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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371327</link>
		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That said, engineers have been severely hosed by H-1Bs. The consultants advising companies on how to avoid hiring Americans are beyond despicable! The continuing BS from Gates, Dell (who I once worked for), HP and the rest that the people who once worked for them, when they did very well, btw, are no longer good enough, is absolute crap! There are literally thousands of qualified American engineers who are unemployed or underemployed while they are bring in H-1Bs who they can hire at 3 for the price of 1 American. It is total Bullshit!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like immigrants &amp; I heartily endorse the words on the Statue of Liberty, but I used to like being an engineer, too! I also liked making enough to live comfortably on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That said, engineers have been severely hosed by H-1Bs. The consultants advising companies on how to avoid hiring Americans are beyond despicable! The continuing BS from Gates, Dell (who I once worked for), HP and the rest that the people who once worked for them, when they did very well, btw, are no longer good enough, is absolute crap! There are literally thousands of qualified American engineers who are unemployed or underemployed while they are bring in H-1Bs who they can hire at 3 for the price of 1 American. It is total Bullshit!</p>
<p>I like immigrants &amp; I heartily endorse the words on the Statue of Liberty, but I used to like being an engineer, too! I also liked making enough to live comfortably on.</p>
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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371315</link>
		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to point out that our sailors didn’t have it any better in that era. In fact they were alloted less cubic foot per man than a federal prisoner. This &lt;a href=&quot;http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v166/110/91/728726154/s728726154_592528_1406.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;is typical&lt;/a&gt; of the accommodations on a &lt;strong&gt;modern&lt;/strong&gt; destroyer type combatant of that era. The older men of war or the submarines were much worse. On my first ship, a WWII vintage destroyer, 15 men lived in space where there wasn’t 18″ between the racks and they were made of canvas lashed to aluminum frames.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not saying the way they were treated was right, just pointing out the prevailing nautical standards of the time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to point out that our sailors didn’t have it any better in that era. In fact they were alloted less cubic foot per man than a federal prisoner. This <a href="http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v166/110/91/728726154/s728726154_592528_1406.jpg" rel="nofollow">is typical</a> of the accommodations on a <strong>modern</strong> destroyer type combatant of that era. The older men of war or the submarines were much worse. On my first ship, a WWII vintage destroyer, 15 men lived in space where there wasn’t 18″ between the racks and they were made of canvas lashed to aluminum frames.</p>
<p>Not saying the way they were treated was right, just pointing out the prevailing nautical standards of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371296</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;is going on in other countries, too…….conscription workers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Iraq &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and don’t forget 3+ years ago Bush’s last minute  flip flop on signing UN Convention against sexual slavery - not just to protect Saudis and Kuwaitis in their crimes against children - it was determined the language of the Convention could be interpreted to include conscription &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and they say he doesn’t do ‘nuance’&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>is going on in other countries, too…….conscription workers.</p>
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<p>Iraq </p>
<p>and don’t forget 3+ years ago Bush’s last minute  flip flop on signing UN Convention against sexual slavery &#8211; not just to protect Saudis and Kuwaitis in their crimes against children &#8211; it was determined the language of the Convention could be interpreted to include conscription </p>
<p>and they say he doesn’t do ‘nuance’</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371295</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;elliot–  : P&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;!you know it! : )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ha.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and tula, i was serious at my 14–not being allowed to change employers, no matter what, seems that policy/law is in direct conflict with the indentured servants’ act or whatever it’s called.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bbl&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elliot–  : P</p>
<p>!you know it! : )</p>
<p>ha.</p>
<p>and tula, i was serious at my 14–not being allowed to change employers, no matter what, seems that policy/law is in direct conflict with the indentured servants’ act or whatever it’s called.</p>
<p>bbl</p>
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		<title>By: TeddySanFran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371294</link>
		<dc:creator>TeddySanFran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I want a government that favors the working people!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a government that favors the working people!</p>
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		<title>By: Tula Connell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371293</link>
		<dc:creator>Tula Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very nice of you, Elliott.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just saw this item on McCain at one point opposed making MLK’s birthday a holiday:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/the-complicated.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit.....cated.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice of you, Elliott.</p>
<p>I just saw this item on McCain at one point opposed making MLK’s birthday a holiday:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/the-complicated.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit&#8230;..cated.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371291</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(packing that spunky bullhorn?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you Tula, your posts are inspirations.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(packing that spunky bullhorn?)</p>
<p>Thank you Tula, your posts are inspirations.</p>
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		<title>By: tw3k</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371290</link>
		<dc:creator>tw3k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Shades of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ownership_society&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ownership society&lt;/a&gt;. I guess that Signal International is a stakeholder in Bush’s word view.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;…if you own something, you have a vital stake in the future of our country. The more ownership there is in America, the more vitality there is in America, and the more people have a vital stake in the future of this country. - President George W. Bush, June 17, 2004&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shades of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ownership_society" rel="nofollow">Ownership society</a>. I guess that Signal International is a stakeholder in Bush’s word view.</p>
<blockquote><p>…if you own something, you have a vital stake in the future of our country. The more ownership there is in America, the more vitality there is in America, and the more people have a vital stake in the future of this country. &#8211; President George W. Bush, June 17, 2004</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371288</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;tula says-”After working for a year in essentially bonded servitude—the current guest worker program forbids workers to change employers, no matter how bad the conditions”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i thought  that having ’indentured servants’ was illegal…i can’t think of the law……wonder why that isn’t being used.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;many of these peoples’ families sell their land, relatives take loans against businesses and their homes to pay for their family member to come to america.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;they are ruined, affecting all of them and the fate of some affects their entire village.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;many lose the land that is their sole source of income and migrate to the city and are forced live in slums/camps.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the ones that are here illegally are sent back, often owing money to their employer, and they are broke, unable to pay back the loans that were taken out to pay for their trip here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is going on in other countries, too…….conscription workers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;another great post, tula.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(i’ll be in and out, packing, going out of town.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tula says-”After working for a year in essentially bonded servitude—the current guest worker program forbids workers to change employers, no matter how bad the conditions”</p>
<p>i thought  that having ’indentured servants’ was illegal…i can’t think of the law……wonder why that isn’t being used.</p>
<p>many of these peoples’ families sell their land, relatives take loans against businesses and their homes to pay for their family member to come to america.</p>
<p>they are ruined, affecting all of them and the fate of some affects their entire village.</p>
<p>many lose the land that is their sole source of income and migrate to the city and are forced live in slums/camps.</p>
<p>the ones that are here illegally are sent back, often owing money to their employer, and they are broke, unable to pay back the loans that were taken out to pay for their trip here.</p>
<p>is going on in other countries, too…….conscription workers.</p>
<p>another great post, tula.</p>
<p>(i’ll be in and out, packing, going out of town.)</p>
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		<title>By: oldtree</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/i-am-a-man/#comment-1371285</link>
		<dc:creator>oldtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If we can’t end slavery, humanity isn’t worth keeping around.  We can hope that the species survives and evolves into something worthwhile.  It is not showing any signs that it will regret rubbing itself out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we can’t end slavery, humanity isn’t worth keeping around.  We can hope that the species survives and evolves into something worthwhile.  It is not showing any signs that it will regret rubbing itself out.</p>
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