Comments on: FDL Book Salon Welcomes David Brock and Paul Waldman

By: neurophius

neurophius — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:49:54 +0000

John McCain:
Worse Than Bush

By: Raven

Raven — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:48:07 +0000

I stand with you Jo. I am really sick of this bullshit, it’s the same thing they tried to pull on Kerry and wrong is wrong. It’s nice to have someone else try to explain this here, and much better than I do. I guess it’s harder for a dumb ass dogface huh?

By: Mommybrain

Mommybrain — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:42:36 +0000

jofish, that was an eloquent rant. You said what I think, but you have the cred of having been in the military and can speak to what is heroic and what is merely doing one’s job.

Huzzah, JoFish!

By: newspaperbrat

newspaperbrat — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:35:31 +0000

Indeed, thank you both for this timely book and for being here today. Just got off the phone with our Borders book store and learned they have only two copies of your book in inventory. Reserved a copy & am on my way.

Was late to your book salon and wanted to learn if you have a book tour planned in California? We’d love to host a book salon and signing here on the Monterey peninsula on the central coast. email: astowittsholliday@sbcglobal.net.

By: JoFish

JoFish — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:28:52 +0000

Not really fair, he damn near died in that accident and watched his squadron-mate get killed when that Zuni hit the A4 next to him. His escape was purely serendipitous. The Forrestal disaster was a neither pretty nor the result of anything other than poor ordinance handling procedures, which were changed after the accident. All the rest of that stuff is pure bullshit and not worthy of spreading.

By: katymine

katymine — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:26:02 +0000

Standing on my chair clapping very loudly and saying Amen…. you nailed it.

By: smartlady

smartlady — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:23:32 +0000

More on the “Maverick”? Google John McCain and the U.S.S. Forrestal disaster, July 20, 1967. He and bush have more than politics in common. Daddy saved JM’s ass too.

http://judicial-inc.biz/82jjoh.....rresta.htm

By: BevW

BevW — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:20:58 +0000

Paul thank you for spending the afteroon at the Lake.

By: JoFish

JoFish — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:17:35 +0000

Okay, here’s the thing about McCain… he’s not a hero for getting shot down, and whatever he did while he was a prisoner while honorable was what he needed to do to survive, which is what’s taught at the SERE schools based in part on what happened to prisoners from WWII, Korea and Vietnam. I met McCain in Jacksonville at NAS Cecil Field when I was an Ensign and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy for someone who had gone through his experiences, not bitter or malevolent (well, then anyhow). I had the chance to meet (and work with) other men who shared McCain’s fate in Hanoi over my succeeding years on active duty and none of them ever made a big deal of their captivity or used it as a cudgel on the heads of anyone they knew/worked with as McCain has done in recent years (oooh, I’m soooo patriotic). I know that I have said this here before, but looking at what he’s done he fares no better than most sitting Senators and perhaps even a bit worse… he survived the Keating Five scandal somehow, and has not given up his love o’lobbyists and their money no matter how he doth protest.

Not to take anything away from the guy, but his capture was accidental, not something he sought out except by virtue of flying over North Vietnam and he shared that risk with every other Vietnam-era aviator that flew those missions. No one ever launched with the intent of getting shot down.

Getting tortured by the Vietnamese aside (and what lesson did that teach him?) thanks for the MCA Act, Senator. His service was no more remarkable than what John Kerry endured as a Brown Water sailor who earned a Silver Star for remarkable courage under direct enemy fire and had the lives of his crew in his hands for the entire time he was Skipper of that boat. Somehow Kerry’s accomplishments were diminshed not because of what he did, but because of his politics much like what happened to another remarkable Democrat who also endured the unendurable, flying and completing all his missions over Germany in WWII as a bomber pilot. Who? George McGovern, someone who to this day the Chickenhawk Wingnuts deride as a pantywaist liberal DFH. I could go on and on with examples like Dan Inouye and Bob Kerrey but no, St. John McVain is a “war hero”, for being a POW. If you couch it in those exact terms, the only two heros repatraited from the Hanoi camps were Admiral James Stockdale and a guy most of you never heard of Doug Hegdahl, an enlisted sailor who was also caputured accidentally.

McCain was a valiant sailor, and a good man. Now he’s a politician using his media-burnished military credentials to try to achieve the power that has eluded him since Karl Rove and Preznit Bunnypants slandered him in 2000. What he’ll do with that power is not a guess, and it scares the hell out of me. We don’t need Jack D. Ripper with his finger on the button.

By: Ann in AZ

Ann in AZ — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:15:10 +0000

Yeah, if you want to go from an income tax to a national sales tax and cut most of the Departments that have Secretaries, like Education, etc., etc., etc. I give him credit that he knows and apparently loves the Constitution, though.