(Markos will be on Sam Seder’s show on Air America at 3:15 ET/12:15 PT talking about the FEC complaint against McCain. You can listen here — jh)
Yesterday, Jane went to the FEC to file a complaint against John McCain for campaign finance law violations. If you are interested in signing on to the complaint, you can read it and add your name to the growing list here.
We had great participation in the McCain campaign finance quote contest — with 24 quote entries directly on point. The winner of this contest will receive a copy of John Anderson’s "Follow the Money." I have to say, up front, that I’m leaning toward McCain’s quote from entry number 22:
From bemar: "The purpose of the presidential public financing system is to allow candidates to run competitive races for the presidency without becoming dependent on or obligated to campaign donors. That purpose is undermined when a candidate opts out of the system to raise and spend large amounts of private money for a primary or general election race. Such candidates should not be able to reject public financing and then get the system’s benefits when it suits their tactical advantage. A candidate should have to opt in or out of the system for the whole election."
But that’s just me. It is a really tough call because there are a lot of great ones here. Huge thank you to everyone who participated! We’ll be using these for months to come, I can promise you that.
Which ones do you guys think are best? Give me your top two votes in the comments below, and we’ll take everyone’s opinion into account as we pick the winner! For a man who is brazenly thumbing his nose at the FEC and the campaign finance laws, McCain has sanctimony and gall to spare. Wait until you read these…
1) From moeman: “I always have to do what I know is right … [A]t the end of the day, I hope that I will be respected.”
2) From swag: McCain explaining to Sean Hannity why he pushed McCain-Feingold: “Because I saw in Washington million-dollar checks and hundreds-of-thousands-dollar checks in the form of, quote, “soft money,” that were contributed at the time legislation was being framed or passed. And I saw the influence of special interests. I led the investigation against Abramoff. We ended up with members of Congress in federal prison.”
3) From dosido: A: I don’t believe in public financing because I don’t think my tax dollars should be used to fund a person’s campaign that I philosophically disagree with… I think soft money is the primary evil. I believe that there’s going to come a time when people will say ‘this system is broken.’… It’s now legal in America for a Chinese Army-owned corporation with a subsidiary in the U.S. to give unlimited amounts of money to an American campaign. (Source: Joint interview with Bradley & McCain Dec 16, 1999)
4) From cobernicus: Americans deserve a political finance system that is free from the taint of corruption and the undue influence of special interests.
5) From nonplussed: Q: You’re not popular in the Senate. A: No, because I’ve taken on the iron triangle: special interests, money and legislation, which we’ve been gridlocked by in Washington, DC. We’ve taken the government away from the people. Young people are being turned off in droves. I’ve been involved [with the] lobbying ban, gift ban, line-item veto. I’ve attacked pork barrel spending and wasteful spending, which is now worse than it’s ever been, and I didn’t make a lot of friends, because I point out these spendings. And I’ll fight for reform until the last breath I draw so that we can get the American people back connected with their government. I’m trying to change this party, to bring it into the 21st century as a reform party in the tradition of Theodore Roosevelt.
6) From IrishJim: Q: What about Congressional resistance to Campaign Reform? A: You’re looking at two people who have had this commitment for many, many years. And obviously it doesn’t inspire a broad-based support in some areas, in some places, but I will remain committed until my last breath.
7) From cobernicus: One accomplishment of BCRA is to ensure that serious and intentional violations of the federal election laws result in more than mere “cost of doing business” minor fines, as has been the case recently. I hope that you, too, agree that intentional violations of federal laws designed to protect our democracy from corruption should be vigorously enforced. However, it remains the case that the only persons who can incur criminal penalties are those who “knowingly and willfully” violate the law. 2 U.S.C. 437g (d). As you surely know, BCRA did not change the longstanding requirement that criminal prosecution be reserved only for those who commit a violation knowing that what they are doing is illegal, and proceed nonetheless. Letter to Marc Racicot. March 6, 2003. (emphasis added)
8) From barbara: Mr. President, partisanship has encroached upon nearly every major decision the FEC’s six commissioners make. These partisan standoffs have stopped the FEC from enforcing actions against politicians and special interest groups, even when the FEC’s general counsel has recommended that such enforcement proceed. FEC votes have been politicized to the point where commissioners of both parties have banded together to reject their staff’s enforcement recommendations to serve the special interests of both parties.
9) From nonplussed: Real campaign finance reform will not cure all public cynicism about modern politics. Nor will it completely free politics from influence peddling or the appearance of it. (emphasis added)
10) From angie: ”I’ve taken on the iron triangle: special interests, campaign finance and lobbying,” he said in mid-February. A few weeks earlier, his definition was formulated slightly differently: ”The establishment obviously is in a state of extreme distress, if not panic, because they know I have taken on the iron triangle of money, lobbyists and legislation.” (emphasis added)
11) From JimWhite: The time has come to end the FEC’s stranglehold on our nation’s campaign finance laws and replace it with a real enforcement agency.
12) From JimWhite: I believe the FEC needs to do what is right, which is to ensure that both the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1974 and the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 are properly interpreted and enforced.
13) From rosalind: “Mr. President, with the establishment of this new Federal Election Administration to replace the FEC as a more effective enforcement agency, the campaign finance laws will now finally be taken seriously by candidates, parties, donors, and the public. Once this new agency is set up, the regulated community will comply with campaign finance laws because those laws can no longer be violated without punishment.”
14) From angie: “Some will argue that the First Amendment of the Constitution renders unlawful any restrictions on the right of anyone to raise unlimited amounts of money for political campaigns. Mr. President, which drafter of the Constitution believed or anticipated that the First Amendment would be exercised in political campaigns by the relatively few at the expense of the many?”
15) From dosido: "It’s not a problem with law. It’s a problem with the FEC who will not enforce the law."
16) From dmac: “We have squandered the public trust. We have placed our personal and partisan interest before the national interest, earning the public’s contempt for our poll-driven policies, our phony posturing, the lies we call spin and the damage control we substitute for progress. And we defend a campaign finance system that is nothing less than an elaborate influence-peddling scheme in which both parties conspire to stay in office by selling the country to the highest bidder,” McCain said. Source: CNN AllPolitics Jun 30, 1999
17) From dmac: Q: Some say McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform is an assault on free speech. When you see soft money that’s now banned from going to the parties instead going to these 527s, which are even less accountable than the parties were, can you honestly say that McCain-Feingold is working? A: We’ve strengthened the parties. There’s millions more small donors. We have taken soft money, which was rampant in Washington, out of the game. The 527s are a violation of the 1974 law. The 527s are clearly illegal. It’s not a problem with law. It’s a problem with the FEC who will not enforce the law. So, yeah, we made significant progress, absolutely, and I’m proud of a lot of the results of this. I lived in the environment where a powerful committee chairman would call and say, ”I need a check for seven figures from you, and by the way, your bill is up before my committee next week.” That was routine operation in Washington, and we’re still seeing manifestations of this kind of corruption. Source: Fox News Sunday: 2007 ”Choosing the President” interviews Apr 2, 2007
18) From dmac: Q: Do you support a complete public funding of campaigns? A: I don’t believe in public financing because I don’t think my tax dollars should be used to fund a person’s campaign that I philosophically disagree with… I think soft money is the primary evil. I believe that there’s going to come a time when people will say ‘this system is broken.’… It’s now legal in America for a Chinese Army-owned corporation with a subsidiary in the U.S. to give unlimited amounts of money to an American campaign. Source: Joint interview with Bradley & McCain Dec 16, 1999
19) From JamesJr54: “If you really want to set a new tone here, you’ve got to reduce the overriding influence of the big-money special interests here in Washington,” McCain told CBS’ The Early Show on the day in January 2001 he introduced the bill.
20) From Peterr (via Howie): McCain has repeatedly sought restrictions on lobbyists and campaign donations, saying they create the appearance of corruption. “It is no coincidence that the most influential lobbyists with the greatest access in the nation’s Capitol are also the most prolific political fundraisers,” McCain says on his campaign website.
21) From dmac: Ellen Weintraub, FEC co-chair, argued against changing the laws mid-campaign, for the sake of fairness. But John McCain, the Arizona senator who co-sponsored the 2002 law banning unlimited donations to political parties, condemned the FEC decision as ”legally unsupportable” and a ”travesty”. ”They would have the FEC continue to ignore the central legal question before the FEC what groups qualify under existing law as federal political committees,” said Mr McCain, a Republican.
22) From bemar: The purpose of the presidential public financing system is to allow candidates to run competitive races for the presidency without becoming dependent on or obligated to campaign donors. That purpose is undermined when a candidate opts out of the system to raise and spend large amounts of private money for a primary or general election race. Such candidates should not be able to reject public financing and then get the system’s benefits when it suits their tactical advantage. A candidate should have to opt in or out of the system for the whole election.
23) From dmac: ”Mr McCain has vowed to crack down on them, with ”additional legislation if necessary”, and overhaul the FEC, which he calls ”enablers of violations of the law”. ”
24) From dmac: ”Mr McCain said: ”We think it’s perfectly legal. One of our advisers is a former chairman of the FEC, and we are confident that it was an appropriate thing to do.”
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Mrs P and I added our names earlier today. Thanks Christy.
All of the above…power in numbers. Great work!!
they are all good.
I think the last two are quite the yin and yang, and illustrate well McBush’s flippty-floppity on the issue.
Such a wealth of hypocrisy – how can one choose?
Count me in for a little accountability for all. McCain’s crafting of the very law he is breaking is a testament to the failure of irony to strike a nerve in a candidate for the highest office of the land, that alone is enough to cement my position that he is unfit to serve as President.
Likewise.
Added my name to the letter, thanks for the opportunity to do so. My vote for the best 2 quotes (is that why you left them toward the end, like dessert?) is for 21 & 22. But they all have something to recommend them.
I vote #2
And we need some more of them critters in prison for corruption.
dmac has a McCain fetish no?
Just in case nobody noticed – check Christy’s caption on the picture above: John McCain addresses pork….
heh, Christy, you can fool some of the people most of the time, or somethin’…….
Nice one.
I vote the combination of 23 & 24.
Boxturtle (Though it seems to me we can’t go wrong with any of ‘em)
Hey, did you see the McCain/Feingold interview on CFR with Charlie Rose in the “related videos” at the YouTube of Jane’s FEC filing? Some good quotes in there!
I’m plucked to be a finalist, by the way. Thanks, Christy!
Oh yeah, I’m all over that petition, signed sealed and delivered with a kiss,
my arse.
I liked 7, 22, 23, & 24. What was the source for #22?
I really like #7 from cobernicus. Just what you were looking for, innit?
It will surprise no one htat I vote for #7
Zed!So?!?
Sorry – a bit late….
How many times have I heard ignorance of the law is no excuse, a hundred?
McCain sure as heck wasn’t ignorant of the law.
How can you be so sure? Did you give him a pop-quiz on it?
OT:
Jello jay said:
In the meantime, however, these companies are being sued, which is unfair and unwise. As the operational details of the program remain highly classified, the companies are prevented from defending themselves in court. And if we require them to face a mountain of lawsuits, we risk losing their support in the future.
Can’t telcoms be compelled to provide “taps” by the feds? Can they actually refuse? If the FBI contacts a telco and shows up with a warrant to tap suspect X don’t they have to put the tap on his wire?
Stinky McCain is a scofflaw, a criminal, and a hypocrite. These quotes prove it. Should these quotes ever get the TradMed light of day, America will see that Stinky McCain’s no straightshooter and no maverick.
I vote for 22. It seems particularly appropriate to the circumstances Stinky finds himself in today.
Wouldn’t it be nice if Mr Olbermann found an empty segment today to read them all?
Hypocrisy IS the litmus test for being a politician, along with having a nice sized closet full of problems in your past, add in some blindness to influence peddling and there ya go.
“Warrant? Warrant? We don’t need no stinkin’ warrant…” quoth W and the boys. Thereby hangs the problem.
My tiny violins are playing for the telcos.
hehehe *g*
This is a great action FDLers. I am however concerned about Markos’s involvement. I find his actions re: The Magic Man and Sister Beezlebub unacceptable and am participating in the ’strike’ against dKos.
I will therefore be unable to post on FDL’s actions if Markos is a partner with this site in this. If this is an FDL run show I’ll be happy to ’swarm’ on board.
Jane can let me know with my facebook link.
Thanks.
I agree that criminal prosecution be reserved only for those who commit a violation knowing that what they are doing is illegal, and proceed nonetheless. Yes sir, Mackie, I agree. Huh? What you do there? It doesn’t….doesn’t apply to you? Silly me, when will I ever learn. I think we will contest that notion, nonetheless.
SIGNED petition
I vote for #s 20 & 22.
Something about all them lobbyists and special interest groups that are bad when they support the other person.
22, 23, 24.
#16 and #4
Great collection. Keith?
Where is Feingold these days? The silence is deafening. Did I miss something, again?
22, 23, 24.
Petition signed, thanks to you all.
number 4 – short and to the point.
Where is Feingold these days? The silence is deafening. Did I miss something, again?
Nope. haven’t missed a thing so far as I know.
Russ has gone into a strange radio-silence, as far as I can tell.
I too, am *very* disappointed. I used to, if first, holler “Feingold!!!” at the opening of a thread. I no longer feel any urge to do so.
I never vote for a winner!
Pop quiz?
Yeah, sure that’s what I’d like to do, quiz him.
Oh, gawd, me either!
I like cobernicus’ 4 and bemar’s 22 and thanks to you all for wading through all of McCain’s hypocritic verbiage on the subject.
Please vote for St John in the General
Signed the petition & emailed it around.
I like #6 from Irish Jim, especially the part where McCain vows to remain committed to Campaign Reform until his last breath.
St John’s Warts?
C&L just put up a supporting link for the petition.
does it matter if mccain actually said the words? i think bemar’s #22 was most likely entered into the congressional record without actually being spoken on the senate floor. see yesterday’s thread for a discussion.
What is being called McCain’s first major foreign policy address before the Los Angeles World Affairs Council, he advocated greater cooperation among democratic nations, even when they do not follow American policies. “When we believe international action is necessary, whether military, economic or diplomatic, we will try to persuade our friends that we are right,” he said. “But we, in return, must be willing to be persuaded by them.”
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“He advocated greater cooperation among democratic nations, even when they do not follow American policies.” What kind of foreign policy (for others) is this? They just walk in lock-step with the Cheney/Bush/NeoCon warstate policies? Don’t question, just follow MacBush. Well, how terribly convenient!
sander at 12–”dmac has a McCain fetish no?”
yayah babaaaaay
for a long time now, so long it turned into a passion.
must be love by now.
If he put his name to it, they’re his words.
He has no choice but to move left. The far right wingnuts hate his ass, so the only fertile ground is centrist/independent to supplant “moderate” Goopers.
These are my words!
Nail them to the door!
no objection from me, just wanted to make sure everyone one knew what we though the record looked like.
gee, kinda hard to narrow down to two, and god bless dmac- *s* -but these are my votes:
2) From swag: McCain explaining to Sean Hannity why he pushed McCain-Feingold: “Because I saw in Washington million-dollar checks and hundreds-of-thousands-dollar checks in the form of, quote, “soft money,” that were contributed at the time legislation was being framed or passed. And I saw the influence of special interests. I led the investigation against Abramoff. We ended up with members of Congress in federal prison.”
and
20) From Peterr (via Howie): McCain has repeatedly sought restrictions on lobbyists and campaign donations, saying they create the appearance of corruption. “It is no coincidence that the most influential lobbyists with the greatest access in the nation’s Capitol are also the most prolific political fundraisers,” McCain says on his campaign website.
I disagree.
McCain has labored for the last 8 years to work his way into the good graces of the rightwing, selling out most of his oh-so-maverick positions to embrace theirs. Some aren’t buying it, like Rush and Dobson, but others are. He’s gone out of his way to cozy up to Hagee, and he’s pulled in support from TheoCon favorites Brownback and Huckabee.
He’s showing damn few signs of trying to reach out to the moderates, and probably won’t until after the GOP convention. He wants his own nomination nailed down tight, with a week of cheering from all corners of the GOP, before he tries any serious “moderate” positions.
The key, in my book, will be his choice of a VP. Will he lurch toward the middle to reach the uncommitted and independents, or will he go for the hardcore GOP to get them fired up to turn out in droves? I’m betting it will be the latter.
It was a tough call for my second quote fave, but I’ve got to go w/#1 from moeman, for the ironic possibilities alone.
Number eight, and number twenty-four. But I think that there are four more who are just as good.
McCain is a fountain of crap.
I vote for #22. If it’s in the Congressional Record under his name, he owns it, lock, stock and barrel-o-hypocrisy.
I think Brave New Films could make a whole stack of hay out of this quote juxtaposed with all the similar, if not identical, things that have been said recently demanding accountability from McShameTrain.
JMHO. The whole list is outstanding.
FunnyDiva
Peterr, do you think Condi Rice is a plausible VP candidate for McCain?
Interesting. Maybe so, but the meat of the distribution is in the center, where there’s a lot of disdain for HRC and skepticism about bin al Obama.
O/T- I wonder how Mr “We’re-Winning-in-Iraq-I-Don’t-Care-What-Anyone-Says” is gonna spin the now spiraling out of control civil war, the one where al Maliki’s 72 hour ultimatum to the Madhi may get him an RPG up his ass?
Elliot,
Is there any constituency (outside of the immediate Bush family)that thinks much of Condi?
I’m still in the middle of reading the whole post, having come to the thread a little late. A girl has to do some housework and yardwork sometime, after all! But I did sign the petition to the FEC, and I wanted to share my comment since I am in Senator McCan’ts district:
Should’ve listened when I asked you not to vote for retroactive telecom immunity and some other civil liberties infringements. Should’ve stuck with your objection to torture based on the fact that it’s not about them; it’s about us. Think I won’t fight to keep you from becoming President? Only with my dying breath, if necessary.
i liked all of them-hard to choose, so i analyzed each and every one, yes, sander0, i relished each and every untruth of stutter-brain mccain, my new nickname for him. i’ve ’known’ him so many years, i feel entitled to give him one…….
3 & 18 are the same quote.
”2 swag’s is good- this part— “Because I saw in Washington million-dollar checks and hundreds-of-thousands-dollar checks in the form of, quote, “soft money,” that were contributed at the time legislation was being framed or passed. And I saw the influence of special interests.”
cuz i guess mccain GOT some of those checks. and felt their influence. in a ’warm in the pocket’ kind-of-way.
#7 copernicus–”for those who commit a violation knowing that what they are doing is illegal, and proceed nonetheless.”
i guess if you consult your lawyer(s) and two former FEC chairmen, and go ahead with it, that kinda means you did that.
#22 bemar-”Such candidates should not be able to reject public financing and then get the system’s benefits when it suits their tactical advantage. A candidate should have to opt in or out of the system for the whole election.”
when this was posted, i thought, eureka, that’s kinda what he did, didn’t he? i like this one–but i really like it when combined with —-
#24-ME/dmac- ”We think it’s perfectly legal. One of our advisers is a former chairman of the FEC, and we are confident that it was an appropriate thing to do.”
admitting, yeah, i did that, like a three year old, but then says ’dad said it was ok’…..
cracked me UP! he uses teh word ’appropriate’ a LOT. anyone notice that yet? kinda his ’catch-all’ word, if he’s saying appropriate, he’s lyin’.
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if i can’t vote for me, that’s ok, it was fun doing it, i think they’re all an even tie.
Not really. She doesn’t have much of an appeal or base inside the GOP that she could bring to the ticket, and I don’t see how she helps out McCain in any particular states. Those are the two biggest reasons why a candidate chooses a VP, and I don’t see that she meets either one.
and i did like in #23 when he calls the FEC ”enablers of violations of the law” which if he wins this, i guess they are.
but i’m not voting for that one, just liked it. irony and all.
McCain is a very troubling person as far as foreign policy is concern. He really is a big stick show of force right off the bat kinda guy. He’d get us tangled all over the place… as if we aren’t already.
He’s a hammer and the whole world looks like nails to him. Nail to hit hard. OUCH
McCain’s Rule: “What’s mine is mine, what’s yours is mine.”
snark aside, I’ll be really surprised to see mcstain allowed to pick anyone besides cheney for vp … honestly. I assume cheney is not planning on going away anytime soon.
Your #17 is quite nice as well.
Now, of course, that call comes from Charlie Black as he’s riding on the campaign bus.
(And the fact that McCain made this statement on Fox makes it all the tastier.)
and it is just basically impossible to pick a favorite quote … they’re all awesome ;)
Got to go into a budget meeting now, but 1st wanted to pass along a link to Pat Lang’s take on McCain’s L.A. speech:
Why McCain is the Wrong Man
Read you all later.
Mr 9% favorable? Yeah, that’d be a ticket to the bottom of the Mariannas trench.
McBush will have to pick a VP to suck up to the Religious Right. Huck? Or Newt? Cheney would be a death kiss to the ticket, he’d lose the middle entirely.
Boxturtle (Charles Manson is also available)
I just hope that at the end of the day my name makes it onto the complaint.
Oh yeah, and that i am respected. ;-)
“the first and most basic duty a president has — to protect the lives of the American people,”
_________
Somehow I missed that part of the Oath of Office. My Bad. I thought it said something about protecting and defending that Goddamn Piece of Paper.
OT, but given that there’s a new thread up … I’ll try this in EPU land.
From Froomkin today, he lists people who the chimp-in-chief just pardoned. Who the hell are these people? Big time thug doners?
He’s pardoning people from 1958?
I have to go with 4 and 22.
4 is brief and to the point, and like Christy, I think 22 is just a perfect example of John McCain, Concern Troll Extraordinaire.
I do really like 16 as well though. Talk about an accidental telling of the truth…
I really like #7, since it is a formal letter and not just a statement.
I vote for 4 and 16.
Sorry I meant I vote for 4 and 15.
jane? christy?
i had a question in the mccain/charlie black thread that didn’t get answered—
here’s the comment i posted–
finally, closer to an answer for my question that i asked the other day……
on the link above, called a strongly worded letter-pdf—the fec states the two things that would make it illegal to withdraw from their agreement……
but, another part of the question i have been wondering about, did he state on the loan agreement anything that is a violation of these rules?
the fec letter references two paragraphs from the bank loan agreement. that are in contention.
can’t find it.
does anyone have alink to the bank loan agreement?
He’s pardoning people from 1958?
I’d say follow the money. What are they doing now, who are their relatives, and who are their lawyers?
I think I like #7. Focusing on enforcement is a very good thing, I think.
22’s my baby, but the only difficulty is the context – the force of the “should” is both the purpose of the original system and, more directly, his own (failed) reform proposal that would have mandated acceptance or rejection of public financing for the whole cycle (I think).
This was fun. Thomas is a little unwieldy, but it’s still your friend.