Comments on: The Spin I’m In: From Baghdad to Big Shoulders http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:19:25 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350360 dmac Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:33:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350360 <p>and ls-forgot to add, i can’t handle anything red…..have gotten better……..it electrifies me, zing.</p> <p>best friends favorite color?</p> <p>red……</p> <p>that’s how i know about the ’red’ thing, we’ve discussed it for years, she’s an art teacher…..and told me to use more red. said i can’t…….zings me. don’t llike what it expresses, but i tried playing with it……it has it’s own purpose, to zing!</p> and ls-forgot to add, i can’t handle anything red…..have gotten better……..it electrifies me, zing.

best friends favorite color?

red……

that’s how i know about the ’red’ thing, we’ve discussed it for years, she’s an art teacher…..and told me to use more red. said i can’t…….zings me. don’t llike what it expresses, but i tried playing with it……it has it’s own purpose, to zing!

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350349 dmac Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:29:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350349 <p>ls at 139–” </p> <p>>You are correct. Underpainting (in classical painting) establishes the tonal values…</p> <p>======foundation</p> <p>>I use a combination of classical techniques (because I’m addicted to old medium formulas) but I am very focused on texture and color and most of all breaking any rule my mind tries to tell me not to…</p> <p>=====know the rules so that you can break them with clarity</p> <p>so that can get really wild…I want to be surprised and allow the chaos and the subconscious to takeover..</p> <p>===yeah</p> <p>>until I get a reaction that is not a “word”…more likely a sound or an emotion. The hardest thing I ever did was to paint with “reds”</p> <p>======red is emotional, so, is hard to do…..picking up on a ’word’ or a ’sound’ or ’emotion’ in the ’receiving’ mode is a quiet thing, red emotes, so, is harder to quell to express</p> <p>>…Now, I love it, but I found that I had a problem with it initially years ago. Also, I used to buck any tendency to start “representing” something…now not so much.</p> <p>=====any form of expression represents SOMETHING, finding or understanding your voice, and where it’s coming from probably got you over that. </p> <p>(i’m assuming. in all of it, in a creative kinda way)</p> <p>>I love Rothko and de Kooning.</p> <p>=======nice.</p> <p>hmmmmmmm, never can name favorites, never could, i’m rare, i know. they change.</p> <p>email is proxima123 at frognet dot net</p> <p>my best friend has a paper artist site that is outta this world, but can’t remember his name right now.</p> ls at 139–”

>You are correct. Underpainting (in classical painting) establishes the tonal values…

======foundation

>I use a combination of classical techniques (because I’m addicted to old medium formulas) but I am very focused on texture and color and most of all breaking any rule my mind tries to tell me not to…

=====know the rules so that you can break them with clarity

so that can get really wild…I want to be surprised and allow the chaos and the subconscious to takeover..

===yeah

>until I get a reaction that is not a “word”…more likely a sound or an emotion. The hardest thing I ever did was to paint with “reds”

======red is emotional, so, is hard to do…..picking up on a ’word’ or a ’sound’ or ’emotion’ in the ’receiving’ mode is a quiet thing, red emotes, so, is harder to quell to express

>…Now, I love it, but I found that I had a problem with it initially years ago. Also, I used to buck any tendency to start “representing” something…now not so much.

=====any form of expression represents SOMETHING, finding or understanding your voice, and where it’s coming from probably got you over that.

(i’m assuming. in all of it, in a creative kinda way)

>I love Rothko and de Kooning.

=======nice.

hmmmmmmm, never can name favorites, never could, i’m rare, i know. they change.

email is proxima123 at frognet dot net

my best friend has a paper artist site that is outta this world, but can’t remember his name right now.

]]> By: LCactus7 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350332 LCactus7 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:20:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350332 <p>Guys, that’s it, I’m off too! It was cool and interresting (again) and I’m pleased to meet you Elliot and Dmac and and and…all of you guys! See you next week here or on myspace…<br /> A cool week-end to you guys, full of chocolate! :-***************</p> Guys, that’s it, I’m off too! It was cool and interresting (again) and I’m pleased to meet you Elliot and Dmac and and and…all of you guys! See you next week here or on myspace…
A cool week-end to you guys, full of chocolate! :-***************

]]> By: LCactus7 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350306 LCactus7 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:08:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350306 <p>I guess Donita is gone :-(<br /> But she’ll be back in a week :-)<br /> Have a great week-end GREAT Donita, take care :-**************</p> I guess Donita is gone :-(
But she’ll be back in a week :-)
Have a great week-end GREAT Donita, take care :-**************

]]> By: LS http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350303 LS Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:07:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350303 <p>You are correct. Underpainting (in classical painting) establishes the tonal values…</p> <p>I use a combination of classical techniques (because I’m addicted to old medium formulas) but I am very focused on texture and color and most of all breaking any rule my mind tries to tell me not to…so that can get really wild…I want to be surprised and allow the chaos and the subconscious to takeover..until I get a reaction that is not a “word”…more likely a sound or an emotion. The hardest thing I ever did was to paint with “reds”…Now, I love it, but I found that I had a problem with it initially years ago. Also, I used to buck any tendency to start “representing” something…now not so much.</p> <p>I love Rothko and de Kooning.</p> You are correct. Underpainting (in classical painting) establishes the tonal values…

I use a combination of classical techniques (because I’m addicted to old medium formulas) but I am very focused on texture and color and most of all breaking any rule my mind tries to tell me not to…so that can get really wild…I want to be surprised and allow the chaos and the subconscious to takeover..until I get a reaction that is not a “word”…more likely a sound or an emotion. The hardest thing I ever did was to paint with “reds”…Now, I love it, but I found that I had a problem with it initially years ago. Also, I used to buck any tendency to start “representing” something…now not so much.

I love Rothko and de Kooning.

]]> By: LCactus7 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350298 LCactus7 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:04:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350298 <p>Oh thank you Dmac, it’s cool, I’m a little surprised ’cause my english sux (sooo restricted) and I’m a little down now (it’s 1.04 pm here) but it’s kind… :-*</p> Oh thank you Dmac, it’s cool, I’m a little surprised ’cause my english sux (sooo restricted) and I’m a little down now (it’s 1.04 pm here) but it’s kind… :-*

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350295 dmac Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:02:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350295 <p>Lcactus–you say other things that are eloquent, thanks.</p> Lcactus–you say other things that are eloquent, thanks.

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350293 dmac Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:00:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350293 <p>ls at 88-”It was incredible. I paint as well, and I tend to “intend” to stay within monotones sometimes when I start a painting (because I love minimalism), but when the “magic” happens when I’m painting…they all end up with strong colors and texture….funny how that happens…I’m not a minimalist I guess.”</p> <p>ls-you’re doing a process that works for you that is similar to underpainting, another process…..</p> <p>==========<br /> and millenery manat 57–” I love color also, however I always seem to gravitate to black and white, and shades of gray if it presents itself as an option.”</p> <p>—it was always pounded into my brain that white, grey/gray, and black ARE colors. and got corrected every time i said anything else.</p> <p>and i was told that once you learn to paint with only black and white paint, then you know how to paint. then you go to color. it’s true.</p> <p>so, you must have that ’down’.<br /> =========</p> ls at 88-”It was incredible. I paint as well, and I tend to “intend” to stay within monotones sometimes when I start a painting (because I love minimalism), but when the “magic” happens when I’m painting…they all end up with strong colors and texture….funny how that happens…I’m not a minimalist I guess.”

ls-you’re doing a process that works for you that is similar to underpainting, another process…..

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and millenery manat 57–” I love color also, however I always seem to gravitate to black and white, and shades of gray if it presents itself as an option.”

—it was always pounded into my brain that white, grey/gray, and black ARE colors. and got corrected every time i said anything else.

and i was told that once you learn to paint with only black and white paint, then you know how to paint. then you go to color. it’s true.

so, you must have that ’down’.
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]]> By: tigerpantss http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350291 tigerpantss Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:00:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350291 <p>very true, donita ROCKS!!</p> very true, donita ROCKS!!

]]> By: LCactus7 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350282 LCactus7 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:56:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/the-spin-im-in-from-baghdad-to-big-shoulders/#comment-1350282 <p>It smells a little “the begining of the end” for this week, eh guys? Guys?!…</p> It smells a little “the begining of the end” for this week, eh guys? Guys?!…

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