Now that Junior has broken Iraq and cleared the way for Iran, the idea that we might hand over the reigns to John McCain is — well, frightening. As Ivo Daalder recently said, "if you thought George Bush was bad when it comes to the use of military force, wait till you see John McCain."
Sez paradox in "Won’t Get Fooled Again":
John McCain can get away with saying anything, we’re often told, but one notices that in blue-blood Republican fashion he never says anything to help our people—not in the Armed Forces, not for the unemployed, the wretchedly poor, nothing for those who have lost their homes, nor anything for those who are horribly hurting from no health insurance. John McCain is plain McSame of Bush, when he isn’t he’s like Emeril, kicking it up a notch.
Digby notes that we’re looking at 4,000 American lives, untold Iraqi dead, trillions of dollars — "and the upshot is not democracy but the spread of radical Shiite islamism. There aren’t words in the English language ominous enough to describe how profound a catastrophe this is."
McCain is no moderate — he’s a bigger extremist than Bush. If the American people really knew that, I’m guessing his negatives might be a wee bit higher.
Bam!
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Jane!
BushCo is responsible for more American deaths and much greater destruction of American wealth the the 911 terrorists.
“So?”
Thank you for taking this issue on and keeping it on the front burner. We here in AZ have said that for years but got nowhere.
As soon as we have a nominee, we are going to make sure that McBush does not win AZ in November. That will send a bigger message than anything else here.
Well, the American public didn’t listen to Molly Ivins about George. Unfortunately here in Arizona we don’t even have a Molly Ivins.
BAM! BAM! BAM!
I used to enjoy Emeril when I caught him on the tube doing that. Next time I see that, I will piss myself.
We need to embarrass the press on their coverage of Jon McCain. We need to run as if the Media is biased for McCain and that the media is part of the problem.
It would appear that the level of violence in Iraq is more dependent on the good will of Moqtada al-Sadr than the McCain/Graham/Lieberman Surge.
At this point, Dems must face the facts that Hillary Clinton is in this thing to the brutal end, get over it, and start holding both candidates and more importantly their supporters, to this single fire: you are to cease and desist the pettiness that has gone on the past few weeks, and must campaign against John McCain (that includes you, Bill Clinton), and for those whose vote is yet to come, let them decide which of the two can go after him, what he stands for, and the Republican record of the last 7 years. It’s Iraq, the economy, health care, the judiciary, the justice department, government incompetence and the planet. Period. Or perhaps we could just settle for four more years, eh?
More War McCain!
Can the Press today actually be embarassed? It seems so long ago that members of the Press had consciences. It’s certainly not possible to have one and get a job at Fox.
How ’bout Hebrew: Armageddon.
How can you promise to not raise taxes but still find money to keep fighting a war?
Just borrow the money unlike how the credit card companies treat the peons, er voters, foreign countries and big business love to give away money to America and her politicians with (wink) no strings attached.
Sure when this happens the dollar drops in value, sure the DOW when adjusted for inflation was higher when Bill C was President.
Who cares! When John McCain is President he will solve the problem…by having the Federal Reserve print MORE MONEY.
Simple *cough* Solutions to complex problems forget Reagan a vote for McCain is a vote for Four More Years of Bush!
McCain like Bush is just looved by the press.
Slow news day.
Anybody got any ideas?
Dan Abrams appears to have assumed this mantle. I can’t watch him, personally, so I really can’t speak to it. But I have noticed my wife watching a segment Mr. Abrams terms, “Teflon John.”
How about getting his voting record some daylight? That should remove any doubt about his so called moderation.
That’s a good one. Well done.
Can the press be embarrassed? That is a real good question.
Still I say we should keep trying:)
You never no just who might have a hidden shred of decency or intellect.
but here’s the real story;
this is EXACTLY what they wanted, this is the plan from those sick maniacs in the pnac from the start
they want perpetual unrest, they want perpetual war, they can steal TONS of money from the middle east and the American middle class when there is war, they can amass TONS of power and they DO NOT want piece in any shape or form
from Chaney’s depraved lies that tried to make sure Nixon’s détente treaty would fail to his manufacturing
“evidence” against Iraq and Iran
these are sociopaths…here is what they believe;
since they are going to die there is nothing that matters, they should take whatever they can get away with, kill whoever they can kill if they are not to be found out and do whatever it is they want to do
they are sociopaths, they are maniacs, they are depraved, they are war mongers, they are war profiteers, they are deliverers of unrest, death destruction,
AND THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT
none of this is an accident, it is all planned from the very earliest days of that sick fraternity of maniacs known as the PNAC
why not a compare and contrast the S&L keating scandal with the current Housing crisis – and name names….
Like, highlighting the KEATING FIVE? perhaps? Why hasn’t that come out more? (pass me them baby-backs, please!)
I’m really worried about the future of robotics:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OGxdgNJ_lZM
I agree its a good segment the rest of the program is ehh. But we need more of this.
YES
I would love to see a piece comparing cheney’s hand manufacturing data during the nixon administration and wonder why nobody is making that comparison now
fool me once…errrr….CAN’T BE FOOLED AGAIN
also, I would like to know what’s going on with the seigleman case
Yes indeed – Keating Five? Savings and Loans? Bailouts? By the taxpayers? Neil Bush? Bailouts, anyone? Personal responsibility?
Bush used the words “Mission Accomplished”.
Ummmm..bring home the troops?
Hey I know, let’s link to Ted Sampley’s site and hammer his military record. Then your beloved MSM can say, “look, these people are as bad as the right winf nitsa”.
Nuts, not nista
Ding! Could there be anything more perfectly analogous and timely to spotlight McBush’s former “judgment” and experience with a backdrop of current events than the Keating 5 scandal. It had everthing!
Neil Bush as a fore runner of Bush idiocy; John McCain as a political opportunist and wannabe player…all the oldies and goldies.
The fact that the very term “Keating Five” will never be uttered by Tim Russert is a continuing proof that the man is still Dick Cheney’s bitch.
Yay for the Dim Angry Old Man!
Your palpable lack of enthusiasm is somewhat off putting.
Yay for the DAOM! Yay! Even if he’s an FEC crook!
Don’t you read the WAPO?
Yay.
Bushco pisses on our shoes and the press has been telling us its raining for the past 8 years. They are no indications that they are ever embarrassed. They may change their tune, but they will not be embarrassed. Every day starts anew. Whatever crap they said yesterday matters not. They begin anew and don’t look back. When they are checked and called out, they obfuscate or simply ignore any inquiry.
How about, if the surge was so wonderful, why did it take the Iranians to get al Sadr to stand down?
Thanks! I wanted it to be a little more dramatic. Any suggestions appreciated.
I get the “kick it up a notch” thing, but it’s not really fair to Emeril. After Katrina he was one of the restauranteurs to really go out of his way for his employees and has been a big advocate for rebuilding New Orleans in a way that will not make it a gentrified Yuppieville. Even Tony Bourdain (Mr. Kitchen Sarcasm) feels bad about calling him an “ewok” and making fun of him, because of his socially conscious and progressive outreach in NOLA.
Slow newsday idea the press is full of Hugo is horrible stories. Is the press trying to build support for an invasion? Or are they trying to hide the fact that Hugo is spending is money on healthcare something we poor Americans don’t have?
“This paper looks at allegations against the government of Venezuela in Foreign Affairs’ recently published article, “An Empty Revolution: The Unfulfilled Promises of Hugo Chávez,” (March/April 2008), in light of available data. It shows that some of the allegations are altogether wrong, and others grossly exaggerated and/or misleading.
The article argues that “a close look at the evidence reveals just how much Chávez’s ‘revolution’ has hurt Venezuela’s economy — and that the poor are hurting most of all.” As the article notes, this is contrary to widespread belief.
The Foreign Affairs article alleges – among other things – that under the Chávez administration inequality has increased in Venezuela, that poverty reduction has been slow relative to economic growth, that social spending has been a low priority for the Venezuelan government, that the poor have suffered declines in their health and living standards, and that Venezuela’s current account surplus faces elimination due to import growth.”
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/…..venezuela/
I want to know when the president’s mission “evolved” into NOT bringing home the troops, when did staying become a goal?
from the earliest days, “we will stand down when they stand up”, “we will stay so long as we are welcome and not a day longer”
or whatever those exact quotes are, WHEN DID THIS PRESIDENT CHANGE HIS GOAL?
of course the goal was ALWAYS to stay, but that’s not what he said, he changed the goal and we let him get away with it
they want us out, our boys and girls accomplished their mission, they are not politicians, they are not a free Iraqi police force, they are not escorts, they are not contractors
and they are NOT painters of schools
when did the mission become STAYING?
THAT is the question that needs to be brought up every single time Iraq is the focus of conversation
McBu’ush ‘Surprised’ by Iraq Developments
LOL.
good one Jane– so sad and true.
never forget that Emeril says : “Pork fat rules!”– kinda funny in this context.
At least Emeril has talent and gives a damn about the folks in NOLA.
Jane – News of the day and last week. In US press this story is fading quickly. Why?
Who did this 22 year old know in the White House to get this #300m contract? How and why did the Pentagon entrust this guy running a one-man operation. This doesn’t happen unless someone in the upper regions of government orders it to happen. Will this story get legs?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..tworkfront
hehe
there it is, that’s how he distances himself from bush, whatever happens from here on in that is bad is because bush frigged it up, whatever good happens is because bush listened to him
BRILLIANT!`
Tim Russert is a continuing proof that the man is still Dick Cheney’s bitch
Oooh I smell a firepups tee-shirt/bumper sticker contest brewing! Then we can all buy some and mail one into ol’ Punkin’Haid himself!
By giving them a chance to be embarrassed we work to save them we offer them mercy. Tears of Mercy burn the Dammed:) Or at least that was one of the quasi Catholic/Indian/Witchcraft? ideas my Mom told me.
Plus its always funny when people in a supposedly weaker state offer to help the rich and strong because they feel sorry for them:)
here’s some news….. from the news box here:
gah.
Big Russ’d be so proud!
This should make McCain’s judgement look cloudier: From the Raw Story
Two top McCain advisors lobbied for predatory lender
Yeah Good one this guy is a cutout for somebody else to get a fake military contract but who?
There is noway a 22 year old has the connections or clout to get a contract like this himself. The bullets he got where Chinese and forty years old?
How does an American get 40 year old bullets out of China? Bush 1 was our diplomat to China. What are the Chinese saying about how an American got these bullets? Do bullets even work when there that old?
Oh no! The Cylons are coming!
I think it was actually Tristero’s post. Regardless, it is a damn good point made in just a few words.
This is how we beat him. Just like Rove’s strategy – hit McCain on his strenghts. The difference between this and Rove is that we have truth on our side. Of course, that means the media will ignore it.
the man has strenghts?
here’s what is alarming;
the more senile he demonstrates he is, the more the neo cons are happy to support him
they think he is going to be another puppet, another reagan, another bushboy
and they are right
I should have said “perceived strentghs.” Big difference.
So, in this article he says the fact that Sadr sued for the cease fire means Maliki et al are WINNING becuase he’s never seen the winning side ask for a cease fire. Anyone ever see the t-shirts Nam Vets wear that say “We were winning when I left”?
These are the same people that will tell you the MSM and liberals threw away victory in Vietnam.
I beg to differ.
I don’t see the spread of “radical Shiite islamism” alone– I see politics, politics and more politics. If Iraqi Shiites (they have numbers on their side) win, then Iran will be “safer” from the West once the Occupation ends. Don’t forget we were arming Saddam against Iran and so many died…
Our fingers are all over this debacle; to use the catchphrases of the neocons/media is counterproductive to any freedom and fairness in the region.
jmho.
[From an earlier thread… sort of EPU’d.]
Okay, here’s the thing about McCain… he’s not a hero for getting shot down, and whatever he did while he was a prisoner while honorable was what he needed to do to survive, which is what’s taught at the SERE schools based in part on what happened to prisoners from WWII, Korea and Vietnam. I met McCain in Jacksonville at NAS Cecil Field when I was an Ensign and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy for someone who had gone through his experiences, not bitter or malevolent (well, then anyhow). I had the chance to meet (and work with) other men who shared McCain’s fate in Hanoi over my succeeding years on active duty and none of them ever made a big deal of their captivity or used it as a cudgel on the heads of anyone they knew/worked with as McCain has done in recent years (oooh, I’m soooo patriotic). I know that I have said this here before, but looking at what he’s done he fares no better than most sitting Senators and perhaps even a bit worse… he survived the Keating Five scandal somehow, and has not given up his love o’lobbyists and their money no matter how he doth protest.
Not to take anything away from the guy, but his capture was accidental, not something he sought out except by virtue of flying over North Vietnam and he shared that risk with every other Vietnam-era aviator that flew those missions. No one ever launched with the intent of getting shot down.
Getting tortured by the Vietnamese aside (and what lesson did that teach him?) thanks for the MCA Act, Senator. His service was no more remarkable than what John Kerry endured as a Brown Water sailor who earned a Silver Star for remarkable courage under direct enemy fire and had the lives of his crew in his hands for the entire time he was Skipper of that boat. Somehow Kerry’s accomplishments were diminshed not because of what he did, but because of his politics much like what happened to another remarkable Democrat who also endured the unendurable, flying and completing all his missions over Germany in WWII as a bomber pilot. Who? George McGovern, someone who to this day the Chickenhawk Wingnuts deride as a pantywaist liberal DFH. I could go on and on with examples like Dan Inouye and Bob Kerrey but no, St. John McVain is a “war hero”, for being a POW. If you couch it in those exact terms, the only two heros repatriated from the Hanoi camps were Admiral James Stockdale and a guy most of you never heard of Doug Hegdahl, an enlisted sailor who was also captured accidentally.
McCain was a valiant sailor, and a good man. Now he’s a politician using his media-burnished military credentials to try to achieve the power that has eluded him since Karl Rove and Preznit Bunnypants slandered him in 2000. What he’ll do with that power is not a guess, and it scares the hell out of me. We don’t need Jack D. Ripper with his finger on the button.
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I’m not sure he would be the same kind of puppet that Bush is. McCain has a nasty temper, doesn’t like for people to disagree with him and seems to feel that he knows best above all others. He might not be so easy for the other Repubs to handle and it seems that he already is very much disliked by some of them. He is, I think, more of a loose cannon than a puppet.
In the 3/31/08 New Yorker – and probably online today – Eric Alterman has a good piece entitled OUT OF PRINT – the Death & Life of the American Newspaper with an amusing cartoon of Arianna strangling a newspaperman.
John McCain supports torture of human beings by the United States of America.
John McCain:
Worse than Bush
‘
but he is allready their sock boy, he has abandoned all his principles and repeats their script verbatum
I reposted this yesterday as well when I was being scewered for being a Mccain supporter. I think this and the piece on the daily kos written by his academy classmate and fellow pow are really the kind of approach that needs to be taken.
I agree with that but he’s so looney, who knows what he would do with the actual power. He doesn’t like to be told what to do by anyone and has smacked other Repubs around on several occasions. He just might go off the reservation if he felt like it. He really scares me.
How about we all surf the Internet and see who can come up with the worst story about McBush?
ThinkProgress: McCain Re-Embraces Supply-Side Theories That Are ‘Beyond The Reach Of Economic Science’
Their emphasis. Needlees to say, “it” does no such thing, as is well-known.
There are no words, except make sure that a Democrat is elected to the Presidency this November.
Yea great, just go to Ted Sampley’s site. Don;t
EPU’d
This is the piece by his fellow POW.
where does McCain really stand on the Truman Commission – investigatory team played a critical role in overseeing the military’s overseers. Besides making speeches about waste fraud and abuse, what is he actually doing about corrupt military contractors? Can’t figure him out. Guess it’s whatever Bush tells him.
McCrazy is a full fledged Republican now….abandon yer principles even if they were all lies anyway.
AEY, essentially a one-man operation based in an unmarked office in Miami Beach, was awarded a contract worth $300m to supply the Afghan army and police in January last year.
But as the New York Times reported in a lengthy investigation, AEY’s president, Efraim Diversoli, 22, supplied stock that was 40 years old and rotting packing material.
Incredible
Chi-Com shit too boot!
Reported throughout the world – Sadr called the uprising, he sustained it, he overcame the Iraqi military/police, he called the cease fire, he dictated the terms. Hummm! Now let me see. Who is the real power broker here? Could it be….no….Rummy said in an early press meeting he didn’t invade Iraq to turn it over to the Shites…but it looks like, sounds like, walks like Sadr.
You could build an ammo factory for less than $300,000,000. Plus, this guy got $200M a year since 2002!
here’s what happens and how the republicans use facts the way they want;
there are some tax reductions that can help with that growth, but those deductions are specifically targeted and they are investments not cuts
for instance, we want alternative energy so we give tax breaks to investment in that field, we give breaks to homeowners that also invest in the technology
bing, we have invigorated an industry
but that’s because the tax relief was targeted, not because there was a tax cut
so the republicans take that data and translate that to mean tax relief in all industry will invigorate all industry
this however is obviously flawed, industry that is already profitablle will already invest in itself, everything else they will use for profit, whether it’s in the form of tax relief or higher prices, same thing to them
It’s raining bitter, foul mouthed McCain stooges.
-G
oh, I forgot to add;
when we provide tax relief, it is an investment, we are counting on returning that revenue lost when the industry we relieved is on profitable footing
In response to Jane @14,
I would really love to see a concentrated effort to debunk the “straight-talk-McCain” myth once and for all. This man has flipped and flopped so many times on the issues that it has become comical. I can no longer keep up with his changing mind!
I envision a running post with a picture of a spinning coin, one labled McFlip on one side, and McFlop on the other. McFlips would be positions he used to champion like not using torture, McFlops would be changes he made on positions like voting against the bill to ban waterboarding.
Raven, that’s an incredible essay. It’s funny that the Naval Academy, the place where the “Honor Code” is used to beat up Mids who make errors is so blithely busted my so many. Almost every Boat School grad I ever met could describe in excrutiating detail their trips “over the wall” to go drinking. Funny how nothing changes, and St. John would undoubtedly deny ever doing that now.
I remember being told once that when the Navy and Marine POW’s returned from North Vietnam they were sent to the Naval Aerospace Medical Institute (NAMI) in Pensacola for physicals and have been tracked since then. If that’s true, I wonder how McCain has done and what decline in cognitive and physical capabilities he has demonstrated since his repatriation. Might be an interesting thing to know, since he’s vying for the top job.
Yer doin’ a heckuva job Ayatollah.
-G
He was 19 when he declared himself president of AEY Inc. He pulled off a massive operation “all by his lonely”. That is very hard to believe. In fact, I will go out on a limb and call it a
LIEmisspoke.Correct. In addition, it is a Republican joke to allow outsourcing to run concurrent with tax cuts. Tax Cuts for big business should be limited to onshore companies only. That creates jobs for American workers.
The essay is also on Military.com and the comments, not suprisingly, are about 10-1 negative. My old man, an APD sailor in WWII told me about an academy grad who had a hole cut in the bulkhead to put an air conditioning unit in after misunderstanding the captains order. He was a mustang and loved to hammer the academy. “What’s the color of horseshit. . .
tw3k’s art at 10—wow! nice.
John of the Dead.
-G
sitahrgt tlak erpsexs bihslut, miacn leis udlninelgy and filp fopls all the tmie
huh?
Not digby — dday or tristero.
If Judas and the Antichrist attack Iran, the price of oil goes to $300 – $400 a barrel.
Such an option!
straight talk express bullshit mccain lies unendingly and flip flops all the time.
you accidentally spelled “and” and “all the” correctly
Moqtada al-Sadr is “The Roach” in Apocalypse Now.
Willard: Do you know who’s in command here, soldier?
Roach: Yeah.
I would not mind tax incentives (a better word then cuts) even if they are overseas IF the country they employ their labor has collective bargaining for their workforce, IF that company provides adaquate wages for healt care, vacation, education, retirement, if they clean the crap they create from our envirnment and if they pay all their bills, even those that the country they locate doesn’t force them into paying their bills
then they can also get a tax incentive if we need growth in that field
I don’t have a link but have received emails where all the words are mis-spelled purposely – the theory is that as long as the first and last letter are in the correct position, the brain will compensate and allow the reader to understand the intended words
Perris, I’m sure they can come up with one of Bush’s tap dances that makes it seem as if a tax cut somewhere resulted in more revenue somewhere else, but what it all boils down to is this: They are ly-ing.
This Laffer curve nonsense might qualify as the Big Lie in economics of our time, it’s been debunked so thoroughly by so many different people. It’s bad enough that McCain goes around spouting this stuff, but his advisors are saying things like “beyond economic science”! And if you think I’m hollering (I truly am sorry, I don’t mean to yell at you, it’s just that this is so reprehensible that it’s nearly a mark of the Beast), wait till you hear Krugman or Dean Baker.
Amazing bit of weird news
Airline hires temps to fill plane.
but there is the rub, that works too because the tax relief was and is an investment, that revenue must be returned by the industry for a net growth in revue including debt service and inflation
Counld’t find … Thanks.
They lie.
I got most of the message – was just teasing. :)
This is exactly why hearings must be held, so the true horror of all this is realized.
That the ‘rush to war’ was about getting started before the lies got unwound.
They knew once the toothpaste was out of the tube it would be too late to stop the hundreds of billions from being wasted — and stolen — by the MIC.
These are truly sick and heinous people.
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Citizen Raven and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Thanx for the heads up and link to the Kos postin’ of the POW letter on John McCrazy. I have been thinkin’ a lot lately about how fascist “political consultants” since Murray Chautner (Dick Nixon’s political mentor) have been crowin’ about gettin’ a turnip elected President if they have enough money. It is time to turn the tables and expose the fascist candidate for the turnip that he is…and do it in front of God and everyone startin’ with the blogs and runnin’ it into the corporate media through “Countdown” and “The Daily Show” and “Colbert”.
There is enough shit still stickin’ to NcCrazy’s old hide that a coordinated effort to sharpen our understandin’ of his military experience beginnin’ with his West Point and runnin’ through his captivity in comparison to the other 600+ POWs who served with ‘im could be very effective in framin’ the “Crazy John” image. I believe that this should be done beginnin’ in July and runnin’ through August when McCrazy’s campaign is gunna be dark for a couple a months except for free media. The DNC should have a number of good and factual ads ready ta go when the Democratic nominee is decided and start hammerin’ the old geezer day and night when the only other political ads are those for the presumptive Democratic nominee.
After the Republican convention, when McCain gets enough public money in the coffers he’ll hafta spend most of it defendin’ himself against himself, so ta speak…if Howard Dean and the DNC don’t have sompthin’ like this geared up and in the pipeline, I would be very disappointed.
KEEP THE FAITH AND REMEMBER THAT FEAR IS NOT A POLITICS…FEAR IS ONLY A WORD!!
I want one!
We need also to address how to respond to our co-citizens who think McBush is not radical enough. Jail’s not an option; neither is not talking to them: they aren’t just neighbors and sometimes friends or family, but members of Congress and Cheney acolytes spread throughout Bush’s DOJ, DOD and other agencies. They will not go quietly into that good night.
Jeez: I wonder who’s consuming all those imports if everybody is getting poorer, especially the rich. Foreign Affairs have a real stick up their butt on this one. Why am I not surprised?
p.s. I meant Annapolis not West Point…
The afternoon is slowly slipping away and I have much to do. Will check in later.
I haven’t read all the comments, but this is a nice little tidbit to look into about McCain and his lobbyists:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0331.html
The POW diary that Raven linked to is really good.
OT I liked the way Froomkin began his column today:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00879.html
Oh. Tucker Carlson on Tweety’s Hardball is now “MSNBC Senior Campaign Correspondent.”
Is that what they call someone who just lost his show due to low ratings?
We’ll definitely do everything we can to make sure people find out, Jane.
And a bit o’breaking news: Hillary will be following Obama to North Dakota this Friday evening for an appearance at the ND State Dem-NPL convention.
Yes, I did exhibit great restraint by not heading my quick posting as Breaking News: Sloppy Seconds?…great restraint….
Prairie Today: Two-fer
Jon Stewart oughta have fun with this….
McBush said:
““This goes back to when we didn’t have enough boots on the ground, after the initial military success,’’ he said. “Iranian clerics moved into the region, Iranian influence moved into southern Iraq, and we basically, and the British, did not do a great deal to prevent them. These are the penalties we continue to pay for the very bad mishandling of the war for nearly four years while they became solidly entrenched.”
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes…..elopments/
Is this true?
I corrected your typo.
Warmongers? Naw.
Two words: Peter Principle
Yea but can he wheel a 79?
Print newspapers ad revenue down 10% according to Tweety. Funny with two wars going on you would think they could sell more papers.
Unless the ad revenue loss is directly related to the hack job the newspapers are doing reporting the news.
Great links!
I can’t wait to see Chalabi in the dock.
Someone else posted that yesterday, don’t want to be taking credit.
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Citizen earthofhuntingdon:
Yes indeed!! But I think an Obama presidency will allow for a good bunch of Congressional elbow room especially in things like oversight investigations and health care. In fact, I really believe that, much like “the first 100 days” under FDR we’re gunna see a well coordinated effort to hit the ground runnin’ on taxation, social security, housin’ and regulatory reform while the administration gears up contacts with the major players like Syria and Iran ta end the Iraq war and rationalize the last a the oil reserves. If this is the case and the Democrats, especially in the House, have larger majorites I see Waxman and Conyers bringin’ some serious heat on the poltroons and Chickehawks and I expect we’ll see a bunch of the evidence in Fitz’s files.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND LET’S ELECT A REAL DEMOCRAT THIS NOVEMBER!!
The supposed Iranian clerks Like al Sadr were Iraqi exiles who had to flee Saddam and live in Iran. Iranian Persians clerks cut as much ice as when the Catholic Church sends a brown person to an all white parish. It doesn’t work to often.
This storyline won’t play in Iraq they know a Persian when they hear one. This storyline must be intended for the lets not fact check anything press.
Everytime the President talks/lies they should google his statement and see if its true. If its not then they should say that the President is lying.
Bush has no goodwill credit left on lies. The Press just lacks the Stones to do it. Thanks to google they have the ability most of the time to do it instantly.
It’s way too early to be meaningful, but McBush continues to lead both dem candidates in Gallup’s polling- both in national numbers and terms of critical states like Florida and Ohio.
Democrats might as well kiss off FL. People are so pissed here at having their primary vote taken away, that many are planning to vote McCain in protest. I can just see Howard Dean explaining to FL Dems about how completely stripping their vote should energize them to fight the Republicans.
May all come down to Ohio again. I actually made a mistake- McBush leads Obama but trails Hillary in that state.
Thanks for sharing that, JoFish.
The quote was from McCain, so I thought we could use it call out more of his BS. There is a definite move by his handlers to tie Iran to everything.
In view of the below, which begins as a Lamentation of the Exhausted Water Dragon, I think you’re right, these remarks of his can be used, because it appears that he consistently twists the facts on this. Herewith what I originally wrote:
So what is it with today already?
You’ve got Berlusconi about to be elected PM of Italy again. Norquist’s K Street Project is still looking for ways to squeeze the last bit of air out of our lungs —I guess all those oversight hearings haven’t put enough of a dent in their thrust.
And McCain and his advisors are trying to be a collective human wayback machine, first by tying the economy to phenomena that are beyond the capacity of science to explain (except they aren’t true), then by resurrecting the Iranian cleric influx canard of years ago.
Actually there might have been something of an influx in 2003, but it was of Shiites who had taken refuge in Iran from Saddam’s persecutions, and those groups are the ones in the Iraqi government who at present are supposedly pro-American, like the Badr Brigade (associated with what used to be called SCIRI), who make up most of the “Iraqi Government forces” involved currently in putting down the Sadrist guerillas. The clerics moving into the south from Iran were “our” guys.
The recent facts of the various alignments are outlined here. For comparison, here’s an early view from Juan Cole in 2003 on that “Iranian influx.” Things were pretty muddy when this article was written, but it was clear even then that Hakim’s SCIRI were a significant element of the groups who were moving in from Iran.
It is complicated, sure, but McCain wants the job of managing these complications. It is not asking too much for him to learn the facts and keep them straight from day to day.
It really sank in to me today, that McBush’s rationalization of the occupation or presence in Iraq for 100 years is no different at all from Hitler’s rationalization of occupying countries in Europe. Absolutely no difference. There will always be resistance and violence as long as the US is there. This should be pointed out.
Berlusconi again!!! Are the Italians completely crazy!
Do the TIme Warp!
I’d better be careful this evening, I’m in a stra-a-a-ange mood.
non comprendo italianos
As I understand the FLA situation: a republican bill passed by a republican legislature, and signed into law by a republican governor moved up the primary…
And, they want to vote republican?????