Earlier this week, Latina Lista reported that the Department of Homeland Security, under the direction of Secretary Michael Chertoff, was tired of going through the legal channels to satisfy Texas border residents who are fighting the intent to build a wall along the southern U.S.- Mexico border.
So to speed things up he has decided to forego a few laws (30 of them) to get things moving.
In a transcript of a roundtable discussion that Sec. Chertoff had with some bloggers yesterday, he admits that the law is just in his way.
Question: Can you give us an update how things stand with the fence? I know there was some big news yesterday.
Secretary Chertoff: Well, we've got about 310 miles built -- about 170 of pedestrian fence and about 140 of vehicle fence. We're on track -- I want to get 670 miles done by the end of the calendar year, of which 370 will be pedestrian and 300 will be vehicle.
To do that, although we want to be respectful of the environment, we cannot afford to get enmeshed in the kinds of litigation that have traditionally caused projects to take decades to complete...
Unfortunately, that's what working through our judicial system means. Look how many innocent men have sat on death row waiting to be exonerated because of all the litigation that had to be endured to reach a just conclusion?
Yet, that's not the most disturbing item from this transcript. Reading the transcript, which was released as a press release, and is only a partial transcript at that, not one blogger is identified.
The strangeness of this situation immediately waves red flags.
Before the government releases a bogus statement about protecting privacy, there exists something in the blogosphere that is an universal truth - no blogger wants to be anonymous, especially if they were lucky enough to score an interview with a high-profile individual like Chertoff.
Real bloggers would make that a headline post and it would have surely been "talked" about in the blogosphere. Strange that I ran across the item by accident doing a news seach on Chertoff.
Given the track record of this administration that sees nothing wrong in staging press conferences, I tend to believe that this may also have been the case - though I don't have any proof but a lot of circumstantial evidence.
From the questions themselves, it shows these "bloggers" were not objective but almost seemed to be buddies with Chertoff.
There are a number of us who blog about the DHS exploits and yet, not one of us was invited or alerted to this roundtable discussion. Odd or maybe just a way for Chertoff to claim his department is reaching out but - not really.
If Chertoff and the DHS are serious about meeting with bloggers then they should contact those of us who have been blogging about what they do.
In this way, real questions will be asked because we're still waiting for real answers.
Update: a commenter at LatinaLista added a comment about the original post. It's interesting that apparently one of the bloggers was from the Heritage Foundation. Doesn't that make you feel better?
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Good for you Rachel !
Zed! but its been so long?
The Clintons tithe! good for them. 10% to charity.
Hah, McBuush was booed in Memphis today! Aloha, Marisa!
Why bother to stage a fake blogger interview, when did the blogs get White House Credit?
Welcome, Marisa. It’s seems the folks at DHS are very good at holding phony press events.
And generally, the only projects that take decades to get a permit are ones that shouldn’t be built. That’s the whole point of those laws that Chertoff just waived.
Should Jane and Christy apply for White House press passes?
Don’t think that would go through in this administration.
What a great idea! That should turn Dana’s hair snow white. Would love to see it.
Drudge, LGF, Captain’s Quarter and the whole gamut of reichwingers would’ve been trumpeting their attendance if they’d been invited…!
Really bad combover on Mark Penn. Yet another strike against him. One of the countless numbers of them.
Why would they feel the need to have a fake blogger round-table? Most of the blogs on the right have been quite faithful at reproducing the appropriate WH and right wing talking points. The stenographers in the TradMed couldn’t do it any better.
Ok how will this wall stop immigrants unless you got people watching the wall 24/7 because ladders, wireclippers, and boltcutters are pretty cheap in Mexico.
Hi Everybody,
As you saw in the update, one of the bloggers at this roundtable session contacted me to tell me it was all legit. However, the others were, as you already know, from the Heritage Foundation and CNET - I’m still not buying this.
Why not Homeland Security apparently trusts the Blogger community LOL!
Rachel’s doing a really good job. Let’s hope that some “powers that be” take note.
Look what happens when McCain is not able to completely select his audience in advance. Bad idea to wait forty years to apologize.
Amen, Marion, I’d much rather have her than Tweety or Gregory!
bloggers was from the Heritage Foundation. Doesn’t that make you feel better?
Sure just give us a name we can talk to after all we try and confirm our sources and stories unlike the Judy Miller prowar school of Journalism.
Heh, like Shrub’s inability to pre-screen the Nats fans, eh? ;-)
Jonathan Alter, “it’s not the job of the media to be critical of McCain,” (but ok for the media to try to destroy any democratic candidate.)
Can you just see how pissed off Tweety would be if she were to get one of his slots?!?!?!?! I’d buy tickets to watch that—from behind a plexiglass firewall, of course.
Perhaps because even the Rightwing bloggers wouldn’t publish a crock like this?
No wait they would…hmmm I’m stumped.
Touche’
He’s never been our friend. I don’t know that I can think of any story on KO in which he had anything of substance to add.
In fairness, the guy who commented did provide names. He blogs at Homeland Security Watch (http://www.hlswatch.com/) and he did write up about the roundtable.
Save that quote for when we move to bring back the ” Fairness Doctrine” to the media.
So are you satisfied that this was a real story although the attempt at secrecy was lame? Its your call your post or do you need something more to convince you?
He wrote this…
to answer your question, “No”
Hi Marisa and thank you.
I would like to hear your opinion of Michael Chertoff. I often refer to him as the most incompetent man in Washington, from observing his maladministration of the DHS. If the DHS does do something well, other than goof up at great expense, I have yet to see it.
Marisa — do we know what kind of public announcement went out about the conference? Who got the notice?
I just read the commenter’s post he made in prepping for the roundtable. He said that this was the second such roundtable and that each blogger is only given enough time to ask one question.
That’s not a roundtable, it’s as staged as you can get or as spontaneous as this administration can be - depending on your viewpoint.
I still think the story stands.
The transcript of the meeting can be downloaded from the bottom of this post…
http://www.hlswatch.com/2008/0.....emplative/
McBlogosphere reality….Elvis really does live there, I mean, there he’s really alive and people are suspended in time like fetuses in jello.
Rachel said Keith is going to cover Habeas Corpus. I wonder if Keith is the guest tonight.
Everything they do in public is staged. That’s their MO. The real damage they do it takes a lot of effort to uncover. It will take us years to begin to clean up the mess these crooks are making of the country.
I never heard one bit of noise about this roundtable. My opinion of Chertoff is of someone who disregards laws and regulations to bulldoze his “appointed” authority. He’s stated that he wants his biggest initiatives done by the end of the year - before Bush ends his term.
What a legacy this team wants to leave.
Hot Damn Rachel is Brilliant!!!!! She got the 2-bit congressman in even before The Worst Person in the world segment.
They just showed a new John McSame commercial here in PA. You won’t believe the AWFUL picture they used of him at the end!
Thanks, CTuttle! I’ll read that when I finish up the rest of the internet!
No he just didn’t… Did anyone else catch that McInsane 3 AM ad…?
Now, THAT would be cool!
One thing we know about Rachel—she’s smart as a whip and knows what she’s talking about. Can’t say the same about too many talking heads on the teevee.
yep. Gross.
Heh, you and I both! It asked if I wanted to download it, hell no! But, I thought I’d be neighborly…! *g*
Um, yep…. Pitiful.
Yeah grow the economy not government, but McCain was part of the GOP majority that grew government during the Bush years to its largest size ever. John needs to learn how to tell a lie…that might be believed.
Saw the same one here. And the message was a flat lie — that the Dem candidates’ answer to housing crisis is “they want to raise your taxes.” It’s not even close to being debatable. A flat lie. And Jonathan Alter will tell us it’s not the media’s job to point that out, but the Democrat’s job.
Rachel started out a bit nervous, but the confidence is building. She’s really good.
Marissa, I hope you can find out for sure if this “roundtable” occurred. It would be fun to spread the word that they made this up.
I still have Yoo’s 81 pages of garbage on my hard drive that I need to scrub off and sanitize…!
Can anyone imagine Rachel running a panel of talking heads!!!
I know, you’re a great sport. How’s your blog coming along. I would like to read it if you have a new article.
They are courting the anti-immigration vote. No problem using tax dollars to do it with.
Then they’d better start doing it. And LOUDLY. Then they might get some coverage focused at McSame instead of at BO’s smoking or Hill’s attacks on BO.
Jonathan Alter is a useless appendage to this show.
It’s posted! Click on my name!
ABSOLUTELY. And she can invite Buchanan and totally take control over him.
“Biographical ‘think of me when you think of war’ tour.” Brilliant!
I’m assuming the roundtable did take place. The bigger problems are who was invited, the basis of that selection, the format of the roundtable and why this didn’t receive better publicity.
She has her momentum going now. I think she was looking too close at copy and trying not to miss her ques.
Please, Sweet Jesus, don’t EVER make me watch McSame try to do comedy EVER, EVER, EVER again… That was agonizing.
Nice post, CT. Sounds like the rats can’t decide which ship to desert - my popcorn is just waiting. :)
Britannia ruled the waves and Cherty waives the rules.
rules are for the little people.
Good point. And screw the environment even further. But, if you’re Ray Hunt, you don’t need no fence. You get to build a resort city on BOTH sides of the border.
Is this the same Hunt brothers who tried to corner the silver market years ago?
And McSame looks like—
(drumroll)
Nikita Khrushev!
At least I’ve always thought there was a resemblance..
Thanx, I plan on more about Yoo, I didn’t even touch Marcy’s or Christy’s posts…
Excellent. I wonder how many miles of fence Chertoff gets built will have to be torn down because it will be found that he acted outside the scope of the law.
Punaise would be proud!
The very same. And the guy working with the Kurds in Northern Iraq on oil…
Yes. As well, they are I believe the Hunt Oil that contracted with the Kurds against the wishes of BushCo a couple of years ago.
I mean these Hunt brothers…
But Senator Graham just said that John McSame has been better on the environment than Al Gore.
“Climate change is the road less traveled but he’s traveled it even more than Al Gore,” Graham said. “Al Gore has talked about it and deserves great recognition but he was around here a long time and never introduced a bill.”
OMG. Wolcott hits one out of the park.
Spew Alert.
Please pardon the off topic:
CT I’m getting an error message when I try to comment over at your new place. It was polite and everything.
Well, except Nikita looks so much younger…
same here
He was.
Rachel is doing fine. I think she said she was nervous. She’s smart,
speaks clearly, and she has manners. She can slay some of the idiot
talking heads with facts - well spoken.
I like how she handled the McHenry item. It was better placed in the
program that Worst Person.
Gggooo Rachel. I hope MSNBC’s ratings are way up tonight and she’ll get her own show.
I’d like to suggest a few other spots Joke Line could stick it…!
Yes, it is the same family.
Hmmm… Still some glitches, I’ll check with JoFish!
Don’t know if you all are aware of it but Texas border residents are in an all-out fight with Chertoff about his insistence in building the fence. There is talk of passive disobedience in light of the equipment that will be brought in to start building the fence.
Had I been at the roundtable, that would have been one question I would have asked - just saying.
KO’s special commentary on Habeus from Oct. 10 2006 on now.
I thought some New Mexico and Arizona residents were also fighting it…!
A “Heritage Foundation blogger”, isn’t that oxymoronic in the same sense as “Military Intelligence” or perhaps more apropo, “Jumbo Shrimp”?
I’ve had a graphic of a tombstone with “RIP Habeas Corpus” and the dates (1215-2006) on my office door since the day they took that away from me. I also have on there that habeas was murdered by Bush. [SNARL]
Heh, speak of the devil! ;-)
Basically a sub pond in the steno pool.
Would be a kind line of questioning in light of Cherties aggressive disobedience of 30 laws.
Comments? Just use the Haloscan linky… remember to turn it on. Native MT commenting over there is off because of, well, comment spammers.
Egregious, what message did you get?
this is gonna get more and more brazen, they don’t want law, they will set every single presedence to prove they are indeed above the law
WHAT THE FRIG DOES IT TAKE PELOSI?
REMOVE THESE DESPOTS FROM POWER WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME
The biggest bulk of those opposing and throwing roadblocks to Chertoff’s efforts are in S. Texas.
Strange how that isn’t covered, huh?
Pelosi views this as a problem for her eventual re-election. She so desperately wants to be “loved” as the mostest bipartisanist First Female Speaker… she can’t see that her do-nothing attitude has fostered much of the ongoing illegality.
History will not be kind to her. Provided the fascista are not writing the books and teaching the classes (which seems all to likely anymore) her role and Harry Reid’s role will be the American Political equivalent of Neville Chamberlain, except their motto will be “Bipartisanship in our time”… yeah we know how that turned out for Neville, looks like Nancy will have the same result.
I’m covering it :)
Okay. Rachel did a great job, now it’s back to work for the private client…
Hey, what kind of a joint employs you?!
the more they are exposed, the more brazen they become, the more laws they break in the light of day, the more they know they can break.
there is no stopping this coupe, they are above the law
let me ask something, I want everyone to take a long, desperate look at the next question;
does anyone…anyone here, believe these parasites, these bigots, these masagonists are going to forfeit this power to a black man, a women, or both?
I cannot believe we are allowing this to happen, each and every single crime should have gotten our buts in gear to remove these two from office, each and every one
yet they remain in power, stealing more of our infrastructure, stealing more middle class assets, destroying this country, her integrity, her ability to defend her self
yet they remain in power
the time is long past, long LONG past, the democrats need to march into pelosi’s office and have her step down, she is inept, she is the peter principle defined, she has risen to the position to which she is not capable
she must step down, the grownups have work to do
Thanks for that. I meant MSM. Thanks, Marisa.
CT, just fixed a template for you, now you don’t have to worry about setting the comments to “open” anymore. It’s the default. I love Moveable Type. :)
I do a 7:30 to 4 every day for an ENT practice with one of the best ear surgeons on the East coast, and I have a private client who specializes in sinus disease. (I’m a medical transcriptionist, been doing it for 30+ years.)
Here’s what it returns: Internal server error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator [snip] Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
And this was like two minutes ago, theoretically after you set the template to open comments.
Did you try commenting in the Moveable Type comments or in Haloscan? MT Comments have been disabled at the request of the hosting company from a DDOS attack a few years ago. Lurch and I set up haloscan after that, and have not had any issues since. The Haloscan link is up next to the permalink at the top of the post. Let me know.
Sorry for the difficulty… :( but I appreciate your letting me know.
Had been trying MT. Good ol’ haloscan ~ It accepted the comment, but I don’t see it yet. Do you screen them?
It should be against the LAW for persons having dual citizenship to hold a senior departmental appointment in our government. One cannot swear an oath, nor be faithful to two masters.
“does anyone…anyone here, believe these parasites, these bigots, these masagonists are going to forfeit this power to a black man, a women, or both?”
The pertinent part of your post.
When the New Pearl Harbor became a reality, those who had a hand in its conception were placed in our government, oftentimes in positions that obfuscated accountability.
No, perris, I too believe the neo-cons will NEVER give up that which they have so long dreamed of having. Anybody who thinks these people are just gonna roll over and play dead are living in La-La Land.