look at him than McCain or LIEberman!
i want to see a map showing where the us military enjoys support.
Maybe just a tiny nip in the coffee, we may need it.
No way, eh ?
What’s the ‘magic’ word ?
thanks for the puppy…..i think of the Iraqi puppies ,all the time
and little general is READING IT ALL,whose words are those?
LUCKY!! too cute!
Magic word = “the”
P: Transfering control to Iraqi forces.
Well we saw how well that worked in Basra. Even though these were a miserable failure there, P. is still talking them up, which shows how he can’t go off script.
benchmarks
Of course he can’t go off script, ’cause he’s got nothing.
psst Hi!
How’s McCain doing without his Lieberminder?
ok,why are we in IRAQ?,one good reason why we cant leave,since we dont own that country
hi back!
Well if we are to beieve P’s charts everything is going swimmingly. After saying that the Iraqi security forces are great. He adds almost as an afterthought that they still can’t defend the country. (after 5 years they still can’t do this)
who wrote that crap?
Wow, the Iraq Gov’t is able to buy more American goods than American consumers … /s
Anyone know where we can get copies of Petraeus’ nifty graphics? It would be interesting to dissect them later.
Lucky ! – warm puppy belly, puppy breath – sigh
Those are HIS words, of course.
The script was given to him fair and square, the words are his now.
why are we there? somebody,anybody
the dog is adorable.
petraeus on the front page of the nytimes not so much. actually, when i first saw the picture i did a double-take. the ways he’s holding his arms behind his back, it looked like he was handcuffed. a hallelujah chorus started forming in me, but then i looked again. rats.
How about we roll out your charts/lists to counter the General …
america is NOT behind this BS….this is a fascist speech period
This is like a CEO giving you his expansion plan and pointing to all the charts that show everything is going great, except for the one small fact that the company is going under.
Things are going so well in Iraq that we can cut our troops back to more than we had there when the surge started. That’s progress.
Hopefully, for Jello shots and some of your recipes … *g*
Don’t forget that training Iraqi forces was P’s responsibility before he took overall command in Iraq.
that fukkkkkker cant even look up,so we see his LYING EYES
bwaahaahaa – was just thinking of the first time someone noticed ‘an irregularity’ buried in Enron’s Annual Report
anytime…why are we in Iraq?
that’s the cutest puppy I’ve ever seen. maybe someone left a baby on your doorstep?
Re hearings: Every time I hear about Iran is doing this or that, I think of future historians giving this war the tag line “the war to advance Iranian hegemony.” Nice job bushie, et. al.
He doesn’t seem like he believes what he’s saying
And wasn’t he the one who lost 15,000 guns?
except for the love of their lives, mcbarbecueking
wtf is “in our national interest” – and why does that (whatever it is) trump all other values?
Um… because Cheney needed a few Billion in the afterlife …
he is scum,now talking about sacrifice of the soldiers…its to cry about
So a quick recap.
Although violence is up, it’s down.
Although our mission is to protect civilians, we are currently attacking them.
Although the Iraqi security forces are doing great things, we still can’t defend anything
Although we are withdrawing troops, we are leaving more troops there then before.
He’s Betraying US now!
Yes, but military is not required to to report anything embarrassing, so you’ll never get the stuff that they don’t want you to see. Unlike Enron, where that young female Fortune mag reporter just made it her job to go thru all the footnotes.
You must have come late to the show dear. The good St. McCain opened for the General and told us all that we are succeeding! This is a happy day! If only those meddling Iranians weren’t messing things up, Iraq would look like this by now!
that is the funniest thing ive read in a long time…sadlyyes
Go Hugh Go !
Actually, it was 190,000.
i thought the very same thing at the very same moment….sigh
Crocker cannot read as fast as Betrayus.
How many Friedman units?
NPR has these hearings. They just took a break to misinform us about the surge and the Sons of Iraq. Way to go guys I was wondering who would carry the general’s water.
Morning Christy.
What a nice puppy picture. Felicity is a wool rug to snuggle to…
Why did Crooker mention McCain in his opening???
OH GOD who is this other Emp Pallitine look alike…SCARY OLD CREEPY GOP MEN
Thanks. I thought I was off by a factor of ten, but was too lazy to look it up.
He looks like he expects to be struck by lightening at any moment.
his involuntary actions are tells…..
Bethany McLean.
Good lord — thank heavens for coffee this morning. Crocker’s diplo-speak is seriously snooze-worthy.
they should not be able to read scripts imo
I missed that bit. What did he say?
One smart cookie, she. I wonder what she’s done lately. Thisk I’ll go google to see if I can find out.
Crooker: The Iraqi Flag flies all over the Nation for the first time … and they only cost us $3 Billion apiece …
But of course that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
wow…..the scary creepy old men of washington are evil incarnate
I can’t take this. I’m takin’ the kids out for breakfast.
Peace.
his current 2nd in command was in charge at Fallujah – and of course ol Willy Pete Odierno is now up for a 4th star
Crocker pointing to progress with certain key laws. Although he says implementation may be a problem, this is progress, i.e. the Iraqi government still hasn’t done anything.
He mentionned Senator McVain in his words of salutations.
I wrote this downstairs, it will be on topic throught the petreaus hearing
the democrats cede too much when they do not point out this is not an American war, we went in because if data created by the administration for a war they’ve wanted for an administration
they cannot allow that this is an american war, it is not, it’s a cheney bush war
yes, enjoy life…….
“Good lord — thank heavens for coffee this morning.”
hee! thank heavens for coffee EVERY morning!
although I’m seriously tempted to spike it with something…:)
this guy is just 100 % bulllllllllllllkaky
I’m just watching to see if these Senators have grown some backbone …
These are opening statements — same as what the Senators just gave. This gives them an opportunity to lay out their point by point ahead of time, so Senators get an opportunity to see what direction their spin is going to take — they usually get a copy a day or so ahead so staffs can prepare for questioning. I find them useful in terms of parsing, actually — because staffers can get them up quickly after the hearings for a closer read — and for comparisons on how they differ substantially from answers giving under more intense questioning.
Arianna Huffington:
Crocker trying to spin Basra as a success. What an idiot, or liar.
My magic word is “success”
YES,YES,YES…all based on LIES!!!!
Mornin Redd- VERY cute pup.
I’ve got Betty Crocker’s husband on the tube tellin me that Iraqis a great place to live, work, and play- thanks to our wise and omniscient president….
Is it April Fool’s day?
I’ll go with Door #2 …
that’s what i’d like to think too. but sadly, cheney/bush had help from congress – for example, see senator clinton.
hillary looks asleep
thanks,seems like totally spin,i guess if thet can ,they will make the case for infinite war.it is indeed vile to listen to.
And a new drinking game is born!
Ooh, Crocker admitting we don’t have authorization to stay past the end of the year.
awww sweet cuddly baby puppy feet, face, belly, breath. *sigh* When they (puppies/kittens) sleep, they are knocked out– I love it. Thanks we’ll need the continous stream of cute to counter the blech we’ll be hearing.
Crocker trying to separate various groups within the Mahdi Army. There’s the good JAM and there’s the bad JAM. The bad ones are the ones mortaring the Green Zone, etc.
What is scary about all this is that even after 5 years, these guys are clueless or lying about even the most basic political conflicts in Iraq.
making strange comments that are hard to defend,is very hard work
best news ive heard all day
To bad Pat Tillman was murdered because in a political match-up w/Petraeus he would wipe the floor with him. I guess that’s why he had to have that accident.Oh yea, he was pretty sharp too.
Shorter Petraeus and Crocker: Well yes, it is a pig, but it is a very good looking pig.
hahahahahahahahahahaha,the Iraqi economy
Coasting through and waiting for the next President seems to be our best option at this point, given the current President’s tendency to throw tantrums, stamp his feet, call names, and when he finally gets what he wants, fuck it all up anyway. We tried working with him (really, we did) on numerous occasions and it just doesn’t work. We tried working without him, but he just wouldn’t have it, and he’d go off and do what he wanted anyway. We don’t have the votes to throw the man out of office even if we thought it might do some good at this point, thanks to people like Norm Coleman and company, so what else is there?
Lying.
And that pig can fly. Well, it can if we give it a little time. And soon, that pig will fly by itself. You wait and see!!
now you know where our Social Security money is
Economy to grow “significantly” in the next 2 years. Interest rates down in Iraq well we can stop right here. Iraq is a success. I guess we can bring the troops home, right?
there’s just not enough LIPSTICK in the world for this one.
Iraqi economy is going to grow 8% this year, according to forecasts I have heard. Bwahahahahaha.
No, we need some mortgage finance success in Iraq first.
Hey Mr. Crocker…
Somebody wake up McCain, he’s asleep again.
DO YA THINK,these guys all go to Mortons and the Palm,toss down some martinis and laugh their asses off,that they got away with the transfer of Americas treasury?
Crocker is using “will do this”, plans for that, in other words it hasn’t happened yet (did I mention after we have been there 5 years) but if we stay there long enough it will.
Yep.
… every single day …
I thought Baker had taken care of that a couple of years ago.
hahhahahahahaha
since they work for our gubermint,we have to pay that tab too…taint fair!
Crocker talking up neighbors like Turkey and the positive things they’ve done. I think that would be the same Turkey who invaded northern Iraq recently.
Mr.Betty Crocker says that Iraq’s economy is doin MUCH better than OURS…
Does this guy have a website where you can go to buy retirement real estate?
I’d like a 2,500 square foot single story ranch on the golf course.
Whoops, wrong LIPS, General.
motherfukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkerz
anda subprime mortgage
I am not going to allow for that, data was invented and politicians voted on that invented data
in addition, NOBODY “voted” for the war, they voted to allow the president to invade Iraq AS A LAST RESORT
which he did not
so no matter how much clinton should have known better, she did NOT “vote for the war” and whatever vote she did agree was with data that was invented
this is a bush cheney war, not an American war and that is what the democrats have to start making clear
America cannot “loose” this war, this is abuse by the administration of our armed forces so they can steal…that is how this needs to be framed
Shit
I just got up and this asshole’s puttin me back to sleep…His voice has the same sound as early morning traffic in Manhattan- kind of a dull roar. You can’t really make out individual words….
Odds that Crocker will mention that Iran now has more influence in peacemaking than the U.S. ?
i’m going to switch over to the senate finance hearing on s.970, will watch for betrayus developments here and let you-all know if i hear anything of interest from finance.
well, I’m going to go take an epic shower to scrub this crap off my soiled body.
bom dia, pups
everyone have their hip waders on?
Oh noww….you’re counting in Years. It’s much easier to swallow when you use Friedman units. See, that way you get to say – “Why! It’s only been six months!” Fuck the fact that it’s 10 Friedman units since that jackass himself sat on Oprah Winfrey’s show and condescendingly discussed invading another country.
Crocker just mentioned the Turkish raid in the Kurdish region but not a minute before he was talking about how stable that area was. Now call me petty but I think if one country invades an area that just might mean that things are not as stable there as Crocker would think.
this guy is teh gay…he said seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerge,like it wasa new suit
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww its hard!
There’s even one available with an Olympic- sized
cesspool …yup
P&C must be talking about some other Iraq.
Mr Crocker says that if ya don’t keep spending blood and treasure- well yull just throw away all that blood and treasure we already invested….
Seems as if I heard this same line at a carnival midway from the barker at the dunk tank.
totalitarian state …wholly supported by BUSHIES…the ironkneeeeeeeeee
Cannot guarantee success in iraq but I it’s getting closer? WHT does that mean? It’s getting closer where he can guarantee success? he is getting closer to guaranteeing that he still cannot guarantee success?????? help
Hold these Democratic Senators who voted for the war to the same standards you hold yourself, and us. Saying they “did not vote for the war” is just a lie, as we all understood exactly what the vote meant at the time, having all the evidence we needed. And don’t excuse yourself from complicity: it’s an American war.
Crocker finishing by waving the al Qaeda flag before our eyes (his voice breaking) He says they almost succeeded. They were never within a million miles of being close to taking over.
How we leave is more important than how we got there. Well that covers a multitude of sins quite handily now doesn’t it?
must go regurgitate
Mr. Crocker says that if we stay the course we can make up for five years of fuck ups there…..Sounds like a GREAT opportunity…
Why don’t we let the free market take over…..I mean if it’s good enough for our medical system- why isn’t it good enough for Iraq…let all the corporations fight over who gets to go fuck up the country!
Meanwhile, we are bombing houses in Basra and Baghdad, set the main food market in Baghdad on fire with bombs and are blocking food, water and ambulances from reaching residents of Sadr City
For the record, I couldn’t disagree with you more on nearly every point.
commmmmmmmmmmmmmmencing a period of assesment
i think the CEOs must personaly supervise this in country!
Bwahahahahahahahaha
Oops! Be careful using the term “bullshit” w/r/t the general. Congress, including Democrats, will issue a formal condemnation of you!
What this country has come to…
I’ve heard about moving the goalposts but I never heard about moving them to a different city before. That’s what these guys are doing. Apparently other than the surge haing failed completely in its raison d’etre, it has been a great success.
If we sell off all the land in Iraq to “private investors”, then THEY can pay for a mercenary army to defend their investment- and they can start giant mushroom farms and get rich.
mr keeps muting the tv when petraeus opens his mouth.
it is un f/n believeable!!! no silent German here!!!!
Petraeus wants to go back to Iraq and do some calculus and geometry….I shit you not!
so during his entire opening statement, all I could hear was the puppy snoring
hahahahahahahahahaha…sigh
Bring them home!
P: Well taking in the battlefield geometry and consulting with Crocker about the political calculus we decided it all adds up.
P. should be arrested for assaulting the English language.
BRING THEM HOME….NOW
As with Blackberries, shit detectors have to have their batteries recharged periodically. The press tends to forget that detail.
woohoo first protester
Protester chanting “BRING THEM HOME!!” – people clapping
Sorry, I’m a little slow checking in here … love the pup, has no one recommended he be named “Lucky Firepup”?
Bring them home!
Protestor doesn’t like the General’s comments apparently.
protesters yelling “bring them home”
HAHAHAHahahahahaha
thanks for the laugh
“bring them home” chants …. Just carried one non silent German out of the hearing……..
I’d cosine the warrant
Good morning! Christy, I think that adorable little puppy was left on your doorstep by Gypsies. He’d have a home if left at my door. Lucky is lucky!
I’ve been up since 4:00 AM starting with WJ as an intro to the P&C Report. They read every word as approved. McCain began with a campaign speech and set up Iran for P to expand. Four years ago P was in charge of training the Iraqi military so US troops could stand down. He failed. With the continued violence he obviously hasn’t succeeded in the surge any better. Crocker cites polls (by whom I don’t know) stating business owners say they are hopeful that the economy will improve within the next two years. Hummm! I prefer what the ICRC reports.
The International Committee of the Red Cross reported last month that “millions of Iraqis have insufficient access to clean water, sanitation and health care.”
There goes another protest. Thank you. Keep those protests coming.
Did Maliki follow your advice in Basra? No, he did not.
P. also says that Iraqi forces went into action in Basra sooner than expected. Translation: they ran into opposition quickly and were stopped cold.
Petraeus hasn’t threatened to trigonometrize Iraq yet.
Swearing your allegiance to Peteraeus
Umm John Cornyn has decided that it would be nice if you all show your support of Petraeus by signing his umm petition.
okay, whoever lives in Texas, come claim your critter!
Senator Levin seems livid … will he follow through with some action to end the war or at least shame BushCo in any way …
I think Roberts choosing to hear a Supreme Court case on gun rights (the audio aired last month on C-Span) in an election cycle was to help boost campaign funding for the GOP & NRA. The NRA was calling several times and asking for a 3 yr subscription and also sent snail mail, 3 yrs, $85. and a note Hillary wanted to take our gun rights away from us. I read Roberts court have been taking less cases that they usually take. What percentage of them are political issues?
McCain spin time. Fasten your seatbelts Firepups; this will be dizzying.
McBush defending General Mathematician.
Quaker Girl, we are there to keep hope ALIVE!!
I agree with you. It is very easy to ignore for political purposes (ironically) the pressures and climate of that time, which Sen. Obama was not subjected to, btw. More than 70% of the public was supporting Bush on invading Iraq. Republicans, in power at that time, were using their usual threats and intimidation and bullying on Congress and the UN to get Bush what he wanted. I recall very distinctly being horrified at the intimidation tactics, and they were for real. The conditions under which that vote was made were terrible, and the public had a lot to do with that being the case.
Sen. Clinton at that time made it clear both with her words and her body language that she had serious reservations about going to war in Iraq and wanted the vote used merely as leverage. should she have trusted Bush? No, of course not, and THAT was her mistake, not the vote, although I disagree vehemently with her vote.
Sen. Obama has voted with Clinton on the Iraq war, including to continue funding it, since actually becoming a US senator and himself being subjected to the actual pressures in making a vote. When challenged about this, his supporters seem to suddenly have an understanding of the complications of such votes, the politics of them, and the lengths to which Pres. Bush will manipulate people to get what he wants.
While I want this war to end, I defended Sen. Obama on the funding vote. I also defend Sen. Clinton from the disingenuous attacks on her over her authorization vote.
Levin … wishes we were better at wiping out Iraqi nationalists …
P claims he didn’t know about Basra operation until a couple of days before. Guess he didn’t get the Cheney memo.
I don’t know if I can watch this, John McCain’s pandering and ass kissing is really trigeering my gag reflex this morning
Petraeus would have taken credit for Basra if it had been a success but since it was an embarrassing failure it is obvious that it was someone else’s responsibility, Maliki for example.
Hi Christy, Peanut, Lucky(!) and all.
Did anyone mention? The last chanter was applauded, and it might be worth replaying video some time. It looked as if the applause involved MORE than just “official” protestors.
Christy. Can we hope for anything of substance as a result of this hearing?
Just a teensy question. Do I gather we’ve practically given up hope of the Senators standing up and doing their jobs?
McBush now pretending that he’s the president and showing his tough management style with General Math.
Defend away but I’m not giving her any wiggle room. She voted for it. End of story
brandy helps
‘g’
Iraqi “desertions” and “underperformance” – or answered the calls for Iraqis not to kill Iraqis
Petraeus – boy genius of counterinsurgency – does not understand this basic truth
P still reading
Yep, those two should just get a room and leave the rest of us alone.
McCain trying in earnest to look presidential and attentive (how long can he keep it up?)
McCrazy trying to sound SANE
Thanks … I’ll add some to my Vodka right away …
Senator McBush says that Al Queda is NOT an obscure sect of shia….GOOD fuckwad!!
It doesn’t figure into his ‘math’ that way
McCrazy is t a l k i n g verrrry slowly
I might have to resort to an IV line to dull the pain faster
Posted this over at EW’s:
Did you read this in today’s Guardian?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..8/iraq.usa
and this on Iran:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..clearpower
Interesting timing on the document leak…
hahahahahahahaha
interesting Petraeus forgets Nasiriya which the Sadrists took during the fighting … and then tries to claim success in Baghdad (and since we don’t report on actual events in Iraq, who knows that we have laid siege to a major portion of Baghdad and are attackig the residents there)
Wish they had brought the new Iraqi flag that Crocka-shit is so proud of- then they could all sing the Iraqi school song and wave the flag.
You have company. It’s, he’s repulsive.
McCrazy fukking up
And Obama voted to continue funding it. End of story?
No.
I have no doubt that, had Clinton been president, we would not be in Iraq right now.
McCain: Mosul continues to be a battlefield.
Hey as does Baghdad and Basra. The 3 largest cities in Iraq. Progress is being made!
…..like the American colonists shooting at each other in Concord Ma, while taking fire from the Brits???
just now watching the “petraus and crocker show” dont know if i can take all this “give us more time, money and troops” as we’ve seen this act before………………
that would be the soon to be former Senator – Noriega is outpolling and out-fundraising him 2 to 1 !
Iran ,IrAn…Mccrazy trying to spin mightilly
but it was obviously invented. if i could figure that out – so could a sitting senator.
anyone who voted to give bush the option of invasion, voted for the war – because it was absolutely, positively clear that bush was going to war.
then how do you explain her vote against the levin amendment or the durbin amendment?
then the democrats are going to have to stop facilitating the continuation of the war.
i don’t object to framing, i object to spinning.
more later, if you wish, too much going on right now…. in the mean time you might was to give this long youtube a watch.
When McBush says “Or is that an oversimplification”, the answer is always: “Boy Howdy”!
Does McCain have a cold — or are his “s” pronunciations an odd speech issue today (denture/partial slippage)? I’ve never noticed that particular pronunciation tic with him, and I tend to think it may be whatever cold/congestion issues he may be having — he sounds stuffy…
It is unliklely that Maliki can get Parliament’s approval but we will probably bypass that constitutional step.
Iran link doesn’t work for me.
Go Ted!
McBus and betrayus are tickling each other’s tonsils with their tongues and crock ‘oshit is joining in for a threeway.
I wasn’t talking about Obama. I was talking about Clinton. I have not given anyone a pass on war votes. Hackles down.
new meds…to slooooooooooooooow him down and make him look thoughtful
McCain wants to talk about the Iranian threat … you know, the people who are more able to end conflict among their traditional enemies … peace in Iraq would be a major setback to BushCo’s plan …
no! please!
don’t make that a crime, or else i’ll have to go into hiding. *g*
oh………that step! Just an oversight!!!
Ha. Kennedy picked up on my line that P&C must be talking about some other Iraq.
Kennedy: “The president sees one Iraq and we see another.”
McHairtrigger
What a cutie! We got a puppy on Valentine’s Day, also a rescue, and we are having a blast! Now back to the hearing…
peace in Iraq would be a major setback to BushCo’s plan …
yup
Remember in all of the Iran Iran Iran talk that Sadr’s people are the ones who did *not* go live in Iran but who stayed and opposed Saddam while it is our allies Maliki and Hakim who went to live in Iran and who are Iran’s buddies. This will not be mentioned.
yipppeeeeee couldn’t happen to a bigger asshole. I wouldn’t have a cup sanka with him
….an open ended commitment for the resource known as oil!
Kennedy thinks we oughta tell Iraqis “You better get your act together cause we ain’t stayin here forever.”
Crockashit thinks we oughta say “Don’t worry, we’ll ALWAYS be here till ya get it right.”
McCain is a clown. He is obsessed with Al Qaida without which he may not have a campaign. There we go. P says al Qaida is the cause of unrest in Mosel and other groups. And the Iranian threat. What a crock.
Question: Why are the Iranians more successful in training military/militia than P was training the Iraqi troops. Secondly, how do the Iranian get these troops/militia over the border? training, why not guard the borders. Hummm!
Kennedy asking if the billions of dollars spent on training over five years got a good return on investment. No answer that I can see.
McCaincient and the grey men
perceptions vs realities, elites vs patriots Does “US” have contact with Al Sadr, behind the scene???
Go Ted Go !
Crockashit and General Math say that they didn’t discuss anything about Basra with Cheney.
P & C saying that Cheney never discussed the Basra operation with them. I believe them although I just noticed that their noses look about 6 inches longer.
Fresh Christy upstairs!
“…(denture/partial slippage)?… he sounds stuffy…”
thanks much. brought a chuckle thru the tears here.
visions of himself’s hellth aide and dental assistant dashing up to make the proper adjustments to the olde f. & perhaps wind him up just a tick more…
He doesn’t have a cold. What he probably has is early onset Alzheimer’s. I watched this in my father in law and it is truly tragic, I would not wish it on anyone. I think Joe Lieberman and the other McCain handlers are trying desperately to prop the poor old man up long enough to get into the White House. Then, George W. Bush has already set the bar for a disconnected Executive head to a backoffice managed administration.
Try this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..clearpower
Sorry, I have to “cut and paste”. With the new site the link icon causes my tube to shut down.
Hope this works…
Betrayus: let history be the judge.
Obviously learned his talking points from Bush.
What a farce this is.
I hope that all of those who voted for the Iraq War without reading the NIE (out of political expediency) and who later admonished those who did not like that fact to go find another candidate, will quickly withdraw from the presidential race without trying to make a deal to become Senate Majority Leader. What a nightmare are those who do not fulfill expectations, let alone hope.
What a great post Quaker Girl. You can say that again! MSM should be asking the questions you just asked.
Maybe he has Parkinson’s disease. You can have it with no twitching or shaking. If that is it, eventually no one will be able to understand any thing he says, it will all come out gibberish.
Mr. McCain is very stiff backed, wooden, as if his neck no longer worked. I saw this in my father in law; of course, I see it in Mitt Romney, too, so it doesn’t necessarily signify. But, also, the slurring of speech and continued misunderstanding of concept…that is hallmark early onset Alzheimer’s. The complete inability for the man to distinguish Sunni from Shia concerns (when, surely he’s briefed almost hourly), is a very disturbing sign. George Bush didn’t know the difference either, but he never even bothered to pretend to know.
It sounds like your dad had Parkinsons Disease too. My dad had Parkinson’s and at first his speech was a few slurs, after many years no one could understand a word he said, his speech was like babies before they learn to talk. Sounds came out but it was just gibberish. My mom had alzheimers and we could understand every single word she said even though it didn’t make sense. I don’t know why the article below says “subtle language problems”, my dad lived with the disease for about 10 years and like I said, no one could understand a thing he said. I’d call that severe language changes. He also would lean to one side and could not keep his balance and would fall often. But it you held his hand and walked with him then he was ok. Of course, at the end of both these diseases both parents died, in my opinion of starvation because neither could get food down. The muscles to do that didn’t work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson_diseaseyour dad had Parkinson’s disease too.