Yay!

*handing out popcorn and jujubee’s to the first 10 pups*

Hi Suzanne

Wabbit!

Really?

Suzanne!

its my thread and i will if i wanna (sung to its my party and i’ll cry if i wanna)

Suz, is it ok to continue with some tunes (before I have to crash) ?

Suz!

Yum! GM free popcorn, of course?

hi suzanne!

i sure hope dr kirk (or any of the other doctor pups) don’t take this video personally.

off topic IS the topic so fire away with the tunes…

Suzanne, you meant the first 10 BESIDES you, right??? ***looking up with sad, hungry eyes***

dayam, doc, formal wear isn’t necessary for cartoons

yes ma’am

This is for kevinp with love for choo choo music!

Hmmm… I started to answer the Neillson survey and it just disappeared… Could it be ’cause I answered it about two weeks ago?

could very well be… i still haven’t gotten it :(

This is my kind of stuff Canterbury anyone?

Local news did a suck up to McBush segment even showing his new national commercial ….. the American that America is waiting for…. quick… I think I’m gonna barf

Alrighty then! Let’s do the Cool Jerk

ya would think with the amount of time i spend around here it would have increased the odds of my getting it…

I wonder if they’re in the dryer again…?

Hey, where’s my popcorn? Can we do toons or are we doing ‘toons? :)

Oh, and Hi Suz… trying to make me do another all-niter? I never slept on the plane.

Just remember – Everybody Looks Good at the Starting line. :-D

How’s evvabody doin this sleepy (and hung-over for me) Saturday night?

So you made it home ok?

Dunn Duggit…. Whats up DOC?

hey jofish.. both works for me :)

hey that guy.. nice work in of a paul thorn title :)

Hiya Katy… sorry we didn’t get together, but I passed my test (first of two). Next one in a month…but not in warm Phoenix :-(

ThatGuy — sleepy yes, but not hung-over (yet)

Why thankyee, that was might purty.

http://digg.com/comics_animati…..ssed_Bunny

oops

thanks nahant.. how goes dood?

I did, the one other thing I miss is Guedos burritos. A friend took me and now I am an addict.

cute video suz

They are predicting a “cool” trend…. probably drop into the 70’s… brrrr

Hey… is Channel 12 watching FDL?
they just mentioned JD Hayworth begging for money….. even showed him fat before the gastric bypass WE ALL paid for…

all those sitting in the first 5 rows will find a special present under your seats

thanks tex. they are a lot of fun to find and select for everyone’s viewing pleasure

It’s stream-of-consciousness time here in EDT-ville…

Sly and the Family Stone — I Want To Take You Higher

LOL!

Dang…. that is what I get for always sitting in the back….

time for me to turn in. g’nite all

pain free sleep wishes tex

sweet dreams Betsy.

katymine – JD is hawking “NO-Money-Down” property ownership on late night infomercials now!
Saw one in January. Surreal.

Thanks y’all.

Katymine, you can have my door prize. I don’t drink Tang.

bonsoir Betsy, dors bien.

nite Tex, sleep well.

infomercials (bwahahahaha)

Mukasey and Public Integrity
By Scott Horton
Stone Walled by this administration at every turn! When oh when are our elcted officials get off their dead ass and Impeach this Administration top to bottom!

Tang , the drink of astronauts. I wonder how well it mixed in zero gravity?

We get him on a 50,000 watt KFYI drive time 4-7 wingnut crap talk radio… hey has he been keeping up his tan?

Yep. Big-ass belt buckle and shit-kicker boots, leaning in really close to the “studio model-types”, huckstering his ass off.
I literally thought I was dreaming.

back when better living with chemicals was considered to be a good thing

If I don’t get to sleep soon, I *will* be a hurtin’ pup in the AM….good night friends :-)

i would call that a nightmare, not a dream, dood

Great Suz, hows about you?

g’nite ll

At least he got the first part down.

here i am

from Wiki:

Tang was used by the NASA Gemini[1] space program. A NASA engineer working with the Gemini Space Program on a life-support module explains the story of how and why it was used. Paraphrased:

“… There was a particular component of the Gemini life support-system module which produced H2O (water) among other things. This was a byproduct of a reoccurring chemical reaction of one of the mechanical devices on the life-support module. The astronauts would use this water to drink during their space flight. The problem was, the astronauts did not like the taste of the water because of some of the byproducts produced, which were not harmful of course. So, they added Tang to make the water taste better …”[5]

However, Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin has stated that Tang was not consumed on his moon mission: “We… instead chose a grapefruit-orange mixture as our citrus drink. If Tang was on our flight, I was unaware of it.”[6]

The inventor of Tang, William A. Mitchell, also invented Pop Rocks.

It has long been believed that Tang got its name from China because of its high content of sugar. The Chinese name for sugar is Tang.[

We wuz talking Fleetwood Mac the other nite, and I found this out there. No video, but interesting early FM from “Mystery to Me”…

hahahahahaha!

It didn’t mix very well on Earth, that I do remember. It was great on vanilla ice cream, though.

Man, here I thought I’d have to wait until next Friday for more Suzanne and OT nite at the Lake…

JoFish, that’s one of my favorite tunes evah….yes I am lurking ;-)

I do late late nite on tue, thur, sat and alternating sundays. ya’ll are stuck with me again tomorrow nite

Yeah me too… love the drums at the intro. Used to do that (well, still do) for a warm-up all the time.

jofish, eureka springs does the other nites

all late late nite posts are off topic, every nite

I have achieved Tubularity at Chez Rat Hole, finally!

JoFish, what is Bob Welch doing these days — if anything?

:~)

*smack*

didn’t miss that time

Never a Bob Welsh fan, ceptin for that tune.
From way back. Thanks.

SPEW!!!
Spilled my MT. Dew it was so swift!

(I love my weekends off, but I really really am heading to bed in a minute or so)

This is pretty good.

That was funny, I don’t care who ya are.
Good one Sherrif.

No idea, wish I knew.

Hiya, pups! Just home from th annual meeting of Friends of Mat-Su, a progressive organization where I live that educates the public on local planning issues. I got elected to my third term on the board.

oh well

woohoo. congratulations, et

Did anyone have FDL misappear?
One minute it was here and poof it was gone…

Peter & Jeremy.
Those were the days.

So howz about a blast from the past? No higher falsetto in Rock and Roll…well at least at the time…Frankie Valli.

just a hiccup in the tubes.. bet the forkers at nsa parked their truck on the tubes for a second just because they didn’t get chocolate donuts in their tray this evening….

Yeah, I thought it was my laptop (or the Fleetwood Mac).

Cool deal ET!

never the mac

Waving at the nice NSA guys….. ya know … they just don’t pay those guys from the NSA enough ….. have a nice nite guys….

Wow, FDL disappeared, and booted me out
took me quite a while to relog in.

Thanks for that, nahant. Depressing as it is…

How are you feeling?

you musta really pissed off the nsa guys.. i didn’t have to relog

Do you see a big white panel van parked outside your home?

3 guys inside bitching about not having chocolate donuts included in their snack tray tonight?

Mine’s left over from last night. Got home from seeing Paul Thorn and got a little overly religious with the cheap, plonk rum. With the economy the way it is, there won’t be many bottles of Pyrat in the future…

Hey SUZE – what do you have to do when life hits you like a truck? (Esoteric question, Suze knows) :-D

Now this is funny
McBush Mockery

Okay, who out there had this LP, you know the real LP with the real cover, zipper and all? Didn’t Andy Warhol design it for them (T/F?) I think I still have mine in a box of vinyl I keep meaning to convert to digital.

Also, I got this song stuck in my head after I saw an interview with the actress Kiersten Dunst (I think) who said she “Love this song about the pretty horses, it made her feel peaceful…”. Snort. Yeeeeah… sure kid, keep thinking that.

Naw, but a beat to shit YUGO has been circling around my block for months.
Did they get their budget cut?

Doing all right. How about you?
Just waiting until the hearings start so Bush can’t give out “GET OUTTA JAIL FREE PASSES” to everyone who has served this crook…. I can’t see what they are waiting for…

time to get a new truck?

NSA or not, I will say that I’m really worried about drivuing to the states and crossing the border. I’ve never had a problem before, but with the list soon crossing the million mark, and seing how desperate those ratfuckers in the administration are, I wonder how easy my next trip will be???

*raises hand*

what a great song, I’d almost forgotten it

Easy just buy a Bush/Cheney 04 bumper sticker,put on a piece of cardboard in your back window and wear a conservative suit and say “the surge is working” with a smile. Hell, they might make you a citizen before you can say “declining dollar”. LOL

Kewl, how long after you bought it did you “unzip” it? LOL…

i admit i let out a squeal of glee when i stumbled upon it in the utubes… i had totally forgotten it

Still have it, not one scratch either. I’m extremely anal about my vynil, no one touches it. And the zipper is also off limits!

I LOVE LYLE LOVETT! What was Julia thinking???

i know, loohoo, i know!

Naw, just privatized! That YUGO cost the taxpayers $45 million.

Heading off to bed….. Nite all…. Nite nice NSA guys…..

There’s a Yugo that still runs? I’m impressed. :)

ROFL…

I bought 3 and never unzipped them, but friends told me there was something back there…

i have the sticky fingers vinyl – stored away along with the white album, st peppers, cheap thrills, led and others.

g’nite katymine

falling asleep. night all.

g’nite spurious – nice to see ya again :)

nite spurious

And the zipper is also off limits!

OK…I won’t even ask about eye contact.

g’nite, spurious – good to see you here

(casts eyes down again)

what’s up doc (with the formality)

Born in East LA

Somewhere I have a Japanese import of Cosmos Factory with a huge distortion placard on the front and a red vinyl disk.

oh crap – forgot about formal jammies…

where can I make a suggestion for the next WordPress brew recipe? All this handle changing is weariing me out?

Back in a flash – sir. :0)

Good evening, had a wondeful nap by candle light during Earth Hour hope you turned of power between 8 and 9PM. Remember the planet is our host be a good guest for your stay as it orbits us around the sun.

The Mordor Orks* at the white house want to blow up another ME country….problem is the Orks have ONLY A MONTHS SUPPLY OF BOMBS remaining. The Ork military is stretched, worn and needs re-supplying. So logisically Iran/USA war is not a go as our troops would have little cover to extract themselves from Irak. Not that Bushco and his Ork comrades wouldn’t love to bomb them ants as Admiral “your hope” Fallon described the Iranians to “smitherines”. (If only this was a comic book.)

*Mordor the industrialist in The Lord of The Rings. Created during the battle for world domination by Germany and the USA indusrial/military complex during WWII. The Ring is the ring of Power which the Neocon industrialist used to destabilize the Oil barons of the ME.

The Main Stream Media was used as a propaganda tool by Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels, leader of the NSDAP’s propaganda machine. One of his first acts was to deprive the populus of education by burning the books. The privatization of public schools under Bushco is a milder form along with radio GaGa and TV indoctrination but the attack on public education is agressive and reading is down.

The SS took over the Gestapo 1939 and became more secret by dropping the black uniforms, infighting. Some compare the NSA/CIA and the Blackwater tactic of fear and collaboration ala 5th column spies like the Vichy to the Gestapo of Nazi Germany. The fascist element is unmistakable.

The neocons have become super rich in the last 7 years as Bushco has opened the coffers of the US treasury to them, rolled back and exempted them from taxes and cheated investors out of trillions.

Fascism is alive and well around the world thanks to laissez faire capitalism. The Orks are a force to be reconed with. There is plenty of subjects for new topic threads but probably most have been done and deserve stronger analysis.

Stuggle Hard!!! Big Brother is watching you. From above and on all electronic messages. When the citizens are being spied on it is time to raise the security alarm to the highest level of neocon alarm.

This early afternoon, went for a walk. Caught a DFH reflecting back at me.Cold?

sir?
(looking down as if to double check)
sir???

Thanks for the good cheer.
But if you bring that in here, it must be accompanied with tunes.
What you got for us?

california dreaming?

sorry suz – conditoned reflex from my subbing at 122

Any other Tower of Power fans out there? Growed up listening to this. Almost had a chance to see them in Oakland, but the ship left from Alameda a day early.

Love the T.O.P horns! So awesome!!!

When does the Two Minutes Hate begin?

Shoulda turned Bugs into a Dixie Chicken

well, i would not say ‘must’ since off topic is the topic but good toons always make the medicine go down easier

Now that’s a hippie!
Pleased to meet you.

ROFLMAO

View this users Facebook profile nahant March 29th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
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In response to Loo Hoo. @ 93

Doing all right. How about you?
Just waiting until the hearings start so Bush can’t give out “GET OUTTA JAIL FREE PASSES” to everyone who has served this crook…. I can’t see what they are waiting for…

I’m starting to think there might be a method to the dems’ madness. Nobody’s guilty before January of 2009, nobody gets a pardon. *Pollyannasville* But it’s possible…

you’re still a young man, ba-by

Would he have had Little Feet? :)

Use to sing that at church, early seventies…

loves little feat! dayam, and with bonnie too – very sweet

i had the album but sadly traded it away for a crappy (but cute) transistor radio. shudda kept that vinyl

Emmie Lou and Bonnie…nice find.

Here’s hoping they keep the Unitary Executive for a couple of years, to clean up the DOJ, and to send all the neocons to Guantanamo for a long vacation…

No good. Presidents can pardon people for crimes they have not yet been charged with. Ford pardoned Nixon.

Dis one me fave Spanish Moon

can king george 43 issue pre-emptive pardons?

No, Bush will grant pardons for everyone in his crew. Blanket pardons for any crime that may have been committed.

you musta really pissed off the nsa guys.. i didn’t have to relog

Play this real loud for ’em… ;-)

http://maxmarginal.blogspot.co…..unity.html

fork

Nixon was never charged with a crime, yet Ford pardoned him. Idiot.

pre-emptive meaning what? Did 148 and 151 answer your question?

isn’t there something about he can’t pardon if he is part of the crime? (grasping at straws here)

It wouldn’t surprise me if Boosh tried to pardon himself…don’t know whether that has ever been tried…or he could pardon Darth, resign, and then let Darth pardon him…wouldn’t put it past them, war criminals…

Uhh, no. THis will explain everything. :-D

Presidents can’t grant pardons for someone who’s been impeached from office. That’s the only limitation I know of.

That’s what I’ve been wondering too.

you got the mastered disc back from nashville and all is ready to go?

…limitation…

This is a meaningless term to this bunch. I wouldn’t sweat it.

If Nancy Pelosi would do her job instead of being all “bipartisan” and shit, we’d have an impeachment and this would be a moot point. I get that she was afraid of the R’s running against her being a “stealth” prez candidate (3rd in line) but holy hell it’s sick what she’s let them (and yes Let Them get away with.

I could go look up impeachment on Wiki but it’s getting late–fading fast

yeap, one of the worries that have crossed my mind when talking about boosh and pardons

Nope, that won’t happen for at least a week. Still being mixed.

It’s our buddy singing. :-D

What’s it take to charge them in the Hague? His pardon can’t reach that far.

Good point. Damn.

People – just remember, if there’s hope for me there’s hope for you…you just got to RISE UP!

Very nice photos, Quebecois! Looks like you live in a beautiful (cold) city!

Boosh pardons are part and parcel of their preznitcies. Daddy 41 did it for all the Iran Contra guys. You have to think that everyone from Darth Dick to Dougie Feith will get a pardon.

you dog, how did you get that! that’s some sweet paul thorn

We saw them a few years ago at Shore line…Stage center left 9th row… lookig them right in the eye… what a great show :>)

Oh, it looks beautiful there!

Well, goodnight folks. I’m going to dream about bombs falling on Paraguay…

Suzanne, thanks a bunch. It was lovely.

Bonne nuit tout le monde.

Dylan.

g’nite q – sweet dreams

LooHoo, Margot, thanks for the nice compliments, I appreciate that.

Off to fly my B-52 now…;-))

nite Q. remember to get that bumper sticker… :)

Bush Is gonna blanket pardon anyone even remotely connected to what has been done to this country and then Dick Cheney is going to leave a sign on the door pointing everyone to this website.

GWB pardon “to do” list Dec. 2008

Darth
Rummy
Addington
Gonzo
Petraeus (and all commanders who have served in Iraq)
Rice
Hadley
Chertoff
Ashcroft
Yoo
Tenent
Fythe
Mukasey
Bremner

feel free to add names

Fythe

Feith

I can’t even bear to think about the people who’ll be pardoned. But if McClusterfuck sins, I’m going to think seriously about trying to emigrate to New Zealand.

Hahahahaha! I have to bookmark that…

but not the generals who disagreed with him

You know I’ve asked the braniacs about this, and it seems to me that Nixon had been charged, just not convicted in the senate.

I know there is something called a blanket pardon, but I really think it has to involve people who have been charged Let’s ask Christy or LHP.

Here’s to hoping.

THat is to say – if McClusterfuck Wins…

If he issues pardons, will he issue them at the 11th hour, or will they even be known at all?
I know they’ve always had to be made public before. That doesn’t seem to mean anything now. Maybe…..
Maybe he’ll have to have a minor procedure done, like a colonoscopy with a bit of sedation, and he’ll transfer (haha) power over to Cheney for an afternoon.
Then Cheney will pardon everyone, and keep the info in his office which is like no man’s land, under no jurisdiction. Maybe it already happened. Anyone ask yet?

Thanks, needed to re-scrub the shrub. Another Dylan

specially for busted

Quebecois took some really nice pics! By the time I got back here he was gone, so I didn’t get to tell him that.

Nixon was never impeached. The House Judiciary Committee voted out articles of impeachment, but they had not been acted on by the full House. What Ford pardoned Nixon for was any and all crimes he may have committed. He had not been indicted or charged with any crimes. I’m pretty sure about this one.

But, if she brings up impeachment and he is charged in the house, but he is cleared of all charges, which he would be in the senate, there’s no going back. No double trials in the USA.

Good questions.

Awesome…

Is the who’s the joker and who’s the thief in 2008? I have a good idea, but those NSA guys might be listening *g*

I really, really hate to admit it it but I have seen that before, I spend way too much time on the internet.

But when he leaves office he could be criminally indicted. Or if the Hague could serve process before he escaped to Paraguay, he could be charged with war crimes. Aquittal in an impeachment trial would not negate those. I believe.

Another one for Busted

I’m not saying I know as many facts about this as I should…
But I seem to remember conversations about this then and since, and since no one challenged it then or since, the question was never answered.

I don’t recall a provision in law that allows it, but I think Ford’s pardon was unchallenged.

Ah, too true but in the case at hand, I believe that the overriding thing would be that “Executive Privelege” does not survive and impeachment inquiry (I seem to have read that somewhere). That would mean that every bad piece of paper the sumbitch ever saw/wrote/talked about would show up in the committee, and could be used for a criminal prosecution even if his term ran out. I don’t think he could pardon himself, and his only option might be to appoint Darth on Jan 19th and resign pending a pardon (ala Tricky Dick). Ick. Republicans are so slimy.

Well, if we’re keeping with this criminality theme, then some prison music may be in order.

Too funny!

I don’t believe there is any procedure in the Constitution for challenging a pardon.

Unfortunately, in my opinion.

Look at this list of Iran-
Contra
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cters. Some did time. I’m not sure why some did and some were pardoned. I think you can only be pardoned if you have been to court (or congress) and found guilty of a crime.

That’s great!

i was looking for the bert and ernie that has pesci/deniro dubbed in but could not find it… had to do a quick substitution with an old stand by

That is simply not the case.

Again, see Ford/Nixon.

IAAL.

Good night. :)

Something to brighten up the evening/early AM… for our inestimable hostess with the mostest…

No dice on that link, Loo Hoo.

(laughing) when my oldest girl was a pre teen, that song blared, alternated only by early madonna

g’nite neuro

Good night, all. Sweet dreams.

nite neuro

I remember it the same as neurophius @ 193. Nixon was never actually charged and impeachment hadn’t been passed by the house, yet Ford pardoned him of any crimes that he may have committed.

I don’t know why. First hit on wiki searching iran contra…

Yeah, I seem to remember it that way too… I also remember the resignation speech. We all thought we’d see his ass in the slammer, but no… Jerry had to go pardon the fuck. And it’s been down-fuckin-hill since.

Politician

See this wiki

yeap, as soon as that was brought up, i went duh, i known that – and it was my original forking question

Gnite TOW

Ford helped start the road to ruin of the US by doing that. Of Reagan did more damage than anyone because he started the distribution of wealth back to the wealthiest.

Reagan ruined America. Bush just put the last nail in the coffin.

Are you guys trying to tell me Bush can walk out the door and pardon anyone who ever worked in his administration for any possible crime committed while he was in office? Like he has a magic wand?

Nixon was different, he was being impeached…

g’nite TOW

nixon was NOT impeached… they had started it but he resigned to avoid the actual impeachment trial.

yes, boosh can pardon anyone (with limited exceptions) as he is walking out the door and there is not a fucking thing that can be done about it

iirc – and ianal

Loo Hoo – If they pull that shit, even Paraguay won’t be safe.

sending this out to nancy pelosi

…Unless Nancy gets off her asstable and impeaches his ass.

I keep saying Bush is going to pardon everyone and then resign with two hours left and then Cheney will pardon Bush and then off they go.

And from your page:

On March 1, 1974, former aides of the President, known as the Watergate Seven — Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell, Charles Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian and Kenneth Parkinson — were indicted for conspiring to hinder the Watergate investigation. The grand jury also secretly named Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator.

hopefully, she will grow a pair

LOL

I’m not sure what not pardoning Nixon would have done. We’ll never know.

Nixon created more liberal programs and agencies domestically than did Bill Clinton. He was the only president to come close to openly questioning the efficacy of our war on drugs. He started the EPA. But his DOJ was almost as criminal as is Bush’s, and he killed more people in Asia than has W. For nothing.

The books he wrote after his presidency were uneven in quality and ideas, but they were not neo-con, and he proposed in his books many ways toward negotiating international problems that are worthy of review. Had he gone to prison, he probably would have not have written the books, or they would have been far different in content.

Yep, keyword unindicted

You’re not holding your breath, right?

…and he killed more people in Asia than has W. For nothing.

Shhh! Don’t tell chimpy, he might see it as a challenge to his manhood.

i figured i would start when glenda the good witch of the north showed up to make the announcement that nancy was in da house…

hey et

Well, we need to ask the pros. I don’t think Bush can pardon people who have not been charged with crimes. He’ll pardon Libby, Abramoff, because they could take him down, but I bet he won’t pardon the Cunningham types.

Dis house?

What’d I Say

oh yeah…(head bopping)

burning (live)

I like dis house even better! Bonnie’s cool.

hiya, Suzanne! Spring is coming. My arugula is almost 3 inches high.

All right! Kewl Ray!

things always go better with bonnie that guy

no way, et. that is a lot for so early!

Good one!

Love dat voice she’s got.

That led me to this Bonnie fave

crawl back

my fav bonnie isn’t on utube (love me like a man)

wiki:

A pardon is the forgiveness of a crime and the penalty associated with it. It is granted by a sovereign power, such as a monarch or chief of state or a competent church authority. Clemency is an associated term, meaning the lessening of the penalty of the crime without forgiving the crime itself. The act of clemency is a reprieve. Today, pardons and reprieves are granted in many countries when individuals have demonstrated that they have fulfilled their debt to society, or are otherwise deserving (in the opinion of the pardoning official) of a pardon or reprieve. Pardons are sometimes offered to persons who, it is claimed, have been wrongfully convicted. However, accepting such a pardon implicitly constitutes an admission of guilt, so in some cases the offer is refused (cases of wrongful conviction are nowadays more often dealt with by appeal than by pardon).

I love live versions. She has a great band, too.

Best “Love Me Like A Man,” I ever heard, believe it or not, was the Dixie Chicks.

Not on youtube, but is online! (I think)

Is this right?

from your link:

Pardons and clemency in the United States

See also: List of people pardoned by a United States president

In the United States, the pardon power for Federal crimes is granted to the President by the United States Constitution, Article II, Section 2, which states that the President:

shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

The Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites and amnesties.[1] All federal pardon petitions are addressed to the President, who grants or denies the request. Typically, applications for pardons are referred for review and non-binding recommendation by the Office of the Pardon Attorney, an official of the Department of Justice. Since 1977, presidents have received about 600 pardon or clemency petitions a year[2] and have granted around ten percent of these[3], although the percentage of pardons and reprieves granted varies from administration to administration (fewer pardons have been granted since World War II).[4]

that’s not her singing it tho :(

figures

Also from wiki:

On September 8, 1974, President Gerald Ford granted Nixon a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes he may have committed while President

the only exception is if the president is being impeached..

is why it was so forking important to have nancy set the fucking table (taking deep calming breath)

sorry, i worded that inartfully. if boosh is being impeached, he can not use his powers of pardon is my understanding.

Well, I’m not a judge, though I play one at home (when mrs p lets me), but that’s my understanding too.

Neither if he is being rotten tomato’d.

I don’t know why this is bugging me so much, but here’s part of your wiki quote:

The Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites and amnesties.

These are all related to people who have been sentenced.

I want an example of the magic wand scenario where someone who has not been charged or convicted of a crime gets a pardon…

show me your hands, busted

from wiki – the list of persons pardoned

Don’t have one. But this bunch is all about setting the bar beyond depths we thought possible. They may try and ultimately fail (after the bloodiest of fights), but they will try.

This is what Nancy should be singing to chimpy:

Pitchforks and Torches!

~~~Lurking ModNote: Don’t tell us – you’re going pickle-picking at night?~~~

the reality will be this

I prefer Eggplant, better grip.

i see the lurking mod has his funny bone out tonight :)

Pitchforks and Torches!

~~~Lurking ModNote: Don’t tell us – you’re going pickle-picking at night?~~~

bummer. Probably so, but great tune!

~~~Lurking ModNote: Don’t tell us – you’re going pickle-picking at night?~~~

Yeah, hey that’s the ticket!

I’m fadin’ fast. At least I get to sleep in.
goodnight pups.

I lurves me some pickled tomatoes!

nite busted

g’nite busted

Hey y’all, I’m heading off to dream of living in a tent, thanks to Bushco policies. Y’all keep the shiny side up.

I agree that they’ll try. Desperado time for sure. But there wouldn’t be any precedent as far as I can see from looking a Suz’ list of people who have been pardoned. (and I know that’s a short list)

George Bush could pardon Laura Bush? On what grounds? Nobody has accused her of a crime…

Good night, sleepers.

g’nite that guy

I am with you completely. But my imagination has been well and truly rifled by their willingness to front arguments of unimaginable ruthlessness, and they have also managed to nullify Congressional scrutiny.

They own both ends of DC. That’s the challenge. Who will stand up and say stop?

Suz, would you be able to ask Christy to give us a primer on pardons? What if Bush tried to pardon people who hadn’t (yet!!) been charged with crimes? Not a full on article, just perhaps an answer to who can be pardoned and what would happen if Bush decided to wave the wand?

Bugs Bunny spirit: what we’re going to need.

Amazing how long these little shows persist in the memory. I could almost recite along.

Sunday’s very cute Antidote du Jour over at naked capitalism comes [presumably] courtesy of our old friend Evil Parallel Universe —the original EPU’d poster, or should I say poster child. It’s after the links.

that would be a great one for lhp or any of the legal eagles here to answer.

i’ll see if i can find a little birdie to whisper in some ears…

what a cutie… its gotta be the same..there is only one omnipotent EPU

They own both ends of DC. That’s the challenge. Who will stand up and say stop?

You’re right, for sure it’s got to be congress. I’m just wondering if congress is not thinking that it’s better to wait until after the elections at this point for the following reasons:

1. There is not time (the dems weren’t kidding, we had no idea how the justice and executive would work together to stall investigation of anything.)

2. If anyone is charged or convicted, they’re pardoned

3. The whole process is much cleaner and easier with an honest justice department under a democratic president…better late than never

4. The statute on the most important crimes will not be lost, and there is no statute on war crimes.

No idea if any of this is right, just random thoughts.

The military/industrial complex runs out of oil…”a grinding noise that Orwell describes as “of some monstrous machine running without …oops. Part of the Two Minutes of Hate was that noise

Song http://www.google.com/search?h…..tnG=Search

Thanks.

Inky prob http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3IzpazVl-I This Is Marilyn M. singing Happy Birthday Mr. President Where was Arthur Miller?

linky worked :)

I’m just wondering if congress is not thinking that it’s better to wait until after the elections…

That seems a certainty, but it’s what they do after the waiting that is my concern. They don’t have a confidence-inspiring recent history.

But if they start out 2009 by chucking Harry or Nancy or both, I will perk right up.

It sure would look unseemly for them to pardon people who weren’t charged in any crimes yet, but they’ve pulled some pretty wild crap. I hope that I’m wrong and they won’t, but we still need the next administration to actually do something about it. I’m not going to be holding my breath, the Dems seem to look on the Repubs as the cool bad kids that they just want to be get along with.

they sure are pretty brazen with their bull, kevinp – at this point, i really don’t put anything past them

Here’s another b’day song.

tis ringo’s drumming that makes this such a good song

I always thought he was underrated.

And, when we had p pups, I found out that he was the first Mr. Conductor for Thomas the Tank Engine! Followed by George Carlin, and then Alec Baldwin.

any one remember the beatles yellow submarine cartoon on saturday morning tv? all i’m finding in youtube is the feature film

But, you guys. Imagine if President Obama, in his first major speech to the country, told us he was asking Congress to first right the ship and listed what he expected of congress. And that these expectations concerned not only the war and the economy, but also criminal behavior wrt international treaties, political prosecutions, hatch act violations, on and on.

You know, speaking to the American people as though they were adults.

ringo and buck

I remember seeing that. Maybe my baby sister watched that? She also had a beatnik doll with lots of eyeliner and eyelashes. Pulled a string and it would say things like, “groovy, baby”. It would probably be worth a small fortune now if it were in perfect condition!

I’d like that too.

Imagine

Then good on him.
The job of fixing the joint has been made terribly large (on purpose IMO), so as to make it nearly impossible for the DOJ to be able to function in it’s normal capacity while still investigating and prosecuting the bums. It will tie up the government.
Firewall.
But it does need to be done.

Great clip!

loohoo, i would appreciate any congresscritter or prez talking to american’s like we were adults. boosh’s in other words talking down to us set the stage for others to treat us like we are forking stupid kids instead of responsible voters.

been driving me nuts who played the bartender… i have this mental picture of the guy playing a cop on tv but…

addendum:
think Hugh’s list, times ten. Them investigate and prosecute.

That’s the best Youtube I’ve ever seen of Yoko. Really good, thanks kevinp.

Yet the Nixon pardon was not challenged by anyone that had standing. The only challenge was thrown out because the principal was ruled to not have standing, and the court specifically said that it was up to Congress to challenge. It didn’t…so the merits of the issue have never been assessed beforea Court.

It doesn’t mean that what Ford did was constitutional, it means that Congress wussed out. That’s a major difference.

In the most streamlined, cost efficient way!

hmmmm that does add a wrinkle into what i feel is bush’s plan

and we know that congress don’t have the balls to stand up to bush

It will probably have to be special prosecutors working with a law abiding justice department.

and the courts are a problem too

or the neutral and non-partisian hague

Was the movie also a cartoon?

Hey – I’m in.
Detail 1000 of the best criminal investigators and 1000 of the best criminal trial lawyers the DOJ can lay their hands on, and run like Hell.

But there’s this: since the day Chimpy got his first secret opinion from the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel as to the legality of any particular criminal activity, they have considered that the menu from which they could pick. If OLC says it’s legal (think Yoo, Bybee, Goldsmith, etc.), they consider themselves indemnified, and that may be as much as they need to prolong it for 10 years.

yeap, on saturday morning tv – am trying to remember which came first, the tv show or the movie… am only finding movie in utube

would they argue they are the victims of legal malpractice?

Movie came before the cartoon.

would they argue they are the victims of legal malpractice?

:-)

He Resigned…Deeo Throat was too much for him and Hoover

i remember being disappointed they did not sing yellow submarine at the concert at candlestick – not realizing how much of that was studio stuff that would not lend itself to doing live and that there were other songs that were best done live.

but found the movie and cartoons the perfect foil for their all their tunes – beat MTV by how many decades?

Right, we were discussing the pardon and if he was already under impeachment proceedings or under indictment.

Oh yes there is…they can be impeached. HRC doesn’t want that and she is the Big Dog on the porch as Nancy would be First Pres.Just Sayin peckin order in the DLC Party

Well, Gonzo was the lawyer, right?

No Suzanne, Congress CAN challenge the pardons.

They (and possibly the following President) do have standing according to the one Court to rule on the Nixon case. They threw out the challenge, not because they adjudged it “Constitutional” (if that had been true the petitioner could have appealed and headed up to the Supremes. Instead they stated that the challenger didn’t have standing.

There are two issues that arise that haven’t been determined. Can a President issue pardons for “any and all crimes committed in office” whether these are enunciated or not, charged or not. In other words, can a President issue a “license to kill” or violate the same Constitution that provides him with his power. Can the President, who swears an oath to defend the Constitution freely destroy that obligation? If so then the Constitution has no meaning. The Executive can do any crime, and absolve itself.

Second, can a President execute a pardon for a crime that he himself is directly involved in. There may be, in fact, State cases that actually have been issued regarding Gubernatorial pardons on this very matter. But certainly there is reference to such an issue in the Federalist papers #69, that refers to the abuses of King John II in pardoning his own agents who committed crimes under his secret authority.

Certainly such a challenge is possible…we don’t know what outcome would occur in the current Supreme Court.

Then there is impeachment. Conviction under the current Senate is unlikely, though not impossible provided the evidence is overwhelming (but the Media as currently constituted would make it an uphill battle). If there is a substantial Democratic victory this Fall, especially in the Senate, a post-tenure Impeachment is legitimate. This would prevent any of those pardoned from receiving “future or present office or grant of honor, profit or trust under the United States”. At the very least the impeached/convicted individuals could never return to government service, receive or lobby for contracts, receive Federal grants, receive Secret Service protection, keep their pensions/health care, use any title or position of office (or the regalia thereof).

No Presidential Library, no Speaking Tours using “President of the United States” unless accompanied by the preface ” the only impeached and convicted”..etc.

Most importantly, the ability to prevent investigators or researchers from examining the Presidential or Vice-Presidential records would be dissolved.

Yup. Yellow Submarine wasn’t one of my favorites. It came out shortly before the White Album, which came out at about the same time as the Doors and Jimi Hendrix and Cream and Buffalo Springfield…

It was such rapid motion, in my memory, that Yellow Submarine seemed sort of scripted and less “enlightened”!

i was thinking of the opiniona by yoo and bybee – the legal opinions that the prez had the power and the geneva conventions did not apply.

but yeah, any gonzo opinion or other legal opinion outta doj or the office of the white house counsel. if they relied on bad legal advise, would they have a defense that they were the victims of legal malpractice.

They can challenge, c’ape, but would this congress do so? is there a statute of limitations on how long a pardon is challengeable by congress? does it have to be committed during its term or can a new congress act on pardons issued during the term of a previous congress?

I always thought that Yellow Submarine was sort of a bone thrown to Ringo, who to that point had never been credited with a “writing credit”. It may have also been scripted to form a basis for the Peter Max animated film collaboration…note that the song was only on the orchestral George Martin soundtrack to the film. It wasn’t on a real Beatles album.

Most importantly, the ability to prevent investigators or researchers from examining the Presidential or Vice-Presidential records would be dissolved.

Thanks, cinnamonape. Seems as though the problem, though, is that the records have been pretty much destroyed. Hope those straight A students kept their hard copies!

My best guess – all opinions by OLC, “granting” the Executive Branch extra-legal authorities, would become the Executive’s reliance of legality. “Hey, my lawyers told me this was legal (Constitutional).”
Which leaves us exactly where? No idea.

Would the current (Repub dominated) courts consider the Ford pardon of Nixon without congressional challenge as precedent?

Suzanne, we’re talking new law here. I would imagine that the Statute of limitation would be not on the pardon, but that would relate to the SOL on the underlying charges that might arise. If the “universal” pardon is voided…then a future DOJ can charge the individuals with any crimes they discover as long as the SOL hasn’t voided yet. In addition, since there hasn’t been a prosecution there is absolutely no “double jeopardy” issue involved.

no matter how egregious the opinion it can be used as a defense? even if supplied by a lawyer who was paid to write what they wanted his opinion to be?

Yes, I think you’re right. Yellow Submarine was more about the Peter Max hippie art than the music.

Hey, how about some Route 66 to get the music going again?

an alternate route

Ah, now you’re talking about a court deciding the egregiousness of a particular opinion by OLC, and (or) the Executive Branch’s reliance on it. Add another year.

Maybe Congress is just not asking opinions of this legal counsel in the justice department, because they know they’ll get bullshit? Under the thinking that they’ll just wait till next year and ask a qualified OLC?

Actually, by order of the Unitary Executive, the opinions (or most of them anyway) of the Office of legal Counsel are… wait for it – secret.

And from Crossroads Festival

loved that video – used it over at my place recently

Precedent relates to court decisions, not whether someone opts to challenge a law.

Of course, the current court might decide anything. After all they decided against Bush vs. Texas in the recent situation. I actually disagreed with that decision (as they also apparently decided against the Right of Congress to establish treaties that are the law of the land).

I’m not going to argue against a bunch of people who say that Congress will never act, and the Courts and the White House have it all set up so that Bush can do anything. It’s a position of sheer nihilism and hopelessness. I personally don’r see the point except to make people think challenging the Administration is useless. It’s almost like this is a “concern troll” designed to make people give up.

This is the official Beatles cartoon website. They have video clips, but I don’t know if they are of the cartoons you are thinking of.

I think I’ll use that logic next time I face the court. My lawyer gave me bad advice…ergo I’m not guilty of a crime.

Sorry, I wasn’t trying to argue anything. It was purely an information request. I want the law enforced same as you.

This what ex Governor of AL Seigelman listened to in the AL Joint…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2lptmWZSKo I know why those guys are staring at me…

Shit, I almost forgot. People can be pardoned because at some point in time they may be charged with crimes that are hidden from the prosecutors. Hidden crimes, secret crimes. Bush can wave his wand and pardon all in his kingdom who may be guilty of any secret crimes. Nobody will ever know what these crimes are, but they must be challenged before W’s magical DOJ is out of business in January. After that, the secret is locked in with skulls and bones…

sweet….. thanks smgumby

Read this. It’s Senator Whitehouse’s presentation on the Senate Floor, after managing to get 3 OLC opinions declassified. It is absolutely chilling.

Anything to avoid work!

*laughing* this is my work

Rub it in why don’t you!

:)

Thanks for the music and talk all, I’m off to catch some zzzzzzz…

g’nite

The three parts, in brief, of the OLC opinions Senator Whitehouse details:

1:
An Executive order cannot limit a President. There is no constitutional requirement for a President to issue a new Executive order whenever he wishes to depart from the terms of a previous Executive order. Rather than violate an Executive order, the President has instead modified or waived it.

2:
The President, exercising his constitutional authority under article II, can determine whether an action is a lawful exercise of the President’s authority under article II.

3:
The Department of Justice is bound by the President’s legal determinations.

smgumby, i wasn’t gonna mention that playing in the utubes finding stuff is a major part of what i do

kevin p – g’nite and thanks for the tunes

OMG, I’ve seen that and clips of it several times. It is wonderful!!

He voted the wrong way on something else recently, can’t remember…need zzzz

fork

fork

and let me add fork

Yep. FISA reauthorization WITH telecom immunity. The mind reels.
nite loo hoo

Pixie dust, newtonusr, as EW says!

Night newtonusr. Think about yellow submarines…

night loo hoo! morning to everyone else!

g’nite loohoo

hey selise

hey suz! how did the showing go yesterday?

i’ve not heard any feed back on any of the 3 showings that happened this week. my agent will be making some calls monday i’m sure.

well, at least you are getting showings… (trying to see the cup as half full here).

i just figure i’m never going to be able to afford to move again.

went 3 weeks without a phone call for any – then this week, had 3 showings in 4 days…but i gotta admit, the sleeping in shifts that each caused has left a cranky residual that i’m still working on.

Hi selise. That’s what I’m figuring too. The girls moved out and I’m making that part of the house into a small apartment. I’m freaked about the economy.

hey selise!
part of tonights/this mornings fare is… Chimpy’s Office of Legal Counsel.

Peter Max set and John takes Yoko for a spin lot sa energy Marilyn on Reds

ok pups, time for me to pretend that i am domesticated and clean up the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods so there is no sign of actual human habitation visible for just in case.

thanks for hanging with me tonight, pups. i’ll be peaking in at the lake in between dusting and sweeping and the like.

that’s a great idea. i’ve thought about trying to get a room mate, but i’m so used to living alone (and liking it) that i keep putting it off.

nite suz

that was a brilliant speech by whitehouse.

still blows my mind that he votes for the senate intelligence committee bill and against stripping immunity.

uh oh,… you may get me thinking about doing a few minutes of cleaning before it’s coffee time.

nah.

glad i wasn’t contributing to your delinquency again (laughing)

I love living alone too. People don’t understand it, do they?

i love living alone (as she dusts the computer desk area)

I am out. Good night everyone, and thanks, Suzanne. I go back to work Monday, so this nocturnal life is over…

Really brilliant is getting 3 OLC , opinions declassified and draping them around Chimpy, Ashcroft, and AbuG’s shoulders. HTF did he do that?

When I listen to my married friends chat at work, if something ever comes up about the possibility of being alone again?… most everyone says they would not remarry. Kinda weird, huh? I’m sure it’s the age group of my friends.

(While I am a young and sturdy 23, most of my friends are 55-60)

you.are.a.scream!
nite again loo hoo

Well, if it was a good marriage, I kinda think I would be inclined to let that be my “married experience” if, God forbid, anything happened to my Sooz (Mrs. Gumby.

If it was a bad marriage, I kinda think I would be inclined not to “go there” again…

You bet…perfectly phrased…Nihilist pandering PR that Impeachment is hopeless, it can happen and by the very foundation of our freedom must happen. Would a Black president, a brother, go after Bushco, he better if he wants a second term. The underlying crimes have been crimes against humanity for centuries…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT8UgLlCHVI

Some of them may not welcome racial equality so…just sayin the people that listen to Santana and all kinds of Beatles It is in no-ones favor to be hegemons.

For the record Impeachment is on the table legally. Just because the dems who are abetting Bushco crimes don’t want impeachment it is still a constitutional responsibility to proceed with the impeachment. Impeachment is not about whether there is a conviction anymore than trying a suspected perp is about the notion you have to have a slam dunk conviction.
I am calling bullshit on that…if you want to wear it that is your choise. I strongly recommennd as a retired law enforcement personel you stand down from what I interperet as supporting unconstitutional activities. The constitution was formed to be trump politics. Try reading the Constitution then you will understand especially in the historical framework of tyranny of King George…now President. You argue with me on this you’ll get spanked.
The call for justice should be long and loud. I would like those at the lake to have the intestinal fortitude to say where they stand.

So Long Ago lyrics
by Nanci Griffith

(Nanci Griffith)

My daddy sent me off to Baton Rouge in nineteen-sixty-nine
He said our love was like a forest fire and he’d end it with the miles
So you rode with us to Temple, Texas where I did catch the train
I remember waving back at you through a silted window pane

I said,”Fare thee well true love of mine.”
I said,”Fare thee well, sweet lips of wine”.
And you said,”Fare thee well my Texas rose.”
And then you blew a kiss of innocence as the train began to roll
So long ago

You’d gone off to fight the war when I returned from school
I traded in my innocence when the springtime came to bloom
I married for my family one night I dreamed of you
And you were running from me in the rain down on Congress Avenue

I saw you once in a crowded bar it was Christmas time
I was frightened by the thunder of our hearts in sixty-nine
Because I live my life in whispers now and I choose to live alone
So I slipped back to the Avenue and flipped my collar to the cold

Where did we go?
That long ago?
So long ago

glad i wasn’t contributing to your delinquency again (laughing)

not this morning anyway.

maybe he has his own source at the nsa? a little reverse blackmail for a good cause?

seriously, though, i’ve wondered if his votes for immunity weren’t part of the price he paid. no reason to think that is true, it’s just a question in my mind.

I say if Nancy can’t protect and defend the constitution (hmm, where have I heard that phrase before) then she does not deserve to hold her office.

#2.

but one can also live with friends or other family, or the random room mate. i do think some people are more suited to living alone, and others hate it. different strokes for different folks
.

Of course, the current court might decide anything. After all they decided against Bush vs. Texas in the recent situation. I actually disagreed with that decision (as they also apparently decided against the Right of Congress to establish treaties that are the law of the land).

I’m glad someone else caught that. In ruling against Bush (Bush v. Texas), the SCOTUS overturned a significant part of Article VI of the constitution:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

This ruling diminished the legal power of Senate-ratified treaties, e.g., The Convention Against Torture and the Geneva Conventions.

The Supreme Court ruled that until Congress canonizes treaties in federal law, a president has no power to enforce them.

Good morning, pups. It’s MoDo, Kristof and Rich in the NYT today. MoDo’s column, “Surrender, Already, Dorothy,” says Democrats are trying to sneak up on Hillary Clinton, carry her off the field and stick her in a Saddam spider hole until after the Denver convention. Mr. Kristof says “With a Few More Brains …” our competitiveness as a nation in coming decades will be determined not only by our financial accounts but also by our intellectual accounts. (I guess he’s never seen or read about the Chatham County school system. If it’s anything like the rest of the nation we’re doomed.) Mr. Rich titled his column “Hillary’s St. Patrick’s Day Massacre.” He ask a question: Why would so smart a candidate as Hillary Clinton play political Russian roulette with virtually all the bullet chambers loaded?

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are all ready, and I’ve got French toast made with challah today, with a variety of toppings. I think I’m going to go for the gingered peaches, but there’s also real maple syrup for the purists out there. Have a great day.

Very true, an excellent point. I work nights and sleep many days. On the rare occasion that the house is empty during the day, sleep can be next to impossible.

If only someone would start running up and down the hall so I can get some sleep!!!!

And BigBrother @ 388 – you have inspired me to write Nancy a little note telling her just that!

i wish.

Smgumby’s note to nancy…

I was hopeful that your statement about taking impeachment “off the table” was more about soothing GOP nerves than you thinking you only had to enforce the parts of the constitution you like.

Our President has continued to flaunt international treaties, federal law, and instructed his staff to ignore any attempt by congress to conduct oversight.

After almost 2 years in your position, I am shocked that you continue to ignore this vital issue.

If, after an investigation, a trial is not warranted, so be it. But it is shameful to ignore the process our founding fathers wrote into the constitution to deal with an out of control administration.

Please do your job, or resign and allow someone who will, assume the role of Speaker.

Too bitchy? Dare I press send?

Not a single story about Iraq above the fold on washingtonpost.com.
It never happened.
Besides, it’s Bill Clinton’s fault.

I’m waiting for Krauthammers’ next column,
where he tells us that this is a startegic defeat for al-Sadr.

SEND!

Sent.

Funny how the littlest push is all we need sometimes.

Oh, isn’t this cute as hell. From my inbox just now.

From:postmaster@mail.house.gov
[Add to Address Book]

To:smgumby@xxxx.com
Subject:Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Date:Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:18:38 AM
[View Source]
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov

Good thing hearing the voices of Americans is important to them, huh.

you’d think they would be smart enough not let us know they’re ignoring our email?

I just sent it to her California email. I am printing it out and stopping for stamps on the way home.

SMGUMBY will not be ignored. (or at least he is gonna stamp his feet a bit if he is ignored)

*stomp*

Well, when push comes to shove there’s always snail mail, which probably gets noticed more anyway because it takes longer to get the paper, get the envelope, get the stamp, etc. I think they assume you mean it more if you send snail mail. (Speaking of “Push Comes to Shove,” does anyone else remember seeing Twyla Tharp or Baryshnikov dance that piece choreographed by Tharp? Great stuff…)

Morning to you guysin the States…

…it’s 7:38 PM Sunday night in Hong Kong…

G’mornin!

Good evening, Biodun. How are things going in Hong Kong?

OK…did you have a great time with eCAHN?

..my 19-year-old daughter is with me…she’s on spring break from college in the US, and took this trip with me…and we’re going sight-seeing on a few islands around Hong Kong today…

We had a grand time. I have a couple of pix, and now I have to try to figure out Flickr or something. On the other hand, I may rely on Mr. Marion in Savannah to do something about getting them “postable.” He’s the camera buff. Meeting her felt just like re-connecting with an old friend you haven’t seen in a while.

The bitch of it is, after the 2006 election I put a “Pelosi 2006″ bumper sticker on my freakin’ locker. I was ready to get impeachment of Bush/Cheney outta the way and have a President Pelosi in the White House. Even my own Rep Baird has not disappointed me as much as Nancy has.

It really is enough to make you grind your teeth, isn’t it? I remember the sense of hope when she took the gavel… I hope and pray that we get enough of a shift in Congress after the 2008 elections to have solid majorities, and then maybe something can be done to get someone with some cojones (not necessarily physical ones, ya know…) into her chair. Optimism. It’s about the only thing that keeps me going at this point.

From BBC News (my employer):

Curfew extended in Baghdad…

*grind*

Ooooops missed you then. I’ll return the salutation.

TheOtherWA @ 192

Thanks for the compliment, always appreciated.