Comments on: Presidents Can Torture or Solve Global Warming

By: mui1

mui1 — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:51:48 +0000

Yes, calling Selise, extraordinary rendition is another one for our list of questions. Have we heard either candidate give their opinion on this xtraconstitutional crap? It apparently started under the Clinton administration, but was used with appalling vigour by Chimpy. Now will either Dem candidate pledge to stop it?

By: JamesJoyce

JamesJoyce — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:57:18 +0000

Ditto, Independents will not vote for the McCain in sufficient numbers for him to win the general election facing off against either H.R.C. or B.O. The boos where to load when he threw the pitch. Independents are the largest voting block in America, un-enrolled, uncontrolled and not brainwashed by partisan political agendas.

Concerning the 60 Minutes segment and the detained/imprisoned German citizen, Murat Kurnaz. The “German” in me was boiling and this little voice kept saying ~~nazis~~, ~~nazis~~, ~~fn nazis~~. Followed the illegal orders of “War Criminals,” subordinate Nazis inflicted tremendous horror on innocents. Sounded, sadly, the same to me last night!!

Congress should trump the State department’s refusal to allow Murat Kurnaz entry into US to testify before congress. Also the Canadian citizen who was renditioned should testify before congress!!

By: JLML

JLML — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:59:24 +0000

Putting on my tinfoil hat. Does anyone have the faintest conception of the dire straits of our vote-counting system? All Rove has to do from behind the curtain is to manufacture a scandal in order to confound the pollsters, call in the tech boys and voila President McCain.

By: brel1

brel1 — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:56:42 +0000

Given the chance the SCOTUS would do it all over again. The corruption has infiltrated the entire system.

By: mui1

mui1 — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:30:42 +0000

Pardon my language. But McCain is so f*ing scary, that if we Dems can’t win the election there is something wrong with us. I am sorry to quote Ralph Nader, but there it is.

By: johnSwifty

johnSwifty — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:14:43 +0000

A majority of what, partial progressive, Blue Dog holdovers and a bevy of your Barbara Boxer type democrats who have spent a lifetime becoming inundated by the system?

The Bill Frist Senate may have been a majority of lock stepping, little Republican lemmings, but it had the singular effect that those involved did in fact head towards the cliff with little question or concern. The Terry Shiavo incident stands as example where you’d think most self respecting Republican’s who had been elected under the idea of government staying out of the lives of private citizens, would take at least a token issue with Frist’s hegemony in that case. They did not. It was disgusting, but impressive in terms of cohesiveness.

What is fun for me, now, is watching the rats like Chuck Hegal run for the gangplank claiming, “I’m not a lemming, I’m a rat…A big fucking RAT, I tell you. And I’m gonna rat on all the Republican buds that I’ve voted with over the past 7 years.”

But the original issue is that the Reid Senate had no cohesiveness. There was never a majority, only the semblance of one and a flimsy semblance at that.

By: selise

selise — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:28 +0000

The Dems want a re-run of 2006 and need this war to run against since they won’t take on Bush now. That’s me you hear screaming in the background.

sorry, i can’t hear you over the sound of my own screams.

By: selise

selise — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:12:30 +0000

Now. If we want them to say disavow Blackwater.Howard Dean and Gore give us five months (so they say) to hold the feet to the fire. Now we can try that with Clinton, but why do we meet with resistance to doing the same with Obama? (that was a rhetorical question.)

it may have been rhetorical, but i’m still gonna give you my answer. *g*

i think it is, at least sometimes, because subconsciously we thing that one (or both) of the candidates can stand up to that kind of scrutiny. and because we fear that without rose colored glasses, people won’t support the D candidate.

i wish we could put aside both the cheerleading and demonization.

By: JLML

JLML — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:02:50 +0000

Unfortunately I heard my otherwise admirable, articulate, smart & “progressive” freshman congressperson give the Democratic version of “the “Iraquis need to take responsibility and get rid of the foreign terrorists” line only yesterday. The Dems want a re-run of 2006 and need this war to run against since they won’t take on Bush now. That’s me you hear screaming in the background.

By: mui1

mui1 — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:43:43 +0000

You don’t like the smoke and fog machines Selise?/snark.
Selise you are always point on.I mean the whole idea of Naomi Klein’s piece was that we hold our candidates accountable. Now. If we want them to say disavow Blackwater.Howard Dean and Gore give us five months (so they say) to hold the feet to the fire. Now we can try that with Clinton, but why do we meet with resistance to doing the same with Obama? (that was a rhetorical question.)