Comments on: We’re all common people now http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:46:42 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372643 MarkH Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:02:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372643 <blockquote><p>Good morning Attaturk! Love this: “…1.8 percent classified it as a success.” Bah hahahahahahaha! Hysterical.</p></blockquote> <p>I’d say that would give them an ‘F’ in History.</p> <p>I wonder how many of those are already on the Right-Wing Gravy Train.</p>

Good morning Attaturk! Love this: “…1.8 percent classified it as a success.” Bah hahahahahahaha! Hysterical.

I’d say that would give them an ‘F’ in History.

I wonder how many of those are already on the Right-Wing Gravy Train.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372633 MarkH Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:55:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372633 <blockquote> <p>last year my company had it’s worst economic year in it’s 46 year history, for the first time ever we lost money</p> <p>this year we are 14 percent behind those numbers’</p> <p>one of my suppliers from canada told me, “perris, we are not going to raise prices on you this year, because the exchange rate is already going to kill you, if we raised prices on top of that you might be put out of business”</p> <p>and he is correct, I could no longer sell my product if the price increase included both exchange rate and supplier increase</p> <p>we are in very tough times and we can survive possibly one more year without a turn around </p></blockquote> <p>What kinds of products?</p> <p>Aside from the exchange rate what specifically is killing your company?</p>

last year my company had it’s worst economic year in it’s 46 year history, for the first time ever we lost money

this year we are 14 percent behind those numbers’

one of my suppliers from canada told me, “perris, we are not going to raise prices on you this year, because the exchange rate is already going to kill you, if we raised prices on top of that you might be put out of business”

and he is correct, I could no longer sell my product if the price increase included both exchange rate and supplier increase

we are in very tough times and we can survive possibly one more year without a turn around

What kinds of products?

Aside from the exchange rate what specifically is killing your company?

]]> By: gannonguckert http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372622 gannonguckert Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:48:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372622 <p>I’ve lived most of the last 30 years in California, deeply politically active for half that (Dem cand for state leg, etc.), and I seriously think a 2010 ballot initiative to fire Yoo would be a great, wedge-issue vote-getter.</p> <p>The proposed statute could cutely set up conditions requiring his dismissal, or even name Yoo specifically. Completely legal.</p> <p>Any Repub attack on the initiative would just highlight the despicability of the Bush era. Probably get us a few House seats.</p> I’ve lived most of the last 30 years in California, deeply politically active for half that (Dem cand for state leg, etc.), and I seriously think a 2010 ballot initiative to fire Yoo would be a great, wedge-issue vote-getter.

The proposed statute could cutely set up conditions requiring his dismissal, or even name Yoo specifically. Completely legal.

Any Repub attack on the initiative would just highlight the despicability of the Bush era. Probably get us a few House seats.

]]> By: helena http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372497 helena Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:11:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372497 <p><a href="http://www.chris-floyd.com/content/view/1471/135/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chris-floyd.com/content/view/1471/135/</a>–<br /> (if this doesn’t work, just go to chris-floyd.com and scroll down.)</p> <p>read this post everyone. It’s about the foreign policy goals of one of the Democratic Party front-runners. It’s about a speech last week.<br /> Read it!</p> http://www.chris-floyd.com/content/view/1471/135/–
(if this doesn’t work, just go to chris-floyd.com and scroll down.)

read this post everyone. It’s about the foreign policy goals of one of the Democratic Party front-runners. It’s about a speech last week.
Read it!

]]> By: BargainCountertenor http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372495 BargainCountertenor Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:10:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372495 <blockquote><p>but fired? a tenured full professor? have you ever seen such a thing (not asking for names or anything, a yes/no answer is good enough).<br /> reply</p></blockquote> <p>I’m not ecahn, but I’ve seen it happen twice. It involves lots of pain in the system, and essentially requires outrageously bad conduct on the part of the professor. A felony conviction will do it, short of that there isn’t much that will.</p> <p>One thing that hasn’t been noted is that Yoo was hired at Boalt 15 years ago, so he worked his way to Professor pretty quickly. His J.D. was 1992, so he was hired at Berkeley right out of Yale. What ever happened to having an advanced degree before you start teaching in higher ed? (NB: A J.D. is the basic law degree, LL.M. and LL.D. are the graduate degrees in law.) Apparently being hired into Senate-confirmed gigs is good for your law-school faculty vita. Even more interesting, his vita is not on the Berkeley website. Curiouser and curiouser.</p> <p>BC</p>

but fired? a tenured full professor? have you ever seen such a thing (not asking for names or anything, a yes/no answer is good enough).
reply

I’m not ecahn, but I’ve seen it happen twice. It involves lots of pain in the system, and essentially requires outrageously bad conduct on the part of the professor. A felony conviction will do it, short of that there isn’t much that will.

One thing that hasn’t been noted is that Yoo was hired at Boalt 15 years ago, so he worked his way to Professor pretty quickly. His J.D. was 1992, so he was hired at Berkeley right out of Yale. What ever happened to having an advanced degree before you start teaching in higher ed? (NB: A J.D. is the basic law degree, LL.M. and LL.D. are the graduate degrees in law.) Apparently being hired into Senate-confirmed gigs is good for your law-school faculty vita. Even more interesting, his vita is not on the Berkeley website. Curiouser and curiouser.

BC

]]> By: rdwdkw http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372458 rdwdkw Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:10:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372458 <p>Thanks Raven I needed someone to mention fishing this early,everything else can wait.</p> Thanks Raven I needed someone to mention fishing this early,everything else can wait.

]]> By: wigwam http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372349 wigwam Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:23:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372349 <p>Donors have a lot of leverage, especially leverage to get their kids admitted. To get a tenured professor fired is extremely difficult, especially at the top public universities. Witness today’s NYT article claiming that for the first time in its 123-year history the University of California has fired a tenured professor — that for multiple counts of sexual harrassment of students, which is explicitly listed at “unacceptable behavior” in UC’s faculty code of conduct.</p> Donors have a lot of leverage, especially leverage to get their kids admitted. To get a tenured professor fired is extremely difficult, especially at the top public universities. Witness today’s NYT article claiming that for the first time in its 123-year history the University of California has fired a tenured professor — that for multiple counts of sexual harrassment of students, which is explicitly listed at “unacceptable behavior” in UC’s faculty code of conduct.

]]> By: JLML http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372348 JLML Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:22:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372348 <p>Forgive the redundancy but … Rove will manufacture a Democratic scandal days before the election. The voters will “unexpectedly” turn against the Democratic candidate with the assistance of electronic vote tampering and the pollsters and gullible press will rationalize the presidency of John McCain, to be followed shortly by the presidency of his fascist, right-wing religious stooge when McCain resigns for health reasons. Alternatively, there will be another terrorist attack. Bush will declare a national emergency and over the objections of our governors will send what’s left of our National Guard to other states (that is, Georgians to Massachusetts, Alabamians to New York, New Yorkers to Montana ) which he can now do thanks to recent legislation. They will be “supplemented” by well equipped, legally immunized foreign para-military. The Constitution is now well and truly dead and the world’s largest arsenal is now poised against the rest of humanity.</p> Forgive the redundancy but … Rove will manufacture a Democratic scandal days before the election. The voters will “unexpectedly” turn against the Democratic candidate with the assistance of electronic vote tampering and the pollsters and gullible press will rationalize the presidency of John McCain, to be followed shortly by the presidency of his fascist, right-wing religious stooge when McCain resigns for health reasons. Alternatively, there will be another terrorist attack. Bush will declare a national emergency and over the objections of our governors will send what’s left of our National Guard to other states (that is, Georgians to Massachusetts, Alabamians to New York, New Yorkers to Montana ) which he can now do thanks to recent legislation. They will be “supplemented” by well equipped, legally immunized foreign para-military. The Constitution is now well and truly dead and the world’s largest arsenal is now poised against the rest of humanity.

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372346 SouthernDragon Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:20:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372346 <p>On what grounds could Yoo be disbarred? I doubt outrageous legal advice/opinion would lead to such action. I’ll be in a nursing home before he’s ever charged with a crime in connection with his writings. Yoo probably wrote the one other memo we know exists on this subject. It’s referenced in the latest memo and is included in the ACLU’s current FOIA request. UC Berkeley may be able to dislodge him based on his written material being “not in the best interests” of the university, similar to the Ward Churchill dismissal but without the witch hunt aspect, although the lizard brains would shout witch hunt from every rooftop. Students refusing to sign up for his course(s) would send a clear message to university officials.</p> <p>I like Raven’s idea. Think I’ll go catch me some mercury laden sheephead this weekend.</p> On what grounds could Yoo be disbarred? I doubt outrageous legal advice/opinion would lead to such action. I’ll be in a nursing home before he’s ever charged with a crime in connection with his writings. Yoo probably wrote the one other memo we know exists on this subject. It’s referenced in the latest memo and is included in the ACLU’s current FOIA request. UC Berkeley may be able to dislodge him based on his written material being “not in the best interests” of the university, similar to the Ward Churchill dismissal but without the witch hunt aspect, although the lizard brains would shout witch hunt from every rooftop. Students refusing to sign up for his course(s) would send a clear message to university officials.

I like Raven’s idea. Think I’ll go catch me some mercury laden sheephead this weekend.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372331 selise Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:00:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/04/were-all-common-people-now/#comment-1372331 <p>ecahn - i’d expect the leverage to be more of the kind that would prevent him from getting a good endowed chair, or the best office space, or classroom space. the kind of thing that can drive someone crazy and make them want to go elsewhere. but fired? a tenured full professor? have you ever seen such a thing (not asking for names or anything, a yes/no answer is good enough).</p> ecahn – i’d expect the leverage to be more of the kind that would prevent him from getting a good endowed chair, or the best office space, or classroom space. the kind of thing that can drive someone crazy and make them want to go elsewhere. but fired? a tenured full professor? have you ever seen such a thing (not asking for names or anything, a yes/no answer is good enough).

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