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	<title>Comments on: Late Night FDL: Roger That, or I&#8217;m Stone in love with me (but my wife is more openminded)</title>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A traveller tells us it gets pretty icy way down near the pit of Hell:&lt;/p&gt;
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I answered: ‘Are you asking help from me?&lt;br /&gt;
Tell me who you are. Then I’ll free your gaze,&lt;br /&gt;
or travel —promise!— to the deepest ice.’&lt;br /&gt;
‘I,’ he replied, ‘am Brother Alberigo.&lt;br /&gt;
I of the Evil Orchard, Fruiterer.&lt;br /&gt;
Here I receive exquisite dates for figs.’&lt;br /&gt;
‘Oh,’ I now said, ’so you’re already dead?’&lt;br /&gt;
‘Well, how my body fares above,’ he said,&lt;br /&gt;
’still in the world, my knowledge is not sure.&lt;br /&gt;
There is, in Ptolomea, this advantage,&lt;br /&gt;
that souls will frequently come falling down&lt;br /&gt;
before Fate Atropos has granted them discharge.&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
The instant any soul commits, like me,&lt;br /&gt;
some act of treachery, a demon takes&lt;br /&gt;
possession of that body form and rules&lt;br /&gt;
its deeds until its time is done. Swirling,&lt;br /&gt;
the soul runs downward to this sink. And so&lt;br /&gt;
the body of that shade behind —a twitter&lt;br /&gt;
all this winter through— still seems up there perhaps. …’
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/355oyp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dante, &lt;i&gt;Inferno&lt;/i&gt;, Canto 33, lines 115–135, tr. R.Kirkpatrick&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A traveller tells us it gets pretty icy way down near the pit of Hell:</p>
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I answered: ‘Are you asking help from me?<br />
Tell me who you are. Then I’ll free your gaze,<br />
or travel —promise!— to the deepest ice.’<br />
‘I,’ he replied, ‘am Brother Alberigo.<br />
I of the Evil Orchard, Fruiterer.<br />
Here I receive exquisite dates for figs.’<br />
‘Oh,’ I now said, ’so you’re already dead?’<br />
‘Well, how my body fares above,’ he said,<br />
’still in the world, my knowledge is not sure.<br />
There is, in Ptolomea, this advantage,<br />
that souls will frequently come falling down<br />
before Fate Atropos has granted them discharge.<br />
…<br />
The instant any soul commits, like me,<br />
some act of treachery, a demon takes<br />
possession of that body form and rules<br />
its deeds until its time is done. Swirling,<br />
the soul runs downward to this sink. And so<br />
the body of that shade behind —a twitter<br />
all this winter through— still seems up there perhaps. …’
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<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/355oyp" rel="nofollow">Dante, <i>Inferno</i>, Canto 33, lines 115–135, tr. R.Kirkpatrick</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: hackworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>hackworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;F*cking guy was brilliant.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F*cking guy was brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ron zuber at 86–thanks, that gave me more names to pull up on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsmeat.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.newsmeat.com&lt;/a&gt; although i’ve noticed they need to do an update.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and i found it interesting in your link that bush is at a private fundraiser tonight up there. with all that’s going on, he’s eating party food, raising money.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;=====&lt;br /&gt;
thanks hackworth at 102, i wondered…….i’ll go take a look-see. ummmmm, hmmmmm, ummmmmm, peeking around the corner first, it’s david, it could be anything.&lt;br /&gt;
===&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;suz at 96–yeeeeees, that’s why i said it was sooooooo tacky to say : )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but it whammed into my brain and wouldn’t leave…..it’s a small world, everybody knows that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;=======&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;quebecois–REALLY nice photo of the building…….the lines and colors are exceptional, the light perfect to capture them both…….it’s a great one, a keeper, you don’t have to say where it is, but what is it? looks like a mini-arts center, is it?…….i didn’t look at all of them, my dial-up is slow enough normally, but today it’s really&lt;br /&gt;
slow……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;======&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and jayt–know a few people who were ruined by the ’reveal laws’……most of them were young, had underage girlfriends, with permission of their parents, until parents got mad at teenager or partner and brought charges…..some were barely over 18…..now they’re sex offenders for life for having a girlfriend.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;at least they can explain it to prospective bosses for what it is..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;two others lost in court over allegations from spouses…nasty divorces…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;these two are jammed for life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;please get your ass to a doctor, your body has not been acting right for a while now, time to face it so you can feel better. JMHO and what i would make you do if i were there. yes, i said make.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ron zuber at 86–thanks, that gave me more names to pull up on <a href="http://www.newsmeat.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsmeat.com</a> although i’ve noticed they need to do an update.</p>
<p>and i found it interesting in your link that bush is at a private fundraiser tonight up there. with all that’s going on, he’s eating party food, raising money.</p>
<p>=====<br />
thanks hackworth at 102, i wondered…….i’ll go take a look-see. ummmmm, hmmmmm, ummmmmm, peeking around the corner first, it’s david, it could be anything.<br />
===</p>
<p>suz at 96–yeeeeees, that’s why i said it was sooooooo tacky to say : )</p>
<p>but it whammed into my brain and wouldn’t leave…..it’s a small world, everybody knows that.</p>
<p>=======</p>
<p>quebecois–REALLY nice photo of the building…….the lines and colors are exceptional, the light perfect to capture them both…….it’s a great one, a keeper, you don’t have to say where it is, but what is it? looks like a mini-arts center, is it?…….i didn’t look at all of them, my dial-up is slow enough normally, but today it’s really<br />
slow……</p>
<p>======</p>
<p>and jayt–know a few people who were ruined by the ’reveal laws’……most of them were young, had underage girlfriends, with permission of their parents, until parents got mad at teenager or partner and brought charges…..some were barely over 18…..now they’re sex offenders for life for having a girlfriend.</p>
<p>at least they can explain it to prospective bosses for what it is..</p>
<p>but</p>
<p>two others lost in court over allegations from spouses…nasty divorces…..</p>
<p>these two are jammed for life.</p>
<p>please get your ass to a doctor, your body has not been acting right for a while now, time to face it so you can feel better. JMHO and what i would make you do if i were there. yes, i said make.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
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		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, who was it who called him an idiot?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, who was it who called him an idiot?</p>
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		<title>By: GregB</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gerlad Ford, now he was brave.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Dick Cheney&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerlad Ford, now he was brave.</p>
<p>-Dick Cheney</p>
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		<title>By: GregB</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Meese had a commsion that spent millions of dollars looking at porn and determined that porn gave guys boners.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-G&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meese had a commsion that spent millions of dollars looking at porn and determined that porn gave guys boners.</p>
<p>-G</p>
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		<title>By: hackworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>hackworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There was a mentally handicapped teen in Florida who exposed himself to a young girl. He was put through the ringer and consequently labelled as a sex offender. (IIRC, he was wheelchair bound.) He was so stressed out about the neighbors subsequent harrassment of him that he committed suicide.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a mentally handicapped teen in Florida who exposed himself to a young girl. He was put through the ringer and consequently labelled as a sex offender. (IIRC, he was wheelchair bound.) He was so stressed out about the neighbors subsequent harrassment of him that he committed suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: jayt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;s there another way to make sure that sex offenders (esp. pedophiles) don’t end up in places where they have access to vulnerable kids?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I dunno, but it’s a worthy question.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I left FDL once for several weeks as to this matter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once, but only once, I represented a guy who I eventually realized was stone-cold guilty. So what did I do?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To my everlasting shame, I withdrew from the case. A true chicken-shit move on my behalf. I should have stayed, beat the thing at trial, and *then* learn to live with myself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I wasn’t that brave.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>s there another way to make sure that sex offenders (esp. pedophiles) don’t end up in places where they have access to vulnerable kids?</i></p>
<p> I dunno, but it’s a worthy question.</p>
<p>I left FDL once for several weeks as to this matter.</p>
<p>Once, but only once, I represented a guy who I eventually realized was stone-cold guilty. So what did I do?</p>
<p>To my everlasting shame, I withdrew from the case. A true chicken-shit move on my behalf. I should have stayed, beat the thing at trial, and *then* learn to live with myself.</p>
<p>But I wasn’t that brave.</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chris, just wanted to say hi; I’m not really into film these days. I fall asleep right away, so I wait til it gets to DVD and even then…I fall asleep.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, just wanted to say hi; I’m not really into film these days. I fall asleep right away, so I wait til it gets to DVD and even then…I fall asleep.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Strom Thurmond sired a child with a 15 yro black girl…?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strom Thurmond sired a child with a 15 yro black girl…?</p>
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