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The Day has a change of heart:
When The Day endorsed Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman for re-election in November 2006 it was supporting a candidate who demonstrated a history of pragmatic leadership and a willingness to seek bipartisan solutions.
We wonder what happened to that senator.
Sen. Lieberman’s open-ended commitment to military involvement in Iraq comes as no surprise. The senator made it clear when running for re-election that was his position. Sen. Lieberman wants the United States military to remain in Iraq until the war is won, whatever that means. It conflicts with this newspaper’s position that the time has come for a gradual withdrawal of U.S. forces.
Despite that difference of opinion, The Day editorially backed the senator because of his experience, his willingness to put principle above politics, as demonstrated by his condemnation of former President Clinton following the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and his even-handed political approach.
But while Sen. Lieberman remains experienced, he is no longer even-handedly principled.
He seems to be taking delight in poking the leadership of the Democratic Party in the eye. After losing the Democratic primary for Senate in 2006, he had every right to petition his way on the ballot for an independent run. And his decision, after being re-elected, to continue breaking bread with the Democratic Party was a politically expedient decision for both the senator and the party.
With his vote the Democrats took control of the Senate and Sen. Lieberman became chairman of the influential Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. But this has proved a marriage of convenience with the couple sleeping in different rooms.
Sen. Lieberman was quick, and correct to criticize the left-wing group Moveon.org when it ran an attack newspaper advertisement aimed at Gen. David Petraeus, the commanding general in Iraq. Yet he refused to end his association as an adviser to the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, or even utter a word of criticism, when a spin-off group it created ran a series of misleading TV attack ads aimed at Democratic congressmen, including Connecticut’s own representatives, Joe Courtney and Chris Murphy.
Last August when some Democrats in Congress criticized the slow progress of the Iraq government on issues of reform and military readiness, Sen. Lieberman criticized them for “retreating from the real enemies who threaten our vital national interests.” Like the attack advertisements aimed at the congressmen, the criticism unfairly labeled legitimate policy questions raised by Democrats as evidence of weakness on national security.
Meanwhile, the junior Connecticut senator is not only backing the Republican nominee for the presidency, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, but appears to be making a contest of trying to get into every photo and TV news video with him. Perhaps Sen. Lieberman is taking delight in needling the chairman of the Democratic Party, Howard Dean, his 2004 opponent for the presidency, whose leadership he once dismissed as a “ticket to nowhere.”
Rather than building the bridges The Day expected when it endorsed Sen. Lieberman, he appears busy burning bridges with the party of which he is allegedly still a member. Perhaps the senator is positioning himself for a top cabinet post in a McCain presidency. But if the Democrats prevail, and enlarge their control of the Senate, it is hard to imagine this Connecticut senator being welcomed back with open arms.
Hey NARAL, Planned Parenthood…the water’s warm, come on down!
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Thanks for bringing up BillC’s support for Lieberman. I’ve been aching to share this link from the past.
Extra points for irony identification. ;)
In yer face, Joe!
better late than never
Wow, I suppose better late than never but these guys had to be braindead idiots to have ever believed anything (like what they wrote above) ever.
I assume a similar retraction will be forthcoming from the Clinton campaign?
They haven’t made a full recovery yet. Note that they repeat praise for Lieberman for condemning MoveOn’s exercise of First Amendment rights.
Sen. Lieberman was quick, and correct to criticize the left-wing group Moveon.org when it ran an attack newspaper advertisement aimed at Gen. David Petraeus, the commanding general in Iraq.
Any newspaper taking this editorial line has nothing to say of any importance.
he appears busy burning bridges with the party of which he is allegedly still a member.
What a bunch of dumbasses at that paper. Did they not get the memo that he left the party?
Please folks, before we degenerate into Clinton bashing on this thread, remember that both Obama AND Clinton endorsed Lieberman in the primary and that both Obama AND Clinton provided support to Lamont in the general election.
They should apologize to Ned Lamont. What a different world this could be.
Lieberman was a miserable Chickenhawk fuck in 2006, and is a miserable fucking Chickenhawk today. His perverted sense of “bipartisanship” is doing more damage to the country as a whole than helping in any sense.
He’s full of himself, and full of shit which seems to be exactly the same thing. Methinks the “Sore/Loserman” bumperstickers got to him.
And Al Gore winning a Nobel Prize? Could not have been a good night for the Lieberman dog when that was announced.
Now that they can’t do any more damage they try to make good.
Thanks for nuthin’, Day.
Frank Rich:
Well Jane, an invitation to, what’s her name, Nancy Keenan, is way more generous than what I offer. An I told you so, I guess, would be just petty and unproductive, other than relieving pressure from the spleen, perhaps. Still, it is so hard to refrain from triumphalism being 16 friggin months ahead of these people.
Nevertheless, welcome to reality there newspaperdudes! Glad to have you.
Bipartisanship Lieberman style is embracing the most elements of the Republican party that got us into all of the many messes this country is in.
People can post (moderated) comments on that article here:
http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?…..4fe0b05d4f
Never mind that Hillary is taking the same path.
Anyone want to bet? McBush will chose him as a running mate .
I see it in the tea leaves LOL
I double dog dare anyone to find any war Lieberman was against.
How bout the one he was the right age to fight?
Response from this end of the line:
Too little, too late.
Rethugs are already wary of McCain. There’s no way he puts a recently former Democrat on the ticket, especially someone who is not (gasp!) Christian. There would be a widespread revolt.
Barbara Boxer supported Joe, too.
I point this out because I think it is important to recognize that the “rules of the game” are that incumbents of the same party support one another.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz has taken this a step further by all-but endorsing a couple of Republican congressmen rather than the dems running against them.
We need some new rules.
Didn’t he oppose the First Crusade? Nothing since then, though.
Lieberman never served in the military. A spokesperson told The Hartford Courant in 1994 that Lieberman received an educational deferment from the Vietnam War draft when he was an undergraduate and law student from 1960-67. Upon graduating from law school at 25, Lieberman qualified for a family deferment as he was already married and had one child, Matt.[7
Yup. Chickenhawk.
can’t argue with that sentiment
Smaaattt boys like that shouldn’t be wasted in some dumb war. Ask Newt.
Is that something like having “more important priorities?”
That was very kind of Hillary. Most helpful of all, she lent Howard Wolfson to the Lamont campaign.
Wolfson is one of the most brilliant Republican political strategirists of all time.
That still leaves our moronic, booze- and coke-addled future president without an excuse.
Yea, Cheney huh?
There is nothing wrong with blow and booze as long as you quit. You heard it here first.
Irrelevant fish wrapper
Snicker…I mean, foul, not fair. I meant as a politician. Still, I don’t think gooogle covers the battles of the Mongol Hordes.
That explains everything in a nutshell.
I don’t think too little too late. i’m a “better late than never” type generally speaking.
happy & blessed easter to all my fdl friends and acquaintences.
Oh yea, since I care, tell us about the moronic part will ya?
My man and me are out-of-sorts with Mr. Lieberman.
Lahoma
Hiya Jane…
That’s nice.
bird cage liner?
As Exhibit A, I present to you the last seven years….
Big’Ol White Freight Liner
I thought you were taking about Obama!
O/T In honor of chocolate bunnies and peeps…here is the second annual Peeps Diorama Contest
No one can ever call me a quitter.
The President* has promised me some $500.00 and I plan on helping Merika with my munnies. If I spend it at Wal-Mart I help the chinese. If I put a down-payment on a car, I help Japan. If I buy gas, I help the ayrabs. If I buy a computer, I help India. If I buy a bunch of useless shit, I help Taiwan.
I have little choice.
Marlboro’s, Budweiser, Hookers and Indian Casino’s. Hell, it’s all we have anymore.
And what has Joe’s Chairmanship of the committee profited Connecticut, or America? Not much, I’d say. The editorial skips right past Joe’s performance as chairman — his major faults seem to be poking Howard Dean with a stick.
He broke his pledge to investigate Katrina contracting. Combined with his post-primary 2006 fundraising, enterprising journalists ought to look at why Lieberman’s done nothing.
Guy’s a scumbag.
Nope. After all, Obama is a little young for Vietnam.
That’s what happens when I watch hoops and try to be funny on the Lake! What a dumbass I am.
Joe Lieberman is a contemptible morass of political sleaze. And he looks like an evil Muppet.
Just for the sake of argument, that Toyota (or Honda or…) may well have been built in the US and help provide wages for folks here.
Versus the Ford built in Mexico which helps a few families in Grosse Pointe, MI only.
To my dismay, I decided to watch ABC this morning and they (almost as a group) said, despite McSame’s Mid-East gaffes that he is THE candidate that will be glowingly listened to and lovingly looked up to on foreign issues, specifically Ws war.
Their meme will be their love of the maverick and how America must love him in kind. I puked a bit in my mouth. The MSMers are a sick, sick bunch.
I once was happy and I had a good life
I had enough money to last me for life
I met with a gal and we went on a spree
She taught me to smoke and to drink whiskey.
Cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women
They’ll drive you crazy they’ll drive you insane.
Cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women
They’ll drive you crazy they’ll drive you insane.
Cigarettes is a blot on the whole human race.
A man is a monkey with one in his face.
That’s my definition, believe me dear brother,
A fire on one end and a fool on the t’other.
Cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women
They’ll drive you crazy they’ll drive you insane.
Cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women
They’ll drive you crazy they’ll drive you insane.
Write on the cross at the head of my grave
To women and whiskey here lies a poor slave
Take warning dear stranger, take warning dear friend.
They’ll write in big letters these words at my end.
Cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women
They’ll drive you crazy they’ll drive you insane.
Cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women
They’ll drive you crazy they’ll drive you insane.
They’ll drive you crazy they’ll drive you insane.
And Republicans, we are the world’s leading supplier of “for sale” Republicans. Like Joe Lieberman.
Another aspect of this editorial that is really lamebrained is that on the one had they said (going into the 2006 re-election campaign when they supported him) his “open-ended commitment to military involvement in Iraq comes as no surprise” but then later they take issue with him being critical of Democrats and supportive of McCain on the war. What part of this do they not understand? I would be tempted to say that what really pisses them off is that Lieberman was being openly critical of Democrats, but then they go on to say it was OK when he criticized Bill Clinton over Monica Lewinsky. So that isn’t it. Nor are they against the idea of working with Republicans because they actually praise him for that. So I am reduced to assuming that it is really only that Lieberman officially endorsed the Republican McCain. Continuing his crazy warmongering ways, his sanctimonious attacks on Democrats, his backstabbing, well all that they could live with. He could talk like a Republican, act like a Republican, stick it to Democrats like a Republican, he just couldn’t publically endorse one. This is a pretty fine line to draw and I really wonder why they bothered to draw it or what they thought they accomplished in doing so.
Certainly you get my point.
Sorry lol:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..8032102694
They’re just trying to jump on our bandwagon, the posers!
I can’t tell if that is a bad thing.
It is a really, really stupid editorial.
But some nutmeggers will read it, nod — and distance themselves from RGJoe. For that, I suppose, it serves a purpose.
Internally logically consistent, it ain’t.
Peter Sellers and the Muppets
Cigareets
Wheew, began to wonder if that had been taken as confrontational. *g*
It’s gotten to the point that it takes little to set things off at the Lake….which pretty much negates the fun of commenting *and* lurking. It now takes me at least 15 minutes to triple edit what started out as a seemingly simple sentence to try to avoid being the one that threw in the cherry bomb. Proof: this comment was begun immediately after your 28. *g*
Personally, I think it’s a riot the way Joe has become a McCain groupie. Poking his head into every camera shot he can. What a loser!
My Matrix was built in Ontario, one of the main reasons why I bought it.
Gregory @ 8
When i read that ohrase, I came to about the same conclusion. Schizophrenic writing at best.
I can just imagine Peter Sellers playing Joe Lieberman. At last, the man could be made funny.
Lieberman determined to fly McCain into White House
Who could have predicted?
You talkin to me?
My contempt for Joe Lieberman knows no bounds
Where’s punaise, anyway?
?
Juck Loe Fieberman.
Yo Raven.
I wouldn’t put any money on that. I don’t see the Dems saying a word about Short Ride until after the election. That said, I don’t see Reid, if he’s re-elected as Majority Leader, joining any effort to bounce Short Ride from the caucus. My crystal ball sees a hell of an in-caucus fight over Short Ride come December. Which is all negated if he decides to switch parties.
*g* nah, i didn’t take it that way
Awww, c’mon, you don’t get the comment section of the lake. This is where my education really takes place. Say something stupid or ask some painfully obvious question. Firepups will take you to school. Just don’t be all racist and homophobe and stuff.
We reflect on this day what this time brings to us. For us Easter Sunday gives a special glow. It means truth, justice, fairness, a special understanding for those who are in need of a hand up. And most of all, today is a verty special day of understanding and peace.
Lahoma
Yea, I was just be a smart ass. Amazing huh?
ROFLMFAO.
Lieberman has been asleep at the wheel as Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee. He refused to investigate the Katrina debacle. DHS is the worst run department in government and that is saying something with contenders like Justice, the Pentagon, State, EPA, Interior, Labor, HHS, and Lurita’s Doan’s GSA. And Lieberman has done nothing to stop the waste, chaos, and incompetence that permeates it. He’s too busy doing photo-ops with John McCain.
Seconded.
My contempt for Joe Lieberman will never subside, but it does leave room for my growing contempt for Bill Clinton to bloom.
problem with that is they already new about his anti choice escapades, they have nothing new to have their awakening
Double DING!
Apparently even 64 was taken as confrontational despite all attempts otherwise.
Oldfieldguy @ 75 -
I *used* to recognize it; no longer.
*poof*
No, I just didn’t get it?
Kiddo and I rail agsinst the McCain and Bush idea that killing people in foreign lands or anywhere is in the interests of Americans.
Lahoma
Joe Lieberman is really ugly.
It’s kind of sad to see Big Dawg turning into a toothless hound. What a way to blow his legacy, or at least the goodwill people had toward him.
well, well, well …….. the homies have their knives out, Lieberwurst. better hope Mcstain’s coattails are up to the strain.
Inside and out, through and through.
his mom prob’ly wore combat boots ……
Contribution to Obama’s campaign??
Good for the newspaper. Glad when people can admit their wrongs.
What a sad day to have this discussion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-SkPWe7MU
Lahoma
I still remember when. And Jane never looked so good. Perhaps some firepups do not recognize her as a superhero?
i’ve just been lost over there being entertained with the peep show.
OT-BBQ
that is great. brightens my day.
Punaise is taking a break. (until after the primary?)
hahahaha
Meat solutions plant? That sounds all natural and yummy like (not)
Thanks, I didn’t know, our loss.
practising your chinese?
Which primary?
OT-NYT’s
That many incumbent DINO’s supported Lieberman, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz refusing to stump for Florida Democratic Candidates, once again shows, to me at least, there in only one party inside the beltway, the Incumbents party.
Democratic primary. I asked about him a couple of weeks ago, and folks said that he said he was taking a break for a while. For some reason I got the impression that he didn’t like the arguments about our candidate.
Yikes, that’s a long break. I miss him.
Of course it is hoped no one was hurt but something like this will effect the workers of the plant. Not a good thing at all.
In reply to your reply to oilfield guy at 48 – Obama & Clinton have plenty of dough – thus freeing up all we firepups to choose donating to FDL instead. That’s my story and am sticking to it. ;~)
I’m sorry, you must mean Pennsylvania.
Me too! He’s got a special gift with language, doesn’t he?
engrish.
Well, I suppose when Clinton gives it up.
Kiddo and I firmly believe, like it or not, that on this day, particularly, regardless of religion, or none, the Holy Mother smiles on all progressives.
Lahoma.
of course my first thought is that of the workers there but that a meat plant would even be prone to explosions says alot about how we process our food and what we are ingesting
What’s in a meat plant to explode? The cattle prods? Too sad.
True enough concerning what goes into tofood these days. I supect the ammonia gas is used in the refrigeration units.
Uh oh! I know someone living very close to that area.
Gotta go see if she’s ok.
The editorial does not apologize for endorsing Lieberman. It merely regrets the imaginary recent slide of a senator of imaginary merit.
Con down. You are bad.
Chuck Todd admits that if either Clinton or Obama had screwed up the Iran/al Queda talking point, it would have been a huge problem and on a continual media loop.
False alarm. She’s in Alabama.
rotsa ruck
John McCain is betting big on Iraq
….
Before the war, McCain predicted a quick and easy victory, not a vicious insurgency. He issued dire warnings about Saddam Hussein’s supposed weapons of mass destruction but didn’t read the full 2002 National Intelligence Estimate that showed gaps in the intelligence.
….
In 1998, he was among the cosponsors of the Iraq Liberation Act. The law set “regime change” in Baghdad as U.S. policy and mandated support to opposition groups seeking to overthrow the dictator.
Among the major beneficiaries was the Iraqi National Congress, a London-based exile group headed by Ahmed Chalabi.
Ahhhh, the memories.
I love you no shit
You buy me drink?
LOL. I like the earlier reference in this thread to Lieberman as an evil Muppet.
Love you long time
you havo MPC? no pi
solly, no speakee engrish.
Well, this just goes to show why he should be taken seriously on foreign affairs. It’s not being right but wrong that counts.
That’s cause you live in Tx.
You go short time?
I have greenback.
Takes me back to my days in the Navy (84-88). Many nights in Olongapo City (RP) Every sailor name Joe… “Hey Joe!” “Fie Dolla!”
;~P
Still 5 in 84,damn!
Greenback numba one.
I used to get $100 before leaving the ship (five $20’s), keep one for myself, take the short walk on the bridge over shit river… call to the children diving for pisos and give the first four $20 each and tell them to take it to thier family. San Miguels were about 5 piso each, so I’d still have enough to get a good buzz on. Those were the days.
Yup, ammonia is a refrigerant.
The Day editorially backed the senator because of his experience, his willingness to put principle above politics, as demonstrated by his condemnation of former President Clinton following the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and his even-handed political approach.
The Day Editora are truly laughable. They commend Liarman for his principles on the Clinton blow job scandle but pat him in the back for going along with a lying, murdering, traitorous administration who’s single handedly destroyed our country. The stupid really burns. Do they see how completly ridiculous this is?
True enough but you see, Obama, the Magic Man was not wrong when he did that. He was supporting his good friend and mentor against the DFHs, whom he truly despises, which ‘good friend’ in the spirit of Unity08! he will appoint to SCOTUS if elected and given the chance.
Supreme Court Justice ‘Short Ride Joe’…..got a ring to it does it not?
I think Al Gore answered that one.
Agree but Boxer is rarely called a DINO.
But while Sen. Lieberman remains experienced, he is no longer even-handedly principled.
Holy Joe was *never* “even-handedly principled.” One person I talked to who knew him as AG said Joe was always full of it.
The senator made it clear when running for re-election that was his position. Sen. Lieberman wants the United States military to remain in Iraq until the war is won, whatever that means.
Clear to who?!? Because *noone* wanted to “end the war” more than Torture Joe back then.
Yet he refused to end his association as an adviser to the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, or even utter a word of criticism, when a spin-off group it created ran a series of misleading TV attack ads aimed at Democratic congressmen, including Connecticut’s own representatives, Joe Courtney and Chris Murphy.
At least they mention this. That’s good.
I don’t think this article is quite the mea culpa it should be, but it’s a start.