Chris Matthews, serious citizen, is concerned about Barack Obama’s bowling score
Discussing Sen. Barack Obama on the April 1 edition of MSNBC’s Hardball, host Chris Matthews asked Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO): "Let me ask youabout how he — how’s he connect with regular people? Does he? Or does he only appeal to people who come from the African-American community and from the people who have college or advanced degrees?" Earlier in the show, referring to Obama’s bowling performance at a March 29 campaign stop at Pleasant Valley Lanes in Altoona, Pennsylvania, Matthews teased the segment with McCaskill by asking, "[C]an Obama woo more regular voters — you know, the ones who actually do know how to bowl?" … "[T]his gets very ethnic, but the fact that he’s good at basketball doesn’t surprise anybody, but the fact that he’s that terrible at bowling does make you wonder."
Granted I almost certainly wasn’t alive the last time Chris Matthews hung out with regular people (whatever do you suppose he means by ethnic?), but as it happens there’s been a bit of a demographic shift since the people bowling were what you (or anyone but Chris Matthews) would call regular
Sixty percent of bowlers in the U.S. earn their living in professional fields where they have daily interaction with company managers, executives, marketers and others who drive corporate America. Six out of every 10 bowlers have some college education, and 25.3 percent have a college degree.
So let’s unpack the numbers, shall we?
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Number of bowlers in the USA |
70 million (37 million male, 33 million female) Source: Simmons Research 2003 |
| Number of youth bowlers (those 17 and under who bowl at least once a year) |
24 million Source: Simmons Research 2003 |
OK, so that’s about a quarter of bowlers with degrees, and a little more than a third who are too young to vote, which leaves you with about thirty percent of bowlers who are eligible to vote who don’t have college degrees (keeping in mind that comparatively few people have college degrees before they’re 21 or so).
How’s that stack up?
College Degree Nearly Doubles Annual Earnings, Census Bureau Reports New information from the U.S. Census Bureau reinforces the value of a college education: workers 18 and over with a bachelor’s degree earn an average of $51,206 a year, while those with a high school diploma earn $27,915. Workers with an advanced degree make an average of $74,602, and those without a high school diploma average $18,734.
According to new tables released on the Internet titled Educational Attainment in the United States: 2004, 85 percent of those age 25 or older reported they had completed at least high school and 28 percent had attained at least a bachelor’s degree — both record highs.
So by the time they’re 25, the average american has a slightly better than one in four chance at a bachelor’s degree. The average bowler, on the other hand, has a 25/70 chance, which is to say rather better than one in three. All those working-parent-magnet bowling alleys in the suburbs, I guess.
That Chris Matthews. Except for the knowing anything about the working class, he’s a real working class kind of guy.
Sheesh.
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Julia!!!!
Woohoo!
and so on and so on and scooby dooby . . .
Hey.
oooooh, sha sha.
Aloha, Julia!
Chris Matthews would make a fool of himself in a working class bar, and then get the crap beat out of him.
tweety may be concerned about obama’s bowling, but i’m concerned about the possibility of an attack on iran.
for those of you on iran watch with me. here’s the latest on carrier location (map, list). the USS lincoln is on it’s way to join the USS Truman in the fifth fleet.
Hey, you.
Not my usual night. I’m still a little in Eschacon recovery.
I, personally, cannot envision voting for anyone incapable of bowling at least 150.
/snark
Yikes.
I think I wrap the ridiculous around me sometimes so I won’t get obsessed with the scary stuff, but damn, the scary stuff is really scary.
hey julia, excellent post (even if you are still recovering)
isnt it about the same in the general public?why is Chris Mathews paid to spew such crap,when our country is in deep dodo….10,000,0000.00$ a year down the drain
They could have substituted a bowling tournament for one of the earlier debates. that would have helped.
and hiya Julia!
You must be a bowler! Rather defensive of their status, eh? ;-)
msnbc should can matthews and donate what had been his salary to local food banks in all of msnbc’s markets. that way, the money goes to a good use
GREAT EFFING IDEA…lets start a letter campaign
bowling? but he can play some hoops so where does that fiure in with regular folks (irregular folks love it)
ever see a grown Tweety cry?
Not really. I’ve never been any good at it.
I sort of attribute it to the class issue of being blind as a bat.
Hey there.
sorry – please return to the ridiculous with my blessings. just want to what i can (in case cheney gets his way) spread the word that no matter what happens if we get in a shooting match with iran, it was by design and choice.
and again his SS guys let some whacko guy real close to him today,within touching distance…wrong!!!
i saw that, very disturbing. Believe it or not it is being characterized on some blogs as O blowing his cool.
I’d love to see Obama take on Tweety in a triathlon:
Bowling, which Tweety no doubt figures he’d win;
Hoops, in which Obama schools Tweety big time;
and, for a tie-breaker . . . curling.
Heh, it helps if you can see the pins…! ;-)
the whacko guy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..94694.html
I have a masters degree. I am NOT regular people.
OK. Done being pompous. Now back to the real world. Good evening y’all!
nobody should ever get that close to him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hey whats cookin?
Howdy, Tex!
Evertime any journalist anywhere says ‘regular people’, they should have to define that. I think they mean the FoxNews audience.
yes, yes, excellent run on these numbers Julia -
this community is packed with men of his age, background, education level – I can’t think of one of them who would ever say – “this gets very ethnic” what is that ? 1963 ? 64?
Tonight’s cake is a fairly obvious choice.
LMAO the first time I saw that was the last winter olympics and mr wobbs leaned over and said, “This makes no sense, you yanks must have come up with this”
eggselent!
i thought it was fitting.
I too have a Master’s degree, LOL!
From UNLV. I tape the diploma on the inside of my windshield so I can legally park in handicapped spaces.
Obama’s on with Tweety right now. Matthews is being more than fair. He’s giving Obama all the time he wants to answer questions. And he’s being friendly. You know, the way the MSM treats the repubs.
*laughs* Nope. A canadian thing for sure. I would fall asleep on the couch to the curling matches on sundays at my grandparent’s house in ontario as a kid. A very odd sport, but amusing in the jokes it brings out.
I haven’t bowled in a while but I’m not too bad (have my own ball and shoes). Every once in a blue moon we get out to bowl a few games and have a fer beers (not necessarily in that order)
They don’t even have to get close, Friday is the 40th anniversary of MLK’s demise…
Well, he’s surrounded by a crowd of Obama friendlies. A different story, perhaps, in the cloistered DC studio, away from the “regular folk” who might boo him for being a jerk.
I thought it was the Scots who invented it – if we’re talking about curling.
i think they mean ‘not them’. they are ’special people’… which includes, of course the subspecies Very Serious People.
normal people are most certainly NOT Very Serious People.
Yeah, somehow he isn’t surprised that one of the queen’s kids came up with this sport. *g*
I suspect most regular people aren’t either.
It’s weird, though, that this is the only area where working harder to accomplish a goal is suspect.
lets be careful on that slippery slope dealing with subjects as touchy as assassination
WASHINGTON (CNN) — The U.S. military has too many troops tied down in Iraq to send needed reinforcements to Afghanistan this year, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs said Wednesday.
“There are force requirements there [in Afghanistan] that we can’t currently meet,” Adm. Mike Mullen said. “Having forces in Iraq at the level they’re at doesn’t allow us to fill the need that we have in Afghanistan.”…
________
Lessee, we could send the Bu’ush twins, and the Mork Romney boys.
ha
Karl Rove said he’s ‘lived in fear’ of Barbara BushEric Mayes
Published: Wednesday April 2, 2008
Karl Rove, former Deputy White House Chief of Staff, says he’s always been intimidated by First Lady Laura Bush and that he has “lived in fear” of erstwhile First Lady Barbara Bush for 37 years.
“Laura Bush intimidates me,” Rove tells GQ magazine in an interview for the May edition. “All the Bushes — well, most of the Bush men marry incredibly strong women, and they all intimidate me.”
He even found the grandmotherly wife of the previous President Bush scary.
“Barbara Bush, I’ve lived in fear of for thirty-seven years,” Rove says.
i just want him to have the absolute best protection money can buy,just sayin
Capiche! Ma Cheri!
mr wobbs just said the same thing, that he thinks that the scots invented it
Matthews is a twit
Always has been
The Saturday Night Live skits were more relevant than the real thing.
A perfect example of why you should just
“Step away from the television…. Slowly now… Turn it off and get high speed internet”
Honestly, I think we give too much credence to the idiocy.
Honestly the two people who make the most sense on TV are a comedian and a sportscaster playing Edgar R Murrows. Sometimes I think that says more about the field than the individuals standing out in it.
i have no idea. I always associated it with canada(and all the family i have there) myself. I know the scots invented golf, but curling too? Now i have to look that up. It wasn’t a sport i was interested in, hence the fairly clueless assessment and foggy memories. *grins sheepishly*
Wobbs: Much fun is 5 pin bowling on a friday night with a group of friends. XD I had some friends that i hung out with where we’d do that every few months, when we weren’t clubbing and seeking some good techno. A few drinks, many one liners and tomfoolery later and then laughter all the way home.
And curling
We have some Northern cousins who might get upset
believe me if we didnt BUY the idiot boxes…they would give them away…they are MIND control
HRC headline at HuffPo:
Hillary: Obama Can’t Win
Giving McBu’ush ammunition for the fall should the Sheik prevail against the Denver backroom.
Curling, Golf and Haggis
Is there any wonder I had to find a lamina bride so that my children could have some small portion of ethnic heritage to be proud of?
Hill pick up your marbles…game set match
Curling was brought here by Scots settlers – first in Quebec and Ontario, then the prairies.
We have a bowling alley not too far from us that does midnight bowling (loud music, black lights and neon balls) and it is a lot of fun
Yup. it was the Scots.
Learn something new every day. *grin* But it is something i associate with my family for sure. My uncles never played it(they tended to hockey or lacrosse) though. But for some reason the games would end up on tv at some point or another…
ok im fading early tonight…love ya 2 pieces you mieces
mr wobbs said he married me so that i could muddle his very british gene pool *g*
I still enjoy Star Trek and Wild Wild West reruns
(guilty pleasures)
Cable (and cable news) I can live without
In 2002 I realized that there were NO American news outlets without KoolAid fountains.
Couple that with what I posted in EPU land…
http://www.reuters.com/article…..8820080403
We took our eyes off the target…! 8-(
boa noite, sadlyyes
So yes, i’m a dork! I had it wrong. *grins sheepishly again* But i did mention i’ve never really looked into it in any detail, after all.
put it in the queue ct
I think the Clintons would accede the election to McBu’ush should the Sheik prevail as nominee.
So they think. Barry may clean McBu’ush’s clock as well.
night sadlyyes
This is getting sillier by the day …
Jeebus, the Democrats have been living in fear of a flaccid college drop-out who’s afraid of an old woman who looks like the Quaker Oats Guy.
Go figure.
-G
P.S. Bush got his face shoved in shit by the Europeans….no NATO for Ukraine an d Georgia.
How could you tell which was the face and which was the shit?
Heh, it’s that obvious…? Even a Canuck can see it…! 8-)
I always thought George Washington and she were related.
Chris Matthews needs to ponce out of his closet and admit his codpiece addiction.
Just jumping in, and not having read anything on this thread, Hey, Colbert has REM on right now.
LOL
Nice post, Julia.
Ok, here the fuck we go:
A Red under Every Bed. The Terrists ‘r comin’, the Terrists ‘r comin’…
wasn’t it the germans who started off the atta met in prague story? wasn’t it the germans who gave us curveball?
Comin in late again, I had to laugh when i saw gthe stats on bowlers.
I had to have a PE class when I went to college, i ws Thirty years old, so I took a Bowling class.
It was the last class before lunch and , of course, off campus. The only reason I took it was so I could drink beer all the way through lunch.
Great post, Julia. Matthews’ elitist snobbery, borne of his job application with Jack Welch, really rankles.
And since when are people in the African-American community not regular people?
Matthews fails the basic test of fairness: knowing what matters to the American people when they are picking their president. He flunked, and on his own wee campus tour too.
“…Pamela Landy, bitte…”
I tried to submit this to Digg but it said, “Whoa! A Fatal Exception occurred!” or something like that, and I had to reboot.
My kind of lunch… Liquid! ;-)
i got that too margot.. digg has been iffy for me today
Hey Margot,
Just home from late night here. Hello!
I thought his remarks were very racist, but what else can we expect from someone as clueless as Tweety. Ugh!
It tried to link you to the HRC for President website.
Sheik bin al OsamaBama dirty tricks.
Good evening Julia, Suzanne, pups.
Curling, couldn’t stand it until I was bedridden for a couple years. Then I developped a healthy respect for it.
And women’s curling is strangely exciting when the captain starts screaming at the sweepers : HARDER, HARRRRRRRDERRRR.
ROTFL.
You know, I looked for bowling racial demographic information, but I guess my google skillz failed.
I was just hypnotized by the thought that Matthews is making lofty pronouncements on the one area he’s supposed to be an expert on, working-class people of northern european descent, and he’s clearly been out of touch since sometime in the seventies.
Paulson really steps on his d*ck in China…
He goes on to chastise the Chinese…
So why don’t we utilize it?
http://www.reuters.com/article…..dChannel=0
So anyways, I heart my boss, but he has this weird prejudice about me being awake when I get to work.
Night, folks. Nice to see you early this week.
g’nite julia
Bill vs Bill:
Night, Julia. Thanks for hosting!
Aloha, Julia! Excellent post!
nite julia! snooze….
Good night Julia, even if half of what I say is meaningless…
Quebecois, excellent song reference there ;-)
ahhh it’s raining here. I love he sound of rain, it is so peaceful
Republicans win on pigmarks!!! Spread the word. ThinkProgress:
Love that colourless album.
Not pandering for attention or anything, merely trying to streghten the community feeling in this place…
I was born 49 years ago!
Palomino Waltz. My favorite.
hippo birdy q
You stated it beautifully, and I’m not far behind you — born almost 48 years ago!
Oh Q, is it your birthday? Happy birthday!
I wonder if Tweety bowls like he dances (with Ellen).
Feliz Aniversário
today?
perish the thought
Yup, right now. Well, I was born at 6:05 pm really, that would be eastern standard time. Thanks folks, off to watch REM, back in a few.
enjoy the start of your 50th year, q
Silly Wizard anyone?
is silly wizard like mr wizard?
Tweety is a dork. Putting on a suit and makeup for tv doesn’t hide his dorkiness. Ever.
Hahaaaaa…….I guess there gonna have to start profiling white, European males!
-G
I think there were some geurrilla artists in France who went around putting little flags with Bush’s face into piles of dog doo on the the streets.
-G
I can’t get over this guy’s name…
A premier Scottish group.
Happy Birthday, Quebecois!
So, they have their own National Endowment for the Arts over there…
I like that idea but not much poo in my area, it’s the law to curb your dog.
Maybe that will catch on globally.
LMAO that is a rather unfortunate name combination or rather one that is condusive to chuckling and giggling.
We interrupt this thread for the following unpaid advertising:
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Hi Suz, Chris, and all;)
hey margot
Hi Margot :-)
ola, margot
ola, wobbs, I’d love to learn Portuguese.
Hey Gals,
Christine
Anyone discussing the Yoo memo?
Buenas tardes Margot y Christine.
And hi to Christine too :-)
mr wobbs created a facebook account for me and i’m trying to figure it out.
Hiya!
Only Yoo.
-G
You would? That makes me very happy. It is a beautiful language.
You just knew someone had to post this…
Only You
NO! you can’t make me watch that. I know what it is. I’m singing in my head now dammnit.
wobbs, I once met a Brasilian exchange student when I was in high school. She spoke so beautifully, both in Portuguese and English, and we were all fascinated.
hee hee Wordsmith, I couldn’t resist!
I just added you!
*g* my dad has that typical accent when he speaks english and when people would ask where he was from, he would always answer, Montana
cool
Only Yooooooo can make this torture right…
Only Yoo can make stress positions tight…
Only Yoo, and Yoo alone
Can torture like you do
And fill my soul with pain for Jon Yoo…
shunning works for me – non-violent method that works
hmmm, strike that last line, we will need to find a better one!
Brilliant!
who are you shunning? not me i hope. i brought cake!
shunning.. the yoo link at brandan calling
It’s common knowledge that you can not shun someone who is bearing cake. You just don’t do it.
sorry, wrong thread.. my error
And why do you think I bring sweets every night? My mama raised several dummies, but I was not one of them.
Digg!
thanks, margot, digg was down earlier
That REM song did absolutely nothing for me.
Thanks LooHoo
If Yoo don’t know me by now.
Back in the YooSSR.
boa noite, pups
tô cansada! (i’m tired) for margot *g* a lil more portuguese
I have four college degrees, but I think it’s been about 15 years since the last time I bowled…what does that make me, a Gravel supporter?