As if China’s genocide in Tibet and complicity in Darfur weren’t reason enough to boycott the Blood Olympics: the Official Hosts selected by the International Olympics Committee for the 2008 Summer Olympics sell human flesh taken from victims of China’s vast, corrupt execution industry. But wait – there’s more. We in the US pay for the anti-rejection drugs taken by Medicare recipients who "visit" China to purchase kidneys from the organ emporium otherwise known as China’s "justice" system.
Now there’s no reason to be surprised by corruption and inhumanity at the highest level of the IOC. The IOC’s president from 1974 to 2001 was Juan Antonio Samaranch.
Samaranch was a prominent fascist during the 37-year bloody dictatorship of General Francisco Franco. [A] picture of Samaranch…doing his favorite right arm exercise was taken in 1974 at a fascist ceremony in Barcelona. The Second World War had ended nearly 30 years earlier but Samaranch loved those Nazi rituals. When this picture was taken he was a vice-president of the IOC. Six years later he became President.
Samaranch was a deserter. He ran away from the Spanish Government Army in 1937 and joined the fascist rebels. After they won the civil war, backed by Hitler and Mussolini, he ingratiated himself with Franco’s daughter Carmen.
In 1956 Samaranch was pictured in his fascist uniform, second from left, at a ceremony commemorating dead Franco fascists. Note the Olympic-style flaming torches in the background. (The Olympic torch relay was invented by Adolf Hitler’s spindoctors for the 1936 Games. Now it belongs to Coca-Cola)
In the 1960s, again wearing his fascist uniform, Samaranch was shaking hands with the dictator. In 1967 he was sworn in at quasi-religious ceremony as Franco’s Sports Minister. The ageing dictator is second from left.
Days later he repeated his loyalty pledge surrounded by fascist goons wearing regulation blue shirts. Samaranch never missed a chance to grovel to Franco and wore his blue shirt (bottom right) at another fascist ceremony in 1974.
The IOC retained a number of prominent German and Italian Nazis in its ranks after World War Two.[snip]
Even today, mentioning Samaranch’s repellent fascist record is taboo at the IOC. Maybe that’s because he appointed 84 of the current 111 members.
(Andrew Jennings: Why Juan Antonio’s right arm is more muscular than his left)
But – after the bribery scandals of the 2002 Salt Lake City Games and Olympic Generalissimo Samarach’s resignation from Imperial office, the IOC’s all cleaned up, right?
Uh sure – and John McCain’s an emotionally stable, superbly informed, incorruptible politician closely followed by the hard-bitten press who travel with him and scrutinize his every move. Want some kidney with that Kool-Aid?
It’s not that Jennings has forgotten about the IOC, about whom he has written three books that stripped away any illusions that the Lords of the Rings have the best interests of athletes and the Games at heart.
Jennings yesterday presented a scathing indictment of the IOC at the University of Toronto entitled "The Olympic Games: Past Their Sell-By Date?" One of the images he used on the screen behind him during the talk was of former IOC president Samaranch performing the fascist salute on July 18, 1974, in Barcelona.
The fact the 2012 Summer Olympics are heading his way frightens Jennings.
OK – so what does this have to with Beijing’s Official Organ Traders? Well, the wholly amoral IOC rented Brand Olympics to the even more amoral kleptocracy that rules China so the latter could wipe away their human rights crimes and tyranny – or at least hide them – under the Five Rings Of The Olympic Kings.
And when you sell human organs, you need a lot of dressings. Of course, offing the donors cuts down considerably on the post-op expenses.
Even in global human rights pariahs like Israel, the UK, and the US, the vast majority of physicians still honor the value said to be derived from the ancient Hippocratic Oath: first do no harm.
And murdering – or maiming – one person to benefit others is a depraved act wholly proscribed by medical ethics. Which is why in Israel:
Senior transplant surgeons in Israel call on citizens to stop traveling to China for transplant surgeries: …more than half of Israeli patients awaiting transplants to go abroad for their transplant surgeries, mostly to China. In a special survey which was to be published this week in the medical journal "Harefua", director of the heart transplant unit at Sheba Medical Center Dr. Jacob Lavee spoke against the transplants performed in China and defined them as "crimes against humanity".
‘Organs removed while prisoner was alive’
The article quoted Dr. Wang Guayoki, a Chinese doctor who escaped China and sought political refuge in the United States. He described before a committee of the House of Representatives how he removed skin and corneas from the bodies of over 100 prisoners who were executed in Chinese prisons.
He explained that the "donors" receive a special injection which prevents their blood from clotting and aids in preserving their organs. The execution team shoots the prisoners in the head while a medical staff stands by in order to remove the organs meant for transplants.
Dr. Guayoki recounted a particularly shocking case where kidneys were removed from a prisoner while he was still alive due to a faulty execution. Other testimonies brought before congress confirmed other such cases.
And the BBC found:
The sale of organs taken from executed prisoners appears to be thriving in China, an undercover investigation by the BBC has found.
Organs from death row inmates are sold to foreigners who need transplants.
One hospital said it could provide a liver at a cost of £50,000 ($94,400), with the chief surgeon confirming an executed prisoner could be the donor.
China’s health ministry did not deny the practice, but said it was reviewing the system and regulations.
‘Present to society’
The BBC’s Rupert Wingfield-Hayes visited No 1 Central Hospital in Tianjin, ostensibly seeking a liver for his sick father.
Officials there told him that a matching liver could be available in three weeks.
One official said that the prisoners volunteered to give their organs as a "present to society".
He said there was currently an organ surplus because of an increase in executions ahead of the 1 October National Day.
And you thought holidays were bad for business, right? Well…not if you celebrate your nation’s "special" days by mass executions of dissidents – and pre-arrange to sell their organs like so many burgers.
Still want a kidney with that Kool-Aid? Or those Olympics? Still want Olympics with those organ harvesters, the Chinese rulers?
Oh – and how does Medicare subsidize China’s trade in kidneys taken from (usually) dead prisoners? Well, thanks to Al Gore, selling organs is against the law in the US – and rightly so:
…the National Organ Transplant Act (NOTA) was passed in 1984, which strictly prohibits the sale of or trafficking in organs for transplantation. In addition, NOTA established the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS), a private, nonprofit organization which was charged with codifying and streamlining transplantation activity in the United States. UNOS serves as a nationwide organizational force, as well as the major repository for data regarding transplantation.
So far, so good. Even better – for one form of organ failure – kidney failure – Medicare picks up the tab (plus 80% of the cost of the antirejection drugs transplant recipients require every day to keep their "alien" organ from being rejected by their bodies’ immune systems).
Ain’t globalization grand?
See you in the streets of San Francisco April 9th for The Great Olympic Torch March Forward.
Bon appetit.



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Why does this not surprise me?
What’s up, Doc?
Hi, Kirk.
Hey Kirk Murphy….
I’m in China right now..well Hong Kong…
Hi folks – if this isn’t a compelling reason to boycott the Blood Olympics and their advertisers, I don’t know what is.
But wait, there’s more:
Britons Warned Over Chinese Organ Transplant Harvesting
London (AFP) Apr 20, 2006
Potential transplant patients in Britain were urged Wednesday to think twice about going to China for their operation due to a real risk that they may be getting the harvested organ of a freshly executed convict.
In a statement, the British Transplantation Society said there was “an accumulating body of evidence” to suggest that organs from executed Chinese prisoners were being removed — without consent — for transplantation.
…it’s 80 F, around 9:10 AM Sunday morning in Hong Kong…
Hey Kirk:
..anything I can do for you or for FDL while I’m here in Hong Kong? I’m part of the BBC News crew to arrive in China in the past four days because of the Tibet crisis…the Olympics is bundled in there somehow, by metonymy…
And North America isn’t immune – so to speak:
Canadians buy organs culled in executions
Tue, 23 May 2006 12:52:11 -0500
Summary:
Transplant clinics in Canada say they are “seeing increasing numbers of patients who paid for kidney transplants in China.” It’s a safe bet that those organs come from one of the thousands of prisoners executed in China each year. It costs upwards of US$75,000 to obtain a kidney transplant in China, and it only takes a few days – one doctor at a Toronto hospital to referred to it as an “assembly line.” [snip]
When the patients return to Canada, they seek post-operative care in Canadian clinics and hospitals. The staff can’t turn them away since that would mean losing the kidney. Most patients receiving these transplants are of Chinese origin, but one Vancouver hospital has seen a “small but significant number of caucasian patients.”
Doctors here are treating people with transplants from Chinese prisoners
Canadian transplant clinics say they are seeing increasing numbers of patients who paid for kidney transplants in China, and are sure those organs were harvested from executed prisoners.
[snip] Another [doctor] talked about the “execution season,” when kidneys are available most promptly.
Doctors in Toronto and Vancouver say they strongly oppose the Chinese system, which has been condemned globally as a gross human rights violation. But they say it is hard to blame desperate Canadian patients who otherwise would have to wait years for a transplant, with death a possibility in the interim.
The clinics here provide post-operative care that is crucial to the success of the transplant. No official statistics are kept, but it would seem that as many as 50 Canadians have obtained Chinese organ transplants in the last couple of years. [snip]
“There’s no question, at the end of the day, there’s a little bit of moral repulsion about all this. The question is, how do you stop it?” said Dr. Jeffrey Zaltzman of St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto.
Chinese are givin goopers ideas.
On topic, China’s Ambassador “checks-in” with SF’s Boy Mayor to be sure everything’s going well for April Ninth:
Biodun, thanks for your offer. I can’t speak for FDL, but I’m good. Anything you can help the BBC do to get out the word about China’s genocide in Tibet will be a Great Good for the planet and the Tibetan people.
How has China aided in the Darfur problem?
The selling of organs is an old story for me, but one that needs to be told.
China has slave labor and we are the consumers of the products produced by slaves essentially.
Capitalism is the new word for slave plantation
Hey, Kirk, looking forward to the protests on April Ninth.
I’m planning my signage. Whaddya think of
Shades of Robin Cook’s book Coma.
Perhaps the most effective thing would be to ask not the attendees to boycott, but rather the athletes themselves. The Olympics have long since long-jumped the shark, they are no more than the final stop on the endorsement gravy train for many athletes. Any athlete with a conscience should give up their fleeting shot at immortality for the good of mankind, and that’s what the Olympics are all about in a way, isn’t it?
Tommie Smith and John Carlos are still remembered today not for selling shoes or athletic gear, but for giving up their hard-won medals for a principal they believed. Is is so hard to ask that others follow in their footsteps?
What should happen is that the world should boycott the olympics and they should stop this nonsense about politicizing everything include jumping, and relays.
China is the sleeping dragon that woke up and may dominate the world very soon.
Hey, east coasters, how was Earth Hour?
Kirk,
Is there a boycott petition to sign that would be sent to the IOC?
Teddy, thanks so much for that – it really is on topic.
The PRC’s arm has grown long, indeed.
But our voices are louder – we’ve forced even His Hair Gel the Boyor to honor the Constitution, not the PRC butchers. We can line SF streets for the Great Torch March Forward – and we will.
His Hair Gel backed down.
Dark. :)
And rather peaceful, except when I forgot to put the toilet seat down and Mrs. Fish…. well you get the idea.
mkegel, there is – and I did not include it in the post. My bad. I’m on dial-up- if anyone can find and post, that would be great. The most effective petition is the one aimed at the Games’ advertisers. Students For Free Tibet may have links – or Team Darfur
(and maary, team darfur will answer your question abput the organ haversting people’s republic and darfur – iin brief, the PRC funds/equips the Sudanese murderreers in Darfur.
Arent’ you all gald I didn’;t become a surgeon withthe se fingers?
Michael Palmer, an MD, covers this topic well in his novel The Fifth Vial. It is quite entertaining, if you like this type of reading.
Well, TSF, it calls to our higher selves.
The Olympics have long since long-jumped the shark, they are no more than the final stop on the endorsement gravy train for many athletes
Actually the history of the modern Olympics has been about anything BUT amateurism. The concept was employed as a way to keep working class people out of the games. My fellow Illini, Avery Brundage was the President of the USOC and a very sketchy dude
I hope the prisoners didn’t drink milk…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..V0uzTVJRIF
This breaking news just in: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
(h/t Chevy Chase)
I was so waiting for that.
So is Zed.
During his tenure as IOC president, Brundage strongly opposed any form of professionalism in the Olympic Games. Gradually, this opinion became less accepted by the sports world and other IOC members. It led to some embarrassing incidents, such as the exclusion of Austrian skier Karl Schranz, who was accused of being a professional, from the 1972 Winter Olympics.
He opposed the restoration of Olympic medals to Native American athlete Jim Thorpe, who had been stripped of them when it was found that he had played professional baseball before taking part in the 1912 Olympic games (where he had beaten Brundage in the pentathlon and decathlon). Despite this, Brundage accepted the “shamateurism” from Eastern bloc countries, in which team members were nominally students, soldiers, or civilians working in a non-sports profession, but in reality were paid by their states to train on a full-time basis. Brundage claimed it was “their way of life.” It was revealed after his death that Brundage had been responsible for notifying the IOC of Thorpes playing professional baseball years before.
Brundage opposed the inclusion of women as Olympic competitors; he insisted they have no role in the Olympic Games beyond the ceremonial or decorative. He was quoted in 1936: “I am fed up to the ears with women as track and field competitors… her charms sink to something less than zero. As swimmers and divers, girls are [as] beautiful and adroit as they are ineffective and unpleasing on the track.” (Quoted from The Ultimate Book of Sports Lists, by Andrew Postman and Larry Stone, 1990; ISBN 0-553-328540-8 )
Glad I could oblige.
Given the post topic and the FDL crowd, I was kind of stunned it hadn’t been said already.
Hiya CT… looks like someone from the 1600 Crew’s FDA must have found a consulting gig in China pre-rethuglican exodus from the beltway.
Raven, thank you for educating us all about Brundage. So many proto-fascists – so little time.
Noooooo!
Hey, watcha doing renting out my backyard, Rev? ;-)
It was egregious’ fault. She’s the one who said something about a road trip to Hawai’i.
Yes!
Although for the billions on the planet who are neither flying to the PRC nor competing, our power in this globalized world is in our wallets, as well as our voices. Hurting the Games’ sponsors will hurt the IOC and serve to “remind” megacorps that snuggling up with the Official Organ Harvesters hurts market share.
Sure, pass the buck, eh? ;-)
hey guy…
i’m being serious here.
i thought illegal immigrants weren’t allowed to get medicare or qualify for private insurance in america. or qualify for prescription benefits.
illegal organs from another country are here illegally. why are they getting illegal care and medications for them?
i don’t get it.
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and i want to reiterate, the original time to oppose and object and protest and boycott and send resounding objections about china hosting the olympics was when they were first being considered as hosts.
before the arenas were built.
it wasn’t done.
now, who are the countries being considered for it now?
if it matters to you, and it’s a ’china’ again being considered, are you gonna wait until it’s too late to change it?
or step in at the beginning of the process with the IOC.
everybody knew it was coming, for years now, and now, waaaaaaay after the decision was made all of a sudden people want to do something. i not saying don’t do something, i’m saying don’t forget the point at which it started, when the seed was planted.
if you want to stop something, you nip it in the bud, not when it’s already at its maturity.
that is my biggest @itch about it.
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whether to have olympics at all is a whole nuther thang. i’ll save my thoughts on that for another day.
Brundage also ensured that Tommie Smith and John Carlos lost their medals I believe, I remember seeing someone (I think it was him interviewed and the dude was almost incoherent with rage).
cite here
Those two guys are among my own personal heroes.
It’s something that I have been very interested for some time. I love sports and my first career was as an athletic administrator in municipal recreation programs. The hypocrisy of the Olympics is only offset by what I would like to thing COULD be a model for how people and nations interact. Carzy huh?
last thread:
In response to dmac @ 90
I don’t have a retirement fund.
I don’t own any shares in any form, direct or indirect. NADA
reply
yo, chillin up in there?
Just ordered The Fifth Vial, thanks for the rec! You would think I get enough of this stuff at the hospital, but I love these novels.
You are absolutely correct.
I oppose the olympics for multiple reasons – exploitation of labor, commercialism of sports and turning them into a political weapon and a cash cow for corporations. The whole thing stinks.
Yup, and read that “He opposed the restoration of Olympic medals to Native American athlete Jim Thorpe, who had been stripped of them when it was found that he had played professional baseball before taking part in the 1912 Olympic games (where he had beaten Brundage in the pentathlon and decathlon).” A real skunk.
dmac, the problem with proto-fascist institutions is they are immune from democratic pressures – we the public have no voice at the IOC that matters. we can’t pay millions in bribes.
Also, I never buy the idea that I should be silent about heinous despicable violations of human rights – irrespective of where other activists had a failed strategy or no strategy. In my world, silence is assent.
No silence on the Blood Olympics.
I was dying to know what you thought.
A good friend of mine was a competitive cyclist in the 1970s, and was an alternate on the 1980 US Olympic team that didn’t go to Moscow. He agreed with the boycott, but it was a helluva price to pay for him — that was his one shot at the Olympics, and it was gone. Years of training (and the costs thereof), down the tubes because of a war in Afghanistan.
Somehow, asking the athletes not to go strikes me kind of like cheering “You tell ‘em, Martin!” while MLK sat the in Birmingham Jail. Going after the wallets of sponsors, on the other hand, is a way both gathering more attention and striking a firmer blow against the Chinese government.
When an athlete tells Beijing “I’m not coming,” they will nod and get the next alternate. When a multinational corporation withdraws, says “our association with you brings dishonor upon our company,” that will get their attention in a much more dramatic fashion.
another thing–
if you go to another country to get a less expensive boob-job or another surgery cuz your insurance didn’t approve it, you think they’re gonna pay for your after-care?
nope
so why would they pay for after-care for a surgery that would be illegal in this country?
seems there would be a regulation somewhere, i can’t see how the insurance industry hasn’t torn this one apart.
wonder why they haven’t.
Nicely stated, I hope you are ducking. Arm chair QB’S have great arms.
yeah, brother…i’ll be back stateside on Wednesday and will be on good behavior at FDL, with the tail between ma legs…Jane and I have declared a truce…the whole dustup was unnecessary…and partly ma fault..i didn’t observe FDL regulations about front-posters…I’ve always been independent…*G*…
Thanks peterr – a good friend of mine was on the US Water Polo team that didn’t go to Moscow because of Carter’s boycott.
I’ve never understood the idea that an international event with participants organized according to countries with medal counts by nation isn’t intrinsically political.
After twenty years in the pulpit, let’s just say I have a certain amount of experience at ducking.
I’m sure they’re quietly denying many claims as we speak
yeah, i’d rather find a way for me to protest… otherwise it feels like asking the athletes to do my job for me. but that’s just my first take, i really hadn’t given it much thought.
Kirk, Will SF still make Teddy keep his Bong Hits sign in a First Amendment pen?
Good post.
Some people say that Olympic boycotts “don’t do any good” and that ours in 1980 was “ineffective.” That may well be. Probably is. As far as changing behavior or yielding tangible reults. But also besides the point as far as I’m concerned. It’s just the right thing to do. Period. ’nuff said.
Well, I also think the idea that the Olympics is some kind of gravy train for endorsements is pretty far fetched.
I’m guessing the insurance companies would rather pay for the aftercare than the surgeries and aftercare both.
LOL. i bet.
nuff said, does that mean there is a new post?
But I bet they would rather pay for neither
For the Lake that’s a pretty amazing admission!
dmac, the Medicare regualtions on renal failure were written back in the depths of Congressional time before hatred of immigrants once again became a staff by which aspiring pols could beat off rivals. At the time the regs were written, patients with renal failure faced dialysis or death – and (apocryphal lore has it) a Congressional staffer knew someone with renal disease – hence the blanket coverage.
Fortuntely, the relevant Federal law extends this life saving treatment to a variety of folks in our borders – and any ethical physician would say tht’s good thing. If someone covered by Medicare for renal failure gets a transplant, Medicare covers their anti-rejection drugs.
The logical fix would be to provide coverage for the meds only to recipients who recieved organs from ethical sources – which is just what the Israeli trsanplant surgeons (and others) call for.
From the perspective of medical ethics, recent US leaders – who except for Nighthorse Campblee were virtually all descended from immigrants – opportunistic bow to xenophobia by competing to deny health care to all within our borders is it self a human rights crime.
Uh, Hello!!!! Mary Lou Retton????
;~{
which one? that i haven’t given it much thought?
Yea!
dunno whether our (well Jimmeh’s) boycott was ineffective or not, but the then Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan was the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union, and of the cold war…
..so am not sure what history “lessons” you can draw from the current situation…honestly…the beginning of the end of the “Chinese Century” to come? ..not so sure ’bout that…
Here’s a lovely article about Chinese drug making.
Uh hello back. There are certainly individuals who have cashed in but it’s not representative of the vast majority of participants.
Not crazy to me, Raven – most people don’t know the fascists in the IOC – and like fascists everywhere, they’ve taken something wholesoome to cover their own warped objectives.
Yet the power and the appeal of what the athletes bring (when not dopog) is so great – I’d love to see that turned for social good.
I liked it so much better when I was young and naive. But so many of these people are juiced. Some are always ahead of the game and using techniques to cheat that haven’t been detected yet. And tere are some forms of perfortmance enhancement that are allowed. The first Olympuics I remember was 1968 and the USA kicked ass. Probably my favorite ones ever. So naive. I love sports but could do without them this year. i haven’t been watching them as much as i used to. the coverage sucks any more. No more Jim Mccay’s.
PS, I am in now way endorsing the Chinese, in my opinion they should have never been considered.
I wuz beein facetious (sp)
kirk at 49–
dmac, the problem with proto-fascist insitutions is they are immune from democratic pressures – we the public have no voice at the IOC that matters. we can’t pay millins in bribes.
ALso, I never buy the idea that I should be silent about heinous despicable violations of human rights – irresoective of wheterh other activists had a failed strategy or no strategy. IN my world, silence is assent.
No silence on the Blood Olympics.
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we do have a voice when it affects their sponsors, kirk.
and there’s all kinds of sponsors, the commercial on tv ones, the ones that sponsor goods and services to athletes.
i never intimated that i agree with silence on any of this, on any issue, if i did, i sure wouldn’t be here at fdl, and i sure wouldn’t be reading others’ thoughts and expressing mine. * g *
i am just stating that it has always bothered me that noone does anything at the beginning. it has been one of my pet peeves for many many years, it’s an olymics protest thread, so, i’m just saying don’t forget that that is a time to protest too.
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and raven at 43–EXACTLY
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sander0-thanks, my feelings about the olympics are so torn. and deeply felt.
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peterr-best man at my wedding (now divorced) was/is an olympic coach.
know a few athletes.
The recent events in Tibet have reminded people once again that the Chinese are mean sons of bitches. It is never too late to speak truth to power.
well, if i only voiced a well thought out opinions, my typing fingers wouldn’t get much exercise. *g*
i think it’s kinda fun to try to figure out what i think while being challenged to see things in different ways by you-all.
Kirk, that ynetnews piece is something else. When any doctor talks about “crimes against humanity,” that’s a big deal. When it’s an Israeli doctor . . .
I’ll be curious to see how that plays out in the Israeli media. I just checked out Ha Aretz and Jerusalem Post, and nothing up there now. Maybe after than medical piece gets published.
Yeah. i thought about that. i think too many pro-boycott people don’t. I’m still in fgavor of it. I’ve been screwed in my life as have we all. Much of the cost of training is picked up by USOC and many of the top atheletes have sponsors.
The commies invented not only juicing but took subverting amateurism to a new level. As Roseanne Roseanna Danna said. . .it’s always something.
Mean doesn’t approach it, Mao and Stalin were every bit as murderous as Hitler.
Didja see Obama today at some forum in PA? He was answering questions. Did a good job in what I saw. Off the top of his head. By himself, too. (Well, I think Casey was standing next to him.)
It’s so dreadfully easy to get these drugs approved, first you buy a congresscritter (preferably of the republican persuasion, but a bush dog will do too) for what is pennies on the dollar and get them to bitch about the intrinsic failures of the “gubmint” that interferes in and over-regulates those oh-so-responsible pharmaceutical manufacturers, then you pressure the adminstration to put wingnut Jesus Freak on the boards and committees of those agencies, who are hardly unwilling to look at the “bigger picture” of being affiliated with those same companies they have been regulating after they are gone from “office”.
Lather, rinse, repeat. Your FDA “non-politicized version” hard at work.
Ya’ll be cool, I gotta see if the Ville can make a run at the Heels in the second half.
Why didn’t you ask? I would never ignore you, Raven. Thanks for caring.
kirk at 66 says in part-”competing to deny health care to all within our borders is it self a human rights crime.”
yes, it is.
Not as long as he shares :)
In all seriousness:
Woo-hoo! The ACLU sprang our streets from Gavin and the PRC’s attempt to pen up our Constitution. SF had to put in writing that we’ll be able to line the streets for the Great Torch March Forward.
Heh. Direct action gets the goods.
True. there was a thing some time back, on TV where they followed some Esat German fermale atheletes 10/20 years aftyer their Olympics. These ladies were getting hairy. Had deep voices. just a mess.
nite raven
Dmac, thanks so much for correcting my comment. I started with explicitly noting just what you poinnt out (that you are no suggestinng we don’t act now – pardon y double negative) and then my suasage finngers seem to have cut it out.
My bad.
You’re my horse if you never win a race.
peas
Great!!!!! Free speech lives but I guess you gotta fight for it. Good work, ‘Frisco. (I’m told you guys out there hate being called ‘Frisco but the NY papers use it all the time.)
You know there’s something so ultimately Orwellian about setting up Free Speech Zones to make the goddamn Chinese feel better, isnt’t there? Fuck.
I’ll take it. Anything for you is invaluable.
LooHoo, thanks for that great example of the costs of “Free” trade – just anouther facet of what Ian was describing.
ON a practicl level, whenver possible I check food and med labels. UNless manufctured/grwon in the US, Canada, or EU, I won’t use the whatever if I have any possible choice. I’m especailly concenred about food imports – blergh.
beerfart–a lot of those eastern bloc athletes were drugged without their knowledge. for years.
Yep.
I compleltely agree with you – suspending our Constitution desecrates the sacrifices of all who died or risked death to defend it.
Suspending the Constution for the Butchers of Beijing pisses on their graves.
But wait, there’s more – The Official Organ Harvesters of the 2008 Olympics are China’s Officials:
so will they provide a new set of lungs gratis to Haile Gebrselassie if he runs the marathon?
A great ironic question, preznit. If there were a way to insulate the athlete from the ethical shitstorm, I’d love to see them publicly suggesting organ transplants as the “price” of risking Beijing’s pollution.
Of course, the messaging is impossible – even an ethical statement that such organs would be refused as crimes agaist humanity would get lost in the sshitstorm thrown at any athlete who dred tell the truth about hte IOC and China.
Fascists and authoritarians have one another’s backs – and all the other organs they can harvest from their rigged trials.
thanks for the olympics thread kirk, one more aspect of it to add to the brain file.
keep on posting them, is a deeply felt, multi-faceted, complicated issue for me.
for many reasons.
it is a subject that can be thoroughly examined from many aspects.
I’m gonna hop upstairs to Siun’s breaking news on Iraq.
Dien-bien-phu is Baghdad spelled backwards. Who could have known? Well, anyone who read Rober Fisk six years ago.
I’ll be back on Sunday for more comments.
And remember – if you don’t have tickets for the Games, you can always boycott the sponsors.
Universal human rights are too important to leave to the megacorps.
Bon appetit
dmac, thanks for being here and sharing your persepctive 9and catching my egregious ommission :)
kirk, since you are a psychiatrist, maybe one day you can do one on the (possible-added that to be gracious-) long term detrimental affects of being an elite ’amatuer’ olympic athlete.
that one i would like to read.
noone ever hears much about that part, as they watch sports.
i might make a comment or two on that thread.
no problemo kirk, we know from whence the other comes, i think.
thanks for all you do, happy kitchen experiments to you!
The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, yesterday became the first world leader to decide not to attend the Olympics in Beijing.
As pressure built for concerted western protests to China over the crackdown in Tibet, EU leaders prepared to discuss the crisis for the first time today, amid a rift over whether to boycott the Olympics.
Me too. Like I said in an early comment, those were the first Olympics i remember and i remember that vividly. it really wasn’t a big deal. It seemed to just fit in to the tumultuous times I was growing up in. i jujsty wiki’d john carlos and he denies he was ever stripped of his medal. didn’t know that. hmmm. learn somethingh new every day.
no. i know. the whole thing is really sad. so many of them are so messed up now later in life.
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Well, thanks to Al Gore, selling organs is against the law in the US – and rightly so…
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This topic always reminds me of that movie Coma. Oh, and if you’ve seen that Monty Python film, the organ donor sketch from The Meaning of Life.
And you know that if the Neocons had their way, they’d love the U.S. to participate and cite organ removal from political prisoners as a exemplary model of “free market” capitalism and a democratic use/sharing of resources. We’ve got some seriously mentally ill people in the Bush administration and appearing on our media. Psych evaluations are needed.
We’ve officially gone through the looking glass where fiction and satire have become reality. Absolutely disgusting.
This updated logo about sums up the China Olympics for me:
http://www.bbdo.co.uk/blog/archives/796
- Tom
After reading your disturbing summary of the use of organs from executed prisoners in China I began to think of another way to make our voices heard. We need to hurt the companies that are enabling the IOC to continue to ignore human rights. I think we should start a movement to boycott all of the NBC coverage of the Olympics and let our voices be heard by the companies that purchase advertising during the Beijing Olympics. It’s not as strong a statement as getting the USOC to boycott the games, but it might be effective in getting the attention of GE, the parent company (and my employer) that profiting from these games is immoral.