Comments on: …And Us Rubes In The Hinterlands Are Grateful Fer Yer Condescension http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:34:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: astilbe http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1370020 astilbe Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:04:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1370020 <p>Bob, You forgot:<br /> f. a,b,c,d<br /> g. all of the above<br /> h. none of the above<br /> i. a,b<br /> j. b,c<br /> k. c,d<br /> l. d,e<br /> m. some of the above</p> Bob, You forgot:
f. a,b,c,d
g. all of the above
h. none of the above
i. a,b
j. b,c
k. c,d
l. d,e
m. some of the above

]]> By: old91A10 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1369900 old91A10 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:12:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1369900 <p>You are correct. It is not all platitudes. There is also equivocation, selective mea culpa, bald faced denial, political opportunism, ….</p> <p>association with Exelon, Rezko, Auchi (food for oil scams); wife’s payraise after his election; opposed Feingold’s censure of Bush over wiretaps; rejected Murtha’s call for redeployment; has said Bush doing good job on Iraq; late on attention to Jena, Mississippi; no early response, then feeble one on mortgage crisis; neglect of European Subcommittee; would meet with Cuba, Iran, North Korea without conditions; voted ‘present’ women’s issues (I doubt the explanation which smacks of cowardice again); can only say, ‘oops, I pressed the wrong button’ on questioned votes; has many missed votes; has a weaker record on FISA; repeatedly voted for Patriot Act; supported anti-union candidates; had a relationship with homophobes McClurken and Rev. Caldwell; advocates Social Security privatization; cut money for children’s welfare; takes credit for ethics bill he had little to do with; does not include adults in his health insurance program; skipped out on Iran resolution vote; supported Bush’s feeble energy plan; invoked Reagan era as feel good; besmirched the 90’s successes; besmirched the 60’s movements; owns the ‘Unite Here’ appeal; spokesperson equivocated on NAFTA in Canada (until recently ‘ambivalent’); spokesperson equivocated on 18 months for troop withdrawal in England; tip-toed on edge of lying about not having heard Rev. Wright sermons (and cowardly in not speaking up); voted for Bush’s Class Action Fairness (deprives legal recourse against large corps.); encourage lenders to restructure mortgages (not government regulation); correction for Bush’s tax relief still favors upper incomes; thwarting FL & MI redo on primary; again invokes republicans (G.H.W.B & R.W.R.) in his political rhetoric.</p> You are correct. It is not all platitudes. There is also equivocation, selective mea culpa, bald faced denial, political opportunism, ….

association with Exelon, Rezko, Auchi (food for oil scams); wife’s payraise after his election; opposed Feingold’s censure of Bush over wiretaps; rejected Murtha’s call for redeployment; has said Bush doing good job on Iraq; late on attention to Jena, Mississippi; no early response, then feeble one on mortgage crisis; neglect of European Subcommittee; would meet with Cuba, Iran, North Korea without conditions; voted ‘present’ women’s issues (I doubt the explanation which smacks of cowardice again); can only say, ‘oops, I pressed the wrong button’ on questioned votes; has many missed votes; has a weaker record on FISA; repeatedly voted for Patriot Act; supported anti-union candidates; had a relationship with homophobes McClurken and Rev. Caldwell; advocates Social Security privatization; cut money for children’s welfare; takes credit for ethics bill he had little to do with; does not include adults in his health insurance program; skipped out on Iran resolution vote; supported Bush’s feeble energy plan; invoked Reagan era as feel good; besmirched the 90’s successes; besmirched the 60’s movements; owns the ‘Unite Here’ appeal; spokesperson equivocated on NAFTA in Canada (until recently ‘ambivalent’); spokesperson equivocated on 18 months for troop withdrawal in England; tip-toed on edge of lying about not having heard Rev. Wright sermons (and cowardly in not speaking up); voted for Bush’s Class Action Fairness (deprives legal recourse against large corps.); encourage lenders to restructure mortgages (not government regulation); correction for Bush’s tax relief still favors upper incomes; thwarting FL & MI redo on primary; again invokes republicans (G.H.W.B & R.W.R.) in his political rhetoric.

]]> By: mui1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1369823 mui1 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:41:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1369823 <p>Christy, on Edith. A few years ago, I encountered those phonebanking. When asked who they’d vote for, some women would say “I have to talk to my husband,” or “whoever my husband tells me to vote for.” Astonishing. But there it is. And that’s CT. I am 100% certain that Archies and Ediths exist everywhere, and it’s not fair for the NYT to pick on certain states.</p> Christy, on Edith. A few years ago, I encountered those phonebanking. When asked who they’d vote for, some women would say “I have to talk to my husband,” or “whoever my husband tells me to vote for.” Astonishing. But there it is. And that’s CT. I am 100% certain that Archies and Ediths exist everywhere, and it’s not fair for the NYT to pick on certain states.

]]> By: glennmcgahee http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1369781 glennmcgahee Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:57:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1369781 <p>Just to add another note about the media. Talking about the unemployment situation and the numbers. Wouldn’t that be a good piece for a reporter to look into? How the gov figures that number, etc. Instead, take a look at ABC’s investigative journalism online. There we’ve seen the headlines for at least a month. Where was Hillary on ” Blue dress day”. “OBama’s pastor problem”. HARD HITTING JOURNALISM? Where’s the story on the oil company execs that went before Congress yesterday?</p> Just to add another note about the media. Talking about the unemployment situation and the numbers. Wouldn’t that be a good piece for a reporter to look into? How the gov figures that number, etc. Instead, take a look at ABC’s investigative journalism online. There we’ve seen the headlines for at least a month. Where was Hillary on ” Blue dress day”. “OBama’s pastor problem”. HARD HITTING JOURNALISM? Where’s the story on the oil company execs that went before Congress yesterday?

]]> By: glennmcgahee http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1369770 glennmcgahee Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1369770 <p>Sorry janicen, but the Archie Bunker comments after the Ohio vote was Obama campaign talking points to explain his loss. It was just stenographed by the media as usual. They don’t investigate anymore you know, its just a steno pool that types the talking points that are distributed. Its called lazy journalism. I beleive its mainly because of staff shortages and budget cuts, but what you hear from the media is just pete and repeat.</p> Sorry janicen, but the Archie Bunker comments after the Ohio vote was Obama campaign talking points to explain his loss. It was just stenographed by the media as usual. They don’t investigate anymore you know, its just a steno pool that types the talking points that are distributed. Its called lazy journalism. I beleive its mainly because of staff shortages and budget cuts, but what you hear from the media is just pete and repeat.

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368977 Christy Hardin Smith Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:18:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368977 <p>I don’t think the “Archie Bunker” characterization came from the Obama campaign — the first time I saw it was from a reporter from Bloomberg news. FWIW…</p> I don’t think the “Archie Bunker” characterization came from the Obama campaign — the first time I saw it was from a reporter from Bloomberg news. FWIW…

]]> By: newspaperbrat http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368969 newspaperbrat Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:14:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368969 <p>(((((punaise))))) </p> <p>You are always a sight for sore eyes!</p> (((((punaise)))))

You are always a sight for sore eyes!

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368968 eCAHNomics Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:14:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368968 <p>Yep.</p> Yep.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368967 eCAHNomics Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:13:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368967 <p>They don’t “pick them arbitrarily.” Those are people who self-declare that they are not in the labor force, in answer to a survey Q.</p> They don’t “pick them arbitrarily.” Those are people who self-declare that they are not in the labor force, in answer to a survey Q.

]]> By: nonplussed http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368965 nonplussed Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:13:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/and-us-rubes-in-the-hinterlands-are-grateful-fer-yer-condescension/#comment-1368965 <p>Are you coming to the Netroots down here in Austin? I certainly hope so!</p> Are you coming to the Netroots down here in Austin? I certainly hope so!

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