Obama's economic speech yesterday was not the usual campaign stump piece but instead a serious policy address, delivered [near] the heart of New York's financial district.
The speech includes an historical overview of the role of government in the economy, beginning with the arguments between Hamilton and Jefferson. It traces the rationale for economic regulation, where it got off the track and what we need to do to fix it. It was an economic analogue to his speech on race in America.
There are parts of this speech that probably won't get much attention from the media, but they should. Here is just the part leading up to Obama's call for regulatory reforms (which McCain's aide claimed he embraces -- see previous post):
. . . the American experiment has worked in large part because we have guided the market's invisible hand with a higher principle. Our free market was never meant to be a free license to take whatever you can get, however you can get it. That is why we have put in place rules of the road to make competition fair, and open, and honest. We have done this not to stifle – but rather to advance prosperity and liberty. As I said at NASDAQ last September: the core of our economic success is the fundamental truth that each American does better when all Americans do better; that the well being of American business, its capital markets, and the American people are aligned.
I think all of us here today would acknowledge that we've lost that sense of shared prosperity.
This loss has not happened by accident. It's because of decisions made in boardrooms, on trading floors and in Washington. Under Republican and Democratic Administrations, we failed to guard against practices that all too often rewarded financial manipulation instead of productivity and sound business practices. We let the special interests put their thumbs on the economic scales. The result has been a distorted market that creates bubbles instead of steady, sustainable growth; a market that favors Wall Street over Main Street, but ends up hurting both.
Nor is this trend new. The concentrations of economic power – and the failures of our political system to protect the American economy from its worst excesses – have been a staple of our past, most famously in the 1920s, when with success we ended up plunging the country into the Great Depression. That is when government stepped in to create a series of regulatory structures – from the FDIC to the Glass-Steagall Act – to serve as a corrective to protect the American people and American business.
The policies of the Bush Administration threw the economy further out of balance. Tax cuts without end for the wealthiest Americans. A trillion dollar war in Iraq that didn't need to be fought, paid for with deficit spending and borrowing from foreign creditors like China. A complete disdain for pay-as-you-go budgeting – coupled with a generally scornful attitude towards oversight and enforcement – allowed far too many to put short-term gain ahead of long term consequences. The American economy was bound to suffer a painful correction, and policymakers found themselves with fewer resources to deal with the consequences.
Today, those consequences are clear. I see them in every corner of our great country, as families face foreclosure and rising costs. I seem them in towns across America, where a credit crisis threatens the ability of students to get loans, and states can't finance infrastructure projects. I see them here in Manhattan, where one of our biggest investment banks had to be bailed out, and the Fed opened its discount window to a host of new institutions with unprecedented implications we have yet to appreciate. When all is said and done, losses will be in the many hundreds of billions. What was bad for Main Street was bad for Wall Street. Pain trickled up.
That is why the principle that I spoke about at NASDAQ is even more urgently true today: in our 21st century economy, there is no dividing line between Main Street and Wall Street. The decisions made in New York's high-rises have consequences for Americans across the country. And whether those Americans can make their house payments; whether they keep their jobs; or spend confidently without falling into debt – that has consequences for the entire market. The future cannot be shaped by the best-connected lobbyists with the best record of raising money for campaigns. This thinking is wrong for the financial sector and it's wrong for our country.
. . .
After months of inaction, the President spoke here in New York and warned against doing too much. His main proposal – extending tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans – is completely divorced from the reality that people are facing around the country. John McCain recently announced his own plan, and it amounts to little more than watching this crisis happen. While this is consistent with Senator McCain's determination to run for George Bush's third term, it won't help families who are suffering, and it won't help lift our economy out of recession. . . .
In his policy addresses, Obama appears to be laying out a coherent, unifying theory of government and a more or less progressive framework for the Democratic platform. (But see Krugman on comparisons with Clinton.) There are echoes of FDR's New Deal. And he's using statements whose clarity and intelligence we haven't seen from any President in decades. He's a teacher, and he could be our next President.
Update: Jared Bernstein at TPM responds to Krugman's Obama/Clinton comparison.
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so? ;-)
Why can’t we just anoint this guy our candidate now?
Or better yet, our new Leader?
Good Morning everyone…. sun coming up in AZ and predict a high of 88 today… going for a cuppa…. anyone need a warm up?
Good morning Scarecrow — Caw, caw!
Senator Webb’s success in Virginia was, beyond his early and public stand against the Iraq invasion, based on persuading people he could help stem the erosion of shared prosperity. He saw the middle class becoming impoverished to a degree not seen since the first depression.
yes, like some hot chocolate,
it sure isn’t 88 here, it’s cold and dreary
am listening to the Cooper Union speech again.
So?!
The closing grafs from Paul Krugman’s column this morning:
It is amazing that anyone runs to be president of the US. It’s like running to be captain of the Titanic although I guess it was a pretty good job before it hit the iceburg. Maybe we’ll get lucky with Obama. He’s intelligent and inclined to unify. What’s more he even seems to be comparatively honest.
I do wish Hillary would go away. I hope the people of Pennsylvania can get around bigotry and decisively defeat her. I fear they may not.
Yeah, I just read Krugman’s article. Hillary is the more progressive of the two. Unfortunately she is using up whatever currency she had with me on fighting it out with Obama. I wish she would take her cues from Gore.
So what does everybody think of Paul Krugman as the new head of the Federal Reserve I bet we could swing a few percentage points with that move, and force McCain to defend Helicopter Ben a classic we win the GOP losses move.
All we have to do is convince Hilary, Obama and Paul.
I added a link to Krugman’s column today, in which he compares the Clinton and Obama proposals with McCain’s. He finds Clintons specifics more appealing, but also makes the connection with FDR’s New Deal.
If folks have seen other serious critiques of the speech, bring ‘em on.
I’m with you there.
OT: Not sure it has been posted here. Forgive me if it has. Over at Dkos, they are saying Leahy is calling for Hilary to withdraw.
He described the situation very well, but did I miss what he would do to correct the situation?
“…except for asking Greenspan to help design further remedies”
Cocktail weenies, anyone?
this is a really nice speech, I love the way he equates regulation with profit
one thing he missed though is the fact that regulation is usually brought on by the bills industry refuses to pay even though they caused the issue in the first place
case in point, I remember flying over new york and cali, you always saw the film of sulpher, then regulations to clean the air and now no film
industry creates issues, refuses to address those issues and we have to regulate to compensate
contrary to the libertarian principle, this regulation IS in fact the market deciding and regulating itself, it is done through us, we create the playing field, we create the rules
they don’t get to make the rules, we do
I’m not sure you and Krugman are right in calling Hillary the more progressive of the two. Obama may be keeping his powder dry. He’s not into taking positions he knows will not carry the day. His life experiences indicate an identification with the lower and middle classes.
We’re not done with the primaries, and there are still two candidates. What I’m picking up is the pattern Obama uses to address major issues and his ability to affect the national debate. Clinton responds with more constructive proposals. This part of the competition is healthy. The rest, not so much.
Leahy to Clinton: withdraw
Interesting to read the speculation about Gore emerging from a brokered convention as the anointed one, presumably with Obama his veeper. Okay, the Time article was written by Joe Klein, so it’s a loopy source.
And then there’s MSNBC’s speculation about an Obama/Bloomberg marriage.
Scarecrow, the concept of a president who can be coherent in and of itself brings me nearly to tears.
at the risk of being told my comment is gibberish, i don’t see what is particularly progressive about obama’s policy proposals. they seem to me to be more in the style of pre-reagan republicans - focus is on growth and market efficiency (not economic justice) along with sane and streamlined regulation for the benefit of both main street and wall street. the one exception is, i think, the call for transparency and openness in financial markets. Depending on how it is implemented (and since lessig is advising, i am hopeful), that could be a truly progressive policy.
mind you, this isn’t necessarily a complaint - after the last 10 years this sounds pretty good to me, and no one advocating a rethinking the rules for incorporation is going to be elected president. but i think calling this a progressive framework is not accurate and worse, it cuts off the discussion of what we want to work towards in the long term.
” A trillion dollar war in Iraq that didn’t need to be fought, paid for with deficit spending and borrowing from foreign creditors like China. A complete disdain for pay-as-you-go budgeting – coupled with a generally scornful attitude towards oversight and enforcement – allowed far too many to put short-term gain ahead of long term consequences.”
Short term gain above longterm consequences or the sure I’m drunk but I feel like drinking even after I puke philosophy of money. Hmm as a former Cokehead I’m sure G.W knows all about indulging past the point of common sense.
Which is fine at a party but its not what I look for in a President’s economic policy.
I think Leahy was already an Obama supporter. If Clinton supporters say, “it’s over,” that would be different.
This is a rather pinched view of democracy and a very unflattering opinion of Pennsylvania.
I think we have the time to let this nomination contest run its course. In fact, I think it is in our colllective best interest that it does. Moreover, I do not believe Pennsylvania or any of the other remaining contests will be decided by bigots.
amen to that.
If the surrogates could be muzzled(toned down) or their comments not blown up into Brittney panties importance the next few months could be so much better.
If BOTH HRC & Obama could campaign against McBush… where they try to convince US which one would be best to crush McBush…. that would cause the MSM have whiplash…
I don’t see how describing this as progressive cuts off any discussion. Have at it.
And what you have to say is never gibberish, even if I say so. :)
Good morning Selise.
a good morning to you too scarecrow.
Is anyone disturbed by this? Upcoming war with Venezuala? I agree with Naomi Klein. It’s time to stop cheerleading both candidates. Neither is a progressive (Although I prefer Clinton’s healthcare plan to Obama’s Harry and Louise). They need to answer to many things. One question: will Obama or Clinton continue ChimpCo’s agressive policy toward Chavez, or will respect the sovereignty of Venezuala? Direct answers needed from either. I think I already know what Mccains answer is.
That’s not gibberish Selise.
About a month ago, I suggested that Clinton and Obama start a joint speaking tour of the remaining primary states. Joint appearances — a dialogue and then let the voters choose. My colleagues didn’t think it would work.
Whoever does the best job of taking down McCain will get my support.
Now quit the circular firing squad and get on with it!
True, but I do believe that there will be concerted pressure put on Hilary to withdraw before the primary gets too close to the convention.
Already, on CBS this morning I noted that they are talking about the long drawn out primary hurting Dems. Once that starts, the pressure will be on.
By the way, I’m not advocating one way or the other at this point. Just pointing out the obvious. Once the networks start saying this is hurting Dems, the pressure will come, IMO.
Please do forgive me for going OT on your post. Gotta run.
I agree Penn should vote. So should Florida and Michigan and the other states. In addition to that, I think Naomi Klein is right in pointing out that this race, could be used to pressure the candidates, to say, disavow Blackwater, etc.
“bomb bomb bomb bomb-bomb Caracas”?
focus is on growth and market efficiency (not economic justice) along with sane and streamlined regulation for the benefit of both main street and wall street. the one exception is, i think, the call for transparency and openness in financial markets.
Transparency and openness in the market would be a big step nobody trusts the banks, housing industry, hedgefund numbers or anybody invested in them big like the Pension funds. I’m not sure a Democratic President can do it unless the system collapses even more, which granted is likely.
But I think you nailed it efficiency is nice but some justice with consequences would convince people and banks to trust each others numbers as real.
Without trust the system collapses. Economic Justice is a small issue we need to explore more if we want to change things in November.
One thing that gives me hope about Obama is that his signature issue while in Illinois was the need to be videotaping police interrogations and confessions. I think that shows a commitment to justice and the little guy that runs deep.
That’s not even funny. I don’t want Chavez to turn into another Allende.
I mean the assassination of Allende part.
ooh, I’m sorry I didn’t mean to be upsetting.
excellent links, thanks.
i think there’s an unconscious feeling that criticism of the dems is somehow helping mccain. in my head, i don’t think this is true… but i understand the emotional tug. imo, it’s something we have to fight against. neither candidate represents us - but that doesn’t mean we can’t support their candidacy. we can (and imo, must) support a candidate while being their harshest critics.
What’re ya thinkin’, Scarecrow? Civilized exchange of ideas? Intra-partisan discussion? Where’s the sensationalism in that?? *g*
man, that is the frigging battle cry for the presidential race no matter who we choose, that is really really good
Actually, I think the political shows on cable would love these events. And the’d be great ads for the Dem party.
Dean weighs in on divisivness et al. An excerpt:
This looks good for Obama. Classic Obama: Great writing and persuasive. He’s got my support. I can see little different between Clinton or McCain. She’s promoting Alan Greenspan as her economic advisor, and she want’s lower middle class people to pay 10 percent of their limited income while her Billionaire supporters pay only maybe a half percent of income for health care. She’s not quite sure what to do with the fact that health care inflation has increased to 17 percent of national income….So who’s she fooling? Give me a break from more Clinton Republicratic BS. I can’t trust her, and I see little difference between her and McCain. Obama on the other hand might be a true Progressive for once.
He’s got a long way to go. The Swiftboaters are sharpening their knives using the Wright minister’s racialist rhetoric and they won’t let conservative blue collar types of Democrats forget it. Archie Bunker still lives esp. in rust belt America. But if Obama can convince that he’s on their side…there could be hope then.
sounds good to me too.
i suspect the only people who would be against the idea are the people associated with either campaign.
I think so, too. But it’s so damn . . . civilized!
Yes except the opportunity for dialogue somehow turns into a pie throwing contest, I wish it weren’t so. There are a lot of questions unanswered. Venezuala. Military contractors. Supreme Court picks. Telcom immunity & basket warrants.
Should we start a list, send them to both campaigns and publish the answers?
fyi - Senator Leahy endorsed Senator Obama on 1/17/08
I looove me some Krugman, but it is definitely wise to remember that at least half the country is scared to death of economic populism.
There will definitely be a big difference between what gets said on the campaign trail and what gets enacted. My problem with Hillary’s proposals are not that they are better or worse (read, they are better in my opinion) but that they will not get enacted because she is a terrible salesperson and while able to convince the base will only provoke the opposition. Ergo, gridlock 2010…
I also believe that Barack is the most amenable to pressure from below since it is his only claim to legitimacy. If we want to push him toward more progressive policies, we push.
Until enough talk on the blogs about McCain impacts the MSM, we need to be the media…. when you talk to anyone….. point out all the great posts here that have brought up just how critical it is to defeat McBush.
Start with the Supreme Court….. not discussing choice but the recent case where they refused to hear the Walmart case wanting THE last dollar of a injured Walmart employee who was brain damaged….
How AZ has received more than $91 BILLION in defense contracts since 2001…. it is high % of our GDP. [trying to find the article]… more war more war more war…
My line with McBush is that he has NO family values…..as a mother of two adopted Korean kids, McBush’s lack of defense of his adopted daughter from racial attacks really cooked it for me. NO ONE messes with my kids…
I’d like to see Hillary do something we would really benefit from, namely replacing Harry “Empty Suit” Reid.
I believe that Eleanore Roosevelt sat for months in Congress to try and get anti lynching legislation passed. She didn’t get it passed, but that doesn’t mean the seeds weren’t sown somehow. It’s better to have someone stand up for something, even if the sales pitch fails, then nothing at all.
I hope you’re right
i agree with you on that as well.
Well if McCain and Supreme Court is an awful thought. In fact, we’re cooked if that came to pass. (I know spit three times on the ground in Chinese fashion.)
I’m not worried Hugo is popular, Columbia Bush’s puppet in the region on the other hand just got diplomatically slapped by Ecuador for that border incursion. I’m sure Boliva, Brazil and maybe Argentina and Peru made some quiet threats too.
In other words we have no credit in the area. We don’t have the troops to occupy the area and without local support in the area neither local or UN troops will step in, remember the plan for Iraq was a quick handoff to other troops as soon as we established stability. (stability Iraq I kill myself laughing sometimes).
I’m sure Bush would love a military coup but after what happened last time I don’t see to many army officers trusting Bush to bail them out if things go wrong.
Bush needs the troops home to take out Hugo but their in Iraq so no worries.
As a Republic, McCain simply sees no reason to practice what he preaches. After all, the Republic Party Platform states that rhetoric is only used for gathering votes and bares no similarity to real behavior.
You don’t think they might try some sort of Chilean option?
What?!
Rational, reasonable and respectful discussion …
Sufferin’ dog hairs!
Adult-level thinking?!!
I musta died and gone to nuance heaven.
Who’da thunk it?
Good morning all!
pinched view is certainly one way of thinking about it but that in itself is a bit ‘pinched’. It could also be in this protracted contest that people are just tired of the bile and want it to end. It stopped being a constructive contest a while ago and at this point, it is painful to witness the blood letting.
great idea!
i’m definitely interested in that. and it seems like jane has access to blogger conference calls with members of clinton’s campaign… so, if the idea takes off and we do our homework, we could ask jane if she’s willing to ask clinton’s team for a response. obama might be more difficult (i get the impression he’s not very keen on the dfh bloggers), but it doesn’t hurt to ask.
It seems to me that to have Senator Leahy advocating for a speedy resolution to any matter is more ironic than rain on your wedding day.
Just saying.
If it is essential that we have a candidate by April 1st, why were primaries scheduled for April, May and June? Why was the damn convention scheduled for August?
The thing is that it is not essential. It is a bunch of hooey that gets repeated over and over by a bunch selfimportant half-wits like Matthews and KO until virtually everyone accepts it as the truth.
In my view both Obama and Clinton are better candidates today than they were a month ago and will be even better by June.
well Scarecrow. . .a little walk back from a link in the last thread about McIdiot’s ‘record’ -
S.256 Bankruptcy Bill - McIdiot - Aye, Obama - Nay, Clinton, No Vote
S.2338 Predatory Lending Consumer Protection Act - McIdiot - No, Obama - No Vote, Clinton - No Vote
S.256 - Truth In Lending, sponsored by Dodd - link says McIdiot refused to sign on as co-sponsor, same can be said of both Dem candidates
facts are pesky things :D
you are a keen observer and very smart pioson….can you imagine appearing as the black FDR….”g”
Thanks. I’m an English major, not a political scientist. But I believe strongly in the power of language, particularly when it’s paired with integrity. We’ve had a heaping heap of diarrhea mouth spouting dangerous wackadoodle nonsense for eight longggggg years. Perception is reality, they say. My perception is that Obama has the wherewithal to comfort this nation (think fireside e-chats) even as he sets about the seriously thankless job of trying to repair it.
Poor Iraq. Did anyone watch the Frontline program Bush’s War?
Interesting about a possible attack upon Chavez. Now, that could be construed as a possible disaster as Bush could use the excuse of 4+dollar a gallon prices of gas (which is mostly profit taking by speculators at that level) as a national emergency and use Directive 51 to annul congressional oversite of his military actions. An October surprise of a new order.
Fox news sure has been drumming up a war against Chavez for a long time.
Email me then. supermui AT lycos DOT com
hey the man married his money….he is filthy rich,and as you know…he got his ,we can go pound sand
I’m killing time before I have to run out the door right now, but I would really like to take Naomi Klein’s advice to heart.
Allende was popular, Mosaddeq was popular…
Brazil threat? No, more diplomatic pressure on all involvd. Hugo isn’t dumb. He knows that the region could be easily destabilized by a war and that there is no more broad support for Him (hugo) as there is for Bush.
Hugo is popular because he manages his economy very well I think we need to steal him to run our economy.
The Bush/MainstreamMedia lies about Hugo are meant to protect America from the idea of poor people getting healthcare at the expense of the rich.
Unlike the boom and bust economies of oil states like Russia, Iran and Texas Hugo is putting money aside for a rainy day. He invests in food for his people and education.
http://www.scribd.com/full/206.....rfi05akoan
It’s sick for Faux News to do this. After all the movies, the literature on Pinochets coup.
voting against the Credit industrie’s special dispensation Bankruptcy act is a major plus for Obama. Clinton held her nose and let it pass.
Not to distract, but I think what’s happening in Basra deserves a post. A Plameology post.
After all, I think we may finally have some serious, if circumstantial, evidence that Cheney himself has committed, not perjury, but actual, outright treason.
He met with Maliki 10 days ago, and now, with no special provocation between Sadr’s people and Maliki’s, Maliki has launched a battle he knows his own forces can’t win.
Almost certainly, he believes he can pull American troops into this battle, and create a Fallujah-like situation, where Sadrists are crushed and driven from the city (after all, that’s the only situation in which Maliki can win the provincial elections that are the publically acknowledge motive for Cheney’s visit.)
Did Cheney scheme with a foreign leader to provoke a battle that American troops would be drawn into? Was this an authorized policy of the president?
Does Maliki perhaps have a recording of the conversation, allowing him to extort Cheney, who now knows that if Maliki falls, the evidence of his treason will be made public?
I know the campaign is all consuming these days, but it’s worth pointing out that returning Iraq to the center of the nation’s conversation will not hurt Obama’s chances in the Fall.
Let’s start talking Iraq. And Cheney. And treason.
What was said in that secret conference in Baghdad?
And nationalize oil companies. Uh Oh, *looking over my shoulder for Neocon spooks.*
We’re almost to $4 gas right now without attacking Chavez. Mission Accomplished!
hehehe, I jumped in without a greeting *blush*
bom dia, pups
They failed once in a coup attempt, so what happened to the army officers involved? I’m guessing that after that Bush will find it a lot harder to get Volunteers for the next one!
unfortunately yes…seems colon powell was the onl one who could have derailed the neoCONS
The excerpts are beautiful use of the English language and an accurate description of reality. One thing for sure, Barack Obama he is not a member of the “Greed is Good” cult spewing lies and propaganda.
anyone remember his offer after Katrina?
But if they pass money off to army officers?
Next Stop,
I am also highly suspicious of what the ulterior motive of the recent Cheney Tour of Death through the Middle East.
I still have grave fears that this is the pretext to further regional escalation.
Wherever these Bush and Cheney go death and destruction follow.
-G
Oh, if that were the case . . .
depose Chavez ??? really, with what army ? we couldn’t invade Phoenix if we wanted to
Caw, Caw Scarecrow! I’d like to commend you for the post, but I feel like I should commend Obama instead, since quite a bit of it was his. But I thank you for spotlighting it here.
I understand that Obama is advocating for a bill supported (sponsored? authored?) by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. (How can that be, since one is a Representative in the House and the other a Senator?) Does anyone know Ian’s take on that? Or is there more to Obama’s position and what is Ian’s take on that? How does Ian’s philosophy differ from Krugman’s? Any ideas, anyone? Because I’m still puzzled. (Boy, nothing like revealing my ignorance in one fell swoop!)
not sure if Hugo is doing that well. in Fact my latin friends from the region aren’t too happy with him at the moment. Whether they are influenced by propaganda or not is another question but there has been serious problems with small business not getting enough produce and such for ordinary people to buy and a serious crime epidemic (perhaps imported from Colombia as Colombia is being hard on the criminals by extralegal means and there is a porous border between the two). Hugo’s still popular but he needs to at least address lower middle class interests in crime prevention and goods and services. (As in Chile of Allende, the US isn’t always the only problem although I am sure the CIA is doing things to worsen the situation…but Hugo could use a little advice at times).
I take Krugman’s point on the relative merits of the candidate’s proposals. But we’ve had an administration that for eight years (and Republicans since Reagan) that have done everything they can to undermine some very basic principles about the role/responsibilities of government in the economy. And it’s hurt the country in countless ways.
I singled out this portion of Obama’s speech because it’s a direct refutation of what we’ve heard and because this view needs to be resurrected and brought back into the public discourse. It seems basic to me, but it’s not cw in our media.
Once that’s done, if this view of government leads to adopting Clinton’s proposals over Obama’s (where they differ) because they’re better, or adopting even better proposals, that’s fine with me. But first we have to create the public framework in which considering these ideas is acceptable and not dismissed out of hand. That’s the value of the speech, IMO.
OT: This was news to me:
Ex. Governor Seligman to be released!
Greg,
I agree. If Cheney has provoked a consumating battle, the Fallujah Strategy, then Sadrists won’t be able to flee to other cities. They’ll have to flee to Iran, which will continue that polarization.
And Basra’s position at the heart of Iraq’s oil economy seems to provide the motive.
What did Cheney say in Baghdad? We need to know. What did Cheney really say in Baghdad?
It was interesting to me that Frontline actually said Powell, Tenet and Rumsfeld were fired, and not resigning to spend time with children.
It was also interesting that they said that horrible bombing of the Shiite mosque was done by Al Quaeda to spur civil war. Now Al Quaeda has never been friendly to Shiites, but I wonder what evidence supports that claim..
The thing that alarmed me was Cheney’s posterior motive to Americans and the World.
I’ve come to be a strong Obama supporter and believe Clinton’s continued campaign is distructive to the Democratic Party and chances of Democratic victories in November. I believe her health plan and economic recovery plan were slightly better than his. However, I believe both Democratic candidates philosophically believe in promoting the common good, do not believe the nation is made better or stronger by the concentration of wealth in the hands of a [few] and increasing disparity between the haves and have-nots. Moreover, I believe both are pragmatists, rather than ideologues, and will use their intelligence to experiment, change, adapt as necessary, rather than continously try to fit square pegs into round holes. I don’t know if we can repair the damage of the last 7 years, but I think we only have a chance with Democrats.
surrogates. Like in Chile.
Just remember that Sheriff Joe has his own tank…. Phoenix really might be a lot harder than Baghdad…