Ann, from what I understand Hillary has been winning the registered democratic vote in most primaries. I am a long-time registered democrat in CA and I just don’t hear the type of anger and hatred posted here (see the preceding comment) expressed by my fellow democrats in my precinct. There is healthy skepticism about Obama’s relative experience, and a lot of irritation with how the mainstream media have piled onto Hillary. I sometimes wonder if the more egregious comments made here are by people who have never associated with the democratic party in the first place.

Well, SueN, I’m glad that you have coping devices such that you can believe whatever you want to believe; we all should. But if “Hillary has been winning the registered democratic vote in most primaries,” as you say, then it seems to me that she would be ahead in the popular vote, and probably also in the delegate count. But she’s not, she’s way behind and she’s been trying to make up for that by throwing poo on the one who is ahead of her. And in so doing, she is openly stating that McCain, who is my Senator and has never stood up for even what he says he believes in, like campaign finance reform or torture, is a better choice than Obama. To me, that is apostacy to the Democratic party! For that, and also for her abandonment of some democratic principals, like freedom of expression, and her vote on the Authority to Use Military Force and her failure to admit that vote was a mistake, I am angry with her. She is a lawyer; how could she essentially vote for a contract that gives a blank check to this President? I am doubly angry when she tries to use race or religion against Obama. Those “as far as I know,” and “there’s no proof that Obama is not a Christian,” comments were unacceptable. I think that’s dirty pool.

Just so you know, I voted for Bill Clinton twice, and I felt that their marital problems, including his infidelity were a matter between them and had no real affect on his governance. I, therefore, felt we had no business prying into these matters to begin with. Furthermore, I thought and I still think he was a good President, did a hell of a job, and could have been a great president if he hadn’t given his own enemies so much ammunition to try to hurt him. But he did, so he was only good not great. I also felt that the left, of which I am one, tried to push him too far to the left during his first term. Around here, that’s heresy, but I still feel it would have made it too hard to govern and the majority of the country was not there yet, so nothing would have gotten accomplished if he tried further than he did to hold out for further left positions. I think that’s why Democrats lost their majority of Congress. Unfortunately, I feel that there are currently way too many blue dog Dems in Congress currently, and the country is there now to go further left, on healthcare for instance. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have some horror story about healthcare.

I also started out this race with “healthy skepticism about Obama’s relative experience”, and up until the South Carolina race I thought she ran a pretty good race and I was also annoyed when some insensitive comments were made about her. Chris Matthews comment about how she wouldn’t be where she is today if her husband hadn’t cheated on her was way over the top and unacceptable. Therefore, it seems to me that Geraldine Ferraro’s comment about Obama, done as her surrogate, should also be viewed as unacceptable, and yet it took what, nearly a week for her to say that’s not how she wants to run her own campaign? By then, I could see the handwriting on the wall. What I’m saying is that if anyone convinced me to take another look at Obama and pushed me into his camp, it was Hillary, herself.

And just to set the record straight, I am a white woman, approaching 63 years old fast, and I was born a Democrat, as my parents were before me. My father was a politician. I have never voted Republican in my life, and I don’t foresee that I ever will.

… almost all of that crowd [Watergate era] ended up hanging their heads in shame (except of Pat Buchanon). They all knew they violated laws and the intent of the Constintution. Also, many were young ambitious guys led along by old time horses asses.

His crowd seems blatant and shameless, and about half the illegalities were facilitated by the young guys, like Yu.

It’s part of a strategy which I believe the Bush mafia has used to gain power. They offer the moon to every significant interest group in exchange for the presidency. This enabled the party to unite as never before and they took the whole government. But, with that power came the rest of the mess and whatever it has been that the Bush people want (still probably not well known if you ask me).

It’s pander politics at it’s absolute worst.

One group they’ve pandered to is ideological. The’ve basically told them for decades that they can ignore Democrat (sic) rule and laws and just thumb their noses at Democrats. This uninhibiting influence has produced some pretty dramatic moments and disgusting behavior, but it also got the Bush people some very dedicated supporters.

They gave tax cuts to the rich and probably bought off a lot of the media. They got the MIC behind them with promises of war. They got the Jewish support for the same reason. They have the Evangelicals support by promising Armageddon or Rapture or something.

It’s a very unholy alliance.

What I’d like to know is what think-tank put it all together and what exactly, besides having the presidency, does the Bush family get out of this.

Encouraging signs of leadership are an endangered species these days.

John Edwards has faced the death of his son and the fear of the death of his wife Elizabeth and knows more clearly than most the “urgency of now”.

I hope Obama recognizes that and it’s positive implications.

I do not understand how she could behave so stupidly.

There is a reason, but don’t waste your time on it. Just know her show is closing soon.

she has veracity issues

verasimilitudinosity

It closely bears a similarity to veracity, but you just know it’s triangulation by another spelling.

… Obama and Hilary are to the right of 70% of the American people on ending the war now!

They are to the Right of the majority on healthcare! … After all Penn and Dobson only know about bashing Liberals.

To some people Liberal is anybody who doesn’t bow down and repeat the Conservative Bush party line.

That the two final Democratic candidates, Clinton and Obama, were the two most conservative Dems indicates the powerful in America simply won’t let any normal Democratic candidate win the presidency.

I think there is a sickness in America. Where George W. Bush is allowed to walk around free of impeachment and conviction and all Democrats, save Hillary, are called Liberal (in a derogatory way) there is a dismissal of a very large percentage of the American public (who don’t think Obama is very far to the Left). Who dismisses that candidate dismisses the electorate who would support him or her.

Who are these people who toss out so much of the public? How do they get away with it? What harm does it do to Democracy and America? What can be done to shift the balance of power to a more survivable place?

What we have here is a terrible imbalance of power.

Ann, from what I understand Hillary has been winning the registered democratic vote in most primaries. I am a long-time registered democrat in CA and I just don’t hear the type of anger and hatred posted here (see the preceding comment) expressed by my fellow democrats in my precinct. There is healthy skepticism about Obama’s relative experience, and a lot of irritation with how the mainstream media have piled onto Hillary. I sometimes wonder if the more egregious comments made here are by people who have never associated with the democratic party in the first place.