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	<title>Comments on: As Warren G. Harding looks down from his higher historical ranking&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/28/as-warren-g-harding-looks-down-from-his-higher-historical-ranking/#comment-1363658</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hard refresh, biodun. It is &lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/28/late-late-nite-fdl-politician-song/#comment-1363555&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;right here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard refresh, biodun. It is <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/28/late-late-nite-fdl-politician-song/#comment-1363555" rel="nofollow">right here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: jacqrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacqrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, Raven. The gearshift knob alone is worth it!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congrats.  Must be a purty sight.  In a former life I spent a lot of time in an online text-based roleplaying game.  Supposed to be ancient greece, with a modern twist, like Xena:WP.  ANywAY, I got a ‘tat’ on my shoulder, a mix of Artemis and Our Lady of Guadalupe…  she had the bow and arrows, but had that red, yellow, green splash border going all the way around.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since this thread is so old, I hope you dont mind my OT share.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Raven. The gearshift knob alone is worth it!</p>
<p>Congrats.  Must be a purty sight.  In a former life I spent a lot of time in an online text-based roleplaying game.  Supposed to be ancient greece, with a modern twist, like Xena:WP.  ANywAY, I got a ‘tat’ on my shoulder, a mix of Artemis and Our Lady of Guadalupe…  she had the bow and arrows, but had that red, yellow, green splash border going all the way around.  </p>
<p>Since this thread is so old, I hope you dont mind my OT share.</p>
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		<title>By: RickinSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RickinSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From what I’ve read about Harding, he was kindly man but an incompetent president.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nothing about W suggests kindliness to me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I’ve read about Harding, he was kindly man but an incompetent president.</p>
<p>Nothing about W suggests kindliness to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Praedor</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/28/as-warren-g-harding-looks-down-from-his-higher-historical-ranking/#comment-1362087</link>
		<dc:creator>Praedor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sweet!  This means we can expect another crying fit from the Cryptkeeper (Carville) about what a traitor Judas monster liar bastard Casey is.  More Carville!  &lt;i&gt;Love&lt;/i&gt; that freakishly ugly DLC troll/Cryptkeeper!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet!  This means we can expect another crying fit from the Cryptkeeper (Carville) about what a traitor Judas monster liar bastard Casey is.  More Carville!  <i>Love</i> that freakishly ugly DLC troll/Cryptkeeper!</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so</p>
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		<title>By: Smgumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smgumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;HEY!  Proof, Zed ain’t dead!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/28/mccain-gets-remedial-economics-101-lesson/#comment-1362055&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Check it out!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY!  Proof, Zed ain’t dead!</p>
<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/28/mccain-gets-remedial-economics-101-lesson/#comment-1362055" rel="nofollow">Check it out!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s actually a pretty silly video but thanks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s actually a pretty silly video but thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lost mine to overheating problem on I-40 @ ludlow ca. .. ’bout ‘72 .. probably not .. it was an auto .. my all time fav. GM car was a ‘66 toronado .. when i could keep front lugs on it .. lol&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lost mine to overheating problem on I-40 @ ludlow ca. .. ’bout ‘72 .. probably not .. it was an auto .. my all time fav. GM car was a ‘66 toronado .. when i could keep front lugs on it .. lol</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Raven -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;love to hear the steel belts hummin’ on the asphalt&lt;/em&gt; . . . a Cassady quote to boot - and I love flat black - thx&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven -</p>
<p><em>love to hear the steel belts hummin’ on the asphalt</em> . . . a Cassady quote to boot &#8211; and I love flat black &#8211; thx</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just went over to wheel’s house to see if there are nay developments with seigleman and I see this, this is good but will the rest of media cover?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sadly, no;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A fairly significant article just posted at Slate by Eric Lichtblau on the jaded history of the publication, and withholding of publication for well over a year, of his and Jim Risen’s seminal story on the criminal warrantless wiretapping by the Bush Administration. Some of it we knew, some of it we guessed and some of it is first impression. As a whole however, it is stunning to digest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;For 13 long months, we’d held off on publicizing one of the Bush administration’s biggest secrets. Finally, one afternoon in December 2005, as my editors and I waited anxiously in an elegantly appointed sitting room at the White House, we were again about to let President Bush’s top aides plead their case: why our newspaper shouldn’t let the public know that the president had authorized the National Security Agency, in apparent contravention of federal wiretapping law, to eavesdrop on Americans without court warrants.&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
As the door to the conference room opened, however, a slew of other White House VIPs strolled out to greet us, with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice near the head of the receiving line and White House Counsel Harriet Miers at the back.&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
The risk to national security was incalculable, the White House VIPs said, their voices stern, their faces drawn. “The enemy,” one official warned, “is inside the gates.” The clichés did their work; the message was unmistakable: If the New York Times went ahead and published this story, we would share the blame for the next terrorist attack.&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
That shared skepticism would prove essential in the Times’ decision to run the story about Bush’s NSA wiretapping program. On that December afternoon in the White House, the gathered officials attacked on several fronts. There was never any serious legal debate within the administration about the legality of the program, Bush’s advisers insisted. The Justice Department had always signed off on its legality, as required by the president. The few lawmakers who were briefed on the program never voiced any concerns. From the beginning, there were tight controls in place to guard against abuse. The program would be rendered so ineffective if disclosed that it would have to be shut down immediately.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All these assertions, as my partner Jim Risen and I would learn in our reporting, turned out to be largely untrue.
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just went over to wheel’s house to see if there are nay developments with seigleman and I see this, this is good but will the rest of media cover?</p>
<p>sadly, no;</p>
<blockquote><p>A fairly significant article just posted at Slate by Eric Lichtblau on the jaded history of the publication, and withholding of publication for well over a year, of his and Jim Risen’s seminal story on the criminal warrantless wiretapping by the Bush Administration. Some of it we knew, some of it we guessed and some of it is first impression. As a whole however, it is stunning to digest.</p>
<blockquote><p>For 13 long months, we’d held off on publicizing one of the Bush administration’s biggest secrets. Finally, one afternoon in December 2005, as my editors and I waited anxiously in an elegantly appointed sitting room at the White House, we were again about to let President Bush’s top aides plead their case: why our newspaper shouldn’t let the public know that the president had authorized the National Security Agency, in apparent contravention of federal wiretapping law, to eavesdrop on Americans without court warrants.<br />
…<br />
As the door to the conference room opened, however, a slew of other White House VIPs strolled out to greet us, with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice near the head of the receiving line and White House Counsel Harriet Miers at the back.<br />
…<br />
The risk to national security was incalculable, the White House VIPs said, their voices stern, their faces drawn. “The enemy,” one official warned, “is inside the gates.” The clichés did their work; the message was unmistakable: If the New York Times went ahead and published this story, we would share the blame for the next terrorist attack.<br />
…<br />
That shared skepticism would prove essential in the Times’ decision to run the story about Bush’s NSA wiretapping program. On that December afternoon in the White House, the gathered officials attacked on several fronts. There was never any serious legal debate within the administration about the legality of the program, Bush’s advisers insisted. The Justice Department had always signed off on its legality, as required by the president. The few lawmakers who were briefed on the program never voiced any concerns. From the beginning, there were tight controls in place to guard against abuse. The program would be rendered so ineffective if disclosed that it would have to be shut down immediately.</p>
<p>All these assertions, as my partner Jim Risen and I would learn in our reporting, turned out to be largely untrue.
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