the only survivors of armageddon are supposed to be the true believers .. and there are several religions who claim to be among .. or “the one”..

fact is .. for the soecond comers to get their dream .. about eight and half billion people will have to be eliminated from the face of the earth .. yeah ..eight-and-one-half-billion people … whoa …

what sane person would be willing to sacrifice eight-and-one-half-billion people in order to acheive their “paradise on earth”

hell ..even the radical-islamo-muslims aren’t that crazy … their goal is to first convert the whole world to their religion .. then establish a caliphate bringing sharia law to every nation on earth ..thereby turning it into paradise-on-earth .. which is pretty far out in and of itself i admit .. but they aren’t openly wishing for .. nor willingly working to bring about ..nor fanatically enamoured of an event which would require the slaughter of ..that’s right ..there oms that number again .. eight-and-a-half-billion people ..

thank ya kindly .. but my gawd is not nearly that bloody and murderous …

and most amazingly .. we give credence to these born again mass-murder-on-an-unheard-of-scale adherents ..

i gotta go .. i’ve used up today’s allotment of hypens and periods ..

speaking of the WT 25th gala…

Another of the thousands of things about Moon people ignore is that Bush 41 drank Moon’s “Holy Wine.” He participated in a Moon ritual, one of the two most important – which ties you to Moon’s “lineage.”

41 was not conned into it as some may say. He did it willingly AFTER he was told by a Moon preacher that by drinking it he would doing similar to taking Moon’s communion, that he would be making Bush’s “a Blessed Family for America.” That means you are accepting and willing to promote Moon’s agenda. Being a “Blessed Family” is a short step below being a “Blessed Central Family” which means a full fledged dues paying Moonie.

see the video here:

http://realsunmyungmoon.blogsp…..myung.html

Subvert? Sound too harsh? Not my word…

James Whelan the first editor of the Washington Times, in a 1991 “must view” panel discussion about Moon’s media, said this – a quote from it which ALL of the people who have or intend to help Moon should read very closely. It may be the most cogent statement about the Moon organization I have ever read.

http://tinyurl.com/yqqbmz (link to google vid that you may have to copy and paste as links are acting up for me)

“They (the Moonies) are subverting our political system. They’re doing it through front organizations–most of them disguised–and through their funding of independent organizations–through the placement of volunteers in the inner sanctums of hard-pressed organizations. In every instance–in every instance–those who attend their conferences, those who accept their money or their volunteers, delude themselves that there is no loss of virtue because the Moonies have not proselytized. That misses the central, crucial point: the Moonies are a political movement in religious clothing. Moon seeks power, not the salvation of souls. To achieve that, he needs religious fanatics as his palace guard and shock troops. But more importantly, he needs secular conscripts–seduced by money, free trips, free services, seemingly endless bounty and booty–in order to give him respectability and, with it, that image of influence which translates as power.”

Conservatives and the Republican Party worked with Moon – the theocrat – to tear down the wall between church and state. They did this when they helped Bush promote his Faith Based Vote Buying Scheme.

Read it here:

http://tinyurl.com/398qr

The “faith-based summit” itself was sponsored by Watts (R-Okla.), Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) and other top congressional Republicans, but efforts to promote it at the grassroots level were turned over to a Moon organization.

Why is the Republican Party working hand in glove with Moon front groups? The partnership stems largely from Moon’s phenomenal ability to make inroads in GOP and Religious Right circles. Despite his unorthodox theological views Moon teaches that he is the new Messiah, sent by God to complete the failed mission of Jesus Moon has had little difficulty penetrating the upper echelons of American conservatism.

Moon calls what he does “subjugation” – we appear to be going willingly or “naturally.”

No doubt conservtaives are helping Moon subvert our political system.

U.S News and World Report March 27, 1989
Rev. Moon’s Rising Political Influence
His empire is spending big money trying to win favor with conservatives.

On New Year’s Day, 1987, South Korean mystic Sun Myung Moon, who considers himself to be the son of God, told his Unification church followers that he wanted to expand the church’s political influence in the United States. His aim, Moon said, was “the natural subjugation of the American government and population.” […]

(The Unification)the church has established a network of affiliated organizations and connections in almost every conservative organization in Washington, including the Heritage Foundation, the largest of the conservative think tanks and an important source of government personnel during the Reagan administration. […]

As the Washington Times has become the voice of capital conservatives, the Heritage Foundation has become far more tolerant of church ties. […]

The Unification Church’s newfound influence has occasioned intense debate among conservatives. One group of worried young conservatives meets regularly in private to compare notes about the problem. But little of the debate has surfaced in public forums. “Most people are afraid to address the issue because they don’t want to publicize the extent of the church’s involvement,” says Amy Moritz of the Conservative National Center for Public Policy Research.,/strong.

Because almost all conservative organizations in Washington have some ties to the church, conservatives also fear repercussions if they expose the church’s role. That happened when one organization, the Capital Research Center, published a newsletter last November warning of the church’s attempt to create a “centralized world theocracy.” One of its board members, who was also on the board of the International Security Council, resigned in protest, and conservatives charging that the paper was creating discord on the right, besieged the center with angry calls. “We got a very, very strong reaction — almost as if we were the enemy — because we raised the issue,” says CRC Chairman Willa Johnson, a former president of the Heritage Foundation.

Absent Moon’s conditioning billions in overseas, often swindled, cash
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…../94/234851

…the Republican Party would have never nominated someone like Bush 43. Moon created the environment for this to happen.

Moon has more to do with the political direction of the United States the last 30 years than anyone. It is not close if you look.

Scaife is said to have given 3 to 400 million to the Conservative movement over the last 45 years – maybe a billion in today’s dollars. Moon spent 3 billion on the Washington Times alone in 25 years.

It’s an issue which is exemplary of how the media is NOT liberal. It is not even knowledgeable about how we got where we are today politically.

Moon brags about using the WT to influence the nation.

Here’s one for you – if people really look at the Moon organization, see how they “debate.” You will see that today’s conservative rationalizes and makes excuses for evil and lawbreaking the same way a Moon follower does. They relate just like moonies to the world. Always feeling they are being persecuted, always thinking they and they alone are going God’s will, the “us vs. them” stuff….the whole thing is all there.

Moon made today’s conservatism into his image. Homophobic, authoritarian, theocractic, and fascist with no regard for the law.

Should note: Moon does not believe in “churches” or “religion” – he thinks there should be no religion now because we are to all follow him as the leader of the Kingdom of God/Moon which they call “Cheon Il Guk.”

But she can deny being a “member” of the Unification Church the same as Moon himself could do – for the “church” was disbanded and renamed the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification(FFWPU) – which makes it easier for other religions and people to work with Moon – they can rationalize they are not Moon followers but just working with the “federation.” In fact they are his unwitting and witting chumps.

Shiner also claimed to not have anymore contact with the “church.” Yet when she went to work for Bush at the State Department she had as her senior adviser, a long time and still moonie.

Read some of that here. Embedding Links not working here it is:

http://www.innercitypress.com/wfp110606.html

It should also be noted that Shiner was not just some regular moonie, she was integral to his media. Many think she actually ran the paper not Pruden and that she gave Moon the idea to start the paper in the first place.

here’s a quote from former member who entertained Moon around the world.

Link to this comment by Craig Maxim addressing a current follower of Moon’s: My link embedding is not working here it is

http://tinyurl.com/yq6srn

I have, on several occasions, been allowed to sit in on Korean Regional Leaders meetings, and other such high level meetings Moon has lead. I watched him direct activities these companies would go in. I watched the Korean leaders ask Moon about certain purchases, etc.. And what Moon told them to do, is done. I have watched Josette Shiner come and give a full report about things the Washington Times was doing, and make sure he knew everything that was going on. And similarly, Moon would respond to her comments and make decisions based on what she told him.

Moon was supposed to have NOTHING to do with the AFC and the Times beyond being the “founder” of these organizations. I personally witnessed that this was not true. I saw the reality myself. You on the other hand, are a nobody in the UC, and so all you have is the party line, which you believe without question.

The odds of Shiner not still not supplying intel to the Moon organization are as close to nil as one can get, imo.

Sure he has given a lot of money to his favorite shills like, Bush 41, and he gave 250 grand to the Cheney Bush 2005 inaugural but that is not how Moon operates and you miss his methods if you go there. This is why so many miss what he HAS ALREADY done. That is, Moon molds the entire political environment – he does just pay someone to do something for him. At least that is not his usual MO.

Moon funds fronts and individuals that create the environment – fronts like the American Freedom Coalition designed to gather the Christian Right for political power, or the Washington Times to give hard right politics backbone and spread or create their lying talking points.

He does fund some individuals like key shills such as Bush 41 for obvious reasons, Bush brings him credibility around the world. But mainly it is individuals who create the political environment he wishes. People like Falwell and LaHaye who help empower and gather Moon’s beloved theocrats but don’t show up on normal donor lists. He props up the backbone of the right – people like Richard Viguerie or the little known but important father of the individual attack ad, Terry Dolan.

Read about one source of Moon’s cash – the swindling of widows – here.

As for the authenticity of her church departure: Gorenfeld also points out that his sources tell him that certain of the “apostates” who left in the mid-’90s were actually being groomed to surreptitiously carry out Moon’s work in the mainstream, and there’s a high likelihood Sheeran was one of these.