EschaCon08 was delightful, and was kind of characteristically Duncan: smart, funny and laid back. Got a chance to chat with some of the brightest folks in the blogosphere about ideas that will hopefully bear fruit in the 08 election and beyond, and have a lot of fun too. Highlights included Scott Horton’s indication that all roads in the Don Siegelman case do lead to Karl Rove, The Rude Pundit’s disquisition on what he wouldn’t fuck Ann Coulter with, Lambert’s pony, Susie Madrack’s car, Hammell on Trial’s I Hate Your Kid and the instant Filkertom classic, Tech Support For Dad.
Also got to meet Paul Krugman. It was surprising that the most confident of intellects, the one that can navigate his way with complete self-assurance when everyone around him has lost their mind, is quite shy and sort of compulsively, unintentionally funny. He said that we’re living in the age of the anti-Cassandra — she was the one who was always right, and never believed. But we’re ruled by people who are never right, and always believe. Well, when we look back on this era I think we’ll be saying once again that we should’ve listened to Krugman.
It’s a lesson painfully learned that you don’t always score points for being right too early.
Thanks to the EschaCon08 crew for putting on a fine conference. And sign me up for next year.
Related posts:
- Paul Krugman on “This Week”: “The Argument Against the Public Option is Sheer Nonsense”
- RNC Dirty Tricks: Steele-ing a Union’s ID
- Memo to Dems: Rahm, Not Hippies, Caused 1994 Debacle
- Cheetos Are Forever
- FDL Book Salon Welcomes Nicholas Schmidle, To Live or to Perish Forever: Two Tumultuous Years in Pakistan





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DFH Forever!
Jane!
Fabulous foto!
AmericEsch Express?
I coulda had the zed, but I stopped to read first. Am watching the B-ball game, hoping for a cinderella upset.
Olbermann on now.. competing with Sixty Minutes in my time zone.. I love it!
You’re in Central Time zone right?
Yes I am.. ES Arkansas.
I read it first too, I couldn’t believe no one beat me to it!
I have this notion that the Rude Pundit’s Coulter schtick will become Aristocratic. As in “…I would not fuck Andrew Sullivan,” “…I would not fuck Glen Reynolds,” “…I would not fuck Sean Hannity,” etc.
Coulter=anti-MILF
Well put, Jane! So sad, but, so true…!
Digby wearing those Clark-Kent specs should make conservatives glad phone booths are no longer around.
Drive-by: On CNN saw a story that Gravel is switching paties… Gonna run Libertarian.
Seconded.
hope you had a Happy Birthday OFG
My best friend lives in Russelville.
Happy birthday, OFG.
Happy Birthday, Oilfieldguy,
Me too.
My birthplace..)
Eschacon a meeting of progressive think tank poiticos it seems. It was a convention of writers. I wish I knew exactly what was discossed and what conclsions were drawn. At any rate the timing was great before the convention. Was the new get out of Irak plan discussed as to how we can further that goal?
Double Nickels was fun, what can ya say about 56?
Oh, well. My husband baked a cake for me.
I’ve been to Eureka Springs several times. Beautiful!
Happy Birthday to OFG and Demi!
Thanks busted…
It’s also Warren Beatty’s and Eric Clapton’s. Good company.
Speaking of DFH’s, did everyone see at C&L how Treasonous Bastard Joe Lieberman has completly gone over to the Dark Side and is trying to Bullshit answer his reasons?
I had to laugh at the scurrilous punk;
LIEBERMAN: Well, I say that the Democratic Party changed. The Democratic Party today was not the party it was in 2000. It’s not the Bill Clinton-Al Gore party, which was strong internationalists, strong on defense, pro-trade, pro-reform in our domestic government.
It’s been effectively taken over by a small group on the left of the party that is protectionist, isolationist and basically will –and very, very hyperpartisan. So it pains me.
It pains me.
Joe, you give me pains that GAS X won’t touch.
Happy Birthday demi!
Thanks everyone!
Next time, let’s do lunch.
Happy Birthday OFG & Demi!
You get some cake, Ellie…and, I think you did a nice job this am. :)
Happy Birthday OFG and demi. The object of the exercise is to collect as many as possible.
The prize? We doan need no steenking prizes.
Seconded about Ellie. That was quite a treat.
Happy day to you and OFG.
Jane
Attytood
ps thanks *bl
Yo, demi,
Aries Rawks!
Happy birthday.
wow. Was Geiger there?
just wow!
LOL. I miss patchouli. It smelled like rebellion.
Oh, man, KO’s not wasting his time on NBC. Hitting everyone.
Cake for all.
Hope you like french vanilla with chocolate frosting and french vanilla ice cream.
(stew with rice, also, either before or after the cake and ice cream.)
Thanks for the well wishes, my friends.
Patchouli? I always associate that with trying to mask the pot. Oh, yeah…
jane from uptop-”But we’re ruled by people who are never right, and always believe.”
i was taught to stay away from people like that. : )
jane again says-”Also got to meet Paul Krugman. It was surprising that the most confident of intellects, the one that can navigate his way with complete self-assurance when everyone around him has lost their mind, is quite shy and sort of compulsively, unintentionally funny. He said that we’re living in the age of the anti-Cassandra ”
funny, just told my family this—krugman was on charlie rose recently….he reminded me of my bachelor uncle sooooo much. he worked for the guggenheim institute, shy, till you talked to him….an intellectual historian and observer of people…when i had a question, i went to him, gave me reference books and atlases and art kits (and orange marmalade from england with a wax seal)……..a few months ago, when wacked out on drugs in the hospital, 82, told the nurse who asked him what he likes to do, (they loved him, he is very interesting) i watch people, i like to watch people, and you know people can be strange, but i find them very interesting….i like watching people. i like seeing what they are going to do. i like watching people.
i think krugman is like that.
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could someone please tell me what the word ’eschacon’ means?
looked it up, can’t find it anywhere, been buggin’ me.
Holy Joe really wants to be Vice President this time, especially after Big Dick redecorated the office and rewrote the job description.
Jane, glad of the conference, much needed work.
Thanks so much for what you do and what you’ve done.
It means a lot to the isolated scriveners, staring dumbly into our laptops in the hinterlands, looking for good news and something to hope for.
Oh, and by the way:
Looking GooD, young lady!
Busted,
When the Dems win big in November…
Joe is going to “feel the pain” when he gets his a** kicked off the committee Chairmanships and wonder where o’ where he is going to land in the new alignment of offices. Hopefully in the basement where the water is dripping on his head as he contemplates his miserable future. Geez, that man disgusts me.
Thank you Jane, and everyone who went to the conference. It’s great to read about and to see the photos.
Wow, after the beans, corn bread and collards earlier I get my fav ice cream with cake too. 72 virgins got nothing on this kinda chow.
VP is a non-starter for Joe, but a Cabinet position is a real possibility, I think.
I believe it’s a play on ‘Eschaton’ (Duncan’s website) and ‘conference’.
Ya know, I keep hearing that VP isn’t in the cards for Short Ride and yet I’ve got this gut feeling that won’t go away that it is indeed part of the plan.
Just a reminder. Bush throws out first pitch @8 on ESPN. Will there be booing or did the spectators have to sign loyalty oaths before entering the park?
Leslie Stahl did a crap interview with Gore. Learned nothing.
Are you gonna be a heroine again today? Wasn’t Short Ride enough this mornin’?
Better not turn his back on Condi either, heh.
Vice President of the Losers Club, will look good on his new business cards.
I cannot imagine how McCain, who already doesn’t have any credibility with conservatives in his party, picks a non-Christian for the VP spot.
There are lots of rewards other than VP that Joe can get from a McCain White House.
Not missing this. I just hope I can hear the booing.
72 virgins got nothing on this kinda chow.
Sucha poet you are.
That pretty much sums this place up for me.
We shall see! I’m so hoping Shrub gets booed wholeheartedly…!
Oh, I know it’s illogical as all get out. It’s just one of those things that won’t go away. And with that crowd nothing would surprise me. I’ve been hoping since 06 that Shrub would appoint him ambassador somewhere off in Mogg Mogg and he’d lose his Senate seat.
well, this thread seems to have gone off topic, just got this today, tried to post this on the gardening thread, but too late, so……
http://www.greatsunflower.org
they are trying to track bee pollination patterns.
free sunflower seeds to plant, then you watch for thirty minutes and count how many bees land on them.
i won’t go into all of the bee issues going on, here, just will say, plant a sunflower, watch the world buzzzzzzz by. count them and watch your garden grow in the future.
this was sent to me through my county extension agent.
is going around the gardening world to get as many people to plant as possible.
they need data, they’re stumped.
it’s important, to all of us.
this could be an entire post, i’ll stop here.
it’s free.
if you can do it, good on ya.
Gretchen LeBuhn
>
>
>Dear Master Gardeners,
>
>We have just launched The Great Sunflower Project, a community science
>project with the goal of increasing our understanding of where bees
>are doing poorly and how the pollination of our garden and wild plants
>are being affected. We’re hoping you will join us by planting
>sunflowers in your garden. Community, demonstration, and school
>gardens are invited to participate.
>
>We’ll send you some free native sunflower (Helianthus annuus) seed and
>twice a month, we’d like you to time how long it takes for 5 bees to
>visit that sunflower. This information will give us an
>index of pollination that we can compare across the United States.
>Once we know where bees are in trouble, we can start developing a plan
>to help them.
>
>You can see the details about the project and register at
>http://www.greatsunflower.org or contact us at sfbee@sfsu.edu.
>
>Do join us!
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>Gretchen LeBuhn
>Associate Professor
>San Francisco State University
>
>
any bets as to whether espn in d.c. is about to experience an “outage” for a few mintues?
Heh, not yet, anyways…!
Speaking of DFH’s: a flashback to 1966, I was in second grade. We were going around the class asking what everyone wanted to be when they grew up. The boys all wanted to be baseball players, astronauts or the president. For girls, the choices were teacher, stewardess, or nurse. Or of course, housewife.
I’d been seeing stuff on the news and I said I wanted to be a hippie. They looked interesting, and they looked like they were having fun. That was the only time my dear Miss M got mad at me. Not the right answer.
These guys think they’re so clever with the outage trick. A brand new stadium with 30,000 video capable mobile phones. It’ll be on YouTube before the outage is over.
Colin Powell is at the ballpark!
howdy y’all!
Keith Olbermann is on the teevee!
ok, jane, you still look like you’re 16!
thanks for all the great FdL nites!
He’s being Booed!
oh yeah, feel the love.
Couldn’t tell if they were booing. Anyone else?
No way! Boooed?
Warms my heart.
Oh yeah, he was booed, alright!
Feliz aniversário to all the birthday pups!
Happy Birthday to sweet demi and OFG!
If Lieberman thinks all this ass kissing is going to get him the McCain VP job it will be a rude surprise when ol’ Hillary kicks him in the teeth and slips past him to take the job and go back to being a republican. Hey, she and her old man have been campaigning for McCain for several weeks now.
Jane, what is this anti-cassandra thing? I quite like being cassandra!
so, nobody knows the definition of eschacon, and nobody likes bees and sunflowers.
Is Keith on MSNBC?
I took a few pics yesterday, and I caught my reflection in a few storefronts. I am a DFH, and proud of it.
You earned the understatement of the day award, Jane.
Truth is, we should have listened to lots of people, like Juan Cole on Iraq, for instance, instead of the parade of raving lunatics we see on the cable news networks. Sadly, they don’t write or say what’s convenient to the people who run those networks, so they don’t get much air time.
Was glad to see this meme come out of EschaCon. Good on Krugman!
Well said. Goes hand in tentacle with Generation Squeeb
3 pages of insight!
Salem’s intuitive women paid the ultimate price
and it had zilch to do with Karma.
More like Cassandras in a sea of Sovoks.
P.S. When Spiderpaws comes around, ask her
to tell you about Aquarians. That is all.
I thought that quite a few pups were having a birthday but I was mistaken, so to make it more personal…
Feliz aniversário OFG
Feliz aniversário demi
Saw those, Q. Beautiful work.
Nope,he is on network NBC tonight. I think against 60 minutes in most cities
Sometimes being a Kassandra is a good thing. Other times, not so much.
I would love to have a few of those DFH shirts.
Thanks.
Jane, you look wonderful. Thanks for all your great work.
Happy birthday to demi and OFG. And others who made an Aries debut.
(Sadly my birthday is March 19, the 5th anniversary of … you know …)
O/T. I can’t find KO. Is he on NBC? My local doesn’t show that. Dateline is on. Maybe it’s a local programming thing.
sorry, i missed all of the things that were going on at the lake right now..
happy bday ofg and demi……
hi cassie!
shrub is at a stadium? you kiddin’ me? musta taken a while for fans to get through security for that one.
i remember the first time when he ’threw’ the first pitch, humiliating.
and ko? i don’t have cable, a report, please.
my bad for thinking that definitions and bees and sunflowers were being ignored on purpose, i wondered.
On the East Coast, KO was on NBC at 7 PM EST up against 60 Minutes. It was a good show. :)
Thanks again LooHoo.
And I wouldn’t mind standing besides Jane either.:-)
it depends what time it is. he is on here in mountain time but he already finished in eastern time.
Did Chimpy get booed?
-G
Well I am going to be president of the United States, and I do know how to throw a baseball, but I am not a very good pitcher.
I’d assume that eschaton derives from the Greek “eschato”…which refers to the last days or “end times”.
Eschato
Eschatology is the religious study of end-times prophecies.
That’s opposed to E-Scatology, which is the study of the Bull-dada of rightwing bloggers.
quebecois–i have to admit, one of the moments i was totally irked off at not having high-speed was trying to look at your photographs………starting with the day you posted them accidentally, i had already gone to the site and looked. got back to the thread and you had told the mod ’oops;, i felt like a peeping tom, but wow, what images.
i said nothing. cuz you obviously didn’t want that part out.
i was really proud of you when you finally posted them a few days later on purpose.
they are worthy of viewing, worth the time of the viewer/observer of your art and the effort that you took to make them.
i don’t know french, would insert a cute french phrase, all i can think of is ’shalom’. and no, i’m not jewish.
Bull-dada
brilliant!
thanks cinn at 93, as always, a foundational link.
(it was buggin’ the crap outta me, forgot to resort to the source, latin, cuz thought it was a made-up word, there i go thinkin’ again.)
Are you in SoCal? I see dateline too. Ick! It’s on against 60 minutes on NBC (not MSNBC) wobblybits tells us.
Why don’t you have a high speed connection? Not available or the expense?
They are well worth it if you can afford one.
Yep! He was to throw the ball out at the first pitch for the Senators at the new National Stadium.
Bush Throws Out First Pitch
Seems that some folks are beginning to show their disrespect for the man.
“It’s important to bear witness to the times even if you can’t change them.”
So said John Tinker, speaking in memory of his mother, Lorena Jeanne Tinker, 86, Missouri psychologist, mom and concerned citizen – aka civil rights activist. She who won a landmark Supreme Court ruling in 1969, Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, concerning the exercise of students’ free speech rights in school.
It began in 1965, when the then 44 year-old mother’s children were suspended from school for wearing black armbands to protest the war in Vietnam. Long before “Bong Hits for Jesus” made the front page, and yielded a set back for those same rights.
According to the Columbia Missourian, Dr. Tinker “made it her mission to change what she could and chronicle what she couldn’t.” An epitaph for which we would all be envious, which explains why a lot of us are addicted to this blog.
http://www.columbiamissourian……speech-ri/
via howappealing.law.com
dmac, ask Q about his priceless collection of signatures…
btw. If I’m around, I’ll report to you on KO Pacific time. Can’t promise, cuz I have a nephew coming over to get some furniture…
solai–yeah, i knew that part, but i wondered where it CAME from…..that’s just the way my mind works… : )
cinn seems to have found the root of it, in latin. the one place i didn’t look, cuz i got caught up in the modern useage of it.
another example of
watch the birdie over here.
Wow, dmac, I’m blushing. Being viewed as an artist knocks me off my chair. Thank you so much for those wonderful english phrases. Can’t really express in words how that makes me feel. Thank you infinitely.
Yea, Holy Joe as Secretary of State. Or Attorney General. Either way, he’d make sure we never learned where any of the proverbial or real bodies were buried.
I saw a flash of his prune puss.
DC aint Albania!
-G
Oh, Condi would know exactly which vertebrae to proverbially split with those five inch stilleto heels.
loo hoo at 101–thanks my love, i saw it!
(and i saw last night when you beckoned me back, thank you, i was so burnt, needed rest)
my uncle, whom i wrote about earlier in the thread at 39, would tell me the biographies of every single actor/actress in the old movies we watched hours on end when i was growing up.
i know many of the autographs that quebecois now has to bequeath to someone.
quite a responsibility.
quite an honor for him.
thanks for the ko report..
and sometimes i get irked cuz of the ’spoiler’ alert ban on shows………i don’t get cable, and you west-coasters don’t say later what went on, yet the east coasters aren’t allowed to say…….so,any reports you have, i’ll read.
i don’t have cable, and am a ’newshound’–that name was given to me by our local radio station owner. i let him know when things aren’t so accurate. he likes it. he’s a newshound, too.
love to you.
Son of a bitch bought the stadium seats 3/4 out.
Are people still wondering what eschacon means? I believe it means a convention sponsored by Atrios’ blog, which is called Eschaton. And Eschaton, apparently, means the end of everything, and several other things.
Wikipedia
Hippo birdies two ewes to OFG and demi
How would Droopy Lieberman react upon discovering that he is not invited to the Bush/Moonie Paraguay sub state after Bush’s third term has wrecked every thing permanently?
He threw high… That doesn’t surprise me.
And walking in fast and walking out fast just shows how scared he is. He knows the end is near, and that after all, there WILL be payback.
earl at 100-
wow, i was in the 5th grade then and remember how restictive society was then, very divided, she was a very brave woman.
many probably shunned her and made her feel like an outcast, not too many to cling to or gather with.
very brave.
always amazes me what grabs hold of someone to make them cast aside all of the things that make us feel like we belong, make us feel comfortable, for something that we feel is right and we know will isolate us. what an amazing woman.
I saw your comment, dmac, on how you write to editors/reporters in a cool, calm way about what they misunderstood with regard to reporters’ work. Brilliant, and I shall follow your lead!
quebecois at 103–may i in the future call you q-man? i am very french deficient, and i have to think too hard when i reply.
q-man said–”Wow, dmac, I’m blushing. Being viewed as an artist knocks me off my chair. Thank you so much for those wonderful english phrases. Can’t really express in words how that makes me feel. Thank you infinitely.”
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in response to my heartfelt-” quebecois–i have to admit, one of the moments i was totally irked off at not having high-speed was trying to look at your photographs………starting with the day you posted them accidentally, i had already gone to the site and looked. got back to the thread and you had told the mod ’oops;, i felt like a peeping tom, but wow, what images.
i said nothing. cuz you obviously didn’t want that part out.
i was really proud of you when you finally posted them a few days later on purpose.
they are worthy of viewing, worth the time of the viewer/observer of your art and the effort that you took to make them.
i don’t know french, would insert a cute french phrase, all i can think of is ’shalom’. and no, i’m not jewish.”
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this is a political blog, and i looooove politics, and i know politics, even though i don’t speak up enough.
i like to be anonymous in the corner so i can watch what is going on, there, it’s out.
so i am going to be declarative here.
what i really know is art. up and down. inside and out.
you make good art. exceptional art. keep on making art.
loo hoo–i watched my dad ’reason’ with people for years…….
then the godfather came out…..
all he did was state the facts.
sander-expense.it was made available a few months ago….. limited budget, but i’m not complaining, life is good, and i’ve learned a lot from having a ceiling. my friends know i salivate about it.
locally owned company, frognet, is outrageous. love them to death. so, stay with them. but, high-speed is way high. i rag them about it all of the time. ”are you offering high-speed for 10 dollars a month like veriZon?” they laugh. talk to a person, get an honest answer. so, i stay with them.
verizon available, won’t get into all of the whys and wherefores, many. all mean ’no freakin’ way’. my parents, in their 70’s, got so pissed at them that they cancelled all services and are now getting all cable, phone and internet services through cable. that’s sayin’ a lot.
it’s a real inner struggle about this one. really. you can’t imagine.
it’s a bitch.
but love, it’s a bitch.
I agree Smedley.
She’s talking about me.
Hey, I searched on eschaton before replying and saw a few pretty much correct answers. And I forwarded the Sunflower Project link to a friend. Does that make me a DFH?
The weirdest thing is the large number of op-ed writers who still accuse their opponents of being Cassandras, without realizing that by making the accusation they are saying that their opponents are right. Perhaps they are still under Apollo’s curse.
Thanks again.
I’m growing found of q. It’s like that continuum omnipotent, omniscient freak in The Next Generation. Find it so ironic, compared to who I strive to be.
Please forgive my abject ignorance, but without a caption to go by…
Who, please, is in the photo?
Thanks.
Apparently NOT talking about TRex…