After last week's Operation Maliki Impersonates Bush went like, well Maliki impersonating Bush, the Administration Spin Merchants knew where to go and lie and not get called on it...
MR. RUSSERT: Were you aware of it?
GEN. HAYDEN: I was--in terms of being prebriefed or, or having, you know, the, the normal planning process in which you build up to this days or weeks ahead of time, no. No, I was not.
MR. RUSSERT: You didn't know it was going to happen?
GEN. HAYDEN: No more so than Dave Petraeus or Ambassador Crocker did.
It's the 'Ivory Snow' of bullshit, almost 99.9% pure.
Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker first learned of the Iraqi plan on Friday, March 21: Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki would be heading to Basra with Iraqi troops to bring order to the city.
But the Iraqi operation was not what the United States expected.
Isn't the non-anticipating to be expected by now?
...interviews with a wide range of American and military officials also suggest that Mr. Maliki overestimated his military’s abilities and underestimated the scale of the resistance. The Iraqi prime minister also displayed an impulsive leadership style that did not give his forces or that of his most powerful allies, the American and British military, time to prepare.
“He went in with a stick and he poked a hornet’s nest, and the resistance he got was a little bit more than he bargained for,” said one official in the multinational force in Baghdad who requested anonymity. “They went in with 70 percent of a plan. Sometimes that’s enough. This time it wasn’t.”
No wonder Maliki & Bush get along so well, for Bush it's like seeing himself with Ringo Starr's beard. I can't help but have the theme for The Patty Duke Show go through my head (John McCain loved to watch that show with his grandkids back in the day, sharing Werther's Originals).
Now this New York Times article has three different authors, Michael R. Gordon, Eric Schmitt and Stephen Farrell and we all know about Gordon. For years it has been apparent that for Michael Gordon, the best way to maintain access is to uncritically report what is fed to him by the Administration. You can see glimmers of "Gordonism" throughout the piece such as:
The operation indicates that the Iraqi military can quickly organize and deploy forces over considerable distances. Two Iraqi C-130s and several Iraqi helicopters were also involved in the operation, an important step for a military that is still struggling to develop an air combat ability.
Why thank you Bush Flack on Petraeus' staff, I hope Gordon let him proofread to make sure this paragraph was exactly right.
Any other ass-covering Mr. Gordon can help you with?
According to one American official, General Petraeus conveyed the message that while the decision was in the hands of the Iraqi government, “we made a lot of gains in the past six to nine months that you’ll be putting at risk.”
Ah, that will make Fred Kagan jowls shiver with joy.
But the best part of the collaboration between Gordon and two other reporters are these paragraphs:
In Baghdad, Mr. Crocker lobbied senior officials in the Iraqi government, who complained that they had been excluded from Mr. Maliki’s decision-making on Basra, to back the prime minister’s effort there.
“I stressed the point that this was a moment of national crisis, and they had to think nationally,” Mr. Crocker said. “Because nobody should think that failure in Basra is going to benefit any element of the Iraqi community. The response was good. I have not found any element of the Iraqi government that will admit to being consulted.”
Maybe there's bad editing there -- maybe the New York Times hired Kathryn Lopez and we are just detecting her editing talents in action. But not admitting to being consulted seems kind of like a bad thing.
Any other bright ideas we have had to make things better in Basra?
The Americans also encouraged Mr. Maliki to proceed with his plan to seek an alliance with the Shiite tribes, as the Americans had done with Sunni tribes in the so-called Anbar Awakening.
“We strongly encouraged him to use his most substantial weapon, which is money, to announce major jobs programs, Basra cleanup, whatnot,” Mr. Crocker said. “And to do what he decided to do on his own: pay tribal figures to effectively finance an awakening for Basra.”
And Maliki did so, but as Marc Lynch noted, he apparently did it in the worst possible way. His job program was hiring 10,000 Shiite militias opposed to al Sadr, after firing police suspected of being aligned with al Sadr:
...the new Badr inductees are meant to replace the ""thousands of police members and officers who allegedly refused orders to take part in the fight against the militiamen of cleric Moqtada al-Sadr." Instead of strengthening the state's capacity in Basra, this would become simply another move in the intra-Shia power struggle: exacerbating not just the sectarian but the factional identity of the security forces, alienating rather than reaching out to the Mahdi Army, and all while doing nothing to bring Basra residents closer to the state. While this wouldn't be much of a surprise, given the way Maliki has always operated, it would radically reduce the prospects that anything constructive can be salvaged from the last week's bloodshed.
And who will not anticipate that?
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timmeh!
So?
LMAO Attaturk! Great post.
Morning Attaturk. Sorry not even close. Can you imagine whineybushboy going anywhere near a military conflict? This is the spoilt brat that got scared of the National Guard for chryssakes. The little weeny prefers a good whipping from Condiinboots while watching torture movies.. the little shit.
Mornin’ Nomolos. Sun is out! Love it. ;-)
Going to work now. Have a good day everyone!
Have a great day yourself. Love the sun while it is here. I understand it is going to snow again in 7 months
By my read, there are three factors that reduced violence in Iraq:
1) The al Sadr cease-fire
2) Paying off Sunni tribal leaders to keep them out of al Queda
3) Imprisoning tens of thousands of Iraqis
Not one of these is sustainable or contributes in any way to an eventual exit strategy for us. The events last week in Basra and Sadr City show us that al Sadr can increase and decrease violence on his word alone and that al Maliki and US Troops are powerless to stop him. Meanwhile, the Sunni groups continue to accumulate money and weapons. That will be the next thing that Petraeus, Crocker, Bush and al Maliki failed to anticipate. When these guys cut loose, look out. Finally, the number of Iraqis that have been rounded up and put into detention camps where they are almost certainly subjected to routine torture is producing many more radicalized enemies if and when they ever are released. This consitutes a gift from the fu**wads running this show that will keep giving to us for many years to come and likely will pose the biggest problem for our next President.
Doesn’t the informality with the Military leaders seem a bit odd? “Dave” Petraeus, “Pete” Pace, I’m willing to bet that FDR never once referred to “Ike” Eisenhower or “Chester” Nimitz. Did Harry Truman ever talk about old “Doug” MacArthur? Did LBJ speak about “Bill” Westmoreland or “Creighton” Abrams?
What’s up with old “Dave”? Trying to give him a veneer of humanity or something?
Actually FDR was fairly informal. Except with George Marshall who even FDR always referred to as “General Marshall”.
However, there is one difference between the two men. One is General Hayden, the other is PRESIDENT FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT!
Channeling the David vs Goliath thingy I think
Am I the only person who sees Hayden on TV and thinks there should be a condom over his head?
No…
He looks like General Homer Simpson.
I always think “Charlie Brown”, and want to see him in a zigzag tshirt!
And who could have anticipated this (from the AP/Kansas City Star):
Insane McCain admits that Saudi Arabia is sponsoring terrorism, speaking on MSNBC (owned by General Electric which pushes Nuclear power all the time).
Neo-con Mornin’ Joe, asked Crazy about petro dollars to Saudi Arabia. Crazy’s answer, “There is no doubt some of that money ends up with terrorists.” But Crazy made no promises to fight THOSE terrorists in Saudi Arabia. Prince Bandar and the Bin Laden family have supplied Al Qaeda financial support. If the terrorists did not exist they would have to be invented. In fact the terrorists were invented by the neo-cons and Oil Companies to conquer the Mideast. BLOOD FOR OIL!
Gains? Not so much. “Dave” and “Ryan” will be back next week for another round of propaganda in Congressional hearings. I put together a little piece yesterday comparing the GAO report on Iraq benchmarks in September, 2007, an update prepared in January of this year by the Center for American Progress and a few thoughts of my own based on the Basra and Sadr City adventures of last week. I think a strong case can be made that in terms of the 18 benchmarks in the bill authorizing the surge, the situation now is actually worse than it was last September. Click on my name for the full analysis (and feel free to add comments with more information or links and I’ll put them in updates).
I think the convention has always been that officers don’t refer to each other by first names or nicknames in the presence of enlisted men or the public, as it would tend to reduce respect. It’s sort of like adults not referring to each other by first names when talking with children. You see it in the movie Patton, with all the Monty, Brad, Ike, and George stuff among each other, but not in public. I think only George. C. Marshall’s wife (and perhaps not even her) referred to him by his first name.
So, I think Hayden’s reference to Dave is an effort to be folksy. Now, I guess he’s supposed to be the general with whom the public would would most like to drink a beer.
Pups can watch yesterday’s hearing at CSPAN:
Senate Foreign Relations Cmte. Hearing on the Political Situation in Iraq: (April 2, 2008)
link to watch
Per AP’s Liz Scott:
The next day, March 25, Slate’s military-affairs editor Fred Kaplan published an article entitled: “What Does Bush Mean by ‘Victory in Iraq’?”
There you have it. At the beginning of the surge, that was THE STRATEGIC GOAL. And, per Kaplan:
So, exactly what substitute for victory are McCain and Petraeus pursuing this time?
So, I think Hayden’s reference to Dave is an effort to be folksy. Now, I guess he’s supposed to be the general with whom the public would would most like to drink a beer.
Perhaps an effort to soften his image with the general puplic in preparation for the announcement of him as McBatshitinsneasshole’s running mate.
There was one other factor, ethnic cleansing. The Sunnis were driven out the Shiite neighborhoods and vice versa.
I agree. With 4 million displaced, we have thoroughly trashed the place and getting these people back home will not be easy or peaceful.
On thing I find disturbing is how blase the war supporters are about this massive displacement of people. The warmongers never seem to put themselves in the Iraqi’s shoes. McCain’s a prime example of this.
In short: it’s just a finger in the dyke. Too bad so many are dying and it’s mortgaging the future of my children.
I’m astounded! i assumed they filled up with gas bought by the US Govt!
The DESC *is* part of the US Govt — but they apparently can’t get terribly good prices in the marketplace these days. Imagine that.
We have to stop the the mainstream media from their incessant claim that McCain was prescient about the success of the surge. McCain has been fantasizing that the surge is working. What has changed is that they’ve joined in on his fantasy. But, it’s all bullshit! Thus far, the surge has failed in bringing us any closer to its declared goal of a stable and democratic Iraq that’s an ally of the U.S.
From my cursory reading, i thought the troops were paying for gas out of pocket.
“About the Gas prices.
Halliburton KBR does buy the gas at discount Iraqi prices, but sells them at much higher American Market prices.
The reason isn’t because of greed, it’s to give the soldiers a little bit of home.”
- Halliburton KBR Public Relations Department
From how things have turned out since 2003,
it’s clear that there was an Iranian mole in the Administartion
from the start.
Any guesses as to who?
Do you mean other than Chalabi?
OT: Glenzilla hoists the 9/11 Commissioners and the mainstream media on the horns of a dilemma:
By and large, you’re right, but FDR did refer to Dwight Eisenhower as “Ike,” if the latter’s references to it in “The Crusade for Europe” are accurate. Both to Eisenhower in person, and when referring to him to others.
Damn, that’s terrible.
Don’t forget
Building 12 foot high walls to seperate neighborhoods in Bagdhad
Cheney meets with Maliki and days later he starts a military offensive, this from the Maliki government that is know for it’s inability to do anything.
This action has Neo-Con written all over it; now is the time to strike now that we have the support of the Sheiks that we paid off.
If by some miracle Maliki had succeeded the US military would have claimed a major role in the offensive.
9 more months of this dangerous crap from the Bushies
and we sure can’t stand four or eight years with McSame
morning all
a FEW families are stealing YOUR social security,and the rest thats in the treasury
Good Morning Mr Attaturk and Firedogs,
Iraq’s al-Sadr calls for million-man march:
link
my standing apology if prev posted
why are we letting….BigDick steal our future????????????
this is criminal
mornin’ cbl, all I can say is
*sigh*
Why isn’t the whole country RAGING about this?
gawdamighty
the war was not get more oil…..it was to escalate the price
a lot of peeps hold 2 jobs+ parenting,and no time to even reflect
Christy has a brand new post ready for us, even if I just got up and am in the middle of reading this one.