you both have a much stronger stomach than I. HT for doing this and keeping an eye on that dog and his lobby express.

St. John urgh.

lol, that photo is like: Bring Out Your Dead. Bring Out Your Dead.

Jane: How can you use McCain and “live” in the same title?

Uh, this is for real, right? Not an April Fools? I was sure until I got to the “wrestling buddy”… …the right wing has become such caricatures that I am never really sure when I am seeing parody anymore!

“Braaaains. Braaaaaaaiiiiins!
‘

middle of an abstinence only club

Episcopalians?!?! Not so much, judging from my youth!!!

lol, yeah, even more apt. McCain the zombie that eats brains.

Did he just say “Protect yobs for teachers..”…I swear I heard him say that…

“…behind the podium are stocked with sparkling white, youthful Republican faces…”

That just about says it all.

There are more people in line for the bathroom at an Obama event.

I love it!

Of course, in McCain’s wrestling days, the combatants were naked…

Sorry for the visual…

Ok, I’ll play popcorn vendor while Jane waits for the dead to speak.

Git ur McCain Poster!

Git ur McCain Poster!

Jane, you have my sympathy for your ordeal. But maybe some student will ask him an inconvienent question when he’s done bloviating.

Boxturtle (Kids say the darndest things)

I’m not watching this one. Are McCain’s butt-monkeys Lieberman and Graham there with him?

Jane, you are so brave.

Has St. John commended the President on his third term yet?

if your afaid now ,, wait till you see his pick as VP .
He’ll be dead soon his pick of VP whats matters.

i’m curious to see if anyone tries to kick jane and matt out of the event.

He’s talking about how so many black and hispanic students don’t graduate from high school, and how we need to empower parents with choices about where to send their kids. I’m sure all the white people in this crowd appreciate the reassurance that they can keep their kids away from all of that.

I don’t know, Jane. The people in that crowd might not like it if all those “other” kids tried to choose to come to a place like theirs. It is theirs, after all.

Jane, how was security to get in there? Did they ask for credentials and party affiliation? How’s the Koolaid?

(((Jane))) bless you for taking one for the team. Sounds like what I imagine hell to look like

noooooo! don’t drink the koolaid!!!111

if your afaid now ,, wait till you see his pick as VP .
He’ll be dead soon his pick of VP whats matters.

He’d better be dead before then. Except for his POW experience, he doesn’t have a thing that can carry him until Novemeber.

Boxturtle (And we should be having fun point that out, rather than eating each other)

How’s the Koolaid?

Ye gods, don’t taste the Koolaid… That stuff is poisoned with some sort of will-sapping stuff that turns you into a zombie… See the picture above? He drinks Koolaid. Hell, he manufactures the stuff…

Perhaps you can sing him Beach Boys songs, since he seems to like them so much:

“Help Me, Ronnie…Help! Help! Me Ronnie.”

or in honor of Jane’s petition…

“I’m pickin up good violations…She’s giving me FEC-citations.”

Hi Jane,
The costume store called and they want to know when you’ll be returning the two high school student costumes. ;-)

somebody better tie mccain’s shoelaces, he keeps tripping on them.

(he can’t tie his own shoelaces)

Veepstakes… are we seeing the launch of the Colin Powell campaign with the report out from his foundation for American youth? The sorry state of education in America’s major cities by drop-out rates. Not exactly something to point to as a successful endeavor, tho it wouldn’t be the first time failure got spun as a reason to pick someone.

And there is all that steady-as-he-overwhelming-force-goes military experience.

I can see the campaign now…you don’t have to worry about the Prez ’cause look who’ll be his veep/minder. ’cause that’s turned out so well the last eight years.

If this is the route they go, they’ll be counting on the Alzheimer’s effect…in the voters.

Jane, more important things to watch……. Markey’s got the “oil boys” today on the hot seat! I will not waste my time watching the “infirm” attempt to further eviscerate my country! I still respect McCain for “his service and duty” in spite of my disagreements with him and the war back then as now!!!!!!!!

Yep. I can’t believe they got in. Republican thought-police are not what they used to be.
Although it does sound like there is still time for them to be pepper-sprayed, tazered, and arrested.

Was Chuck Hagel’s appearance on The Daily Show last night an audition to be Obama’s running mate? As a veteran, he could cancel a lot of McCain’s “life story” BS and as a recovering Republican he could fight the “Obama is the most liberal Senator” lie. I’m not sure how I feel about this. I would prefer someone like Edwards or Dodd for the slot, but if it makes the difference between winning and losing, I’ll at least listen.

a wise, ancient man called in to the local radio show the other day and said a phrase i have never heard-

mccain keeps it up ”’till hell won’t have him”.

thought that was better than ’not worth the powder to blow him up’ another saying around here from way back.

(mccain, in his world every day is april fool’s day-april fool’s! i was just kidding! not what i really meant!)

Jim Webb could also cancel out McCain’s life story.

tw3k at 3

toooo funny!

no, the photo is showing his skills as a faith healer…….

bbl

(jane, i really enjoyed reading your post, most excellent)

Ack!

We’ve got to stop this one before it gets too much traction. Hagel has been one of the most reactionary Repubes there is. He’s been getting a pass because of outspoken opposition to the Iraq Invasion, but do not be fooled.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/16/185310/186

My thought, Obama should strongly consider Hagel for SecDef.

That picture should be captioned “Whoa flashback”. Youthful indescretion indeed.

Yes an Irish-Scotch…….. remember the “whiskey rebellion” and America’s first tax, on spirits, to pay for war. Today we pay energy taxes to pay for governments existence and borrow millions waging war to secure future oil reserves, instead of a war on energy! STUPID!!!!~!

What if African Americans and Hispanic kids got to be in schools that spent the same amount of money per student as White kids?
What if we studied whether there is a link between going to an all boys schools and a higher rate of negative attitudes toward women? What if we studied private and public schools with less than 10% dark kids and later links to racism. Plus by studying the Dark kids who went to these schools well Clarence Thomas, Michelle Malkin, Condi Rice? They all seem like they hate their own race and want to be Republican race hater White.
What if we looked at Liberty University Private school grads who can’t seem to testify about the illegal and immoral things they have done working for Bush.
Does any parent want their kids saying I can’t recall on CNN?

Episcopalian ?!?!?!

but, but, he’s St John the Baptist

btw, an unimmersed baptist - what will Pastor Land say ?

I agree. I’m blanking on the name of the Iraq vet who was elected to Congress from Pennsylvania. I think he’d be a better pick than Hagel or Webb. He has the military experience but seems less reactionary on other fronts.

“empowering Parents” means public support for private schools. McCain’s doin the voucher thingee.

Patrick Murphy or Joe Sestak - both of whom are set to sign on to Shuler’s SAVE Act, btw

My thought, Obama should strongly consider Hagel for SecDef.

Warren Christopher is also a good choice. He’s old, but he’s still VERY active.

Boxturtle (Not many good choices out there for that position)

Hey america- you wanna pick up the tab fer all the parents who want to send their kids to christian schools while the public schools everyone pays for rot?

The Episcopacy teaches Duty, Honor, Education & Discipline.

These values served our country well over the last few hundred years.

people just don’t get it sad!!!!!!

Jane,

I found a clearer shot of St. John.

-G

Hey Jane; did you see what rude pundit said about you after seeing you at EschaCon08?

“Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake and Eric Boehlert of Media Matters are really fuckin’ hot in person…”

Oh my!!

http://www.rudepundit.blogspot.com/

Do you mean Patrick Murphy?

Howie Klein had some thoughts about Hagel a while back. Chucky’s not a good guy:

http://downwithtyranny.blogspo.....sh-or.html

Hagel actually ran a company that made and controlled the voting machines being used for the elections he was running in. I love this country!

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm

That would be Vice Admiral (Ret.) Joseph Sestak (PA-07)

Aw, too bad Mark Salter won’t talk to Jane! That’d be fun hear.

I’m anxious to hear what the lawyers have to say…

McCain/Maliki 2008.

-G

Wait till the public finds out that McBush wants em ta pay ta send kids to Moslem schools!!

Given McCain and Bush’s academic records you would think parents would run from them when they talk about education.

You know George Bush could cancel out McCain’s life story. They are both after all two entitled white guys who were born on third base and think they hit a triple.

I assume the the Stepford atmosphere won’t effect our stalwart bloggers. They should be careful about drinking any proffered liquids.

Otherwise referred to as

winning the sperm lottery

Murphy is a vet of the Iraq war.

Good point. Considering that he graduated fifth from the bottom at the naval academy, the meme should be do we really want another C- president?

As the debates at the Raygun Cathedral showed, McCain will run on his war experience and his years as a POW … and Obama is going to hang him out to dry with it …

ok, my link above doesn’t work @^#%!$!&$^!

last september in SC(wink wink), he announced to his base he’s been a Baptist “for years”

“He told McClatchy he found the Baptist church more fulfilling than the Episcopalian church, but still referred to himself as an Episcopalian.”

funny that, he’s failed to be Baptized
flippity floppity

((((( Jane )))))

Isn’t it ironic that McCain’s public address is on April Fool’s Day ?

… he musta thought getting baptized was like being waterboarded …

Oh, someone please ask him if he “abstained” in high school.

Spinning one’s religious beliefs is very Bush-like.

He got that as an Admirals son I wonder so I wonder if McCain got Gentleman’s C’s like Bush did or just show up for class and you pass status.
We need to ban special promotion for the already special.

We can only hope.

My very sentiment (not to mention it would make a great bumper sticker)

The pimping of this vietnam obsession is lost upon millions of new voters
who do not care and do not need to care about all that waste, there are
plenty of new problems to be dealt with that have no analog with that
experience even if McCain was intelligent enough to use it right.

If that happens, AC360 will be flipping burgers at Mickey Dees …

So McBush has established that he attended a religious school and understands why parents want to send their kids there and have the govt. pay for it. Good start for him eh?

No white kids left behind!

apology for the
OT
This hearing is just getting started
Select Committee Hearing Hosts Execs from Largest 5 Oil Companies
WASHINGTON (March 31, 2008) – Today the national average for a gallon of gas hit a new all-time record of $3.28 per gallon, according to a survey done by AAA. Tomorrow Chairman Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) and the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming will host top-level executives from the five largest oil companies at a hearing intended to probe the causes and solutions to America’s oil dependence.

“This new gas price record is a perfect example of why we need these oil companies to go on the record with the American people to discuss our dangerous dependence on oil,” said Markey. “These companies are defending billions in federal subsidies needed for renewable fuels and clean energy while reaping over a hundred billion dollars in profits in just the last year alone.”

Executives from BP, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil and Shell will testify before the Select Committee, where their stance on defending tax breaks totaling $18 billion, and their commitment to delivering alternative fuels to the market will be tested by the committee. Along with the Bush administration’s help, the companies are fighting to keep $18 billion in tax breaks that Congress is attempting to shift towards renewable energy incentives for wind, solar, biomass and other climate-friendly sources. The House recently passed the Renewable Energy and Energy Conservation Tax Act of 2008, but President Bush and the top oil companies are currently fighting to defeat the measure in the Senate.

He would not last a day, nobody’s shoulder to cry on.

My thoughts ran in the same direction. He only graduated because nobody wanted to piss off the commander of the Pacific fleet.

Man, I swear, every time i flip past cnn lately they have an ad for jesse ventura for prez. what is up with that?

AC360?

They don’t call CNN Clinton News Network for nothing.

He finished 5th from the bottom, with a dad who was a very prominent person in the military(Navy I believe) at that time. Makes you wonder what grades he really deserved, doesn’t it?

Why won’t the press ask him that question then? They know we don’t need another Moron and Chief!

That would be AC/DeeCee, aka Anderson Cooper

Ding!!!!

“Makes me want to go light up in the can.”
Thanks Jane -
After a morning of battles with PhotoShop, the image of you hiding out in a stall in the girl’s bathroom, lighting up, has me laughing again.
Now to read the rest of it.

they should just get the “left behind” series, homeschool and save taxpayer dollars.

Can I just say how empty the parking lot was? There are more people in line for the bathroom at an Obama event.

Thus illustrating Digby’s point yesterday that bloggers’ “aggressive attitude” is what’s needed to overcome in the public’s mind the slough of despond known as the MSM.

Jesse Ventura … wasn’t he supposed to be Nader’s running mate ?

I would have to say “neither.” Remember, the VP could end up President if something happened to the Prez. Hagel is all GOP except for the War. Not a good bargain. We need Webb in the Senate. Better keep looking.

This:

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/p.....4609990001

Is bound to get the Freepers all fired up. I wonder if OxyCotin man knows yet.

gah, i dunno, i just roll my eyes and change channel.

teehee

but, but, but I thought bush _is_ a puppet.

I’ll take that as a rhetorical question. Big business doesn’t want a leader, they want another puppet.

FWIW and at the risk of being flamed, even fourth or fifth from the bottom at the US Naval Academy, is still the holder of a damn fine education and is far superior to the “Gentleman’s C” from Yale. Although being an Admiral’s son and grandson did help him get into the Academy and may have helped keep him from being kicked out, that does not counter the fact that he DID make it through one of the toughest engineering programs in the US.

As has been stated by others, there are far better things to go afterr in his record.

OT but today’s top mover on the Stock charts according to Google is a firm that shorts stocks. When you short stocks you bet that the price of the companies stock you short is going to go down. This is a very tricky game I don’t do it.
But when a stock is up 30,513.36% that bets against higher stock prices I’m thinking the herd is voting with their feet Dollars that they do not believe in the Bush economy.
I wonder how pawnshops and payday loan companies are doing.

Top movers
Price | Mkt Cap | Vol | $Vol | Popularity
Gainers Change Mkt Cap
PROSHARES TR ULTRASHOR… TLL 30,513.36% 3.28B

Jane attending a McBush “town hall” event is like a Sex Ed. Professor wading through reels of bad porn with her PhD students. She does it so that once they enter clinical practice, they won’t laugh or cry in front of their patients.

Morning Joe ran it over and over all morning….good way to get hateful Americans to further hate the people they hate…and get ‘em all puffed up for more war…

Sorry I should have got that.

I’d buy a BigMac just to watch him give that faux studied squint as he mumbles … “D’ya want fries with that ?” *g*

FWIW and at the risk of being flamed, even fourth or fifth from the bottom at the US Naval Academy, is still the holder of a damn fine education and is far superior to the “Gentleman’s C” from Yale. Although being an Admiral’s son and grandson did help him get into the Academy and may have helped keep him from being kicked out, that does not counter the fact that he DID make it through one of the toughest engineering programs in the US.

As has been stated by others, there are far better things to go afterr in his record.

you mean something like not knowing the difference between Sunni and Shi’a?

I don’t know, Jane. The people in that crowd might not like it if all those “other” kids tried to choose to come to a place like theirs. It is theirs, after all.

No worries, Republicans are only interested in giving people a “choice” so they can pull their kids out and undermine public schools, not giving them enough money to go to a place like that.

What kind of engineering?

Big Business wants another Bill Clinton to boost their stock price what good is power without more wealth?

It’s getting old having to do this everyday. I guess we just have to stick with it.

Right. I was raised Episcopalian and they were pretty liberal for a Christian crowd. However I MUST say that my entire family has slid to the right and are looking more like Evangelicals every day, and SOME of them converted to Baptists. I don’t know, don’t ask me, just go figure. I can’t relate to any of them any more and haven’t for many years.

It’s not my mother’s Episcopalian church.
hehe

The Episcopal High School McCain attended is a private school, right? Its not a public school. Neil Boortz calls public schools - government schools. Now the private school parents and Republicans and the tax exempt Religious institutions want public funding for private schools. They’re sneaky about it (vouchers), but that’s what they are after. Defund Public Education for the masses and fund private schools for the wealthy. That would make them government schools, too, no?

Genetic engineering … all his ladies have been cloned … *g*

Has McBush released his service record? Is Obama above swiftboating McBush?

Bottom of the class is still bottom of the class. Few commandants would have failed the son and grandson of admirals, for the same reason Bush got into and “earned” his degrees at both Yale and Harvard.

McBush obviously learned not to say “front” or “back” when speaking of ships, as he later learned not to crash most of his aircraft. But as with Supreme Court nominees, given the job description and the stakes of not being competent, nobody should make even the short list, much less be appointed, if they’re not at the top of their class.

Why does the GOP put belief in oppressing the poor and dark over making a dollar?

Obama won’t swiftboat him, he will turn his record against him though …

Students from Navy families, especially ones that includes Academy grads, benefit when trying to enter the Academy. It’s been that way for decades. As you say, there’s nothing to ‘get’ McCain on here.

He’s being introduced with a lot of elitist, “upholding a code of honor” boarding school crap.

Hilarious.

So his kids are Undead Zombie Clones? Noooo!

Because it’s the only way to take what’s rightfully theirs back from those who stole it in the first place … /s

ACADEMIC PROGRAM 1930′S-1966
The program was a “one fits all curriculum” where all midshipmen followed the same curriculum for four years with the only variable being the foreign language selected. In summary, each midshipman had to successfully complete the following academic program:
two years of math through differential equations
one year of chemistry
one year of physics
two years of foreign language
many courses over four years in English, History and Government, Electrical Engineering, Marine Engineering, Ordnance and Gunnery, Seamanship and Navigation, and Leadership–too numerous to list here
There were no provisions for validating courses for those who had previous college level education and those who successfully passed Calculus, and advanced Chemistry and Physics, in High School. As a result, those who had passed certain college and some high school level level courses were required to retake the same courses at USNA.

Common exams in each subject were administered classwide at the end of each semester. Daily