We also need to deal with the McCain Of The Moment. The guy who said one thing six months ago and says nearly its opposite now. Who knows what he’ll say in another six months?
As disturbing as his obvious mental lapses might be, McCain’s bizarre policy flip-flops make Daffy Duck look positively stolid in comparison, especially because they have come in many cases in which he has made himself a national reputation. Things like torture and campaign finance ethics.
And this is especially the case with immigration. The co-author of the Kennedy-McCain Immigration Act — which, comparatively speaking, took a moderate approach to immigration reform — McCain is now saying that he wouldn’t even vote for it today, let alone co-author it:
In a March 24 New York Times online piece, reporter Adam Nagourney stated that aides to Sen. John McCain "are beginning to see a general election upside … to the problems that Mr. McCain’s support of immigration legislation caused him in the primaries." But Nagourney did not report that McCain in fact reacted to those perceived "problems" by abandoning his own comprehensive immigration reform proposal during his campaign for the Republican nomination, saying that he would no longer support it if it came up for a vote in the Senate. McCain now says that "we’ve got to secure the borders first" — a position at odds with his prior assertion that border security could not be disaggregated from other aspects of comprehensive immigration reform without being rendered ineffective. The Times itself reported on McCain’s reversal on immigration in a March 3 article by reporter Elisabeth Bumiller, which stated that McCain has "meandered over the years from position to position on some topics, particularly as he has tried to court the conservatives who have long distrusted him." The article noted in particular that McCain "moved from his original position on immigration" and "went so far at a debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in January to say that if his original proposal came to a vote on the Senate floor, he would not vote for it."
Media Matters further notes that McCain’s utter transience on the issue included "conceding" at one of the presidential debates that he would vote against the bill today (see the video above), when only three days earlier he had said he would sign it into law as president.
In fact, we were witness to this flip-flop on immigration as far back as last November:
John McCain spent months earlier this year arguing that the United States must combine border security efforts with a temporary worker program and an eventual path to citizenship for many illegal immigrants.
Now, the Republican presidential candidate emphasizes securing the borders first. The rest, he says, is still needed but will have to come later.
"I understand why you would call it a, quote, shift," McCain told reporters Saturday after voters questioned him on his position during back-to-back appearances in this early voting state. "I say it is a lesson learned about what the American people’s priorities are. And their priority is to secure the borders."
That’s right: John McCain was for humane, comprehensive immigration reform before he was against it.
When we begin talking about McCain’s positions on issues, we’re going to need to ask: Which McCain are you talking about? The one who was talking a few months or weeks ago? Or the one who’s running for president as a Republican? Or the one who plans to be president next year? Which McCain, which moment?
Unfortunately, I suspect that very few folks in the media will be explaining the difference to us.
Related posts:
- GRITtv Live: Is Immigration Reform Dead?
- Minuteman Killer Co-Hosted Anti-Immigration Event in 2007 Featuring Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson
- McCain Rediscovers His Passion for Screwing Us with Bad Telecom Policy
- Harsh Immigration Provision in Senate Health Care Bill Denounced by Catholic Bishops
- Frank Rich: McCain Was Wrong On Everything. CNN Treats Him As Sage





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so?
So! Breaking news!
Don Siegelman set free on appeal!
MSNBC reporting: Seigelman released!
OT Alabama Sieglgman just got out on appeal just what convinced the judge to piss off Karl?
Somethings simply cannot be understood this side of heaven.
Yowza Dwags!!!
The wingnuts are going nuts!
Siegelman released from jail as case pends appeal. Appellate court orders it over the presiding judge.
Abrams is leading with this we are getting coverage!
Don Siegleman to be set free per court of appeals in Georgia!!! Ya. Now go get the dufus behind it Karl Rove
Fan F*cking Tastic.
Would this have happened without Scott Horton and 60 minutes?
I wonder.
OT: Siegelman freed pending appeal by an Alabama court! This per Dan Abrams show.
This must be one of those activicist” judges the Bushwackers want to remove.
PS link behind Roves name is Scort Horton’s write up of it
Should be a one for one swap
Siegelman foe Rove
apologies to David Neiwert who obviously put time and effort into the post, but the Siegleman case is big and immediate.
Now to read the post.
David, McCain is doing his best to emulate the Mittster… He was against torture before he was for it… He was against Lobbyists’ before he hired ‘em… He was… ;-)
Gee guys, the Siegelman release info has been out since mid-day.
McCain is just saying what his handlers say the people want to hear in order to get elected, and then he is the new Neocon King. Yeah, right.
my guess is that it is one of the judges Bushco appointed who actually beleives in the rule of law.
one of their fuck-ups :)
Amen! Abrams says that the Appelate Court believes there’s a good chance the conviction would be overturned on appeal. Yay!
I don’t think immigration is something to focus on.The occupation and the economy are going to be more relevant this cycle.
Yes, I am confused. Is he against torture first then for it, or was he for it then against it?
Not all of us have been anywhere near the news since mid-day. I just got home from meetings. And it is great news that I’m happy to hear and celebrate.
a Bushco fuck-up. didn’t vet him well enough.
McCain stands for unbridled, desperate ambition for office.
Nothing else.
Hmmm – reminds me of someone else…
Which way is the wind blowing…? ;-)
Siegelman, Spitzer…now they are after the Governor of PR. W said that all he governors need to Repukes….
I’m glad that Siegelman will have a chance now..but who knows.
RevDeb! Celebrate! If I were there I would buy you at least a couple of rounds! It is good that he got sprung and it will be a burr under Bush’s saddle. If he had a saddle.
I’m really beginning to wonder if McSame has the same thing that St. Ronnie had and that’s why he needs his minders—JoeLie and Lindsey at his side at all times. Off the teleprompter he is nothing. You’d be hard pressed to find anything that he is consistent on. Is he really all there?
Windy today out of the west. Typical spring windy day across the Colorado
Plateau.
poured myself a stinger before I turned on the news. So I was well prepared.
Evening Rev – I think we had this discussion last night…
Well have one for me too! *g*
David -
We will hear very little from MSM on McCain’s various immigration positions.
Trustworthy. Regardless of the issues or policies, is McCain trustworthy? No. You can’t be worthy of trust one day and not the next. That defines untrustworthy. A person who is untrustworthy is also treacherous.
The pundits will say nothing or at best feign concern while they are reviewing the next topic to push.
He was against it while it was happening to him, now he’s not so sure.
This is good for a laugh or two…
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…..-treasure/
Even our old war criminals are bailing on Bushco.
5 Ex-Chief Diplomats: Close Guantanamo
Please! I’m eating……
Some treasures should remain buried.
Is it a conversation that can be overdone?
Just asking. Last night I had to teach a class. Not able to spend the time at the Lake that I used to. It’s really hard to keep caught up—so much happening. And most of the important stuff gets covered over by the poo flinging in the dem primary race.
Next thing, I suppose, is that we will be hearing from St. McSame that “a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds”
No, on second thought, that’s too uppity for him.
My humble apologies…! ;-)
McInsane was for it before he was against it.
Are there any firepups attending the Texas District 25 Convention Saturday?My precinct is 3089. Reply and tell me your precinct number. I think Green Warrior is going. Maybe we can have a mini convention.
No, it can’t be emphasized enough. I think more and more of Sen. mcCain’s speeches and “just standing there” and confusion, and other performances should be broadcast as much as possible. Dr. Murphy was on – he made a lot of good points about McCain’s current behaviors. I think a LOT of attention should be paid in the media to this. He is NOT a well man.
Sometimes Graham can get it it right…
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…..from-bush/
McCain seems all confused up on his pandering agenda.
His foreign affairs talk yesterday as a bizarre mix of ultra-Cheneyesque war mongering, and rock solid promise to deliver a third Cheney Bush term on Iraq, mixed in with some idealiatic drivel about more international cooperation. Problem is that it is hard to see how the two could possibly be compatible in any conceivable world full of normal human beings (as opposed to whatever inhabits the Cheney-Bush-McCain foreign policy univers).
How he is flipping on his relatively popular stand on immigration, just as he has the nomination wrapped up. But seems like it will cost him as among independents and not help with the wingnuts (being too little too late, too swift a panderverseal from this summer).
He apparently is also going to do a third Bush term on social security. His team is pumping out ies and BS identical Bush: trust fund doesn’t really exist, immediate crisis based on the idea that the hard earned money paid into the trust fund no longer exists because it is inconvenient for the government to pay it back. Also trying to push the absurd idea everyone has misunerstood the Greenspan reforms for last 25 years, which are now declared to not be reforms at all and to mean nothing at all.
Insane McCain has gone ultra supply side tax cut crazy, but his economic advisors are too honest or too daft to deny that his proposed tax cuts will increase the deficit for shorr and into medium turn.
he and his advisors are insane. Looks like he wants to bring the miracle we brought to Iraq back home to the US, without, one hope the invasion.
When do we start the e-mail, letter writing and phone call truth campaigns to put the corporate media on notice to stop the free ride. They have to tell the truth about the new disastrous insane incoherent and hyper-bogus Insane McCain.
What give hope that is that if the truth about ANY of his bizarre nutso ideas can be communicated to the voting public, that will be enough to damage his chances severely.
If the public knew they would have to sit through another four years of Bush BS on social security, the idea of just having to sit and listen to that dishonest innumerate illiterate garbage again, that would do severe damage to him.
Doc Kirk does think he might be suffering from PTSD… The DSMV-IV does point out many of the traits of PTSD that are very evident in McCain…!
I meant to type above:
“He and his advisors are insane. Looks like he wants to bring the miracle we brought to Iraq back home to the US, without, one hope WITHOUT the invasion.”
But who knows, the way he is going, maybe he will think that invading ourselves will be a popular idea.
He was personally tortured…now, he voted against banning waterboarding.
What a guy!!!
How do you treat PTSD that happened 40 years ago?
That’s the thing, republican voters need to keep being reminded why they don’t like McCain because he is not a true conservative, and is probably as liberal on many of their issues as any of the democratic candidates, thus they should stay home and not vote for him at all. I don’t know how to do this but this thread is a good example of how to start. Possibly a 527 of some sort could be effective if done to look like a republican far right 527. The MSM seems to be doing nothing but help to rally disenchanted republicans around McCain.
How could he not be?
That speech was plagarized too…! Any peep about that from the MSM…? Not a word! 8-(
He does and says what he’s told to.
Raven
Do people know when they have PTSD? Is it treatable?
by whom?
Sometimes it doesn’t surface for years. As my father aged many of his WWII traumas surfaced.
My step-dad who served with the 101st in Nam is still being treated for PTSD…! It’s a life-long affliction, and, the very first step is to acknowledge it…!
I think the senator is suffering from the cumulative effects of PTSD, torture, alcohol, taking too many hits to the head during this boxing days, and goodness knows what else from his cancer treatments. Plus, I don’t think he’s made his health records public, so there is no way to know anything about, for example, if he’s had anything like TIAs or any other events that could be effecting his brain function. As I recall, there was a video out there of his waiting to give a speech and his hands were shaking. That is NOT good.
Actually, I believe Think Progress has an update and it turns out, McCain was re-stating his own words from a speech he had given in ‘95 and if anything, the Admiral from whom folks thought McCain stole the words, plagiarized McCain.
Ummm…I think that he actually said the “glory” thingy in s 1995 speech…I don’t know about the other things he said. Just sayin’.
His handlers..advisors…and maybe even Rove.
Sometimes they do. One of the problems with the VA and treatment is that, upon diagnoses and the ensuing eligibility for benefits there is NO motivation to improve. If you get %100 disability it’s for life.
I love Carlin.
Think Progress on McCain speech
“When we begin talking about McCain’s positions on issues, we’re going to need to ask: Which McCain are you talking about? The one who was talking a few months or weeks ago? Or the one who’s running for president as a Republican? Or the one who plans to be president next year? Which McCain, which moment?
Unfortunately, I suspect that very few folks in the media will be explaining the difference to us.”
______________
IOKIYAR. Really that simple. Nearly all of the MSM have simply become “Court Composers.”
Anyone with a CIB (Combat Infantry Badge) can get, I think, %50 by just walking in the door. I’m not saying it’s not justified. My cousin the jar head is 63 and wakes up screaming all the time.
Heh, At least they’re capable of admitting their mistakes…! *g*
Yeah, it’s like buying a windows 98 dial-up.
Meanwhile WWII vets like my father are having their benefits cut because they had the audacity to live to damn long.
Actually, he was initially given a 30% rating, my Mom fought it for years and finally got it raised to 100%!
O/T – How will he ever manage to get by?
“The MSM seems to be doing nothing but help to rally disenchanted republicans around McCain.”
I think we have to take responsibility to do something ourselves. I think the corporate media will try to support McCain. But, even they will have a very hard time doing that, given how bizarre incoherent and self-contradictory McCain’s actual proposals are.
Another thing that give me hope is that I think recent events have proven that the corporate media will give into viewer pressure. Notice the recent swing in coverage due to pressure they received over very biased Clinton coverage, and the very rapid swing against Obama after the conventional wisdom became that Obama was their darling.
I think organizing a very aggressive McCain truth campaign against biased corporate media coverage will work. I am sure it will not produce good coverage, becaue the corporate media is incapable of that. It will just swing from one stupid viewpoint to another stupid viewpoint.
But a little truth about McCain will go a very long way towards sinking him, if his recent caompaign appearances are any guide.
McCain is our ally too. I noticed during the last GOP primary debates he is too pompous, or stupid, to not tell ridiculous and obivious lies, and sit and moronically badger and bully anyone who disagrees with him in a very unattractive way. Believe me, he will give us the rock solid evidence we need to bash the media when they try to cover for him.
A great thing that we have in our favor is, to repeat, that a little of the true McCain will go a long way in sinking the dude for good in the general election. Need to put huge, repeated and massive public pressure on corporat media to tell just a little of the truth -it will stick, I think.
Good, my buddy fought them for years as well. When he got his %100 he didn’t know what to do with himself for about a year.
It can be so random. My pop is almost 92. He just got a VA disability pension increase. And. they pay 100% of his nursing home cost (he’s had dementia for 6 years; I am now his legal guardian).
Is that based on the new “needs” based deal?
Damn man, hang tough there.
Been there.
I as well.
My Mom took the fight all the way to DC… Sadly, too many Vets can’t do that, and, why the f*ck does VA audit every decision…! 8-(
LOL. on the other hand, my mom is 86 and also in a nursing home. She’s private pay, to the tune of about 80 grand a year. I moved them both here to Vegas last year from Florida.
That’s why I took great pleasure in melting down in the local VA center.Fuckers lost my paperwork in a week. I was just trying to register and, because of my work, I don’t really need it right now. When the drone behind the counter told me he couldn’t find it I went off. There were all these folks sitting there who had to take the bullshit and I know they enjoyed it. People think the get “attacked” here, shit.
Scarey that — with McCain’s love of war in Iraq and Iran, his embrace of Bush policies, his intention to stay in Iraq, and his belief that tax breaks to people and companies at the top of the tax bracket is the way to solve our economic crisis — there are so many Americans who think he would be a good President!
His flip flops and lack of comprehension of what’s going on in the world are an added reason for concern.
No. He’s 85 and has medical needs. The “deal” is there are too many to care for and the system is overwhelmed. Thanks to bush not only will the current vets not recieve adequate care but those who’ve served in the past will be screwed as well.
The thing is, it’s life. There is no way out of being human. There is no escape from suffering. All beings ultimately suffer to some degree. Everything changes. All you can offer is compassion to yourself and every other living thing.
I think the stress of campaigning and having to mentally keep track of all the policy points has put McCain on a fast downhill slide. By the time any debates with the Dem. candidate comes around he will literally meltdown.
Amen, LS. Be kind as you can, and trust that someone will in turn show you kindness when you age and are infirm.
More war crimes under way in Iraq. Wikileaks releases generals memo about deplorable conditions in a jail is Fallujah.
-G
You wouldn’t believe the bullshit I routinely go through with all these assface bureaucrats — Medicare, SS, United Healthcare (pop’s AT&T retirement health plan), Tricare for Life, Allstate, Prudential. The VA has actually been the easiest for me. It took 6 months to get my dad’s transfer auth’ed, but most of the VA peeps were very helpful.
And when he does meltdown the Repugs will be stuck with him and there will be no hiding it.
I went to the VA Tuesday & the Doctor had to take my vitals. I was amazed, not only by his dedication but by the fact that one nurse was working four Doctors.
But these are the exactly the kind of “Entitlements” that will have to be trimmed in order to regain financial balance in teh best interests of the economy. Just watch.
“So?”
- Shooter
I hope they’ll pat McCain down for any devices prior to the debates, considering HoJo won’t be there to correct him…! 8-)
From the note regarding the Fallujah jail:
The note describes “unbelievable overcrowding, total lack of anything approaching even minimal levels of hygiene for human beings, no food, little water, no ventilation,” and says, “There is zero support from the (Iraqi) government for any of the jails in Anbar. No funds, food or medical support has been provided from any ministry.”
Freedom!
-G
You know I kept hearing how much things had improved and when they opened this mini-center close by I thought, WTF may as well register. I’m just a raggedy ass remf nam vet with nothing but show up buttons so I’d be way down on the list anyway but, goddamn. . .
Love you Raven. I hope you’re not so mad at me, because I said something that hurt you in any way…I’m “sure” you weren’t referring to me in any case…I just want you to know that I take everything you say as valid and the truth. Just sayin’
Sorry, I had to say that. Sometimes I meltdown here.
Nah, wse’re cool, ain’t nothin but a thang.
namaste
Noooo… Not a Remf! ;-)
:)
OT: 10% of dems believe Obama is a muslim.
How the fuck does this happen? I mean really. Fuck!
Yup, except now anyone “in country” is a combat vet. I just drove trucks up and down the shitty dirt roads in the delta. Course you’d never know that about 70% of Nam vets were remf’s. Everygoddamnbody was a point man, no slack, no drag, just thousands of dudes side by side on point.
Mr. Magoo vows to fight political corruption.
-G
Maybe it’s,uh, his name. Ya think? If his his name was Ole Olsen what would you think?
What was it recently? 60 Minutes? Where this cat said he was leaning toward Obama, but “had some problems” with the fact that Obama was “is a Muslim” and “doesn’t know the words to the National Anthem.”
Fucker shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Where are the Media getting these numbers on KO that some Hilary and Obama people would rather vote for McCain than the other Dem? I’m guessing many Dems are saying anything to help their person.
But I have yet to meet a Dem who would vote GOP rather than vote for another Dem.
After the MSM whores have been on Obama’s ass about his Christian pastor for almost two fucking weeks, I would NOT expect that people are really that dumb. Unfuckingbelievable.
True, My Dad was a photographer at first for the CG of the 101st until he’d pissed him off, then he was sent to a frontline unit…! Never piss off a General…!
Every once in a while the Moonies-UPI surprises me.
Probably from me.
I believe that is the 10% of the moron Democrats that still say Bush is doing a good job in most polls I see.
I mean just switch fricking parties Zell.
-G
Maybe we should demand he release his medical records.
MOPIC! Ever see 84 Charlie Mopic?
No, but there are those who will stay home if their “candidate” doesn’t get the nomination.
You know the old joke:
What’s the difference between a Fairy Tale and a War Story?
Fairy Tale begins, “Once upon a time…”
War story begins, “No sh*t, there I was…”
“SAN FRANCISCO – Attorney General Michael Mukasey vowed anew Thursday to crack down on crooked
politiciansDemocrats and Democrat public officials, dismissing critics who accuse the Justice Department of letting partisan loyalties interfere with corruption cases…They make that sh*t up.
If they can’t keep the Obama/Clinton “war” going…Jeez they might have to report on the real war….but…nooooooooooo.
DAMN, I wish that had got burned to DVD! 84 Charlie Mopic! Yes!
Can’t say that I have…!
10 minutes til tip off
Your giving the media bogus numbers? Are you trying to give McCain a false sense of confidence and confuse the press his base?
Raven,
As I listen to your understanding, I can’t help but feel that many young people coming back from ‘over there’, many already ‘broken’and deeply scarred, and some like one of my best friends, who do not yet know the extent of the injuries which they have suffered and the consequences they must someday face, will benefit greatly from your deep wisdom. A wisdom rooted in oft-times brutal, genuine experience and compassionate insight.
Our nation, and we its peoples are fortunate indeed to have folks among us like you, with ‘a compass AND a map’ of ‘that’ internal terrain.
Once again, this old war resister salutes you and appreciates you, for all your hackles, but especially for your stalwart courage, humanity and conscience.
It’s good, no name actors, real dude from the herd worked on it. They are filming a “lessons learned” by going on a real LURP. Every little colloquial saying know to man in there. “Let’s DX this whole motherfucker and get outa here”!
I can’t see anybody with a Conscience or a reflection supporting 100 yrs of war McCain by staying home!
Dam bro, one minute I’m about to get banished, the next . . .well all I can say is “it’s all about love”.
Looks like I’m gonna have to watch it streamed on-line. Local TV gonna show the UL-UT game.
BTW, the NY Times had a nice historical overview of WKU basketball today. Lets folks know there’s a little more to the Hilltoppers than this past weekend.
thats a smokescreen to give them an out in not voting for obama……. jus sayin
Gracias.
-G
I want these jokers to release the methodologies for these polls private information yeah right they learned it in Stats class.
Wes Clark lumps Senator “gang of fourteen member” Mary Landreiu in with a few better Democrats in an email today.
Dear *Eureka Springs,
snip
Poor Wes, he had potential.
There are a few who comment on this blog that I’ve read comments from saying if HRC is the candidate they won’t vote.
I’d googled it, it’s available at Amazon, but, he was a 11 Boogaloo that had college experience in photography and was in the right place at the right time, then the wrong place…! *g*
84 Charlie Mopic I haven’t, but I shall! It’s available on Amazon
I’m voting for President Gore.
Well, speaking of conscience. What would the rationale for voting for someone who you truly believe is a reprehensible human being? Supreme court appointments? I am convinced that Hillary will be as war-like as McCain if she gets elected. That’s what my conscience tells me, should I go against it? I dunno, I won’t vote for McCain but I won’t vote for her either. When I came home in 1969 I was 14 months short of my 21st so I could not vote. I take this shit seriously.
Patrick Leahy sent a similar email to his mailing list today so it must have been “Let’s beat the drum for Landrieu” day…
I got an e-mail from Pat Leahy about her also.
My response
Mary Landrieu is not someone I would consider a true democrat.
Ahhh! UnDead UNdead UnDEAD that and trolls GOP trolls in Dem clothing. We must purge the party of teh stupid! We must exorcise them. Wears my belt:)
The stench of death follows Dick Cheney like the whorls of dust follow Pigpen.
-G
My old man was in the assault on Corregidor and I got the Army film of the parachute and beach landings. These dudes used wind up cameras with no sound but the B&W is amazing. They jumped at 400 feet and the photo guys went in with the 1st stick.
Sugar Magnolia
Blossoms Slowly
Hairs all Pretty
And I don’t care
I just noticed the same from Senator Leahy as well. What is wrong with these people? I tried to ask Wes when he was here (FDL) and I have mailed him asking him to explain his support of other gang of fourteen members.. He never replies.
Hilary is that bad? hmm maybe we need a post so we can all get our views out on this instead of sniping. This sniping is counter productive.
Dick.
The way the vill is taking it to em maybe they’ll switch, they did on the first game.
They were just amazing and I remember hearing about these things on the radio back then. I had a cousin who was killed when they stormed the beaches at Normandy.
I ain’t sniping diddly, I’ve held this position for years.
Saw my baby down by the riverside coming up soon for air?
My WAG is that she’s a known and they find that preferable than an unknown.
Paraphrasing McCain: “I liked them spics before I decided that I had to hate them in order to get elected.” Unfortunately this message resonates even among many Democrats.
Been there, done that. We’re all on the same side. Let’s respect how each of us feels about it.
I got that today too. She did nothing for our party than count toward having a majority.
Twain,
If you don’t mind my asking, hope not, what vintage are you?
You know that at D-day they shot all this film and there was a central collection point. Some officer was taking the whole shebang up the ladder to a ship and dropped it. It’s why there is so little actual footage of the landing.
but is she a “known” known, or an “unknown” known?
Then we really need to talk if KO’s numbers are real then we might lose.
Knew she’d have to come up soon for air
…
And , yes Raven, SCOTUS
It’s not the main thing but it’s a big un
I am almost 75 and was 8 years old when WW2 started. I remember so much of it – Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt speaking to the nation, etc. I remember gas and sugar rationing, women had no hose, you couldn’t get tires. Lots of doing without.
Judging by the primary numbers IMO they can’t possibly be believable.
I’m not trying to change your mind I’m for Obama to but are the only my person or nobody voters enough to tip the election? We need to know that and why?
That was my original thought thanks:)
I get that from RezieFrisherwhats his name. I like Obama but I would have voted for any of the other dems as well. I don’t trust her one bit. Here’s the deal. I, in good conscience, couldn’t vote for her but I encourage everyone else to. That work?
I hope, if ever the mood so strikes you, that you might share with us.
I can claim but sixty-one times around the sun, and would truly appreciate your thoughts and insights.
Perspective, like ‘location’ is everything when it comes to understanding.
Wow! I salute you and your youthful, hopeful, and considered sensibilites.
Do you remember oleo, victory gardens, black outs, meat rationing, scrap metal drives…and on and on? My mother worked for the Red Cross and used to write letters back home for wounded GIs. My dad was civil service auditor and traveled to bases in La, Tex, New Mexico. He had a poster in his office that said “Loose lips sink ships”. Our school had bandage wrapping classes.
Oh, Yes. I remember that people didn’t like oleo because it was too white so they put a little yellow button of coloring in it so you could stir it and make it more yellow. I thought that was funny even back then. We had black shades on all the windows. I lived in the country so any light stood out – people didn’t even use flashlights. I also remember movie stars traveling around the country on trains to sell war bonds – one came through my town.
Heh:
http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/…..8204.shtml