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This week the media will focus on the Congressional appearances of Ambassador Crocker and General Petraeus as though the nation’s security interests hinged on what they tell Congress. They do not. America’s security interests were compromised the moment Bush invaded Iraq; the laws of unintended consequences are now in control.
Even if we credit the surge with temporarily neutralizing Sunni forces (while creating further risks of civil war) that only set the stage for competing Shia factions to fight each other for control of Badghdad and Southern Iraq — with Bush using the fighting as an excuse to keep US forces bogged down in Iraq indefinitely. Fighting one side’s grab for power by laying siege to Sadr City’s million people risks hundreds of civilian deaths. (h/t Juan Cole via Bilbo)
John McCain will again try to justify the surge:
"We are no longer staring into the abyss of defeat, and we can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success. . . . The dramatic reduction in violence has opened the way for a return to something approaching normal political and economic life for the average Iraqi," McCain said.
Iraqis under siege in Sadr City will find McCain’s assessment delusional.
But debating whether the surge failed or succeeded is becoming pointless; the surge is ending and it cannot be renewed. The US cannot sustain 30,000 additional combat troops in Iraq or anywhere else, so those troops are coming home. President Bush’s claim that US troops could only "return on success" was a lie from the beginning, because the limits on available combat troops, combined with the stress of extended 15 month tours, defined a troop rotation schedule that requires the surge end.
Renewed fighting under McCain’s logic would dictate sending more, not fewer troops, but Petraeus must give up a combat brigade a month until July, whether al Maliki’s adventures in Basra and the siege of Sadr City succeed or make matters worse. Most of those troops must come home even though American commanders in Afghanistan are pleading for more NATO forces. The last nail in the coffin of military flexibility was hammered in when Secretary Gates and the deeply worried Joint Chiefs announced that returning to 12-month tours was a necessity. My guess is the Pentagon is demanding the shorter tours now as a way to prevent another surge, should McCain become President.
The Administration’s war against Iraq has broken the Army, damaged its readiness, broken their families. And we’re only now admitting the massive long-run health-care costs the war will impose on veterans, their families and the nation’s resources.
Pentagon chiefs have been warning of the Army’s deterioration for many months. They told Congress the Army was "out of balance" and that we could not respond adequately to another real crisis. Last week, Admiral Mullen acknowledged that we needed more troops in Afghanistan but had none to send because of Iraq. How much clearer could our military chiefs be that the Commander in Chief is putting the nation’s security at risk?
We’re forced to watch the Petraeus/Crocker show, but the men who should testify are Bush, Cheney and the war/surge’s champions, McCain, Lieberman and Graham. They need to answer Senator Warner’s question: How has any decision or action they’ve made in the last five years, including the surge, made the United States more secure? And just as important, How will continuation of these Bush/Cheney/McCain policies allow the U.S. to disengage from Iraq?
The Basra adventure is still unfolding but so far it has taught us two things: America’s strategic interests have nothing to do with whichever Shia party/militia wins control of Baghdad. Iran will strongly influence Baghdad no matter what, so any attempt to influence which of these more or less pro-Iranian elements prevails is not worth another American soldier’s life. Nor can we justify U.S. forces attacking Iraqis, military or civilian, in favor of one or another side. The continued U.S. air and ground assaults on essentially civilian areas of opposing militias contradicts the essential point of Petraeus’ counter-insurgency manual — protect the population.
Equally disturbing, American forces are now hostage to Shia political jockeying for power; the Iranian backed party that controls Baghdad can, simply by attacking opposing militias (as al Maliki did in Basra) force our commanders to commit U.S. lives to save the Baghdad regime from defeat. Today, it is al Maliki’s regime pretending to be Bear Stearns, while the Bush regime pretends it’s too important to be allowed to fail, even if the Iraq army’s loyalty is suspect.
It is pointless to raise these issues with Petraeus or Crocker. These men did what their Commander in Chief told them to do, which was to delay the U.S. from being forced out of country during Bush’s term. They were never asked to develop or implement a strategy to disengage, to end the occupation and the nightmare it creates for Iraq or the U.S. military. That is the only defensible goal of U.S. policy, but it will not happen until we have a new Commander in Chief whose ego does not depend on a 100-year occupation.



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So?
It’s true that you can’t hammer Petraeus with questions about the failures of the past five years, because he can just say he wasn’t there then. With one fell swoop, Bush erases history.
What about a list of past reasons for us being there, like “as they stand up, we’ll stand down”?
Wow, Scarecrow nicely said…
Good morning, Scarecrow. Thank you.
Well, at least Baghdad is now secure.
Don’t know how you keep pumping them out, Scarecrow.
I’d still like one of those droids to answer the questions:
What will victory in Iraq look like? How will we know we have achieved it?
The answers that I can imagine are too awful to cite.
Well, actually, I think talk of “victory” is delusional. Bush is staying in Iraq to save Bush’s face and McCain’s sense of honor.
I wonder what kind of threats they used against Admiral Fallon to keep his testimony out of the dog and pony show?
Good morning Scarecrow
Escalation, not surge. A surge is finite.
Occupation, not war. The war is already over.
typo up top: Congressional apperances should be appearances
Amid all the eye-raq talk, wonder how much media time Chuck Hagel will get.
Yeah, nada….
the media-military-industrial-congressional complex marches on, holding bloody hands….
Digg It!
Done.
Thanks Scarecrow.
Thanks. It’s fixed.
Informed Comment (Juan Cole) this morning describes, by way of Arab news sources, a humanitarian catastrophe in the making in the Shiite districts of Baghdad that are now under American siege. I guess we can hope this is hyperbole.
Morning Scarecrow,
General Jack Keane, (Ret.) on Washington Journal this morning stated that Al-Qaeda in-Iraq is essentially neutralized, but the generals don’t want to make it public.
At first I thought he said something he shouldn’t have, but later as he continued talking, it was clear – at least to me – that he was shifting the boogeyman status from Al Qaeda-in-Iraq to Iran. How can we possibly fight a bigger fight, even if we wanted to? of course you answered that in your post.
PS,
Seemed a fitting end to you statement…
“The media-military-industrial-congressional complex marches on, holding bloody hands….” with “executive oil,” into Sadr(ghetto)City.
But the surge is working, Scarecrow.
There’s surely been a surge of money into the coffers of profiteers, I mean, military contractors and vendors, yes?
I’m certain their lobbyists now employed by McCain have been providing all kinds of data to assure McCain that the surge has been great.
Sure, there may be some fungibles that need to be replaced, but still, profits are up!!
[blecchh…pardon me while I go and heave my guts after that nauseating bit.]
My question is do we have war crimes trials here or do we collect the evidence and turn it over to the Hague and ask them to render judgment?
I’m worried that if we conduct the trials here, the republics will declare that it is just a political witch hunt and those convicted will just become martyrs for their cause. It would become a regular tit for tat when the republics somehow regain power.
Can the Hague remain so neutral that when that happens we can confidently say bring it on without fear?
These republics hold grudges forever. So much of bush* is retaliation against FDR’s New Deal.
Over at Salon, Steve Almond, describes, How Slaughterhouse Five was born, and ends by eerily alluding to the similarities between Dresden during WW II and Iraq.
thanks for the heads up on Keane. I think we can assume that all the “I misspoke” incidents by McCain (Iran trains al Qaeda), Lieberman (al Qaeda in Iran) and Graham (the Iranians are behind the “bad” militias who are attacking the central government) — are all deliberate. They laying the ground work for maintaining US forces in Iraq as a check on Iran, if not a direct attack.
Bilbo:
Thanks for the Juan Cole tip. I’ve added his link to the post.
How much longer before the Draft comes back? Will I have to leave the Country with my kids before the become elligible? The Draft would sure allow for McCain’s Iraq “strategy” to go on for a long time.
It is ironic that we will all be asked to sacrifice our kids, but they will keep pushing tax cuts all the way (that is, sacrifice is for the idiots, not the ruling class).
Want the Draft again? Vote for John McCain?
It all belongs to the Hague, I believe. That’s why these criminals are safe, essentially, as long as they stay in country. We aren’t such big enforcers of such things anymore.
Elliott??? Sniff. ;=)
Good morning, all…
Just like Lyndon Johnson did, when he realized that VietNam could not be “won”…
…what’s a little blood to save someone’s pride??
Heh, well, you did get the hat tip in the post!
Sorry, I hit the wrong link; I correct it, and gave you a h/t in the post. Refresh.
Luvly moanin’ to y’all…the torch is out the surge is out , killing and mayhem are still in. The media still continues to under report the skullduggery of Republicans and over report McCrazy/McBush lies as the truth. Fascist corporate media led the charge into Iraq and now on to Iran. Lucky for us we have another crazy McBush wannabe dictator waiting in the wings.
I keep asking and I want the democrats to start asking;
“when did the goal become staying in Iraq?”
“when did coming home mean we lost?”
NEWS FLASH;
COMMING HOME IS THE VICTORY!
our soldiers accomplished their mission, they did everything asked and when the mission was changed they accomplished that mission
what is left is political it’s not military
OUR ARMED FORCES HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THEIR MISSION AND NEED TO BE REWARDED, THEY NEED TO BE RETURNED HOME
agree on the “with exec oil” add-on, but why limit to one locale. These guys will push this far beyond Sadr City.
Meanwhile (that asswipe) Douglas Feith went on 60 minutes last night and blamed everyone else for failures in Iraq, except Bush, Rumsfeld and himself. The crux of his whole argument (I watched the whole thing even though I felt like throwing my TV out the window) was that if he had been allowed to install Ahmed Chalabi right away there would not have been any problems. He went on to blame the military for the looting.
It is outrageous that people like this are not in prison for their deeds.
Hunt Oil C. Texas, has been selling trucking fuel to “corporate trucking” companies for 1.50 per gallon while the independent truckers are paying 3.50-4.15 a gallon. A “Oregonian” trucker traveling the southern route mentioned this to me in conversation. He indicated that the scope/severity of corruption runs so deep, Americans have not a clue. Milk’s price is regulated? Yet energy and its costs are in the hands of speculators!!!
Are there any legs to the “assertions” made by this very “American” trucker from Oregon. Sounds like “the surge” is working for Hunt Oil and the corporate trucking firms in the Texas area?
Yeah, I saw that interview, too. The utter nerve of that guy–and is it just me, or did he have something of a smirk on his face?
Feith blamed the military? Iraq’s or Ours? Meaning they should have provided security? But Feith was in DoD and in charge of strategic intelligence — where’s his memo warning that looting was likely?
later on today Keane’s segment will be up on CSPAN
And it’s outrageous that they are given a platform to spew their venomous, self-serving lies by 60 minutes and the rest of the MSM. That’s why I don’t watch news on television and haven’t done so since very shortly after Bush came into power. I saw this was going to be on and Mrs. Bilbo may have watched it. I’m not sure.
US Military. It was the US Military’s fault for not deciding to stop the looting (never mind that they had strict orders to do nothing).
Daily Kos has a diary on the Feith interview:
Updated: Feith falls flat on ‘60 Minutes’
Good Morning Scarecrow and Firedogs -
baffling in that it’s just a click away (the charts change, pdf warning for those who click on them)
Chairman Spratt also sits on Armed Services Committee and may have a question or two for the good general this week
ON Feith on 60 Minutes
I can’t remember how I came to this page this morning, but I’d like to share it with my fellow pups
Debunking Douglas Feith: 60 Minutes Liveblogging
Well, I’ve almost finished editing this post; should be ready any minute now.
Good morning everyone. This is surge week. Everyone do more faster.
McCain: Iraq No Longer Abyss of Defeat
Time for my drizzly morning walk. See y’all later.
McCain: Iraq No Longer Abyss of Defeat
He prefers “Eternal Chasm of Undefinable Victory!”
* snort *
We will no longer refer to it as the “Abyss of Defeat”, but the “Money Pit”.
Has the ring of success to it, don’t it?
And we are no longer to call it “Abject Failure” but “Improved Profitability”.
Hence forth strike out all references to “Agonizing Heartbreak” and replace with “Normalcy”.
I swear the man is running for pharaoh.
I learned all I ever needed to know about Kagan from Gilliard
“We are no longer staring into the abyss of defeat, and we can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success,” McCain said.”
We have turned another corner, the insurgency is in its last throes, we need to stay the course, mission accomplished, as they stand up we’ll stand down.
Monkeys will fly outta my ass.
Why we are not taking to the streets, torches & pitchforks in hand over the above is beyond me.
$4 per gallon gas is bullshit. The WSJ had an article last week pointing out oil stocks are at a 15 year high.
I repeat a 15 year high.
So much for supply and demand being the cause of higher prices at the pump.
where’s the light at the end of the tunnel
crikey – wrong linky above – sorry
Damn, I knew I forgot one.
Yes, I was impressed with Croft’s interview questions. He’s not usually that pointed.
As noted, Feith denied that the administration ever said there were WMD’s.
It’s the plummeting value of the dollar that’s caused the price increase at the pump. Not only are we losing our jobs, but we’re taking a pay cut.
And in no small part because we can’t borrow enough money fast enough for the war.
How much longer before the Draft comes back?
How long would Vietnam have lasted without the draft? While providing jungle fodder, the draft also filled the streets of America with protesters. Where are they now in such numbers and dedication?
Will I have to leave the Country with my kids before they become elligible?
Else, take to the streets and end the threat to your children?
The Draft would sure allow for McCain’s Iraq “strategy” to go on for a long time.
Can you not imagine the draft as an effective check on the wasteful expenditure of life? An “all-volunteer” army of “heroes” is terribly dangerous if killing and mayhem are the motivators of those who volunteer. My experience many years ago was that draftees certainly checked the joyful enthusiasm of excess exhibited by RA (volunteers).
I sincerely think the draft would be the fastest way to end all wars except the most existential threats. And all contract armies should be outlawed.
I’ll concede the dollars’ drop in value has hurt, but speculation in oil futures contracts is the biggest culprit.
And is the most easily corrected.
As JamesJoyce pointed out above, we regulate the price of milk, but not oil.
How insane is that?
“The surge is ending, and McCain’s speech is only relevant as a measure of how far out of touch he is.”
Will Lieberman be there to correct St. John when he fucks up (yet again)?
I, personally, am looking forward to Meghan’s analysis: “Dad gave a major speech today on Iraq and it was, like, totally awesome.”
Today is another day of talking about Bush’s Iraq war and another day of not talking about Bush’s family not serving in his war…not even token service. Mission Accomplished.
It’s an abyss of victory, dammit!
I was watching a local station (3Sat) yesterday that had a day’s programmes devoted to 1968 – a noteworthy year here in Germany as everywhere else in the world.
There was an extract of a speech Ronald Reagan made on Veteran’s Day 1967 or 1968 when he was still Gov. (I think it was in Oregon). I couldn’t believe my ears – to paraphrase, speaking about the Vietnam War:
“We have to fight them over there so that don’t have to fight them on our coast”.
Can it be that 40 years later, the same argument is being use to defend another unjust war?
I hope someone can find the excerpt, it would be perfect to use against McSame because we all know that Vietnam invaded the USA after you lost in Vietnam!!
That would make Meghan a great successor to Jenna/Barbara. Gotta love the Republic continuity on all levels.
You know, I really hate to defend anyone whose last name is “Bush”, but I saw Jenna on one of the late night talk shows a little while back, plugging her book, and I have to say I was impressed. Maybe it’s just the “soft bigotry of low expectations”, but she came off as a poised and mature young woman. She seemed like she’s grown up a lot over the last 8 years, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for her father.
Please don’t lump us all together. I was raised by conservative republican parents.
I’m not saying I’m the most liberal person in the world, but I’m certainly not like the Jenna and Barbara Bush’s of the world…
The surge has not neutralized the Sunni forces. The Sunni forces are stronger and better equipped than ever before, with the benefit of US military training now (which should mean more effective shooting: no more “spray from the hip and pray”). Read Nir Rosen. He gives a good rundown on the surge myth. That article will tell you all you need to know about what, exactly, our surge has done (and is doing).
so why aren’t any democrats asking “when did staying in Iraq become the goal?…when did leaving Iraq as soon as possible become the a lie?”
oops, didn’t mean to click “respond to your post boggiecheck, ,my 62 is randomd
skullduggery ?
meant to link this for you earlier -
The List (h/t C&L)
Sorry. She is disgusting. Period. The Bush girl’s response to why they are not in Iraq, not serving in the military, is all one needs to hear to pass judgement on their “caliber”. They’re blanks – they have no caliber.
Not a problem.
Why are these defeatist Republicans refusing to acknowledge we already won the war and it’s time to bring our troops home?
In the Valley of Elah…your assignment for this week.
yes.
More on the Feith interview:
It was reported that Feith supposedly slipped memos of his own making to Bush with false information to encourage war.
60 Minutes reported this was not illegal.
How is this not a criminal act?
In the Valley of Elah…great movie. I saw it, got my wife to watch it, then I bought the DVD. The ending was particularly hard-hitting (to me at least as a vet).
there must be a bush executive order that says;
“lie to me so I can compete the sick and maniacal plans of the PNAC”
that would make it not only legal, but mandatory
IMDB link to the movie
Hard-hitting to me, too, praedor…as a parent, and as someone around long enough to see the impact of Nam on vets and families. Back then my father-in-law successfully argued what may have been the first PTSD defense for a vet charged with killing a cab driver during a winter storm drive. Still haunts me, that.
We owe our troops and vets honor and judgment, not craven corruption, incompetence, and reckless gut instincts. Worst. Presidency. Ever.
the film is based on the murder of Specialist Richard Davis –
– wiki
CBS News
thank you Scarecrow
McCain should have knowledge of Iraq given his experience in Vietnam. It’s called a quagmire, and if Nixon had gotten us out instead of keeping us there McCain would have been a POW for about a year and a half not 5 and a half years.
It’s not just oil futures speculation, though; all commodities are rising in prices because of speculation, further reducing buying power of the dollar.
Why speculate in commodities?
Because there’s no place else to put the money.
– At least one major investor projects a possible 5 million foreclosures inside the next two years if there is no legislative action taken to change the subprime mortgage crisis;
– Major corporations will take a hit to profitability when their own financial investments take a nose dive in value without legislative action;
– More jobs will be lost as corporations try to salvage earnings on the backs of employees, cutting further in to consumer spending as unemployed ranks swell.
And so on; if there’s urgent legislation that needs to happen it’s not oil speculation.
I think this is a good place for congressional Dems to start as they gear up for the Second Coming of General Petraeus:
http://tomdispatch.com/post/17…..d_the_trap
– Never said it was just oil futures; it just happened to be the point of my comment.
– I’ve got no issue with speculation in commodities in and of itself. My problem is allowing 30 to 1 leverage to speculate in oil futures, which is driving oil prices needlessly higher. Cut back on the leverage and you automatically cut back on the amount of oil futures contracts bought, and therefore the upward price pressure.
No disagreement on the need for urgent legislation re: the foreclosure crisis, but we shouldn’t downplay the need for corrective measures regarding oil prices either.
We need both.