For the people who are paying for it, belongs the Spoiled Brat.
Following up on what Siun wrote last night, I remember when Bush claimed the Qods Force was the worst thing ever. Now they're trying to save Bush's Potemkin Country.
The backdrop to Sadr's dramatic statement was a secret trip Friday by Iraqi lawmakers to Qom, Iran's holy city and headquarters for the Iranian clergy who run the country.
There the Iraqi lawmakers held talks with Brig. Gen. Qassem Suleimani, commander of the Qods (Jerusalem) brigades of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps and signed an agreement with Sadr, which formed the basis of his statement Sunday, members of parliament said.
Ali al Adeeb, a member of Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki's Dawa party, and Hadi al Ameri, the head of the Badr Organization, the military wing of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, had two aims, lawmakers said: to ask Sadr to stand down his militia and to ask Iranian officials to stop supplying weapons to Shiite militants in Iraq.
So basically, Iran's calling the shots.
And what of Bush of Mesopotamia?
The Qom discussions may or may not bring an end to the fighting but they almost certainly have undermined Maliki - who made repeated declarations that there would be no negotiations and that he would treat as outlaws those who did not turn in their weapons for cash. The blow to his own credibility was worsened by the fact that members of his own party had helped organize the Iran initiative.
"The delegation was from the United Iraqi Alliance (dominated by the Dawa party and the Supreme Council of Iraq), and the Prime Minister was only informed. It was a political maneuver by us," said Haider al Abadi, a legislator from Maliki's Dawa party.
And as Juan Cole notes, one of the big reasons for the negotiation was to save the political organizations of rival Shiia groups from the Mahdi Army:
As a result of those parleys, Muqtada al-Sadr called on his followers to stand down, though I read his statement as permitting continued armed self-defense, as at Basra where the Iraqi Army is attacking them and the US is bombing them. Significantly, he calls on the Mahdi Army to stop attacking the HQs of rival political parties. That language suggests that the parties are suffering from such attacks and are worried that party infrasture is being degraded ahead of the October 1 provincial elections. The southern parties have essentially defied al-Maliki and Bush to make a separate peace.
This is not the first time the Qods force has played peacemaker with al Sadr either. The fact is, to maintain some stability in Iraq, Iran is more important and more effective than Americans. It is the main reason, Bush's saber rattling (and especially Cheney's) is so deceitful and so reliant upon a media that generally doesn't report such matters to the public. Like it or not, Iran is the big winner of Bush's War and it was all on the American taxpayer's tab and with the sacrifice of thousands of lives.
This "truce" may or may not hold -- and the real the political loser in it all is al Maliki -- but if it does hold it will not be because of George Bush, it will be because of Iran.
Oh well, at least Bush can still rely on the "love" of the American people.
(video courtesy of Think Progress)
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And to think I used to like Jon Miller…
nite pups
Poor Bush got booed.
Isn’t it something to hear the boos practically overtaking the applause!
He is just so deserving of the scorn, it is almost poetic.
Now if he could just get the rest of what he deserves…
I have a feeling Jon Miller was under specific instructions from “the Mouse” to not note the booing and talk over it.
Maybe he did so happily, or maybe not, but those were his instructions.
Good Morning Mr Attaturk and Firedogs,
it’s as if Maliki and al-Hakim told their handlers ‘it’s a slamdunk’
thinkin’ aloud . . .
still think Cheney ordered this - Maliki doesn’t order lunch without acquiescing and suddenly he’s leading the charge ?! , although I guess he may have had dreams of greater petro dollars dancing in his head
looks like an indication of a split btw the mullahs in Iran - those who would like to see al-Sadr disappear for consolidation purposes and those who don’t bec he’s shia, studied to be ayatollah, therefore ‘good’ mullah ? , or just simply those with no confidence in al-Hakim ?
ps - overnight news bobblehead just reported more americans are using food stamps (28 million) than anytime since the program’s inception in the 60’s
I heard boos for the boob, but I also heard most applause and cheers. Too bad it was a huge 50,000 people booing.
The man disgusts me. He has really harmed the nation and the world and caused so much pain and suffering.
Good morning, pups. It’s [gag] Kristol, Cohen and Krugman in the NYT. That creature Kristol typed a thing called “Biography Isn’t Enough,” and he opines that there’s something for the John McCain campaign to remember: Democracies don’t always elect the man who has done the most for his country. Mr. Cohen says “The Baton Passes to Asia,” and that Asia’s rise is about confidence, a fierce culture of education and achievement and a burning desire to succeed. Mr. Krugman’s column is titled “The Dilbert Strategy,” and he says the principle behind the Bush administration’s proposal for financial reform is about creating the appearance of responding to the current crisis, without actually doing anything substantive.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. I’m not sure where March went, but it seems we’re about to say goodbye to it. Here are a few pictures of some folks having cocktails in Savannah last Friday.
Remember what it was like trying to tell people this would be the result
of the dream of the neocon turtles… potemkin is too apt a term, shades
of “south” vietnam.
Heard the boos but the “adulation” was as strong if not more so. Yes, Bush has harmed the nation but so have those who have been his enablers. A Congress made up of either sycophants or jellyfish, a dumbed down electorate and a corporate media that is more concerned with the bottom line than at getting to the bottom of the story.
It is wonderful to see the bush administration finally resorting to talking, deal making and (wow) diplomacy. Finding a “neutral” intermediary to converse with your enemy is an outstanding advance by this administration. I was quite surprised, however, to see that Sec. State Condeleeza Rice was not involved with the negotiations but I understand that she did not know where Qom is located so her absence was understandable.
Good morning Attu!
Message for ***KayinMaine*** Good morning. I am sending you some more snow later today after it has dumped on us for a little longer. Sorry
Good Morning, Firepups,
It’s overcast and cool this morning in central Jersey. I’ve just been lurking at the ‘lake for the last several weeks. Just time to read the posts, but not the comments. We’ve been busy with Mr. NJP’s parents [long story in abbreviated version: his dad is finally in assisted living, his mom is in a skilled nursing facility, and will be bed-ridden for the remainder of her life], trying to find a permanent placement for his dad [woohoo, found a great place near us, that has both assisted living and skilled nursing, with terrific caregivers, but his mom refuses to go]. Some good news: his dad likes the new place near us, and will be moving this month. Hopefully, my f-i-l can convince my m-i-l to go, too. She’ll get better care there than what she gets now.
Well, last week I complicated matters: I fell while running to catch a bus on my way home a week ago. I strained my left hamstring, but had enough forward momentum that I pitched forward, breaking my fall with my right hand–and breaking my right wrist in the process. Bad fracture. Spent the night in ER in Newark. Had to be put under while the drs set the wrist in a “sugar-tong” cast, open on the sides, with a hinged elbow, covering my arm from elbow to palm, overwrapped with ace bandages.
Tuesday morning, briefly met w hospital’s affiliated orthopedist, who asked if I could put weight on my left leg [barely], pronounced me fit enough to go home when my leg didn’t buckle under me, with instructions to call his office in north Jersey for a follow-up appointment. Not sure if he ever looked at the before and after xrays of my wrist.
Mr. NJP had to take his father for an iron infusion on Wed., and was gone most of the day. I was still barely able to get between bed and bathroom, but managed to get downstairs for dinner Wed. [woohoo] But poor Mr. NJP: he picked up something nasty [a stomach virus], and now we refer to home as the plague house. I got to see my gp on Thursday be taking a cab. He gave me a referral to a local orthopedics practice, and after a phone call from him, got me in to see one of their two hand and wrist specialists Fri. morning.
I’ll need surgery to reset and pin the broken bones in my wrist [goodie, setting off metal detectors for the remainder of my life]. My sibling unit was great: she came on Sat., did two loads of wash, washed dishes, took me to get a haircut, took me to the grocery store, and helped me with a couple of other errands. Mr. NJP is finally feeling a little better.
I’ve been fortunate in a number of ways. I’m left-handed, so I can still sign my name and fill out forms at the doctor’s office. The hamstring pull was pretty minor, and I can get up and down stairs pretty easily now. I was able to get a good orthopedist to check me out within a few days. It’s a slowish period at work [two reports to finish up for funders, and one proposal to submit], so a good time to miss work [and I may be able to do some work from home, and go in to the office just one day a week]. What I’ve read is that I’ll be in a cast for 6 to 8 wks, and probably won’t be able to use my right hand at all during the recuperation, and will probably get some physical therapy to regain full use. My health benefits do provide for home health aides, who can come 2 or 3 times a week to bathe me, since I can’t do that one-handed.
But poor Mr. NJP! Now he’s got to do all of the cooking and dishwashing, tasks we normally share. And with so much to do for his parents, I’d been trying to pick up the slack around here to give him some relief. I feel like a terrible burden to him right now, when he needs as much help as he can get.
Sorry, but no baked goodies for a while. I put on a big pot of coffee, and the kettle’s on for the tea drinkers here at the ‘lake. Help yourselves!
Work for peace, every day.
Here’s another video of Bush being booed last night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUAsTrl4JI
The neocons on Think Progress last night said they could hardly hear the boos in this video. I figured the neocons also saw women hanging off Bush’s legs as he walked to the mound too. *shaking head*
Nomolos! Don’t be sending me no snow, sistah! We had a good melt yesterday, so crossing my fingers for some rain today. How much snow did you get? We got 5 inches a couple days ago, but it melted away.
I laughed when I saw George Bush’s pitch was HIGH and right…kind of like his mental status. LOL
Marion! loved the photos of a firepup gathering! Maybe Mr. NJP and I will finally get to Savannah when we visit my mom in SC in November.
I’ll be depending on your breakfast goodies for a while!
About the same. It is still on the ground and there is still more than a trace of ice around the shore line. Ordering more fruit tress today from our county conservation district so we are thinking of spring.
**njprogressive** Our relative had been in assisted living for about 20 yers prior to dying last year. It was only in the last three years that she was in a wonderful nursing home close to us and although she was unable to communicate verbally (if you listened to the doctors they would say she was unable to communicate or understand anything) you could see in her eyes that she was happier there. We miss her a lot but that we had her close to us for a while was an incredible blessing to us all. Keep strong.
Hi Attaturk. Wow!!! Thanks.
Sorry about your recent seige. It does seem that when things go wrong it’s never one at a time. You know there’s always enough breakfast here! If you’re going to be in SC in November do try to make a little side trip to come see us. By then we’ll [hopefully] have something to celebrate — a Republican thumping at the polls and the prospect of a new Democratic administration.
Don’t worry about the metal detectors, I broke m back in 75 and have rods on my spine. Never a beep.
actually, bush is getting exactly what he wanted, what he said he wanted even before the primaries began, I can’t believe I’m saying this but he played one brilliant move, played moves ahead and the result was exactly what he stated his goal;
he actually said, when everyone and their brother were telling him we are gonna have to get out, when even the republicans were telling him he’d have to get out of Iraq, he said; {parpaphrased, I have no link yet];
“I call bull shit, not only are the republicans going to stop telling me to get out of Iraq, they are going to embrase this war, they are going to be on board with me and they are going to say things are going exactly as planned
I am also going to make the situation so precarious that it will be impossible for the next administration to withdraw”
now that is paraphrased but that is exactly what happened, when the study group was the only hope the president had left and even that group came back and said “GET THE FRIG OUT OF IRAQ MORON” he said;
nope, not gonna happen AND the next administration will stay also
so, though it pains me to say it, he played some brilliant chess moves and acheived exactly the results he was aiming
Nice pics Marion! You all look happy to be there!
So, Bush, Cheney, and Petraeus told al-Maliki to have the Iraqi Army wrest Basra from al-Sadr and his Mahdi. So, al-Maliki led a force of 30,000 into Basra, and the entire Shiite population of Iraq took to the streets (almost), and fighting broke out throughout the country against the Bush’s Iraqi government. Ultimately, the Iranians had to step in to save Bush’s puppet government from total collapse.
How humiliating! Poor Bush. He must feel awful.
OT
Today the New York Times ran a second long, front page article on McCain’s fundraising plans. The first was by Michael Cooper (McC BBQ) a week or so ago. Today, the byline is shared by Michael Luo and Griff Palmer.
Neither article mentions the possible illegal status of the campaign with respect to the preconvention spending limit, nor its status as still opted in to public financing.
Seems to me that they should get a few missives reminding them of these pertinent bits of news. letters@nytimes.com for LTEs. public@nytimes.com for the Public Editor.
you know what I want all the democrats to start asking?
“when did the immediate withdrawal from Iraq become not one of the adminsitration’s goals”
THAT is what I want them to start asking, remmeber this;
“when they stand up, we’ll stand down”?
or what about this;
“when they want us to leave we will leave”
the administration PROMISED we would leave when the Iraqi’s no longer wanted us there
now don’t jump down my throat, I know as musch as anyone this president’s words mean absolutely nothing but here is the point;
the democrats can start CALLING FOR WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID HE WOULD DO
and make HIM deny what he said, but make it brutally clear, the democrats want WHAT BUSH SAID WAS THE PLAN when they talked this country into this rediculous unprovoked invasion
I visited Savannah many years ago with my mother, and found it to be one of the loveliest colonial cities [huzzahs for the plan with parks near everyone]. Mr. NJP has never visited, and we’ve been talking about Savannah and Charleston trips for years now. I’ve heard a bit about SCAD: do they have a museum or college gallery?
Mmmm. Biscuits….
My friend this is all rhetoric to play to the cameras so to speak.
They have no intention of leaving until they secure what they are after - access to the oil and a perch to dominate / intimidate the region.
It’s that simple. They lied.
Make sure you go out to Tybee and get’s some shrimps and blue crabs at The Crab Shack
SCAD has several galleries around town, and there are scads (pun, me, never…) of other galleries as well, in addition to the Telfair Museum. Please come!
http://www.nytimes.com:80/2008.....038;emc=th
Krugman NYT calls Bushshit on the phony regulatory of Investment banks…good read
OT
Sadr militia kicked a little ass then put out a peaceful truce.
Very sagacious. Do not believe that he is turning the other cheek that would show weakness.
With Bush pride always comes before the fall…to bad he drags us unwilling down with him. ($3 Trillion later)Irak will unite as a Muslim nation, both shite groups and the Sunnis will agree to live as muslim nation formally but with autonomy. Sounds like the plans have been around for some time to me. We boogie over Afghanistan (our presence). We keep air and naval superiority. Our logistic requirements are much less egregious. So 7 tears after 911 do we finally go after Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda? Maybe the Sauds have told Bushco you go after our boy and you pay bigger premium for oil.
Bushco had Sadaam as an ally against Iran, then Sadr shites against Sadaam. With no one left to betray withdrawal is the only option. If Sadr can negotiate the unity treaty we can walk freely.
Bush will say we saved Iraq from Sadaam and the Shias will say they saved Irak from us. No oil deal with USA this way. I say keep the pollution in the ground and protect the global atmosphere from more warming.
If you think the desert is hot now, and it is, Global warming will make it almost uninhabitable. Just sayin.
test
and visit the lighthouse! i worked on a museum project for another lighthouse about five yrs ago, and the Tybee lightkeeper is a terrific historian and incredibly generous with his time and expertise. love crab!
The WaPo this morning said there was an “…nearly equal mix of boos and cheers….” From a crowd of just under 40,000 of what one would think of as friendly that is pretty telling.
On a more tragic note, this story appeared in NYT this morning. As a combat vet it’s hard to read this stuff:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/us/31war.html?hp
Mornin’, bro.
Damn man. Another generation of this crap. Sure glad there is such a commitment on the part of the Government to taking proper care of these kids.
What a terrible sequence of pain for you and your family. ;(
I am sorry for the seige… just goes to show how much stress and worry can mess with us and that misfortune and life happens around every corner–here’s hoping that more good life happens soon to you and yours.
Prime Minister Malaki’s failure in Basra is just like President Bush’s failure in April, 2004 in Fallujah. Both willfully acted without consultation within the of the “Chain-of-Command”. Both are Transgressors. Malaki and Bush ran roughshod over the military authorities both at a staff level and the actual battle fighters. The only result was wasted lives: for Bush 40 U.S. Marines died for no reason except Bush’s vanity. For Malaki over 400 died for nothing!
MJP
Can we impeach him NOW?
ITMFA