Jane!

Damn. Almost Zed. Hiya Jane!

Goldfarb: Smug, pustulant gasbag. Impervious to fact.

I blame this on the Clintons

“Who would you like to see schlepping boxloads of signatures to the FEC?”

Russ Feingold

Nice takedown, Jane.

i blame the North Vietnamese

schlepping boxloads? how about martin sheen or some other suitable media magnet star? up the ante for getting media coverage on the event.

laws are for the little people….or hobbits

Ted Turner

That Goldfarb guy is quite the right-wing frame artist. I can’t believe he’s the mouthpiece for the weekly fishwrap. Oh, wait a minute. Yes, I can.

and what is with ABC/Disney….they are so anti dem

ps…ABC/Disney hates …HATES Obama…imo

Very nicely done, Jane! Goldfarb was quite outmatched.

Wingtard mouthpieces find safety in ignorance.

Wow, this Rich Brahm won’t last long on the Rat Channel — he made Goldfarb’s life kinda tough on air, and tossed Jane a coupla sweet softballs, too, getting right into the discussion about the FEC complaint.

Clearly not a koolaid drinker.

Wingtard mouthpieces find safety in ignorance.

Not today, it seems.

I like Rich a lot. Keep trying to get him to post on FDL.

yea ABC aint gonna like that….and Jane is fast on her feet….lightning round

Hey Jane, is Michael Goldfarb any kin to John Goldfarb? /s

he likes you too,you can tell…,wonder how long before they give him talking points

where do they find the endless supply of bullshitterz?

((Jane)) You ROCKED!!!!!

Who would you like to see schlepping boxloads of signatures to the FEC?

Senator Obama

Re; the Wright stuff. This is from another member of Rev Wrights church…

http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....4760.story

Nice Job Jane! Goldfarb comes off a cocky person, smug in his mouth.

i loved when he said he posted a lot of information on his site,and then said it was all GRAY….hahahaha,lots of dubious information…sound familiar?

Jane - that was one of the most elegant smack downs I’ve seen in a while. I think what a lot of the chattering class are missing is that once Obama is the nominee and people actually start seeing him and McCain together it is going to be pretty obvious who the smart one is. And I for one think that the smart people are going to win this one.

Woo hoo Jane! Knocked it out of the ballpark.

If Goldfarb could spin for a minute longer, he would have become a Category 5 Tornado … his sweater was the right color … way to slap him with facts, Jane …

How about if Howard Wolfson and David Axelrod carry the next round of petitions to the FEC, chained together like the snarling beasts they have become?

and when in doubt,ERR on the side of CAUTION…and bomb the shit outta them….

Facts to Wingnuts are like Holy Water to a Vampire. Proof positive is in Jane’s dowsing of Goldfarb. I was just waiting for him to dissipate like the vamps do in BTVS.

JTWS? Jane the Wingnut Slayer?

well if Jane is gonna be on ABC…ill have to….tune back in,she is GOOD for ratings

I just watched the video, Jane. Awesome. God, let’s get you on the airwaves more often. And Rich Braham was excellent as well. You go, girl.

When does this program Unconventional Wisdom appear? Is it a national program or just DeeCee?

I think Jimmy Carter has some experience in helping nations observe the legalities of the elections process.

I think Jimmy Carter has some experience in helping nations observe the legalities of the elections process.

We need him right here at home.

hey jane–

that was a question i have about this–come the general election, if he goes with the public financing, can mccain even use public financing now that he over his spending? since that is a violation?

or are the primary and general cycles separate?

do you have to apply separately for each?

or, once he is in it, which i believe he is, he has to stick with that, right? in the general? isn’t he bound by that?

(and i sent letters all over about this one but stayed away from this aspect, not well versed on it.)

I second Martin Sheen!
And thanks for doing this, Jane.

Sorry — I was suggesting he might be a good person to deliver those signatures to the FEC.

Maybe Oprah would deliver the petitions.

With Bill Clinton.

Primary financing and general election financing are completely separate. You can opt in for one and out for the other, go in for both, or stay out for both.

like the Annie Lennox look, Jane…

Excellent job, Jane! I admire you people who can think on your feet under that kind of pressure. (Beautiful suit jacket too!)

“The absence of evidence doesn’t mean the evidence of absence,” Goldfarb said when talking about a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda. This is utter sophistry. An unctuous quip. But I like to think that most people are smart enough to see through these kinds of comments.

Bravo, Jane. Your response to the Obama charge was spot on. One more name on the petition.

I’d nominate HRC, but she’d show up with all the signature/petitions and claim it was all her idea, and then trash Obama for not doing the same thing.

What does Russ Feingold have to say about McCain breaking the McCain/Feingold law?

teddy at 31-”How about if Howard Wolfson and David Axelrod carry the next round of petitions to the FEC, chained together like the snarling beasts they have become?”

chuckle…(what’s the emoticon for a chuckle?)

ohhh, teddy, i liike that one….don’t let them ’comment’ though.

(and our local high school hockey team, athens high school, won the state championship this year, just heard, is a small town here, but lots of good hockey players, male and female…quite an accomplishment)

“The absence of evidence doesn’t mean the evidence of absence,” Goldfarb said…
________

I beg to differ.

Watertiger could do one of her handstands at the FEC!

What does Russ Feingold have to say about McCain breaking the McCain/Feingold law?

Good question.

peterr at 43—thanks, one last nuance question— if he is in violation for primary can he get it for the general?

he is in violation until they have a quorun and vote that he isn’t in violation.

thanks.

“The absence of evidence doesn’t mean the evidence of absence,” Goldfarb said when talking about a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda. This is utter sophistry. An unctuous quip. But I like to think that most people are smart enough to see through these kinds of comments.

Goldfarb would make for a hilarious district attorney, wouldn’t he? “The utter lack of evidence against the defendant does not mean that you, the jury, should find him not guilty!” Yeah, that would go over well.

I could picture a tall man in a rumpled suit coming up to the desk with all the boxes. “Sorry — these were dropped off at my office in Chicago by mistake.”

When approached later, he refuses to elaborate further, as does his spokesman.

– What does Russ Feingold have to say about McCain breaking the McCain/Feingold law? –

McCain-Feingold is NOT about the the public financing system for political campaigns. McCain-Feingold is about private contributions of soft money.

The public financing system for political campaigns is a completely different law, passed in 1973, amended since a couple of times.

What Punaise said…

And Jane, thank you so much. “All we want are the facts, ma’am”.

– if he is in violation for primary can he get it for the general? –

Yes. Each system stands on its own. The penalty for violation is “handled” and the world goes on. Campaign finance penalties are amazingly common, and the offenders just pay the freight and keep going.

quoru’m’ nuance’d’

Jane wears what Cindy McCain should be wearing…attractive chic,and understated…tres chic

The phrase “cost of doing business” comes to mind when I think of the fines levied.

How the FEC will sort out the McCain mess if and when they have a quorum will be something to behold.

Congratulations! TRex lives in Athens too.

Jane DROPPED Tarzan so hard on his “head” it rendered him deaf! To bad he was not rendered mute also! Temporarily, of cause..he he. No Tarzan there………

thanks peterr and cboldt

got it.

“After evaluation of extensive clinical trials, we find no evidence that the petitioner’s patented cardiac drug works as intended. However, absence of evidence not being evidence of absence, we hereby approve it.”

FDA under Bu’ush.

loo hoo—ohio!

betcha McGiggolo hasent written a personal check in 25 years

That and “… Obama wants to have a conversation about a conversation …” are simply attempts to sound smart, as opposed to someone who has real smarts … and I think Rich was trying to hide a chuckle …

Thanks.

Didn’t realize there was an Athens, Ohio!

last questions cboldt and peterr–
you opened another door-

who is liable for the fines? the campaign? or the responsible party, mccain?

what if no money left in the campaign by the time they levee the fines? then is he responsible personally to cover it?

… and I think Rich was trying to hide a chuckle …

I wonder why?

– How the FEC will sort out the McCain mess if and when they have a quorum will be something to behold. –

I think it’s a slam dunk against him. He hopes it doesn’t happen and become news at an inopportune time in the election cycle. The financial penalty is trivial (20 grand) and he has no real risk of going to jail over the violation. so, the only substantial risk is to his election prospects.

Not that the fact he’s a weasel is surprising. He’s a Senator. Nobody gets into the Senate without being a weasel.

– who is liable for the fines? the campaign? –

Yes, the campaign. A campaign that takes public money is also liable to return funds not properly spent / accounted for. It’s legal to raise funds to pay the penalties too. All in all, not much deterrent effect.

The campaign.

Often, it gets covered by donors, some of whom get a special appeal letter to help out.

“Help us retire the debt that was foisted upon us by an activist FEC. We’re having a dinner and you can get a seat at the table for only $10K . . .”

Kind of like the beloved Scooter Libby Defense Fund.

personal,respoonsible are not in the repuklican vernacular

– what if no money left in the campaign by the time they levee the fines? then is he responsible personally to cover it? –

The FEC “applicant” is a corporation that represents the campaign. It’s solely liable, AFAIK.

hahahahahaha responsible spellcheck my friend

Loo Hoo,
Did you see this about Darrell Issa?

– Didn’t realize there was an Athens, Ohio! –

There’s one in Georgia too. And there is a Moscow, Sweden, Denmark and Paris in the state of Maine.

loo hoo–yep, se corner. where ohio university is located. you know, the one that doesn’t like showing up on the ’top party schools’ list.

rural here, beautiful. love the people. everything from rastas to geeks to self-sufficient ’folks’…..best farmer’s market in ohio. hands down. 1 hour from west virginia or kentucky.

famous hocking hills area of ohio.

I did! I sent it over to Robert Hamilton. Heard it on KFI radio out of Los Angeles too. Whoo Hoo!

thanks, cboldt, at 77 that’s how i read it, needed another opinion.

sadly–neither is ’honesty’ or ’accountable’ but we keep holdin’ them to those, too, don’t we? : )

bbl

What a moron.

peterr at 75–Kind of like the beloved Scooter Libby Defense Fund.

probably the same mailing list.

OMG i can’t believe i forgot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

heard a guy on the radio today that was communications director for one of mccain’s presidential campaigns…….

spillin’ cheap talk…talkin’ his little heart out.

said that mccain uses ’my friend’ when uncomfortable and doesn’t like someone.

uses my good friend when he hates the person.

or very good friend.

so, if uses very, very good friend, watch out.

he was serious, i was cracking up and couldn’t believe it!

sorry, don’t remember his name. google it.

Jane’s use of the facts just crippled poor goldie. goldfarb is as good as they have now, he doesn’t look like an idiot as much as incompetent when he agrees that mccain broke the law, he just moves the conversation to show McStray doesn’t have to follow any stinking laws. I think that it will be the new mantra of faux, “who cares if he broke the law?” It refers to so many of their guests now. It is clear the GOP is now totally concerned with breaking the laws to maintain power. If you will notice, it is all that they have done for the last 8 years. The old guard all look foolish now for what they have said over the years. It is going to require a lot of new pundits to save the grand ol’ parasite now.
There will be martial law unless the military stands down and refuses, as well as many other government agencies, so be ready. You know they can’t let democrats win an election and start the investigations if they have any power left.

please post the results. this is too good not to share. He is too old a horse to change his tactics, so we should have a lot of laughs as he points out his “friends”

Puravida at 5:

Great minds think alike! It has to be Senator Feingold.

oldtree–i meant someone else google it…

i’m a chicken runnin’ around right now, but, you’ve provided me with many links, so, i am googling right now…….am in the middle of packing, but will try to find it, cuz it was ’big’ to me……..

for the reasons you stated, for starters.

i only had the radio on a few stations today, so, i’ll try. (i scan the radio dial, all the time.) i’m thinkin’ it was npr, because that shocked me more, the station i was hearing it on……

old tree—-found it, but it was also on the air.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/.....on_to.html

Good job Jane! You did great. I suggest you develop a few quick “one liner” talking points jabs for McCain when appearing on TV for short periods of time like the “We’re going to be in Iraq for a 100 years.” They are effective when apperaing on shows facing wingnut responders. Things that stick out in a voter’s mind like when goldfarb said, “Reverand Wright blah, blah..”

You did an excellent job of getting the point across about McCain’s violation of the campaign finance law in a short explanation.

Score!

I don’t think you were smirking at the end of the clip, but you’d have been entitled. You simply rock the house, Jane. Well done.

AWESOME job, Jane!!!!