Elizabeth Bumiller of the NYTimes — now branded as the reporter McCain most recently vented his temper on in public – had a piece yesterday discussing two "McCain Moments" that were revelatory of just how much mercurial temper and ego play a role in his decision making. And how willing he has been to hide behind staffers or others when trying to distance himself from the consequences of his attempted actions once they are uncovered.
Ronald Reagan was a master of this. We all know how well buck-passing’s worked for the Bush/Cheney Administration wherein no bad deed goes unblamed way, way down the staffing line so long as the high level folks remain untouched by accountability. So the grunts in McCain’s camp can look forward to life as a potential scapegoat at any moment, I suppose. Haven’t we had enough of this already?
Bumiller showcases the McCain flirtation with switching parties after his bitter loss in SC in 2000 to George Bush and his political dirty tricksters — short-lived though it was, since he now embraces the very people responsible for smears on his wife and children…but hey, that’s McCain’s political future we are talking about, isn’t it? And the McCain approach to John Kerry about potentially becoming Kerry’s running mate in 2004. Both of which McCain was content to allow a political aide to answer for him by trying to recast long-known stories in a better light for today’s version of McCain.
But there are many more examples of McCain’s ego, buck-passing maneuvers and outright avoidance of responsibility above and beyond the two highlighted by Bumiller.
– Sen. Jim Webb is sponsoring a revision of the GI Bill, so that servicemembers can afford to come back home after grueling tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere and be able to pay for college at today’s costs — not the ones from WWII that the Pentagon is trying to stingily stick to in today’s dollars. On this bill, as on so many others, McCain is a no show:
…College costs have escalated, and benefits have shrunk. Service members are surprised to discover that the grateful nation that made it possible for Sen. John Warner to go to both college and law school and Sen. Frank Lautenberg to graduate from an Ivy League university won’t even cover three years at a public institution, much less a private college. Members of the National Guard and Reserves, who have been a linchpin of the current conflicts, receive only a fraction of that help….
[Webb's] revamped GI Bill would cover the full cost of the most expensive public institution in any given state; World War II vets like Lautenberg and Warner are enthusiastic supporters, as are dozens of other senators. (Oddly enough, Webb has not been able to get John McCain, who received the ultimate taxpayer-funded education at the Naval Academy, to take a position on the bill.)… (emphasis mine)
Unconscionable. But there’s McCain, running ads hyping his military service. Supporting vets is something you do — not just pretend to do, John.
– There is McCain’s recent whirlwind government-sponsored travel extravaganza – paid for primarily with your tax dollars, btw — so that McCain along with good buddies Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham could stage a foreign policy PR stunt for the masses.
McCain repeatedly insisted last week that his government-funded trip was not a campaign stunt aimed at voters. Rather, he said, it was a fact-finding mission similar to trips abroad taken regularly by members of Congress in both parties….
He paused for a fundraiser with about 100 wealthy American expatriates living in London, who gathered at the ancestral home of Princess Diana and dined on duck salad and ice cream flambe. (His aides said the campaign reimbursed the government $3,000 for travel because of the political nature of the fundraiser.) McCain also gave numerous interviews to U.S. television network correspondents who followed him across the continent and to local newspapers in each country, which touted exclusives on their front pages. And he was hardly treated like a member of Congress by world leaders now eyeing him as a potential equal.
In Paris, French President Nicolas Sarkozy led McCain into the Elysee Palace past a throng of cameras, where the pair sipped cappuccino around a large table set with grapes. In Israel, he walked past Chagall stained-glass windows to meet with President Shimon Peres at his ceremonial home. In London, protocol dictated the absence of a red carpet at 10 Downing, but there was a photo op in the White Drawing Room….
McCain’s political advisers say those images were a valuable reminder to voters of a key asset. "This trip has shown the world Senator McCain’s foreign policy credentials and highlighted the depth of his knowledge on international affairs," Rick Davis, his campaign manager, wrote in a memo to supporters.
But there were missteps as well. By incorrectly saying that Iran was training al-Qaeda insurgents rather than Shiite extremists, McCain sparked days of headlines questioning that depth of knowledge he so often boasts of on the campaign trail….
"Was it a good trip? Yeah, it was good" was how one of McCain’s senior advisers summed up the journey as the senator from Arizona headed to London for a few days of downtime with his wife, Cindy. "The impression that came back to the American people was someone who was deeply comfortable there in a way that showed he’s ready to be president." (emphasis mine)
Two things: Rick Davis is the master of the "leaked PR missive disguised as a campaign memo," but there is no public calling out of this in the article. And, second, why on earth would you grant anonimity to a campaign aide to praise his own candidate effusively about a campaign tactic? Note how McCain’s trip is all about staging the latest public version of himself, but his efforts were pretty much a rubber stamp of Bush’s cowboy diplomacy policies with a few, well-chosen dissenting points on which there is likely to be little or no agreement within the GOP — and they know it. No serious questions on that point by the press, either.
– There is the stunt with the "fired" staffer who put out a hit YouTube on Obama which McCain then got to publicly disavow all the while getting out the "scary negro" message they’d wanted to publicize in the first place. Welcome to Lee Atwater School of Thuggery 101. (If you think this isn’t going to be a GOP pop-up constant, then you didn’t see the Pat Buchanan pile-on.) McCain’s staffers have been vetting out a familiar attack line on Clinton for months, having the groundwork already laid for them by the Arkansas Project and other wurlitzer appendages. McCain is not only NOT above the fray, he relishes being in it — and the media does the American public no favors by pretending otherwise.
– And his hypocrisy on the issue of campaign finance laws that he is openly thumbing his nose at is becoming the stuff of bad legend. Let alone how much pointing out his lobbyist pal connections gets his goat.
And on and on it goes. The DNC has started hitting McCain on the hypocrite angle – not a moment too soon, in my book. (Video on McCain’s contradictory Iraq statements here.)
Related posts:
- McCain Rediscovers His Passion for Screwing Us with Bad Telecom Policy
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- McCain is a Clunker, Can I Trade Him in?
- At Pivotal Moment in Supreme Court History, Corporate Media Wonders if Sotomayor is “Racist,” “Activist”
- Frank Rich: McCain Was Wrong On Everything. CNN Treats Him As Sage






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BAH!
’alloooo…
I think once we can collectively turn our sights onto McCandyCain, we’ll be able to influence BigMedia’s coverage of McLoser much more….No matter how many Bar-B-Ques St. John throws for the cocktail-weenie munchers.
He’s a really bad candidate. Even worse than Shrub.
we’ve got to get after McCain – this intraparty bashing is total bs.
Morning all — sorry this is a bit longer than usual, but it needed documenting this morning.
How is everyone today? Gorgeous weather here, daffodils all blooming, and the family kitty is purring happily on the chair next to me at the moment…
Do watch the video from the DNC in the last link in the post. More coming along those lines, I hear…
And I hope everyone likes the “scapegoat” pix — cracked me up this morning. *g*
He is much worse than Bush.
But will continue to preen and rise in the polls while the Democrats fight.What a shame.
I don’t see a true McCain moment coming until he debates our Dem. It will be nearly impossible to cover for him in that forum.
McVain’s temper has always made me nervous.
His 2-facedness is repulsive. Hopefully more and more of the electorate will notice. He’s not too too bright at coverup.
That goat’s sweet face says it all. The intelligence in those eyes beats anything in the Republic stable.
Good Morning CHS. 20 degrees but the snow drops are making an appearance and the birds are getting very lusty.
Hypocrite thy name is MCain
OT: A revolt at SCOTUS
Overstepped his authority? How the hell can that be the man is omnipetent!
yumm a Christy linkfest!
Good Morning Christy and thanks!
you’ve got our lunch hour reading laid out for us *s*
only early bird daffodils here, have yet to see a tulip. But things are sprouting up and the sun shines!
People are seeing Hillary’s Tuzla moments and Carville’s “judas” comment and reacting to the grown-up in the room.
CHS:
McCain is “hyping his military service in ads”?
Have you seen his campaign logo? It’s got a general’s star on it, for crying out loud.
Good Morning Christy.
Please don’t you ever apologize for length of your posts. You always say what needs to be said. Good pithy prose never harms our brains, eh?!
I keep wondering if Russ Feingold is ever going to speak out against McCan’t and his law breaking. Russ is sort of attached at the hip to CrazyTrain McCain through McCain-Feingold.
Would make for some good ads in Fall to have Russ calling out St. John.
McCain is a front, just like Bush. Keep your eyes on his VP. That’s where the real power is under Rethug administration. The top guy is just a shill to keep the proles believing that peace and prosperity are just around the corner.
Why is this guy considered such a threat re; a Dem presidency? He’s $8 mill in the hole, has only got $65 mill in donations and every-time he opens his mouth BS falls out….Hmmm, paper boogy-man perhaps???
Completely OT, but for those who follow the oddities re; 9/11/cell phone calls from planes (Olson’s wife)/etc, this may be of interest..
AEROMOBILE CALLS A WORLD FIRST
20th March, 2008 – The world’s first authorised in-flight mobile phone calls on a commercial flight took place today following the successful installation of the AeroMobile system by Emirates Airline.
http://www.aeromobile.net/news.asp?ID=47
This one? [/snark]
OT, but this comment reminds me of the Washington Post’s repulsive op-ed, “Easter“, from Sunday.
I have to say, I like the phrase “McCain Moment” — because the alliteration in it is awfully sticky. But I fear that it’s too close to “senior moment” which can be an awfully insulting statement to a whole lot of voters on several levels. What do you guys think? Can it be used in the context I’ve outlined above in terms of hypocritical, hiding behind staffers to avoid accountability, not living up to public statements and promises sort of description?
Or would using it create more problems than it would be worth?
I’m thinking they need to hire the jib-jab guys to sharpen up the bit, but it makes a point.
Agreed on the need to jib jab it up a bit. *g*
I think we should avoid making fun of the “age issue” too much. It will turn off a lot of voters. There’s plenty to attack this loser on without alienating a large voter bloc.
I like the goat picture. Is that a sly or not so sly reference to some old goat? *g*
And I think that it was good that McBush had Joe and Lindsey along or else who would have corrected him so quickly for all the wrong statements he has made.
from 1/3/08
DNC: 5 Sharpest Turns of the Doubletalk Express
p.s. George Will refers to him as “a situational ethicist” teehee
McCain is the new old Fred Thompson. He is a media created and media driven candidate. He is a straightshooter, maverick, campaign finance reformer, and foreign policy expert because that is how the media have decided to sell him. That lobbyists pull his strings, he doesn’t know Sunni from Shia, he backs torture, he blatantly violates campaign finance laws, and knows nothing about the economy are so much whingeing to be rationalized, lied about, or just ignored. McCain is the real thing, just like the Wizard of Oz was a real wizard as long as you never looked behind the curtain.
Nah. Cheney is sui generis.
But you’re right — he’d be a front. CHS had an illuminating post on what a garrulous gadfly McCain is when he mouths off about the mideast and foreign policy, generally. I think he imagines he’d be a maverick in foreign policy, but if he were ever elected he’d quickly bump up against the reality of what our foreign policy, at least under Republicans, has become.
McCain is too old to be elected prez…He’s also not in the best of health to be prez. Also, by his own admission, he knows nothing about the economy, and also doesn’t know the difference btween Shia and Sunni. So why is this guy running for prez again? Just because he was captured in Vietnam and got be a guest of the Commies for a while? Or is it because he thinks he’s privileged to do so as a white man? These are legit questions…
Could you make something out of “McCaint”?
You just can’t BUY that kind of coverage. It’s priceless. It’s the real thing. Use it early & often!!!
“senior moment” is what I immediately though when hearing “McCain Moment.” Seems descriptive to me. I’m too young to be offended by saying someone has a “senior moment” and the good natured seniors in my life would find humor in the reference.
I’m still for the Cain label. I think it helps to drive a wedge between the fundies and neocons.
John McCain is a despicable thug. And so is his good buddy Joe Lieberman.
gee. don’t hold back. heh ;->
Why not just call a spade a bloody shovel, eh?
Good for Bumiller, and good for the DNC! I hope Kerry has something in writing on the VP front.
McBush leads both dem candidates in early polling. Way too early to be meaningful- but points out the risks of insufficient McBush bashing!
As someone entering the senior phase, I have no problem with the phrase McCain Moment. In my experience, most seniors readily acknowledge that they have senior moments and laugh about it with their peers. Of course, the McCain Moments aren’t very funny.
the moment I saw him forgive and embrace the maggot that attacked his family I lost the respect I had for the man.
that poll is counter intuitive, the democrats have more turnout then in history of this country, in a race that was brutally close without this dem turnout
there is no way there should be a poll that shows mccain beating anyone, I think they are setting the stage for a flipped vote
McBush has no solutions other than the great stratergies that got us where we are- and yet he’s leading to dems who do (sort of) have (some) solutions.
I love goats; they’re such friendly and curious animals. But for some reason this picture reminded me of a video I saw, I can’t remember where, of a woman who was talking about the circle of life or some such thing and she went on talking about how she pets and gives attention to her animals even as she is slitting there throats for food. It was almost enough to make me a vegetarian, even though I knew that she was right, that the way she does it, the animals probably feel little or no pain, and if we must kill for nourishment, that’s the way to do it. Ugh.
I thought is was an “old goat”
Rus
Christy,
sincerely hope I am not stealing your thunder, but
cannot wait for this Saturday’s Book Salon !
curious when I saw ad for it at another site and as it is already in paperback, checked the Book Salon link to see if I’d missed it’s FDL coverage during my radio silence period – Nope !
Free Ride: McCain and the Media
excerpt
$12 and looks like avail for cheap but quick shipping
I’ve heard it said that McCain will make Bush look like the Dalai Lama. Our infighting is a very risky proposition. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!
I like the phrase “McCain Moment”. I don’t think seniors will be insulted, as they often use it in a joking way, but know the real feeling of being pissed off at themselves for forgetting something they know that they know. And it’s not something they’ll want in their president. Or their surgeon, or their pilot…
I had the same general reaction.
My concern with the phrase is more basic. The word “moment” implies that this is an isolated thing. In McCain’s case, however, we’re talking about a pattern of behavior as Christy so ably points out. This pattern appears so regularly that it is hardly a “once in a while” occurrence.
We’re talking about the basic Mechanics of the McCain Machine.
Well, well! Rick admits this was a political stunt tour. Now the world knows MctheKnife is a big boy now. Shaking hands with world leaders shows his knowledge of international affairs. A slap on the back is serious foreign policy stuff. Too much for us little peeps to understand!
And, all on the working people’s backs.
“McCain Syndrome,” perhaps?
Or “Another edition of the McCain Mentality”
McCain kills Able.
I thought the goat pic was “My Pet Goat”.
I’m senior, & I like it. Add the word “Another” to it and you’re there.
Another McCain Moment.
That separates it from senior AND reminds folk they’re frequent, all in one swell foop! ymmv
“McCain Mentality” is good. It keeps the alliteration going.
‘McCain Moment’ is descriptive, but I think it makes people sigh and say, “Aw, bless his little heart” instead of “Oh Hell no, I don’t want another crazy liar in office.”
I think it lessens his stupidity and duplicity, and makes him slightly sympathetic.
I’d rather hear him described over and over as the man who now embraces those who called his adopted daughter an “illegitamate black child fathered by McCain.”
He sucks up to someone who hurt his family, because they can further his political career. That is the Mark of McCain.
Just my take.
McCain Moment-um
This post really is a linkfest! After closing out the links to the same pages, I still have 25 unique links from this post.
Time for a little reading, anyone?
McMisrememberance moment
I like “Another McCain Moment”… good job, Adie
CHS r0x w/ linkfest!
Yeah, but get real. McCain isn’t as ugly as Lieberman.
“Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone.”
He’s getting closer every time he opens his mouth. And the sight of them together, with a side of Gray-ham is more than I can stomach.
I don’t think it is precisely because he is a white man, maybe generically so, but I would say that both Bush and McCain have lived lives defined by entitlement. McCain went to Annapolis and became a naval aviator not because of hard work or great intelligence but because his father and grandfather were admirals. Similarly, Bush would not have made it to Yale if his father and grandfather had not gone there. McCain had the detour of his years as Vietnam War POW but after that the trajectory of entitlement again looks the same for both.
Indeed although it’s another one of those taboos we are not supposed to mention, McCain was able to parlay his POW status into a political career and use it throughout that career as a halo protecting him from his more dubious actions and misstatements: his involvement with the Keating 5, with lobbyists, his bailing on his participation in public campaign financing when it became inconvenient, his marriages, his sitting on release of documents in the Abramoff scandal, for example.
McCain’s unstable mental state was dominant before his prisoner days. His admiral daddy pulled strings for him so he could remain in the Navy. Like many personality and mental traits, as you get older they can become more pronounced. The older he gets, the worse he gets! It has nothing to do with his age. Practicing bad behavior for so many years makes perfect.
If you think McCain is working this hard to hand over the reins of power to his second in command, or that he just wants the trappings of power, than we are talking about two completely different people. My real worry is that if he achieves the power he seeks, once he gets in power his alzhiemer will come out in force and we will be stuck with either Pawlenty or Mitt or some other surrogate that will be just as bad. It really doesn’t matter which Repug we end up with; all would be terrible news for this country. We know this, and yet we go on with the infighting? This is truly terrible for Dems; we may be watching Dems once again grabbing defeat from the hands of victory. That is my biggest fear!
Good. Another Senior Moment.
“he now embraces the very people responsible for smears on his wife and children…”
McCoward
Today the superlative Doghouse Riley has a post up that tears a rather large chunk out of St. McCain.
I like the phrase “McCain Moment”. I don’t think seniors will be insulted, as they often use it in a joking way,…
Close call, but I agree. A McCain Moment is pretty obviously the precise equivalent of “Senior Moment”, but I’ve personally heard many older people use it in a self-deprecatory manner, in good humor. Not necessarily happy about it, but acknowledging (and recognizing the reality of it).
I don’t see it as insulting, but more as a reality-check.
You could have fooled me.
True. That pic up front on HuffPo is pretty scary.
McCain isn’t as ugly as Lieberman….
Physically or morally?
Because McCain is considered the least offensive of the Rethugs, many Indies still think of him as a maverick, not willing to toe the Repug line, many Dems also don’t consider him the threat that we do, and have considered voting for him if their own candidate is not the nominee. He was nominated because the Rethugs care more about their side winning than they do which one wins. For some reason, Dems are unable to think about what they’re doing to the party. They’re much too focused on an individual than on what’s right for the party. We can only hope that’s not a losing formula.
But McCain was the one telling the claiming Iran to be in league with Al Qaeda, and Lieberman was the one correcting him.
Easy. Ugly is as ugly does.
Just a driveby…. grumpy grandpa McBush but also Cindy McBush is not sweetness and light…. Heard from people who have had to “deal” with her…. the usual phase is….. “boy is she a piece of work”…. They are quite a pair….
Rumors here in AZ more so since 2004 where he knowingly sold his soul to Bush vs taking Kerry up with the VP slot (OMG can you imagine that one?!) that Rove & company would do anything to make sure that McBush gets the nomination so that ALL and everything they put in place continues AND now little Jebby the hut gets his swing of ruining the rest of what is known as America.
After episode #3 of John Adams….. where are those modern day patriots who were willing to hang by standing up to Tyranny?
I like the Cheney-esque headline:
“We’re Succeeding – I don’t care what anybody says”.
Reaching out to Darth as a Veep candidate?
I also hereby propose that “So?!?” become the new “Zed”.
One of the things that Jane and I have noticed over the last few weeks is that research pieces on McCain don’t seem to get the same interest level as pieces on either Obama or Clinton in terms of Dem discussion. No idea why that is — we keep doing the digging on McCain because it needs to be done — including a lot more of it to come.
But I cannot understand why some Dems would rather fling poo at each other than try to get a head start on what we will surely need as a foundation going into November. It genuinely mystifies me.
it’s not the scar. it’s not the yellowed teeth.
it’s the eyes. THERE’s the ugly for all to see.
People are now claiming that Hillary favors McCain over Obama, since a McCain victory would leave the door open for her to run in 2012.
I think McCain Moment is fine, because he is the one who, for whatever reason, keeps having moments that are adding up to a pattern of cluelessness, hypocrisy, stupidity, and a character that is prone to giving in to those who have mistreated him — and he is old and unhealthy — that is just a fact. He is a weak man.
Ann in AZ @ 66 & 74 -
{{{You speak for me. Thanks for saying it so well.}}}
I believe that might be true.
bom dia, pups
how are you measuring interest? by the number of comments? by the number page hits? by the number of emails? or something else?
i sometimes wonder if im still living in a democracy? i guess we will all know come the nov. presidential elections if mccain gets it we will know that we are not,
Google trends of clinton, obama and mccain support your observation.
As an added bonus, The General has a guest post by St. John McCain.
Howdy wobbly ;->
Great post Christy.
OT….so Hillary wanted to block Nixon impeachment, I guess the ‘vetting” continues!
http://www.opednews.com/articl…..lost_j.htm
i think folks are trying to figure out the behavior of the campaign.
That is really interesting. I think the Dems are so frustrated by the constant media barrage about Obama and Clinton that they get riled up because of that and then jump in and comment…the media is maddening.
Dems need to stay focused on the real contest and make sure McCain doesn’t accidentally get elected because the Dems are not paying attention…
Sounds just like the American Enterprise Institute. They are all riled up again about continuing their war plans, with other people’s blood to fuel their ambitions, so they can rule the world. They are going strong again, salivating at a renewal of their power to run the world under McCain. I also think under Hill as well.
Judging from the missteps from McCain’s recent European trip, I believe we’re seeing the first signs of early onset Alzheimer’s. Let’s keep an eye on the progression of this condition during the course of the summer.
This for folks who are following interesting company buys etc…
From Monday’s Globe and Mail
March 24, 2008 at 4:32 AM EDT
‘The sale of Canada’s leading aerospace company to U.S. interests would put Canada’s sovereignty over the Arctic at risk, a retired commander of Canadian Forces in the North and a former head of the Canadian Space agency said yesterday.
Pierre Leblanc, the former commander of the Northern Area, and Marc Garneau, one of Canada’s best-known astronauts and now a federal Liberal candidate, criticized the proposed $1.3-billion sale of the geospatial unit of MacDonald Dettwiler and Associates Ltd. to U.S. weapons-maker Alliant Techsystems Inc. ‘
http://www.theglobeandmail.com…..m_mostview
weather change here. it had ben warmer than usual but today, it’s marine layer is very thick (super overcast) and all mr and i want to do is stay indoors under a blanket and read books
One of the things that Jane and I have noticed over the last few weeks is that research pieces on McCain don’t seem to get the same interest level as pieces on either Obama or Clinton in terms of Dem discussion.
Maybe because McCain is a given at this point, while the D situation is much more fluid, and the pups are very in-the-moment?
But I cannot understand why some Dems would rather fling poo at each other than…
Agreed. I stand firmly against poo-flinging.
Maybe I should re-state that: I try to stay a constantly moving target against poo-flinging…
All of the above, actually, and the types of comments we get via all of those venues as well that aren’t as public.
That would be dandy as caption for cartoon of bigtime with his pockets overflowing with cash.
I know he’s rank, but what level of rank did he get to?
late spring here too. getting antsy!
If McCain, for some health reason, were to bail out of the Puke nomination before November, how would that be handled by the Republican Party? Would that put Mitt in? Remember, Mitt is Dick’s guy. Maybe this is the real plan. I believe Mitt will probably be his VP choice, imposed upon him by the Neocons in any case..
LOL! Loved the Captain Queeq references.
The neos like McCain. He was their first choice in 2000, IIRC.
McLobby is about to give a speech on housing and the economy.
Gotta go git somethin’ done, gang. Thanks for terrific posts Christy, and all you puppy-commenters.
P E A C E
Per McCain:
But there’s no such thing as winning a losing game, and Iraq is a win/win for Al Qaeda:
— If the U.S. withdraws, they have defeated they have yet again saved Islam from a western superpower.
— If we don’t withdraw they gather ever more recruits and bleed us ever closer to bankruptcy.
Either way the U.S. loses. So, let’s cut out losses short.
I’d also like to say that, while comments may, at the moment, be bringing forth fewer comments, the posts are by no means unnecessary, unwelcome or unneeded.
I thank you both for these pieces, and please keep ‘em coming. I kind of look at them as ammunition stored, money-in-the-bank….
Please don’t stop – we need you both.
Re the double standard, you have to understand that this is the same media that has gone into paroxysms of adulation when Bush has given a speech where he didn’t say something too stupid. Basically, this same level of objectivity is now being applied to McCain.
McCain retired from the Navy on April 1, 1981,[63] as a Captain.[64] During his military career, he received a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, the Legion of Merit, the Purple Heart and a Distinguished Flying Cross.[65]
A Navy Captain is equivalent to a full bird in the Army.
McLobby is about to give a speech on housing and the economy.
“My friends, we need to take care of our financial insitutions and make sure that the Bush tax cuts remain in place.
Thank you for coming.”
Perhaps there is less dissagreement regarding the subject?
As a senior, I’d like to say McCain Moment makes it sound way too benign to me.
LOL and too true.
Stupid is OK if you are a Republican
But I cannot understand why some Dems would rather fling poo at each other than try to get a head start on what we will surely need as a foundation going into November. It genuinely mystifies me.
Using McCain Moment for McCain is appropriate, I think, because these McCain Moment moments may portend a serious decline in his mental capabilities.
Our President must be of clear mind, a person who is losing his faculties is easily susceptible to manipulation by those around him. That is in addition to the danger of having a President who makes CrazyTrain decisions.
I saw the video of him not being able to tell Sunni from Shia and he was oblivious.
Our last oldest President left office with Alzheimer’s. McCain’s mental abilities are an issue, a major issue.
i personally love goats and hate seeing one of those great animals associated with the foul and revolting mccain.
hehehe because we all know he has some grand plans on both fronts
“McCain Moment” is catchy and alliterative, but it excuses his failures to perform, as if we were only talking about him not having set the TiVo correctly to record Lawrence Welk.
Sen. McCain forgets things; more frequently, he ignores them. He’s a little bully and an opportunist. He lashes out constantly, as if trying to prove that his feet were not too small to fit into the shoes of his father the admiral and his grandpappy the admiral. Unlike Bush, he did risk his life in war, and suffered for it. Like Bush, he is unfit for command.
Sen. McMain lies. Not just the neighborly white lies that harmlessly oil the social gearworks. Not the usual politician’s lies about being for causes he’s against or that he’s working hard for a constituent when he simply can’t be bothered.
He lies about policies, he lies about facts, resources and problems and what he would do about them, fearing they will hurt him electorally. Never mind, because once the voters speak every four years, he can tell them to Cheney themselves and do what he wants. He lies about his past, because a frank discussion of it would hurt his ego and his chances of election. All in, he’s a cookie-cutter Rove Republican. Which is also why his credit balance with the MSM Bank is so good.
There’s plenty about McCain that’s reprehensible but hasn’t reached a full Macaca moment yet. Like the way he runs from everything he’s railed against, like torture, for the sake of political expediency. Also, the fact that he supposedly advocates election finance reform on the one hand, while on the other, lobbyists are like lice within his campaign. Or maybe crabs in pubic hair is a better simile.
Unfortunately, when you have a former President and his Senator wife who would, if she became the nominee, be McCain’s opposition in the fall, giving McCain big, wet, full-tongued verbal french kisses, in an effort to make Obama’s candidacy look like it is not viable, it can only bolster McCain’s image. It says that McCain is not threatening to Dems. Keeping in mind that not only is Obama’s candidacy viable, but so far, he is actually the majority candidate to date, so not only is this particular form of attack on Obama insulting to him, it is also insulting to the majority that have already voted for him. So what remains is that the damage she is doing to Obama is likely to outlive her campaign, and it also damages both Obama’s campaign and her own. That doesn’t even bring up the money problems Hillary’s campaign is supposedly having currently. Now you have a perscription for ruin. Somehow, the body politic needs an innoculation.
OMG – love that pic!
hanks for this post and the great start to my morning, Christy.
Yeah…
War fixes everything.
Our last oldest President left office with Alzheimer’s. McCain’s mental abilities are an issue, a major issue.
We’ll see.
after seeing part one of the PBS special, I would count on it as McCain is not nearly hawkish enough for the cheney types
gladly, no
the righties hate his ass and fortunately, left lots and lots of poisoned arrows with his name on them lying about the toobz
they hate him for McCain-Feingold – an effin’ treasure trove of factbased material on the Reform Institute
and they hate him for immigration – again, all kinds of well documented flip flops
hell I just watched an ‘82 youtube of him going after the national head of the Alliance of POW/MIA families – reducing her to tears . . .all courtesy of our ‘dear friends’ :D
Morning! How come the Lake clock is set to left coast time anyhoooo? :)
Alliance of POW/MIA families -
Easy, those people are idiots at best
I can’t see why people wouldn’t be uneasy at the thought of someone who is prone to ‘moments’ occupying the most powerful position in the world.
Trust me, the wingnuts will fall in line when it comes time to vote in the general election. It’s what they do.
the wingnuts will fall in line when it comes time to vote in the general election. It’s what they do.
“Democrats fall in love. Republicans fall in line”.
Yeah, I remember when people used to say that women were too emotional to be president. Now all of a sudden nobody seems too worried that St. John is going to have a McCain moment and “push the button”.
I believe it is because Jane was on left coast time (Oregon) at the time she started FDL.
The way the media portray things seeing everything through a distorted lens of their own prejudices and partisan preferences reminds me of the current David Brooks column up at the Times (and no I am not linking) in which he says that Clinton has become so used to being present at stage managed events, having been at thousands in her political career, that this somehow explains why she is staying in the Democratic race although she has virtually no chance of winning. The dopiness of the Brooks piece is that every Senator and major national political figure has participated in just as many staged political events. So why should Cinton’s participation in them be explanatory of anything?
What does this have to do with McCain? The media, like Republicans, create narratives, and once created they stick to them like glue despite any and all facts to the contrary. The media have bestowed the glowing labels of maverick and straightshooter on McCain. Therefore he will always be these things no matter how much evidence accumulates that neither is true.
Of course they will. There’s no thinking required. If it wasn’t easy to be a wingnut, Bush would not be one.
Sadly, discussing McCain and exposing his problems doesnt seem to matter until we can focus on beating him.
If Hillary was running a campaign without her kitchen sink, and focusing on her strength against McCain, this primary would be moving forward. She has chosen a scorched earth policy complete with “mis-speaks” instead and people are on edge and forgetting the big picture.
Which is exactly what we are supposed to do even if we have moral objections to the Clinton’s, fall in line for the good of the party.
It must be where the surfers. . .uh, servers are!
Navy Captain, O6, equivalent to Army/AF/Marine Bird Colonel. One stop below flag rank (Admirals/Generals fly “flags”)
yep
I find it interesting that, while we readily acknowledge that the msm is creating a false McCain narrative, the “Hillary and her horns” meme seems to be purchased hook, line and sinker…
it distracts dramatically from the goal.
Exactly. Us Hillarybots can’t think for ourselves, so we just let her do the thinking for us. It’s easier that way. :-)
many already have fallen in line – but there’s tons out here and I will enjoy watching the squirming to come
that aforementioned youtube is found on a page filled with Johndemnation by uniform types . . .what’s that commander ?? allow me to refresh your memory
and doesn’t remember that he pushed it. I know he just had a physical but have they released his medical records yet? I would like to know if it is Alzheimer or dementia
What is your take on her stories about Bosnia. How do you feel about it?
Even Taylor Marsh isnt happy about it.
No, you can and will do what you want. Maybe your problem with Obama isn’t as deep as mine for Hillary. My point is that we are dissin the pubs for voting in a way that some of us are urging us to do.
Dr. Strangelove not only reflected the times in which the film was made but it was prophetic. Like Muriel Spark’s “The Abbess of Crew”, you can identify every Watergate character in the nunnery.
The following appeared in WaPo this morning and reminded me of the War Room in Dr. Strangelove when the president, his cabinet and advisors (AEI) discuss the “oops” missiles they just launched against the Soviet Union. Oh, to have been in the room when the Chinese government was notified.
and per the authors of the upcoming Book Salon – he frequently jokes about it as a means to bring up his treatment at the hands of the North Vietnamese
Anger doesn’t seem to count as an emotion in that scenario since it is not one generally associated with women (except during menstruation, of course–and then the worry is being hysterical and irrational more than angry).
For those of you who were”misled” or regret voting to put George Bush and Dick Cheney in the White House, those who call themselves Republicans, please remember that, if you vote for John McCain, you’re asking for more of the same. This means swallowing your pride and doing the “right” thing by voting, of course, Republican. In turn, it means lower prices for your houses, a greater deficit for your kids to pay off, an economy in shambles, a dollar worth less and less, more Americans and Iraqis killed in a stupid war, the fracturing and weakening of the military, and having a President who doesn’t even understand what it is we’re up against in Iraq. So, go ahead, with your knee jerk reaction, and call Hillary and Obama names and deride them, go for John McCain, and have all the chaos and regret that you already have about Bush.
I think that, on the scale of things – war in Iraq, financial market meltdown, etc., etc., it is not very important but that the MSM loves to push it so much that you think its important. it’s hard to ignore the propaganda machine.
It mystifies you?
The nomination hasn’t been decided.
just tie it to his service/sacrifice to the country, why am I not surprised? he just seems confused/befuddled when he talks at times. I wouold try to watch his speches more but they are like warm milk, they knock me right out.
Kind of like the Pastor thing? Played constantly.
If you will be CIC will you lie?
Hey, she wasn’t lying, she just misspoke!
But seriously, it was a cringe moment. I don’t know what she was thinking. I know she’s smarter than that. I can’t imagine her saying that extemporaneously, but I can’t imagine her planning to say that. I don’t know.
I’m getting to the point where I just want the primary to be over and I’ll support either candidate, even if the Super delegates steal it and give it to Obama. :-)
And I honestly admire your position.
yes, like the pastor thing… these 2 are politicians… that makes both of them certainly less than perfect… McCain? another politician…
the Dems’ mistakes though seem to exploited for sport.
Intrepid First Lady Hillary Clinton ran across the tarmac under the ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa of sniper fire.
From CNN/Time
She read it from a script on one occasion. Why when it could be so easily refuted?
I agree its time to get to defeating McCain
I would like a woman as much as anyone but not a dynasty.
You’re right that I don’t have that deep a problem with Obama. I’ll vote for him if he wins the nomination, if he doesn’t say anything more nice about Benedict Ronald.
I’m starting to get pissed off by everyone jumping all over him for Reverend Wright, and that helps me see him in a more favorable light.
Frickin red tracers comin in like spooky!
Don’t confuse the neocons with the Right wing of the Republican party. During the past 7+ years, they have aligned behind Bush. But the Neocons will split fromt he religious right, tax-cut loonies and xenophobic crowd in a heartbeat if it suits their needs. They want control of the Middle East. They just hitched their wagons to Bush and his band of Bozos for convenience.
I wasn’t crazy about it when I saw him praising the old man for the way her ran the first Gulf War either.
Maybe a McCain hundred years?
BTW how many here think that Clinton has a reasonable chance at this point of winning the Democratic Party nomination? And if the answer is no, do you have any justification for her staying actively in the race?
Christy,
I simply can’t understand your concern. I mean really!!!
Let’s take stock:
Bad News, Bared;
1. Iraq occupation
2. Potential Iran ‘adventure’
3. Afghanistan (’memeber?)
4. The Main Stream Media
5. McCain’t could ‘win’
6. The ECONOMY and ‘all’ it entails etc. etc. etc.
7. Bush-Cheney, the pain and outrage just gets worser and worser and …
8. Directive 51 (John Conyers didn’t even know it existed until Take Back America. Why didn’t he know? Too busy?
Good News (Lordy, Lordy)
1. A Dem just might, possibly ‘win’
What to DO?
1. Bling ‘poo’ of all kinds
2. Fling ‘poo’ of all kinds
3. Fling more ‘poo’
4. Watch Dem candidates fling ‘poo’
Ain’t this fun?
And then, Christy, what do you suggest?
Work! Hard, slogging ‘work’. Not ‘fun’!
You suggest getting our thoughts in order to help educate and inform.
Geez, are you a kill-joy?
Very important post, by the way.
Folks whom I know are beginning to ask about McCain, have passed along some info, Keating-Five rings many bells among the thoughtful.
Am suggesting FDL to everyone, but will direct them to this post for sure.
Thanks to both you and Jane for doing the hard work while the ‘poo-moment’ obtains.
Here’s the latest from Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article…..SCOL554152
Hil landing in Bosnia
Did you guys see that Sean Hannity has been called out?
Maybe it’s a strategy thing. War stories appeal to Republics and never have to be true.
Bet the brits are happy they unassed that AO.
The disconcerting part is her response that she went to so many countries that she got things confused. I had one incident of panic in Indonesia in which I thought my life was over in the jungles of Kalimantan. I remember every detail, sound, smell, voices like it is just happening. I don’t get it confused with my hundreds of other foreign adventures. Neither did Hillary.
She does not. She must know that and chooses to fight on inspite of damage to the Party. From Harry Reid
I wish that Hillary would give a great speech about all of the reasons she is supporting Obama.
The problem with the inseparable Clintons is they are neoconservatives
packaged as democrats. In addition, senator Clinton has demonstrated
lying and instability in public that diminish her already meager
qualifications for higher office than that she holds now… too much
you go girl quality to her campaign for student council president, too
similar to her husbands junior civitan politics that led directly to
the mortgage crisis… walked away from Glass-Stegal in 99.
Roger that, someone shoots at your ass and you won’t forget it.
This is argument is akin to this one you’ve undoubtedly heard: I see all these people protesting the war — why didn’t they ever protest Saddam?
It’s a given that no one here — not even Clinton supporters threatening to vote McCain (unless they really do like the war) — is going to vote for him. Why waste the breath preaching to the choir? It’s simple why we’re “flinging poo” — the nomination’s not settled and this is our fight. It insults our intelligence to tell us not to fight that fight.
Really, this argument is terrible, although, to your credit, you didn’t phrase it as insultingly as as Jane Hamsher.
McCain very haltingly and unprepared in his speech…reading the screen in front of him….Gawd…embarrassing.
ding
It’s the borrowers fault.
And, they’re off!
see ya’ all later…
He (hannity) is just getting the loonies worked up. talk about folks who lack a soul
This is a battle of “Insiders” against a candidate who is for and from the people. First time in generations.
Of course the entrenched are screaming.
Where are you watching, LS?
Found it. MSNBC. Jane’s so right about the botox.
wow
John Nichols on the radio. NAFTA is the issue. Obama must go out and hammer on trade issues.
MSNBC
I’ll bet he wrote that speech just like Obama wrote his speech.
It would seem like such an incident involving a First Lady would be well documented. She was not just another overseas traveller and certainly wasn’t alone. Besides being very newsworthy at the time, there would be others to corroborate the events now.
Just to be fair, I have posted about McCain in the past and cannot under
any circumstance vote for him, he is as phoney as Clinton, just another
wrapper that fools the Washington press/Fan club types. A choice of
McCain or Clinton must be avoided at whatever cost, they are both neocon
bots.
Here is the link
http://www.thenation.com/blogs…..pid=302252
Re the fighting in Basra, a lot of the news stories are talking about Iraqi security forces fighting Mahdi Army militias in Basra. The problem with this picture is that it overlooks who these “Iraqi security forces” really are. The tendency would be to see them as impartial representatives and defenders of the central governmnt. More likely they are remnants of the Badr Brigades of SCIRI now ISCI who were put in the army and police to lord it over the Sadrists. If there were nationwide elections, ISCI would lose and Sadr and his Mahdi Army would win. This is what the fighting in Basra is really about. It is not Iraqi government against militia but rather militia on militia violence. It’s just that one side happens to wear government uniforms.
LS- It is the borrowers fault. They made the lenders devise those scams. They made them do it. I saw that lean and hungry look in those dreamy homeowners eyes. ;}
He sounds like W. Somebody gave him voice lessons before this speech.
you wana hear about senior moments?
bmaz has this up over at marcy’s right now WITH LINKS, go have a look, this is STUNNING;
Homeowners should put down a full downpayment at the initial “purpose of a home”…..Gawd…he’s pathetic…this is painful.
I can’t explain the poo flinging.
I think that everyone here knows that McCain is a puppet, being pushed by a complacent media, and backed by the different bases that form the repugs. There is a general “republican fatigue” that I think is due to the fact that the Denocratic leadership decided to take impeachement off the table. So, this could explain why the troops here seem to lose interest in a McBush thread, only to smear it with democratic crap tossing.
Anyways, what the hell do I know?
Very interesting. Thanks for that link.
Fixed it for you.
The botox around his mouth make him look like JoeL….weird.
Q, have you heard from Christie’s or Sotheby’s?
can someone call him out on this article to his face?
If you are that high profile, why would you
liemisspeak about something so very serious? I see her desperation and the choices she makes under pressure. These are deep concerns. This isn’t being nasty and mean-spirited towards a candidate, it is my deep concern.I’ve been observing all the candidates because they self-reveal – all three.
Hmmmm…those nuke triggers…were shipped from Wyoming….wonder what Dick knows about this….Minot incident connections?
check my post @148. I call it a Dr. Strangelove moment.
The thing is…she described a memory of something she personally did not experience….she knew it was a lie as she told the story. I find lying to the American people unacceptable, no matter who does it. What was she thinking?
It wasn’t just the sniper fire comment that rang sour with me, it was the lead-up…if the country was too small, too poor, too dangerous for the president to go, send “the First Lady.”
But then I’m just one of those unimportant red state boutique….seasoned white woman… Obama supporters….
Interest from Sotheby’s, sadly, the auction is next year, missed the june auction deadline. Christy’s will take a bit longer for a response. Sotheby’s pointed me to Philp Weiss in Long Island. I hope I’ll make the right choice.
Thanks for the interest, LH.
No to McCain “Moment”–I’m with greenwarrior. Entirely too benign and empathizable a label for senior voters.
Long time, no comment, folks.
Just had to wonder aloud why McCain’s speech was made in front of a sign that said “Paid for.”
Subliminable much? ;-)
I always advise people to tell the truth, even when they are lying. It is so much simpler to keep your story straight.
I think she misspoke, but I don’t know how she recovers from this except to go even more negative on Obama to change the subject. That will be the real tragedy.
is anyone catching mccain’s speech?
my friends..i have no idea what this about
Blue Texan is upstairs….
She’s thrashing around in a trap of her own making. She’s the “experienced” one, so she has to pad her resume and embellish.
She’s absolutely dismal. First she was “inevitable” (like death), now “experienced” (like Bush and McCain).
That just about sums McCain up in a nutshell. He’s no maverick, just a liar. We can’t let him get away with it, or we will have another Bush clone administration creating its own reality.
christy et al–
Stutter-Brain McCain
Cindy could be Strutter McCain
The problem is with this explanation is WHERE did she ever face such a situation in another country?
If she did experience such events then one can see that mixing up two different areas of conflict might make sense. It would be like you confusing events in Kalimantan with something in Sulawesi.
But this is more akin to Reagan thinking that he actually was in combat in WW2…rather than serving as a spokesperson for Army Recruitment Films.