But that’s not how it works. The ongoing bailout of the financial system by the Federal Reserve underscores the extent to which financial barons socialize the costs of private bets gone bad. Not a week goes by that the Fed doesn’t inaugurate a new way to provide liquidity — meaning money — to the financial system. Bear Stearns isn’t enormous. It doesn’t take deposits from the public. Yet the Fed believed that letting it implode could unleash a domino effect among other banks, and the Fed provided a $30 billion guarantee for JPMorgan to snap it up.
Compared to the cold shoulder given to struggling homeowners, the cash and attention lavished by the government on the nation’s financial titans provides telling insight into the priorities of the Bush administration. It’s not simply a matter of fairness, though. The Fed is probably right to be doing all it can think of to avoid worse damage than the economy is already suffering. But if the objective is to encourage prudent banking and keep Wall Street’s wizards from periodically driving financial markets over the cliff, it is imperative to devise a remuneration system for bankers that puts more of their skin in the game.
This morning, Krugman managed to encapsulate the feel of all of this in a few sentences:
The financial crisis currently under way is basically an updated version of the wave of bank runs that swept the nation three generations ago. People aren’t pulling cash out of banks to put it in their mattresses — but they’re doing the modern equivalent, pulling their money out of the shadow banking system and putting it into Treasury bills. And the result, now as then, is a vicious circle of financial contraction.
Who gets squeezed in the tightening financial circles of hell? Everyone -- even the golden parachute crowd isn't immune, they just feel it a little less on the front edge of the wave. Stirling had a fantastic piece the other day laying out all the possibilities that is well worth a read to contemplate what we could be seeing long-term. I suppose we can all keep living off the luxury tourist dole until things turn around...but wouldn't we be better off contemplating just how we got into this mess, and how not to get back into it in the future next time around?
Contrary to the Gordon Gekko philosophy, it seems to me that unchecked greed just keeps getting us all into a world of shit. Isn't it high time we learned that lesson?
(From Wall Street, YouTube of the "greed is good" speech...)
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hi christy!
Dos. I can’t say as I know a single soul who is buying T-bills. I like Krugman. I guess he and I run in different circles. Most people I know are tightening their belts.
((((( Christy )))))
Citigroup’s new Chief got $216 Million for coming on board … that alone shows why Corporations get into so much trouble … Link
hi, christy! Where is everybody? I’m going to lean back and relax. Finally after 9 plus months, I have a good offer on my house. I need to take my money and run…
Off to Paraguay?
I’m no economy wonk, but it sounds to me like we need three things: regulation, enforcement, and stiff penalties. If you let the greedy do whatever they want, they naturally go too far.
I’ve always told my friends and family that GOP is english for greed. They’ve had no reason to doubt my definition.
As far as the Bear Sterns/JPMorgan deal, is it a done deal? Are there any other entities (besides shareholders of Bear Sterns) that are against this?
Things need fixing, but nothing will be done so long as Republics have any power.
Hi Christy!
“Greed is good”–Gordon Gekko…/snark
I agree
That goes without saying. But thanks for saying it anyway.
ARGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH what is happening to the world to day
Are your going to rent or own the next place?
Hmmm. Hope this doesn’t double post. Prior submission seems to have disapppeard in the gullet of the toobz.
Went to see the movie with my son when he was about 7 years old. During the scene in the limo, he pipes up: Mommy, why is she pulling down his zipper? Giggles & suppressed guffahs all around.
Tax the rich til there ain’t no more rich.
I’m buying st*cks. One I sold last year for $12 that paid a 6 percent dividend is on sale for $6.50 and pays a twelve and a half percent dividend. I bought some of that one yesterday. FYI, Warren Buffet said he liked Hillary or Obama for President (about eight months ago). Haven’t heard anything from him recently. He would not commit to either candidate at that time. He said that he donated the maximum amount to the campaign of each.
Avarice is always poor. Samuel Johnson
There has been no effort to put any limits on the hedge funds who did so much to create this mess and are now busily doing the same in the commodities markets.
I have said before there needs to be a grand settlement on this that addresses homeowners and financial markets, bails both out and penalizes both. All of these bandaids on financial markets does not solve the underlying problem of this crisis or prevent its re-occurrence.
While I am at let me repeat bubbles are not something that sneak up on financial markets. They can be seen literally years before they burst. That the markets and the government did not move to head this one off is because they did not want to. Think about that. They knew what could happen anytime between 2000 and 2003. They saw it happening from 2004 to 2007, and they did nothing. Nothing. What does that tell you?
My girls *suddenly* grew up and moved out. I’m turning that wing of the house into an apartment. I think the cost will be returned withing 13 months. We do what we must.
it’s a feature, not a bug.
LOL. Do you remind him of it?
Exactly
Speaking of greed, why can’t this happen at an ATM near me…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag.....to=newsnow
Here in Florida they are preparing to layoff prosecutors and public defenders. Sunshine, here, but no money. Would be interested from Christy or anyone who has worked in the field, has this happened in other states?
BSC is not a done deal. Its been traded heavily in the vicinity of 4 to 6 dollars per share. Wednesday it hit $8.50! (then quickly sank back to five(ish). Its paying a 32-35 percent dividend. Shareholders are saying that they will not cooperate with the deal at $2 per share. My guess is that they will when the time comes.
I’ll tell the story at his wedding if he ever gets married (which seems doubtful). *g*
OT, but on the subject of Bear Stearns, they’ve called in grief counselors for their employees. Or former employees.
link
shades of Enron
Looking for a bungalow that I can afford since I have to split the proceeds with my ex (shucks). Probably a handy-woman special.
My luck never seems to run that way, either, CTuttle. I’d be more likely to get half!
The entire financial industry needs to have a modernized set of regulations established and a mechanism set up to enforce them which should include a clear definition of the roles of the Fed, the SEC, and the bank regulators .
Also, it needs to be explained to the Fed that its job is not to protect the industry from malfeasance but to prosecute whenever it occurs. Let the bad apples fail. It’s a good object lesson for the survivors.
Thanks. No congressman or senator is questioning this?
Perhaps the first human thing they have ever done. Went for an interview there (around 1990). The receptionist yelled at me, my interviewer kept me waiting for 45 minutes, and I never heard back. That treatment was completely in keeping with the firm’s reputation, and not at all personal to me. Gave me a chuckle. Sorry for employees, but as for the firm, good riddance to bad rubbish.
How magnamious of them. I’m sure they would rather have their jobs/money
No grandkids in your future? They say a lot of genes skip one generation. They could be really liberal!
Heh, If i was so fortunate I would sock it away in my mattress… All $40…! ;-)
no, not good. and neither is bad hair. (wash that grease outta your hair, gecko.)
Surely this happened because the hedge funds asked for it.
From Wikipedia:
The Uptick rule is a former financial regulations rule, relating to the trading of securities in the United States. The rule was eliminated by the SEC, effective July 6, 2007.
It means you can short stocks without waiting for an uptick.
PS Best of Luck with the house hunt, JPL9!
And where were the congressional committees on banking etc. during their watch? I don’t think we can let the democrats get a free ride on this.
Hugh, you are 100 percent correct on all points. There has been no regulation to curtail the “trading actions” that are causing the problems. How about that Cramer! They got him dead to rights on video telling (shouting at) a concerned shareholder that BSC was solid and that he should keep his position and quit worrying.
did you by any chance listen/watch/read democracy now!’s excellent program yesterday on BSC with Nomi Prins and Max Fraad Wolff?
here’s a bit of it:
I would really like to thank Bill Clinton for that fateful act… One reason , I’m leery of Hill…! 8-(
i don’t either. I would like to know about what would have happen ahd they let it go belly up as opposed to the bail out.
Is anyone (congress critter) asking?
From Wiki…
NAFTA, too. that’s why many (like me) concur that Bill Clinton was the best Republican President we ever had.
Cramer was wrong about Bear, but so were all the people who bought on Friday just before the Takeunder of the Century. The CEO was on the air saying things were alright on Wednesday.
That not withstanding, they do always find a way to blame Clinton.
Not sure I’d want anyone to bring a child into this world. Interestingly, that’s how I felt until a bit before I had my son (A-bomb drills in elementary school does not inspire confidence in the future.) Changed my mind, but now have changed it back again.
Heh, well the most compassionate of the lot, eh? ;-)
Cramer was screaming about that last night on CNBC when I flipped thru. I think that’s really bad but have emails into a couple of colleagues about it.
You know both Obama and clinton are taking money from hedge funds for their campaigns
Right. And the SEC is not going to go after the SOB for lying to the public about Bear.
Going to send an emails to my NY senators thanking them for tax welfare to hedge funds while poor & middle class homeowners are losing theirs. I’ll ask them if they’re proud of their work. /snark.
This is a shocking investigation by the LA Times about immigrant car wash workers who are forced to work not for minimum wage but for nothing, only tips given to them by car wash customers which they must share among the other employees. The money they share from pooling the tips average $10 to $15 per day.
The car wash owners are happy to pay fines imposed on them by the government in lieu of having any payroll. Very few fines are imposed on these businesses because of the lack of government inspectors, poor book keeping, and the owners holding the employees in fear of losing their jobs if they tell the truth to government authorized inspectors. Unchecked greed through unregulation seem to run the gambut in our society.
Watching Big Dog on KO and all I can think is—it’s over Bill. There will be no dynasty. Get used to living in NY.
I love these insider-y reports!
Yes, that says a lot about them.
I bet they had a syrupy “mission statement,” though.
Oh this is something:
link
Why is Bill Clinton’s hair blue?
If that isn’t criminal it should be.
n/k dems are in bed with the Street too
That’s why I can’t get too excited about either of our choices. It’s all about the SCOTUS for me.
Not sure if I read your comment correctly, but if I did, I would just urge caution. Once you rent to someone (if that’s what you meant), you are subject to all the laws that apply to landlords. You can’t just evict someone if they don’t pay (or if they damage your property). Most states have a rather lengthy eviction process you have to go through after they first fall short on the rent.
Re: The Uptick rule? That’s funny, Cramer is upset about it now at this late date? AFAIK, I never heard him complain about it before. Rumor has it that Cramer made his money shorting stocks. Any Day Trader worth his salt knows how to play both sides - short and long. The market has been a short player’s game since the uptick rule was repealed.
Yes, I think that James Cayne has a lock for this year’s Ken Lay Memorial Award for Corporate Mendacity.
same here
Best go here and see who Senator ‘Hopey’ hangs with…..
Not a lot to chose there, eh?
This in on the Boston Globe feed:
How many ways can we find to say obstruction of justice?
Cramer made his money running a hedge fund, but retired, all that means is he knows more stocks than most people on the financial channels.
Inevitably, if the human species is to survive with dignity and some reasonable modicum of ‘comfort’, there must come a time when the fearfully wealthy simply must no longer be allowed to mortgage or despoil the ‘assets of life’ which rightfully ‘belong’ to everyone. Those now here and those not yet born …
That sounds like Rush Limbaugh’s Market Taking care of itself. The earth heals itself too. But a limp d*ck needs a little help.
My linkie did’nt work. This story is well worth reading folks. It’s not just greed, it is human slavery out in the open in our own country.
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-.....2975.story
If i hear a reference to partying like it’s 1929 again, I’m going to heave
I hold the opposite opinion. I think Obama is an excellent candidate and Clinton is a very good candidate.
Day Traders forget the rule when greed overcomes them. Something similar happened to Gordon Gekko.
try this one
That’s interesting! Did they also say who ordered them to be destroyed? They don’t self-destruct. The web is twisting in the wind.
I really wish I could feel that way but I don’t. Both of them are just too enmeshed in the corpo system to make me feel comfortable. If they weren’t, the corpo media wouldn’t have let them get this far.
Chris Wallace imploded…supporting Obama
Brian Kilmead (FOX) walked off the set…
Scarborough admitted that he’s paid to play the redneck…
Hmmm…I wonder if they’ve just all had their butts handed to them by the terrible Bushco economy and Obama’s honesty about racial tension…they know we need a change…I’m not saying Obama..I’m saying change…because I don’t want to take sides…Bushco is the culprit…Faux news is bailing on Bushco….Down with Bushco!!
1,788 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen CTuttle and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
“…One reason I’m leery of Hill…”
Yes, and that’s why this long primary campaign is so important…the longer it goes on, the more people learn and understand that Mrs.Clinton-McCain is not a Democrat and is not capable of sacrificing her own ambition for the common good. The next President is gunna hafta take a Democratic majority and launch the country into the 21st century out of the greatest economic and social mess the country has ever seen. That’s gunna take leadership and partisanship not unlike that exhibited by FDR in 1932-33…takin’ a “third way”, corporatist, triangulating political approach to the greatest crisis since the Revolution will doom our country to 50 years or more of the “dark ages”.
The people of this country today are as afraid for their economic survival as were the folks in 1932 and even more than in 1932 the solutions lie in a new consensus that takes us beyond race and gender to class based actions in the face of overwhelming monopoly power. I ask all the Clinton-McCain folks out there to answer the question: “Is Mrs. Clinton capable of forging the coalitions of common people to confront the corporate power that stands between the people and renewed prosperity?”
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, FEAR IS JUST A WORD BUT DEMOCRACY IS A WAY OF LIFE!!
*sigh* I wanted Edwards or even DK…
nope.
Well, that’s interesting. If McCain is just more BushCo, then what they got?
Do you have a linkie for this?
i like the way david sirota puts it (my bold):
color me suh-prahzed
F*ckery, sheer F*ckery…!
She is not keeping any better company (per your link)
Just standard operating procedure for these crooks.
Nothing new here.
me too.
but, really, i don’t think there is any way to know. the people and the process are just too opaque to get a good handle on it, imo. that’s one reason i’m still surprised to read/hear people who are so sure about their take on the candidates.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/.....a-bashing/
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....a-bashing/
Well, i’m going to go drink beer & suk dem heads and tails. Nighterz!
Norske, If they don’t offer a ‘New Deal’ those gated communities will be pillaged and plundered…!
And this…Jon Stewart..the first five years is a must see:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....ive-years/
1,788 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen RevDeb:
“How many ways can we find to say obstruction of justice?”
Mr. President Bush meet Mr. Representative Conyers.
Hey Nancy Pelosi, sompthin jest jumped back up on the table better get yer sorry ass back in there.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, FASCISTS WON’T GO WITHOUT A FIGHT!!
Agree
Nooo… Not mud bugs…! Enjoy! ;-)
She’s with the Dali Lama.
IMO another layer of the danger we are in is the failure of the credit rating agencies.
I’m just pondering if they trusted the Admin. and trusted the talking points, and then now…they might be losing money on the economy…hit the hacks in the pocket book…wonders happen..
I have never stated that I have a whole take on my candidate (as this is my third at bat) but there are some things that I like about this candidate and that is the basis for my selection. As far as I can tell, there will never be a perfect candidate for me and I’m not looking for one rather one that is perfectly superior to the asshat we have now
I am hoping Congress
ripsholds SEC chair Chris Cox accountable. We actually pay the SEC to prevent meltdowns.Yes.
I checked the mushrooms and they were fine. Perhaps, you might consider making checking your ludifisk.
Yup..all “unsecured” credit is..well…”unsecured”…there is no there, there.
Tax payers get to bail these bastards out of their criminal schemes to screw people out of their money and homes but tens of thousands will lose their homes. It’s bullshit on a grand scale.
What a treat. I’m listening to classical musical and they are playing Nessun Dorma by Puccini. It is so fulfilling to hear the artists side of civilization rather than the capitalistic greed side. It’s amazing what money can’t produce!
Dick Cheney does’nt want anyone to know he was the acting president between 2003 and 2005.
In India! I met the Dali Lama once, when he visited the Buddhist temple/sanctuary here on the Big Isle, powerful aura and charisma…! 8-)
I saw him at Emory. He said “I feel as if I am preaching to the choir”!
Maybe he’ll tell her to take action.
Me also….but right at this minute…..
Anybody looks better than McSame and that is what yer gonna get if Senator ‘SnakeOil’ gets the nod.
I never would have believed it but Obama’s makin’ me a Hill supporter. She’s a lot less likely to shoot herself in the foot I do believe.
Obama’s runnin’ out a’ toes.
Agreed. I didn’t meet him but went to an event for him at Brandeis about 10 years ago. You really could feel the aura.
Thanks, I’ll be really careful on the credit and background check.
It’s really very simple. The seed corn is gone. The wealth didn’t trickle down, it was siphoned up. Has anyone asked what the Fed is charging JP Moran Chase in interest for this “loan?”