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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357823</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;we are upstairs in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/late-nite-fdl-late-to-the-party/#Respond&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;late nite thread &lt;/a&gt;- come join us&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are upstairs in the <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/late-nite-fdl-late-to-the-party/#Respond" rel="nofollow">late nite thread </a>- come join us</p>
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		<title>By: SteveLove</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357807</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, there is one in a run-off race with a Blue Dog wannabe who was a Republican before January 4, 2008, doesn’t live in the district where he is running and has never voted in a Democratic Primary.  He is running against me, Steve Love, a life-long Democrat and attendee at the Take Back America Conference in D.C. last week where I attended a session where Jane was a presenter…which his why I am here.  :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there is one in a run-off race with a Blue Dog wannabe who was a Republican before January 4, 2008, doesn’t live in the district where he is running and has never voted in a Democratic Primary.  He is running against me, Steve Love, a life-long Democrat and attendee at the Take Back America Conference in D.C. last week where I attended a session where Jane was a presenter…which his why I am here.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357776</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks again, eCAHN.  Will do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am glad that you confirmed my sense that he does indeed have a wicked sense of humor!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again, eCAHN.  Will do.</p>
<p>I am glad that you confirmed my sense that he does indeed have a wicked sense of humor!</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357769</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that’s probably better. Unfortunately, you can’t be too careful with this stuff, especially since it’s so easy to be careless.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that’s probably better. Unfortunately, you can’t be too careful with this stuff, especially since it’s so easy to be careless.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357759</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;eCAHN- thanks again.  Yep, I was planning to black out your name.  Sorry I didn’t say that before.  And, the last point is a good one.  I should have thought about it a bit more, as I try to be careful with email stuff.  Maybe I will just read parts of it to the class, rather than printing out.   That seems a better way to go, now that I think about it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eCAHN- thanks again.  Yep, I was planning to black out your name.  Sorry I didn’t say that before.  And, the last point is a good one.  I should have thought about it a bit more, as I try to be careful with email stuff.  Maybe I will just read parts of it to the class, rather than printing out.   That seems a better way to go, now that I think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357685</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is the protocol for reprinting his words? Might he get in trouble for what he (and I, but I don’t care) said about AEI/Fox? Perhaps to be safe, you could just list his final reply as “Yes …” And you could keep my name out of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I got his email address from Case-Western Reserve website. lawrence dot krauss at case dot edu.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I often try emailing people in high places when I have a Q or think they might be interested in an observation. I almost always get a response. But you must judge that your communication will interest the recipient.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the protocol for reprinting his words? Might he get in trouble for what he (and I, but I don’t care) said about AEI/Fox? Perhaps to be safe, you could just list his final reply as “Yes …” And you could keep my name out of it.</p>
<p>I got his email address from Case-Western Reserve website. lawrence dot krauss at case dot edu.</p>
<p>I often try emailing people in high places when I have a Q or think they might be interested in an observation. I almost always get a response. But you must judge that your communication will interest the recipient.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357670</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;eCAHN- wow!  thanks so much!!!  If you don’t mind, I am going to copy the exchange, and distribute copies to my students in the FS (”Science and the Citizen”)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I never had thought of emailing Krauss, but now I would like to, knowing that he responds.  What email addy did you use for him?    I guess you should put it in code in case there are bots about, but I can probably translate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That was just great!  Thanks again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eCAHN- wow!  thanks so much!!!  If you don’t mind, I am going to copy the exchange, and distribute copies to my students in the FS (”Science and the Citizen”)</p>
<p>I never had thought of emailing Krauss, but now I would like to, knowing that he responds.  What email addy did you use for him?    I guess you should put it in code in case there are bots about, but I can probably translate.</p>
<p>That was just great!  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357668</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ECAHN, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That was great!  Thanks for sharing.  I do appreciate those ’sharp elbows’, you know how to use them well,  powerfully and  with true class!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ECAHN, </p>
<p>That was great!  Thanks for sharing.  I do appreciate those ’sharp elbows’, you know how to use them well,  powerfully and  with true class!</p>
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		<title>By: kiddo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357654</link>
		<dc:creator>kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Goodnight marymccurnin. May you rest sweetly tonight. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lahoma&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodnight marymccurnin. May you rest sweetly tonight. </p>
<p>Lahoma</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/25/true-blue/#comment-1357643</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;VG:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s the exchange:&lt;br /&gt;
Me to him:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; Dr. Krauss,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just finished watching a rebroadcast of your AEI lecture on CSPAN2.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I appreciated it very much and wanted to pass along a related comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I spent nearly three decades as a Wall Street economist, forecasting the U.S. economy, inflation, corporate profits and interest rates. However, I was a chemistry major as an undergraduate.* That gave me a big leg up against my competitors because I actually looked at what the evidence revealed, while they mined the data to support their favorite theory.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had to laugh at the Qs at AEI. The reason is that they are at the heart of faith-based foreign policy and economics. They always allow “belief to trump empirical data” (your words). Your message was very threatening to them. I am distressed with the status of economic policy in this country, which is destroying the middle class, part of the AEI dogma. (They would say that only the rich and the corporations create jobs &amp; the economy more generally.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You might be amazed at how the idea that belief should guide one’s every move has permeated the U.S. establishment, and their only appeal to empiricism is to cherry pick data. (Think Iraq.) Again, that is why science is so threatening. It’s not just its relationship with religion that’s the problem for the anti-scientists, it’s the idea that their leadership should be tested against outcomes, as the scientific method would require.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A minor suggestion: when you talk about the anti-hierarchical nature of science, refer to the scientific “process.” That would eliminate the confusion of your listeners who feel that they must resort to scientific experts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very truly yours,&lt;br /&gt;
Rosanne Cahn&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*When asked why I switched fields by someone who hadn’t seen me for 30 years, I blurted out: because science is hard and economics is easy. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His reply:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;thanks.. I appreciate the note..  agree with you re scientific “process”…   and agree with your other comments, which were&lt;br /&gt;
reinforced when I was informed after the event that the AEI people thought it was a crummy talk that didn’t treat them with&lt;br /&gt;
enough intellectual dignity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LMK
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My rejoinder:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ha. Translation: didn’t agree with their belief system. Knew it. Was very clear in the Qs. You’re braver than most, going into the belly of the beast. (Did you understand what you were getting into in advance?) Good for you.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His final:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;yes.. I am a masochist..  have done fox news too.. :)
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VG:</p>
<p>Here’s the exchange:<br />
Me to him:</p>
<blockquote><p> Dr. Krauss,</p>
<p>I just finished watching a rebroadcast of your AEI lecture on CSPAN2.</p>
<p>I appreciated it very much and wanted to pass along a related comment.</p>
<p>I spent nearly three decades as a Wall Street economist, forecasting the U.S. economy, inflation, corporate profits and interest rates. However, I was a chemistry major as an undergraduate.* That gave me a big leg up against my competitors because I actually looked at what the evidence revealed, while they mined the data to support their favorite theory.</p>
<p>I had to laugh at the Qs at AEI. The reason is that they are at the heart of faith-based foreign policy and economics. They always allow “belief to trump empirical data” (your words). Your message was very threatening to them. I am distressed with the status of economic policy in this country, which is destroying the middle class, part of the AEI dogma. (They would say that only the rich and the corporations create jobs &amp; the economy more generally.)</p>
<p>You might be amazed at how the idea that belief should guide one’s every move has permeated the U.S. establishment, and their only appeal to empiricism is to cherry pick data. (Think Iraq.) Again, that is why science is so threatening. It’s not just its relationship with religion that’s the problem for the anti-scientists, it’s the idea that their leadership should be tested against outcomes, as the scientific method would require.</p>
<p>A minor suggestion: when you talk about the anti-hierarchical nature of science, refer to the scientific “process.” That would eliminate the confusion of your listeners who feel that they must resort to scientific experts.</p>
<p>Very truly yours,<br />
Rosanne Cahn</p>
<p>*When asked why I switched fields by someone who hadn’t seen me for 30 years, I blurted out: because science is hard and economics is easy. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>His reply:</p>
<blockquote><p>thanks.. I appreciate the note..  agree with you re scientific “process”…   and agree with your other comments, which were<br />
reinforced when I was informed after the event that the AEI people thought it was a crummy talk that didn’t treat them with<br />
enough intellectual dignity.</p>
<p>LMK
</p>
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<p>My rejoinder:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ha. Translation: didn’t agree with their belief system. Knew it. Was very clear in the Qs. You’re braver than most, going into the belly of the beast. (Did you understand what you were getting into in advance?) Good for you.
</p>
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<p>His final:</p>
<blockquote><p>yes.. I am a masochist..  have done fox news too.. :)
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